Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Dear Sanjay, This would mean that nakshatra/nakshatra-pada has nothing to do with degrees in the zodiac. Best Regards, SS sohamsa , " Sanjay Prabhakaran " <sanjaychettiar wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear SS, > No, I think you are also reversing the nakshatra placements. The > nakshatra's dont get reversed. Let me explain it by my understanding. > Suppose you are going reverse in Car after you missed a place, The road does > not get reversed. If we do reverse the road then the car is no more giong > reverse! > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > > > > 2008/11/20 Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak > > > Dear All, > > > > Since the degrees of nodes are counted as subtracted from 30deg, should > > the nakshatra placement be considered thence or otherwise? > > > > e.g. Rahu is at 7-Tula and is hence indicated in Svati nakshatra Pada 1, > > it's degree would be calculated as 30-7 = 23-Tula > > then do we also consider it's nakshatra as Vishakha pada 1? > > > > Many thanx and Best Regards, > > SS > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Dear Shanmukha, Does it mean that in this case if we have to find the 'graha pidita nakshtra' wrt Rahu as in this case, we would take Svati and not Vishakha? Best Regards, SS sohamsa , " Shanmukha " <teli_sha2002 wrote: > > Om Namah Sivaya > > Namaste SS, > > No, As far as Rahu Nakshatra is concerned, Rahu is in Swathi 1 pada, > since he is physically at 187 deg in Zodiac. He can't be considered > to be at Visakha 1 Pada. > > But, for considering him as Chara karaka, Rahu is said to be > traversed 23 deg b'coz of his reverse motion. So, his candidature is > considered as he had been at 23 deg Tula. > > Warm regards, > Shanmukha. > > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Partha, > > > > I get your point, so far as calculation of Charakaraka is > concerned, now > > the question is: > > > > e.g. Rahu is at 7-Tula (i.e. 187 deg in the zodiac) and is hence > > indicated in Svati Pada 1, > > > > it's degree would be calculated as 30-7 = 23-Tula (i.e. 203 deg in > the > > zodiac) then do we consider it's nakshatra as > > > > Vishakha pada 1 or Svati pada 1? > > > > > > Many Thanx and Best Regards, > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Partha Sarathy " <partvinu@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi SS > > > > > > The longitude of a planet is the exact point at which it is > located in > > the > > > zodiac. And, Nakshatras are calculated based on this point. > > > The degrees are calculated from the beginning or the end of a > Sign, > > and is > > > indicative of how far the planet has " experienced " or " matured " > and > > hence is > > > diferent. > > > Hence, the degrees matter a lot for finding out who are the > various > > soul > > > level significators. > > > > > > Also remember, Sign is a physical entity that can be measured. > So the > > > placement of a planet in a particular point cannot be > compromised. > > This > > > principle is especially useful when you are discussing Bhava > chalit > > chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > > > > > This would mean that nakshatra/nakshatra-pada has nothing to > do with > > > > degrees in the zodiac. > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > SS > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > 40>, " Sanjay > > > > Prabhakaran " > > > > sanjaychettiar@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > Dear SS, > > > > > No, I think you are also reversing the nakshatra placements. > The > > > > > nakshatra's dont get reversed. Let me explain it by my > > > > understanding. > > > > > Suppose you are going reverse in Car after you missed a > place, The > > > > road does > > > > > not get reversed. If we do reverse the road then the car is > no > > more > > > > giong > > > > > reverse! > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/11/20 Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Since the degrees of nodes are counted as subtracted from > 30deg, > > > > should > > > > > > the nakshatra placement be considered thence or otherwise? > > > > > > > > > > > > e.g. Rahu is at 7-Tula and is hence indicated in Svati > nakshatra > > > > Pada 1, > > > > > > it's degree would be calculated as 30-7 = 23-Tula > > > > > > then do we also consider it's nakshatra as Vishakha pada 1? > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanx and Best Regards, > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Dear Rafal, Thank You. Best Regards, SS sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Soul Sadhak, Namaskar > > Yes, we do that. For example to find Shiva name for pranayama we use AK > nakshatra. We reverse it if its for Rahu. