Guest guest Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Respected Guruji's, With Respect to combustion, though we have had many discussions in this forum. I still have some open questions. Can anyone please help me to understand this concept at a more broader level. When Sun Combusts a planet (Venus,mercury,Kuja,Shani,Guruetc), Does he completely burn the strength of those planets(complete combustion) and inherit all the good/bad effects of that planet ? What happens when Sun combusts the Badhaka or Rajayoga planet? What happens during the dasha/antardasha of sun? What are the effects when the Sun has a higher/lower longitude(away/behind) the combusted planet? Many Thanks, regards pramod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Respected Sanjay Rathji, Vistiji and Rafalji, Can anyone please answer the combustion effects below regards pramod. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Pramod B.V. <pramod.venkatesh wrote: Respected Guruji's, With Respect to combustion, though we have had many discussions in this forum. I still have some open questions. Can anyone please help me to understand this concept at a more broader level. When Sun Combusts a planet (Venus,mercury,Kuja,Shani,Guruetc), Does he completely burn the strength of those planets(complete combustion) and inherit all the good/bad effects of that planet ? What happens when Sun combusts the Badhaka or Rajayoga planet? What happens during the dasha/antardasha of sun? What are the effects when the Sun has a higher/lower longitude(away/behind) the combusted planet? Many Thanks, regards pramod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Jaya JagannathaDear Pramod,NamasteWhat's wrong with the Sun - whichever month the person is born in, his internal Sun takes on that energy of that particular Aditya so what's wrong with taking the energy of the others and in turn, purify them?The two "REAL Planets" are the luminaries that can cause the REAL rajayoga, which is NOT material in the real sense, but on a much higher level in one's realisation. Any dasha that is major gives the general indications. The antardasa gives the event. Depending on which major period versus the minor period of the Sun. But then, whom, but father (Sun) causes the initial creation and the seed?The answer to your third question is simple. If the Sun is the King, even his commander in chief who has proceeded with his strategy in the battlefield would still have to wait for the final say from the King, isn't it?Enjoy your meditation and may HIS light pervade.love,SweeOn 27 Nov 2008, at 13:01, Pramod B.V. wrote:Respected Sanjay Rathji, Vistiji and Rafalji, Can anyone please answer the combustion effects below regardspramod.On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Pramod B.V. <pramod.venkatesh wrote:Respected Guruji's, With Respect to combustion, though we have had many discussions in this forum. I still have some open questions.Can anyone please help me to understand this concept at a more broader level.When Sun Combusts a planet (Venus,mercury,Kuja,Shani,Guruetc), Does he completely burn the strength of those planets(complete combustion) and inherit all the good/bad effects of that planet ?What happens when Sun combusts the Badhaka or Rajayoga planet? What happens during the dasha/antardasha of sun?What are the effects when the Sun has a higher/lower longitude(away/behind) the combusted planet?Many Thanks, regardspramod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Dear Swee Does moon get combust? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Thu, 27/11/08, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Swee Chan <sweeRe: Re: Combustion Effectssohamsa Date: Thursday, 27 November, 2008, 8:39 PM Jaya Jagannatha Dear Pramod, Namaste What's wrong with the Sun - whichever month the person is born in, his internal Sun takes on that energy of that particular Aditya so what's wrong with taking the energy of the others and in turn, purify them? The two "REAL Planets" are the luminaries that can cause the REAL rajayoga, which is NOT material in the real sense, but on a much higher level in one's realisation. Any dasha that is major gives the general indications. The antardasa gives the event. Depending on which major period versus the minor period of the Sun. But then, whom, but father (Sun) causes the initial creation and the seed? The answer to your third question is simple. If the Sun is the King, even his commander in chief who has proceeded with his strategy in the battlefield would still have to wait for the final say from the King, isn't it? Enjoy your meditation and may HIS light pervade. love, Swee On 27 Nov 2008, at 13:01, Pramod B.V. wrote: Respected Sanjay Rathji, Vistiji and Rafalji, Can anyone please answer the combustion effects below regards pramod. