When Did Lord Krishna Live? (Lord Balabhadra/Baladeva/Balarama's Chart)

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Dear SanjayP,

 

> Since we have approximate Lord Krishna's Chart, I was thinking of trying

>

> June 24, -3227

I am confident based on highly credible modern astronomy research that the chart of Lord Krishna you gave is definitely wrong.

 

Traditionally, we assume that Kali yuga started in 3102 BC. From it, people derive the date of Mahabharata war a few decades before and Krishna's birth several more decades before.

 

However, we no longer need to guess when Mahabharata war took place. We know it for sure now. The war happened in 3067 BC. Thus, Sri Krishna could NOT have been born in 3228 BC, which would make him 161 years old at the time of war. We don't know for sure when Kali yuga started. But we do know that the Mahabharata war happened in 3067 BC.

 

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Dr Narahari Achar is a professor in the department of physics at the University of Memphis in Memphis, USA. While some good-intentioned people before him made bad attempts at dating the Mahabharata war based on approximate linear models of planetary motion, Dr Achar used accurate modern planetarium software to evaluate various astronomical observations of Vyasa in the Mahabharata epic and find the date.

 

He conclusively established that ALL the astronomical references given by Vyasa regarding the war in the Mahabharata text happened in 3067 BC and that no other year in the last 6000 years satisfies all the criteria! He actually published a scientific paper in a scientific journal related to astronomy on the timing of Mahabharata war! The work passed heavy peer review by fellow astronomers.

 

I and Dr Achar met when I went to India this summer and spent a couple of days together. I had a chance to look at his scientific paper critically and review the Sanskrit quotes in it and also the astronomical portions. His paper is a very coherent and logical piece of work that proves quite convincingly that several rare astronomical events mentioned by Vyasa were not randomly chosen finctional events, but they all happened together at a specific point in time.

 

His scientific paper very strongly suggests that Mahabharata must have actually happened in 3067 BC, that Vyasa must have been able to observe planetary positions and that he must have chronicled his observations in Mahabharata text.

 

When Kali yuga started, when Krishna was born and when Krishna left earth is not known for sure. But, it is known for sure that Mahabharata war happened in 3067 BC.

 

 

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This means Krishna was not born in 3228 BC as believed by some. He must have been born much later. I actually have a specific chart that is the result of the intuition of a yogi. It has five planets in amrita shashtyamsa and has several features that make a lot more sense to me than what has been accepted by most. Moreover, it fits with the Mahabharata timing by modern astronomy. However, I will not mention the data for now. I will first let people get over this 3228 BC chart, which is definitely wrong.

 