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > > > Soul Sadhak pisze: > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > This would mean that nakshatra/nakshatra -pada has nothing to do with > > degrees in the zodiac. > > > > Best Regards, > > SS > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40>, > > " Sanjay Prabhakaran " > > <sanjaychettiar@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > Dear SS, > > > No, I think you are also reversing the nakshatra placements. The > > > nakshatra's dont get reversed. Let me explain it by my > > understanding. > > > Suppose you are going reverse in Car after you missed a place, The > > road does > > > not get reversed. If we do reverse the road then the car is no more > > giong > > > reverse! > > > Warm Regards > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/11/20 Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@ ...> > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Since the degrees of nodes are counted as subtracted from 30deg, > > should > > > > the nakshatra placement be considered thence or otherwise? > > > > > > > > e.g. Rahu is at 7-Tula and is hence indicated in Svati nakshatra > > Pada 1, > > > > it's degree would be calculated as 30-7 = 23-Tula > > > > then do we also consider it's nakshatra as Vishakha pada 1? > > > > > > > > Many thanx and Best Regards, > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1800 - Release Date: 2008-11-19 18:55 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Namaste SS If i am allowed to intervene - > it's degree would be calculated as 30-7 = 23-Tula (i.e. 203 deg in the zodiac) Rahu's degree is not and cannot be calculated as 23 degree Tula. It says Rahu has traversed ''23 degrees'' from the end of Tula. This is same as 7 degree Tula(from beginning of Tula). Thus nakshathra will always correspond to 7 degrees Tula. Your argument will be correct if Rahu is at 23 degrees from beginning of Tula, which is not the case. Other grahas as you are aware will start from 0 degree Tula and proceed to 1, 2,3 . Rahu on the other hand starts from 30 degrees Tula and recedes to 29, 28 etc to reach 7 degrees. In this process it has traversed 23 degrees within Tula(reverse direction). Sarvashree Sanjay,Partha and Shanmukha has explained the same. Thus trying to mark rahu with someother nakshathra for whatsoever logic ,is improper. Hope it is clear Pradeep sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote: > > > > Hi Partha, > > I get your point, so far as calculation of Charakaraka is concerned, now > the question is: > > e.g. Rahu is at 7-Tula (i.e. 187 deg in the zodiac) and is hence > indicated in Svati Pada 1, > > it's degree would be calculated as 30-7 = 23-Tula (i.e. 203 deg in the > zodiac) then do we consider it's nakshatra as > > Vishakha pada 1 or Svati pada 1? > > > Many Thanx and Best Regards, > SS > sohamsa , " Partha Sarathy " <partvinu@> wrote: > > > > Hi SS > > > > The longitude of a planet is the exact point at which it is located in > the > > zodiac. And, Nakshatras are calculated based on this point. > > The degrees are calculated from the beginning or the end of a Sign, > and is > > indicative of how far the planet has " experienced " or " matured " and > hence is > > diferent. > > Hence, the degrees matter a lot for finding out who are the various > soul > > level significators. > > > > Also remember, Sign is a physical entity that can be measured. So the > > placement of a planet in a particular point cannot be compromised. > This > > principle is especially useful when you are discussing Bhava chalit > chakra. > > > > > > > > regards > > partha > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > > > This would mean that nakshatra/nakshatra-pada has nothing to do with > > > degrees in the zodiac. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > SS > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, " Sanjay > > > Prabhakaran " > > > sanjaychettiar@ wrote: > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > Dear SS, > > > > No, I think you are also reversing the nakshatra placements. The > > > > nakshatra's dont get reversed. Let me explain it by my > > > understanding. > > > > Suppose you are going reverse in Car after you missed a place, The > > > road does > > > > not get reversed. If we do reverse the road then the car is no > more > > > giong > > > > reverse! > > > > Warm Regards > > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/11/20 Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > Since the degrees of nodes are counted as subtracted from 30deg, > > > should > > > > > the nakshatra placement be considered thence or otherwise? > > > > > > > > > > e.g. Rahu is at 7-Tula and is hence indicated in Svati nakshatra > > > Pada 1, > > > > > it's degree would be calculated as 30-7 = 23-Tula > > > > > then do we also consider it's nakshatra as Vishakha pada 1? > > > > > > > > > > Many thanx and Best Regards, > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Dear Rafal Can you please provide one example for this, how to find the Shiva name from Nakshatra.. is it based on the various names of the deities for Nakshatra Purusha as per the Shaivite list? -Regards Rajarshi "This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet--- On Thu, 20/11/08, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak Re: Nakshatra of Nodessohamsa Date: Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 11:21 PM Dear Rafal,Thank You.Best Regards,SSsohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Soul Sadhak, Namaskar> > Yes, we do that. For example to find Shiva name for pranayama we use AK > nakshatra. We reverse it if its for Rahu.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > > > > Soul Sadhak pisze:> >> > Dear Sanjay,> >> > This would mean that nakshatra/nakshatra -pada has nothing to do with> > degrees in the zodiac.> >> > Best Regards,> > SS> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40. com>, > > "Sanjay Prabhakaran"> > <sanjaychettiar@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > Dear SS,> > > No, I think you are also reversing the nakshatra placements. The> > > nakshatra's dont get reversed. Let me explain it by my> > understanding.> > > Suppose you are going reverse in Car after you missed a place, The> > road does> > > not get reversed. If we do reverse the road then the car is no more> > giong> > > reverse!> > > Warm Regards> > > Sanjay P> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > 2008/11/20 Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@ ...>> > >> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > Since the degrees of nodes are counted as subtracted from 30deg,> > should> > > > the nakshatra placement be considered thence or otherwise?> > > >> > > > e.g. Rahu is at 7-Tula and is hence indicated in Svati nakshatra> > Pada 1,> > > > it's degree would be calculated as 30-7 = 23-Tula> > > > then do we also consider it's nakshatra as Vishakha pada 1?> > > >> > > > Many thanx and Best Regards,> > > > SS> > > >> > >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1800 - Release 2008-11-19 18:55> >> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Sri Matre Namah Dear Learned Friends, Namasthe. Is there any case, when When Krittika or Rohini Nakshatras/padas fall in Meena Rasi? What is a natural Zodiac? Could somebody throw some light on these. regards vishwanatham On 11/20/08, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: -- ViswanadhamContact for:Financial Engineering + 91 99 590 39721 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Sri Matre Namah Dear Learned Friends Namasthe. Let us assume Graha kootami,at Zero degrees Mesha, with Ketu in Tula. When the planets set out to travel, all the planets move from Mesha to Vrishbha etc., except Rahu, which 'slips' into Meena Rasi then onto Kumbha etc. Suppose Rahu meets Surya and Chandra at 23 degrees of Kanya. Also, they are at the same Nakhatra pada! Starting from Ashwini, one can find out, which Nakshatra pada it is. It is Nakshatras (constellations) onto which Rasi (Zodiac signs) are mapped and hence when we change the order of reading Mesha Vrishbha, Mithuna etc., to Meena, Kumbha, Makara etc., the order of Nakshatras does not change. Now, Rahu ( followed by Ketu the headless part of the asura ) 'slips' into Meena, which is in its nature to do ( as we know from the 'Ksheera sagar mathana' ). In this situation, the distance in space traversed by Rahu (measured in degrees) has to be from 0deg Mesha i.e, 30 deg of Meena etc., which is 187 degrees. Expunging multiples of 30 deg, this gives us 7 deg of distance traversered in Kanya rasi for Rahu. It is not equally to 30 deg of Mesha, followed by 30 deg of Vrishabha by Surya and Chandra, which comes to 173 degrees, which givee