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Pramod B.V. <pramod.venkatesh@ gmail.com> wrote: Respected Guruji's, With Respect to combustion, though we have had many discussions in this forum. I still have some open questions. Can anyone please help me to understand this concept at a more broader level. When Sun Combusts a planet (Venus,mercury, Kuja,Shani, Guruetc), Does he completely burn the strength of those planets(complete combustion) and inherit all the good/bad effects of that planet ? What happens when Sun combusts the Badhaka or Rajayoga planet? What happens during the dasha/antardasha of sun? What are the effects when the Sun has a higher/lower longitude(away/ behind) the combusted planet? Many Thanks, regards pramod. Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Dear Pramod, Combustion is one of the server afflictions, a planet may fall in due to nearness to the Sun. Moon, Mer, Ven, Mar, Jup and Sat are given different range according to their velocity. Following are the generally accepted arc of combustion (however small variations among different sources also exist). Moon 12 degree Mars 17 degree Mercury 14 degree Jupiter 11 degree Venus 10 degree Saturn 16 degree Rahu Can't Combust Ketu Can't Combust Inner planet Mercury and Venus in retrograde motion are said to be asta (combust) when they are respectively 12 and 8 degrees from the Sun (please recheck the degrees, I may be wrong here). A planet turns fruitless regarding its karakttawa, and lordship due to proximity of sun. It is also seen that strong beneficial aspect and shubha varga placement may provide some relief to combust planet. But combustion of Mars and Saturn result in real affliction, comparing Mercury and Venus. There is another point of view about combustion. According to which combustion does not destroy the result of combust planet, provided Sun is a functional benefic for langa. Sage Parasara said If Lagn Lord is in debilitation, combustion, or enemy's Rashi, there will be diseases. if the Lords of Dhan and Labh Bhava are both combust, or with malefics. 8. Loss of Wealth through the King (government). If Labh's Lord is exalted (in labhasthana, kendara of trikona), though in combustion there will be many gains. Parasara also maintained that if strong grahas, capable of leading to ascetism (parivraja yoga). BUT when that grahas are combust, in spite of having reverence for the holy order, the person will not become initiated in that holy order. Mantreswara's holds that when a planet is in combustion its effect will be similar to that in his sign of debilitation. Combustion also functions as a catalyst to various kind of Rekha (loosely translated poverty) and Preshya (may mean servitude) yogas, that make a chart ordinary. You also asked about combustion of Badhakesha and Raja Yoga kari planet. Well, it is generally accepted that combustion cause cancellation of raja yoga. If other afflictions (debilitation, malefic association, evil varga etc.) also present then combustion completely invalidate the Raja Yoga. I'm not sure about combustion of Badhakesh (lord of specific obstructing house). Bhavartha Ratnakara (chapter 12) holds that when Sun conjoins other planets, Sun's period will be favourable while the dasas of the other (combust?) planets conjoined with Sun will yield ordinary results. But when Sun and Mercury are in association, Sun's dasa will be ordinary but Mercury's dasa will be very good. With Regards, M. Imran sohamsa , " Pramod B.V. " <pramod.venkatesh wrote: > > Respected Sanjay Rathji, Vistiji and Rafalji, > > Can anyone please answer the combustion effects below > > regards > pramod. > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Pramod B.V. <pramod.venkateshwrote: > > > Respected Guruji's, > > > > With Respect to combustion, though we have had many discussions in > > this forum. I still have some open questions. > > Can anyone please help me to understand this concept at a more broader > > level. > > > > - When Sun Combusts a planet (Venus,mercury,Kuja,Shani,Guruetc), Does > > he completely burn the strength of those planets(complete combustion) and > > inherit all the good/bad effects of that planet ? > > - What happens when Sun combusts the Badhaka or Rajayoga planet? What > > happens during the dasha/antardasha of sun? > > - What are the effects when the Sun has a higher/lower > > longitude(away/behind) the combusted planet? > > > > Many Thanks, > > > > regards > > pramod. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Pramod, Namaskar Combustion is very bad indeed for the graha as it rays are totally checked. This can be good for spirituality as Swee said but for material envinroment can be disastrous. I think Phaldeepika says that its more or equal to debilitation. I usually check if Surya is yuti the graha in Navamsa - thats the real combustion for the planet and its area lorded, otherwise the karaka can suffer. Usually you can check the areas lorded by the combust graha - if they suffer then planet is definitely combust - I provide this checktube as there are various definition in which time the graha is combust. I advise you to read good article from Vistiji about this phenomena which I believe has appeared in Jyotish digest. When graha is against the native then its combustion is auspicious - for badhaka it is not so as more afflicted badhaka brings more avidya. Both higher and lower longitude that Sun can give combustion - for this you can check Prashna article from Sanjayji where he provides the degrees for both sides of the Sun. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal Pramod B.V. pisze: Respected Sanjay Rathji, Vistiji and Rafalji, Can anyone please answer the combustion effects below regards pramod. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Pramod B.V. <pramod.venkatesh > wrote: Respected Guruji's, With Respect to combustion, though we have had many discussions in this forum. I still have some open questions. Can anyone please help me to understand this concept at a more broader level. When Sun Combusts a planet (Venus,mercury,Kuja,Shani,Guruetc), Does he completely burn the strength of those planets(complete combustion) and inherit all the good/bad effects of that planet ? What happens when Sun combusts the Badhaka or Rajayoga planet? What happens during the dasha/antardasha of sun? What are the effects when the Sun has a higher/lower longitude(away/behind) the combusted planet? Many Thanks, regards pramod. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.10/1814 - Release 2008-11-26 20:53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Dear Rafal Does moon get combust? You said if its in same navamsa as sun then it is real combustion, or else its karak suffers. I did not understand this. So in case there is navamsa yuti then how does it affect? By lordship of houses in rasi? Does wearing a stone for combust planet help is moving it out of combustion? Also if a planet is exhalted and combust, how bad is it? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Thu, 27/11/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: Re: Combustion Effectssohamsa Date: Thursday, 27 November, 2008, 11:09 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Pramod, NamaskarCombustion is very bad indeed for the graha as it rays are totally checked. This can be good for spirituality as Swee said but for material envinroment can be disastrous. I think Phaldeepika says that its more or equal to debilitation. I usually check if Surya is yuti the graha in Navamsa - thats the real combustion for the planet and its area lorded, otherwise the karaka can suffer. Usually you can check the areas lorded by the combust graha - if they suffer then planet is definitely combust - I provide this checktube as there are various definition in which time the graha is combust. I advise you to read good article from Vistiji about this phenomena which I believe has appeared in Jyotish digest. When graha is against the native then its combustion is auspicious - for badhaka it is not so as more afflicted badhaka brings more avidya. Both higher and lower longitude that Sun can give combustion - for this you can check Prashna article from Sanjayji where he provides the degrees for both sides of the Sun. Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comPramod B.V. pisze: Respected Sanjay Rathji, Vistiji and Rafalji, Can anyone please answer the combustion effects below regards pramod. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Pramod B.V. <pramod.venkatesh@ gmail.com> wrote: Respected Guruji's, With Respect to combustion, though we have had many discussions in this forum. I still have some open questions. Can anyone please help me to understand this concept at a more broader level. When Sun Combusts a planet (Venus,mercury, Kuja,Shani, Guruetc), Does he completely burn the strength of those planets(complete combustion) and inherit all the good/bad effects of that planet ? What happens when Sun combusts the Badhaka or Rajayoga planet? What happens during the dasha/antardasha of sun? What are the effects when the Sun has a higher/lower longitude(away/ behind) the combusted planet? Many Thanks, regards pramod. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.10/1814 - Release 2008-11-26 20:53 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Pramod, Please understand this in another angle, by accepting that we all are spiritual beings who came to this planet for burn our “individuality” or “ego” by the heat of the Agni. This heat of the Agni is none other than Rudra –Mars, the YAMA. When Saturn is activated, our ego rises and we are building our own kingdoms of “self” . This will lead us to forget Guru, who is protecting us from the heat of Agni-Rudra. Finally Rudra comes and burn our kingdom of ego using his heat. Is this not the message of Ramayana ? When rays of a graha is blocked by the Sun by sitting behind, we say it is Asta or combust. It is Sun who make burn.. so Here Sun act like Rudra and area of burning will be the planet which combust. This burning is nothing but purifications. When Moon combust, it is Amavasya Dosha and it has many thing to study including Krishna Chaturdasi etc. Mars is himself Rudra, so Mars cannot be combust. We know what happened to people who tried to put fire on Hanuman. Mercury shall learn a lot, Venus come closer to Agni shall forced to waist lot of energy, Guru combust indicate more purification, Saturn combust shows problems with elders etc. See the lordship of Sun and see what planets are burning. Very material level, just check who are the people involved with. For example I have seen a Taurus Lagna lady has Venus combusted. Her whole life is under control of the Mother and marriage is delaying for no reason. Another chart, lord of the UL is combusted by 9th lord, freedom of marriage area is influence by own farther. Hope this helps. Karu Respected Guruji's, With Respect to combustion, though we have had many discussions in this forum. I still have some open questions. Can anyone please help me to understand this concept at a more broader level. When Sun Combusts a planet (Venus,mercury,Kuja,Shani,Guruetc), Does he completely burn the strength of those planets(complete combustion) and inherit all the good/bad effects of that planet ? What happens when Sun combusts the Badhaka or Rajayoga planet? What happens during the dasha/antardasha of sun? What are the effects when the Sun has a higher/lower longitude(away/behind) the combusted planet? Many Thanks, regards pramod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Dear Karu I have moon combust but it is praipad tithi, not amavashya. Also that moon is exhalted. What kind of effects would it mean? I am quite confused in interpreting this.. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Fri, 28/11/08, Karu Heenkenda <heen wrote: Karu Heenkenda <heenRE: Re: Combustion Effectssohamsa Date: Friday, 28 November, 2008, 6:37 AM Hare Rama Krishna Dear Pramod, Please understand this in another angle, by accepting that we all are spiritual beings who came to this planet for burn our “individuality†or “ego†by the heat of the Agni. This heat of the Agni is none other than Rudra –Mars, the YAMA. When Saturn is activated, our ego rises and we are building our own kingdoms of “self†. This will lead us to forget Guru, who is protecting us from the heat of Agni-Rudra. Finally Rudra comes and burn our kingdom of ego using his heat. Is this not the message of Ramayana ? When rays of a graha is blocked by the Sun by sitting behind, we say it is Asta or combust. It is Sun who make burn.. so Here Sun act like Rudra and area of burning will be the planet which combust. This burning is nothing but purifications. When Moon combust, it is Amavasya Dosha and it has many thing to study including Krishna Chaturdasi etc. Mars is himself Rudra, so Mars cannot be combust. We know what happened to people who tried to put fire on Hanuman. Mercury shall learn a lot, Venus come closer to Agni shall forced to waist lot of energy, Guru combust indicate more purification, Saturn combust shows problems with elders etc. See the lordship of Sun and see what planets are burning. Very material level, just check who are the people involved with. For example I have seen a Taurus Lagna lady has Venus combusted. Her whole life is under control of the Mother and marriage is delaying for no reason. Another chart, lord of the UL is combusted by 9th lord, freedom of marriage area is influence by own farther. Hope this helps. Karu Respected Guruji's, With Respect to combustion, though we have had many discussions in this forum. I still have some open questions. Can anyone please help me to understand this concept at a more broader level. When Sun Combusts a planet (Venus,mercury, Kuja,Shani, Guruetc), Does he completely burn the strength of those planets(complete combustion) and inherit all the good/bad effects of that planet ? What happens when Sun combusts the Badhaka or Rajayoga planet? What happens during the dasha/antardasha of sun? What are the effects when the Sun has a higher/lower longitude(away/ behind) the combusted planet? Many Thanks, regards pramod. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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