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sohamsa , "Sanjay Prabhakaran" <sanjaychettiar wrote:>> || Om Gurave Namah ||> > Dear Jyotishas,> > Since we have approximate Lord Krishna's Chart, I was thinking of trying> out Lord Balarama's chart. I was trying to search in the internet for his> birth data like Balaram Jayanthi etc.> I get many dates,> 1) Gamhapurnima i.e Shravana Poornima> 2) Akshaya Tritiya i.e Vaishaka Shulka Tritya> 3) HalaShashti i.e Bhadrapada Krishna Shashti> > Brihat Nakshatra book I think gives it as Bhadrapada Shukla Dwitiya.> > The time is either given as Madhyaana (noon) or pradosha (evening) Brihat> Nax.> > Can someone please give any information, if possible with reference or> tradition, to Balarama's birth details.> > Warm Regards> Sanjay P> > > Sri Krishna> > Natal Chart> > June 24, -3227> Time: 12:20:00 am> Time Zone: 5:10:44 (East of GMT)> Place: 77 E 41' 57", 27 N 30' 20"> India, 1> Altitude: 0.00 meters> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Sreemukha - Nija Ashadha> Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (17.00% left)> Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)> Nakshatra: Mrigasira (Ma) (27.73% left)> Yoga: Harshana (Su) (80.16% left)> Karana: Balava (Mo) (34.00% left)> Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sc)> Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Li)> Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)> > Sunrise: 4:59:05 am (June 23)> Sunset: 6:36:28 pm (June 23)> Janma Ghatis: 48.3715> > Ayanamsa: 311-38-26.09> Sidereal Time: 16:42:36> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> > Lagna 21 Ar 19' 50.32" Bhar 3 Ar Li> Sun - BK 23 Cn 00' 32.29" Asre 2 Cn Cp> Moon - DK 2 Ge 58' 08.72" Mrig 3 Ge Li> Mars - MK 16 Ge 59' 41.84" Ardr 4 Ge Pi> Mercury - GK 13 Cn 05' 49.08" Push 3 Cn Li> Jupiter - AK 26 Le 00' 35.27" PPha 4 Le Sc> Venus ® - AmK 23 Cn 22' 58.98" Asre 3 Cn Aq> Saturn ® - PK 16 Sc 47' 47.48" Jye 1 Sc Sg> Rahu 15 Cn 59' 04.61" Push 4 Cn Sc> Ketu 15 Cp 59' 04.61" Srav 2 Cp Ta> Maandi 20 Ta 53' 47.52" Rohi 4 Ta Cn> Gulika 7 Ta 01' 57.62" Krit 4 Ta Pi> Bhava Lagna 12 Ta 27' 40.96" Rohi 1 Ta Ar> Hora Lagna 2 Pi 41' 24.45" PBha 4 Pi Cn> Ghati Lagna 3 Le 22' 34.93" Magh 2 Le Ta> Vighati Lagna 6 Vi 48' 27.33" UPha 4 Vi Pi> Varnada Lagna 21 Pi 19' 50.32" Reva 2 Pi Ta> Sree Lagna 11 Cp 29' 45.83" Srav 1 Cp Ar> Pranapada Lagna 7 Vi 35' 02.16" UPha 4 Vi Pi> Indu Lagna 2 Ar 58' 08.72" Aswi 1 Ar Ar> Dhooma 6 Sg 20' 32.29" Mool 2 Sg Ta> Vyatipata 23 Cn 39' 27.71" Asre 3 Cn Aq> Parivesha 23 Cp 39' 27.71" Dhan 1 Cp Le> Indra Chapa 6 Ge 20' 32.29" Mrig 4 Ge Sc> Upaketu 23 Ge 00' 32.29" Puna 1 Ge Ar> Kaala 0 Cn 27' 43.40" Puna 4 Cn Cn> Mrityu 9 Aq 55' 20.51" Sata 1 Aq Sg> Artha Prahara 27 Aq 47' 59.82" PBha 3 Aq Ge> Yama Ghantaka 17 Pi 42' 29.48" Reva 1 Pi Sg> Prana Sphuta 23 Le 41' 09.23" PPha 4 Le Sc> Deha Sphuta 0 Li 47' 07.40" Chit 3 Li Li> Mrityu Sphuta 12 Ar 14' 15.64" Aswi 4 Ar Cn> Sookshma TriSphuta 6 Pi 42' 32.27" UBha 2 Pi Vi> TriSphuta 1 Le 19' 56.67" Magh 1 Le Ar> ChatusSphuta 24 Sc 20' 28.96" Jye 3 Sc Aq> PanchaSphuta 10 Pi 19' 33.56" UBha 3 Pi Li> Kunda 17 Cp 46' 56.04" Srav 3 Cp Ge> > +--------------+> | \ | | / |> | \ Gk | As | / |> | \ | | / |> | Mo \ Md | | HL / |> | \ | | / |> | Ma \ | | / |> | \ | | / |> |---------------+---------------+---------------|> | | | |> | Su Me | | Ke |> | VeR Ra | | |> | | Rasi | |> | | | |> | | | |> | | | |> |---------------+---------------+---------------|> | / | | \ |> | GL AL / | | \ |> | / | | \ |> | Ju / | | SaR \ |> | / | | \ |> | / | | \ |> | / | | \ |> +---------------+---------------+---------------+> > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):> > Mars Mars -3232-06-01 Rah -3232-10-27 Jup -3231-11-14> Sat -3230-10-22 Merc -3229-11-29 Ket -3228-11-26> Ven -3227-04-25 Sun -3226-06-27 Moon -3226-10-31> Rah Rah -3225-06-02 Jup -3222-02-09 Sat -3220-07-09> Merc -3217-05-14 Ket -3215-11-29 Ven -3214-12-17> Sun -3211-12-17 Moon -3210-11-12 Mars -3208-05-13> Jup Jup -3207-06-02 Sat -3205-07-22 Merc -3202-01-28> Ket -3200-05-07 Ven -3199-04-12 Sun -3197-12-11> Moon -3196-10-01 Mars -3194-01-28 Rah -3193-01-04> Sat Sat -3191-06-02 Merc -3188-06-05 Ket -3185-02-09> Ven -3184-03-21 Sun -3181-05-24 Moon -3180-05-04> Mars -3179-12-02 Rah -3177-01-10 Jup -3175-11-18> Merc Merc -3172-06-02 Ket -3170-10-28 Ven -3169-10-26> Sun -3166-08-27 Moon -3165-07-04 Mars -3164-11-29> Rah -3163-11-26 Jup -3160-06-17 Sat -3158-09-23> Ket Ket -3155-06-02 Ven -3155-10-28 Sun -3154-12-26> Moon -3153-05-05 Mars -3153-12-03 Rah -3152-05-01> Jup -3151-05-20 Sat -3150-04-25 Merc -3149-06-06> Ven Ven -3148-06-02 Sun -3145-10-02 Moon -3144-10-02> Mars -3142-06-02 Rah -3141-08-03 Jup -3138-08-03> Sat -3135-03-31 Merc -3132-06-02 Ket -3129-04-01> Sun Sun -3128-06-02 Moon -3128-09-20 Mars -3127-03-18> Rah -3127-07-28 Jup -3126-06-21 Sat -3125-04-07> Merc -3124-03-18 Ket -3123-01-22 Ven -3123-06-02> Moon Moon -3122-06-02 Mars -3121-04-01 Rah -3121-11-01> Jup -3119-05-02 Sat -3118-09-03 Merc -3116-03-31> Ket -3115-09-02 Ven -3114-03-31 Sun -3113-11-30