us 23 deg of distance traversed by Surya & Chandra in Kanya Rasi!! This calculation is simplified by Maharishi Parasara, when he asked us to deduct the position from 30 deg for Rahu ( & Ketu).So, while Surya, Chandra & Rahu have all been at 23 degrees of Kanya, the actual ditance covered by Rahu is at 30 minus 23 = 7 degrees (in Kany rasi). So far so good: It is in the nature of Rahu( & ketu) to start from the end of the Rasi and not from the beginning of the Rasi. So, this distance traversed by Rahu is always measured from the end of the Rasi and it also follows that the Nakshatra padas covered by Rahu are also to be reckoned from the last pada of the Rasi and in the revere order (Padas 4,3,2 & 1) It is in the nature of Surya, Chandra to always move from Ashwini to Bharani to Krittika (Padas 1,2,3 & 4) etc., which is contrary to the nature of Rahu ( & ketu). Other planets, some times take on the qualities of Rahu (when they are retrograde). Ofcourse, this whole gamut is from the stand point of Lagna (place of birth on this earth). Hope i have made myself clear. Regards viswanadham On 11/21/08, Viswanadham <vishwanatham wrote: Sri Matre Namah Dear Learned Friends, Namasthe. Is there any case, when When Krittika or Rohini Nakshatras/padas fall in Meena Rasi? What is a natural Zodiac? Could somebody throw some light on these. regards vishwanatham On 11/20/08, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Dear Vishvanadham, What you said here is crystal clear. Now, if you have been through Brhat Nakshatra, could you explain how this is applicable to Chart 17 on pg. 77. Best Regards, SS sohamsa , Viswanadham <vishwanatham wrote: > > Sri Matre Namah > > Dear Learned Friends > > Namasthe. > > Let us assume Graha kootami,at Zero degrees Mesha, with Ketu in Tula. When > the planets set out to travel, all the planets move from Mesha to Vrishbha > etc., except Rahu, which 'slips' into Meena Rasi then onto Kumbha etc. > > Suppose Rahu meets Surya and Chandra at 23 degrees of Kanya. Also, they are > at the same Nakhatra pada! Starting from Ashwini, one can find out, which > Nakshatra pada it is. > > It is Nakshatras (constellations) onto which Rasi (Zodiac signs) are mapped > and hence when we change the order of reading Mesha Vrishbha, Mithuna etc., > to Meena, Kumbha, Makara etc., the order of Nakshatras does not change. > > Now, Rahu ( followed by Ketu the headless part of the asura ) 'slips' into > Meena, which is in its nature to do ( as we know from the 'Ksheera sagar > mathana' ). > > In this situation, the distance in space traversed by Rahu (measured in > degrees) has to be from 0deg Mesha i.e, 30 deg of Meena etc., which is 187 > degrees. Expunging multiples of 30 deg, this gives us 7 deg of distance > traversered in Kanya rasi for Rahu. > > It is not equally to 30 deg of Mesha, followed by 30 deg of Vrishabha by > Surya and Chandra, which comes to 173 degrees, which givee us 23 deg of > distance traversed by Surya & Chandra in Kanya Rasi!! > > This calculation is simplified by Maharishi Parasara, when he asked us to > deduct the position from 30 deg for Rahu ( & Ketu).So, while Surya, Chandra & > Rahu have all been at 23 degrees of Kanya, the actual ditance covered by > Rahu is at 30 minus 23 = 7 degrees (in Kany rasi). > > So far so good: > > It is in the nature of Rahu( & ketu) to start from the end of the Rasi and > not from the beginning of the Rasi. So, this distance traversed by Rahu is > always measured from the end of the Rasi and it also follows that the > Nakshatra padas covered by Rahu are also to be reckoned from the last pada > of the Rasi and in the revere order (Padas 4,3,2 & 1) > > It is in the nature of Surya, Chandra to always move from Ashwini to Bharani > to Krittika (Padas 1,2,3 & 4) etc., which is contrary to the nature of Rahu > ( & ketu). Other planets, some times take on the qualities of Rahu (when they > are retrograde). > > Ofcourse, this whole gamut is from the stand point of Lagna (place of birth > on this earth). > > Hope i have made myself clear. > > Regards > viswanadham > > > > On 11/21/08, Viswanadham <vishwanatham wrote: > > > > Sri Matre Namah > > > > Dear Learned Friends, Namasthe. > > > > Is there any case, when When Krittika or Rohini Nakshatras/padas fall in > > Meena Rasi? > > > > What is a natural Zodiac? > > > > Could somebody throw some light on these. > > > > regards > > vishwanatham > > > > > > On 11/20/08, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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