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Narasimhaji,Thank you for the information, I will keep it in mind and also wait for your suggestion for Lord Krishna's Chart.One more question,

" Traditionally, we assume that Kali yuga started in 3102 BC. From it, people derive the date of Mahabharata war a few decades before and Krishna's birth several more decades before. However, we no longer need to guess when Mahabharata war took place. We know it for sure now. The war happened in 3067 BC "

So, this means that the Mahabharata War Happened after the Kali Yuga commencement? (About 35 Years later?). Warm RegardsSanjay P

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Dear SanjayP,

 

> So, this means that the Mahabharata War Happened after the Kali Yuga

> commencement? (About 35 Years later?).

 

IF Kali yuga started in 3102 BC as traditionally assumed, then your conclusion

is correct, i.e. the big war happened *after* Kali yuga set in. But we don't

know that for sure.

 

As I said, all we know for sure is the year of the war itself. Logically

speaking, the rest is unclear.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

 

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sohamsa , " Sanjay Prabhakaran " <sanjaychettiar wrote:

>

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

>

> Dear Narasimhaji,

>

> Thank you for the information, I will keep it in mind and also wait for your

> suggestion for Lord Krishna's Chart.

>

> One more question,

>

> " Traditionally, we assume that Kali yuga started in 3102 BC. From it, people

> > derive the date of Mahabharata war a few decades before and Krishna's birth

> > several more decades before.

> > However, we no longer need to guess when Mahabharata war took place. We

> > know it for sure now. The war happened in 3067 BC "

> >

> >

> So, this means that the Mahabharata War Happened after the Kali Yuga

> commencement? (About 35 Years later?).

>

> Warm Regards

> Sanjay P