Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Dear Lakshmi, As far as drigdasa support in JHora is concerned, there have not been too many confusing changes. JHora for a long time contained only what Sanjay ji taught. Earlier this year, I released a version of JHora that gave two versions - Sanjay ji's version and Parasara's version that I taught in my paper (which is identical to BPHS translation by Santhanam). When Parasara's version was added to JHora, it was chosen as the default. Apart from adding Parasara's version while choosing it as the default, there have been no further changes in drigdasa. * * * Why did I choose it as the default when I added Parasara's version? Well, Sanjay ji conceded to me privately that he was taught drigdasa along with many dasas in just one afternoon and that he just took some brief notes. He said he may have made mistakes. Secondly, Parasara's verses on drigdasa contain nothing controversial or ambiguous and are quite clear. When Parasara's words are clear, I see no reason to deviate from him. Moreover, I looked at many charts and there is a day and night difference in the clarity brought by Parasara's version. I saw no reason to keep Sanjay ji's version as the default given these factors. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikary wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > Dear Shanmukha, > I was also waiting to see the answers you would get! > Several things.. > 1) I think at this point in time MOST people are > confused which Drig Dasa is right or this or > that,,,,,, geez Ive even lost track of which version > is in which JH! > 2) I would love to see the answers to your questions, > But once and for all, > I would like someone to clearly SPELL out the > 1)The formula Sanjays is currently recommending for > DASAs not just Drig Dasa. Please If he can add it to > his web site for reference it would help us all. (as > personally , I like to follow his path) > > 2) Narasimhas final formula and conclusions-IS > everything now in that paper he gave.? > > THis is one BIG problem when there are various > versions.It cast doubt on things. People get confused. > Research is research and I dont mind to play around > and see what works best.. But personally I need them > clearly defined, and defined as " research " . > I hope that the great minds can come to a common > conclusion. > > 3) I heard Shri Jyoti Star ? has Sanjays version of > Drig Dasa and others but it is costly. > > I feel grateful that Narasimha has given his software > for free. > Now if I can only figure out whats happening with each > version of these Dasas/// > Best wishes > Lakshmi > > > > > --- Shanmukha <teli_sha2002 wrote: > > > > > Om Namah Sivaya > > > > Namaste All, > > > > > > > > I am writing this mail with a very frustrated heart. > > Let me explain a > > bit. I have given a mail regarding the calculation > > of Drig Dasa. I have > > waited almost a week for someone, at least one, to > > respond. It is really > > frustrating to daily and go to one of the computers > > that are connected > > to internet in our Dept. and check if somebody > > responded. I hope if not > > others, at least Narasimha to respond since he > > brought an article on > > that dasa. I know that everybody here is very busy > > and may not respond > > to each and every message that crops up, but I > > *feel* my message > > contains a sustance to discuss. > > > > > > > > I am just summarizing below the points I raised. > > > > > > > > 1. I have shown on how to calculate the successive > > dasas in Drig dasa > > which contradicts Sri Sanjay and Sri Narasimha Rao. > > > > > > > > 2. I have shown on why 7, 8, and 9 years > > respectively be allotted to > > Movable, Fixed and Dual signs, and why not 9 years > > to each signs, which > > is connectd to dasa progression. > > > > > > > > 3. I have shown why BPHS can't be followed to > > interpret Rasi dasas and I > > can show how may places BPHS slokas just resembles > > Vriddha karkika > > slokas. I strongly feel, if you don't have vriddha > > karika slokas and try > > to interpret Jaimini is like sailing without > > compass. I can show a no. > > of scholars tried to translate Jaimini Sutras > > without consulting Vriddha > > Karikas and how they are wrong. > > > > > > > > 4. In fact, Narasimha was complaining that the > > critique that printed in > > Jyotish Digest didn't touched the important concepts > > like dasa years and > > dasa progression, and I responded to the same. But > > he didn't turn up. > > > > > > > > 5. I have been associated with SJC Hyderabad since > > 2002 and I tried to > > be passive all these years, but when it comes to > > Jaimini I wanted to > > share my understanding, yet nobody tried to even > > care the important > > issue I raised. Since there are a no. of Gurus on > > this forum and they > > can at least prove me wrong which may benefit me and > > others as well. > > > > > > > > Well, I know my absence doen't affect this forum or > > anybody. Yet, I want > > to again go quiet on these forums. I will bring out > > the other side of > > Jaimini teaching which has been not brought light on > > my first blog site. > > Interested readers may kindly visit > > http://sutramritam.blogspot.com > > <http://sutramritam.blogspot.com/> to view my views > > on important > > aspects of Jaimini. > > > > > > > > In the mail I am referring, I raised the points how > > dasa progresses, and > > I have not touched how to know the first dasa. Well, > > the first dasa is > > always 9th house, but there are a couple of views on > > 9th house, same as > > vriddha karika method of 8th house. I thought I > > would bring it too, but > > since nobody interested here, instead I will show > > that on my blog very > > soon. There I will show how BPHS sloka that > > Narasimha used will be > > useful. > > > > > > > > This looks like I am boasting. Let it be. Yet I > > sincerely tell you what > > I am write on this topic is not my research or > > findings but based on > > ancient commentaries, which were suppressed for the > > years. > > > > > > > > Seeking Blessings, > > Shanmukha. > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Shanmukha " > > <teli_sha2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Narasimha, > > > > > > > > > > > > Narasimha : I know that that is a > > misrepresentation of tradition. > > Sanjay > > > ji clearly told me privately in the past that it > > was *his* innovative > > > idea and *not* from his elders. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your words above create a lot of confusion and > > distress in the minds > > of > > > the students like me. In fact, these words > > question the very root of > > > Sanjayji's teachings. You made similar > > allegations/comments in your > > > earlier mails also. I request you not to voice > > these comments in > > public > > > forums since he is your Guru and he is not ready > > to respond. I request > > > you to continue to bring your independent research > > as you have been > > > doing. Else, you will be wasting a lot of your > > Tapas Sakti and that is > > > detrimental to the astrological fraternity. > > > > > > > > > > > > Coming back to Drig Dasa again, I request you to > > see the other side of > > > the coin as well. Drig dasa was not only dealt > > with in BPHS, but in a > > > number of other Jaimini works. Please, kindly > > refer to them also > > before > > > fixing up your mind on this dasa. As the taste of > > pudding lies in > > > eating, we shall experiment on the other > > variations of this dasa > > system > > > as well as you have done on BPHS version. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you agree on that your interpretation of Drig > > dasa must be > > reconciled > > > with Jaimini, then I would like to point some more > > points. The other > > > readers may ponder. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Jaimini says *Trikoota* in the adhikara sutra. > > As per your > > > interpretation, for example, Aries Lagna, the Dasa > > signs are Sg, Pi, > > Ge, > > > Vi, Cp, ….. etc. So, the first group signs are all > > Dual signs. > > > Aren't they? Then, where does that Trikoota > > Padakrama fit in your > > > interpretation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Narasimha. Thank-you for the details. So Sanjays version does not appear at all in the new JH just released recently? Can you please clarify which other Dasa- Narayana Dasa, Sudasa, or any other Dasas that maybe different in the new JH , than what differs in what Sanjay is teaching. Can you please clarify any other differing opinions you have .. sunrise, ayanamsa,etc that are yours in the new JH? I want to know before I download it. THANK-YOU Lakshmi --- Narasimha Rao <pvr wrote: > Dear Lakshmi, > > As far as drigdasa support in JHora is concerned, > there have not been > too many confusing changes. > > JHora for a long time contained only what Sanjay ji > taught. > > Earlier this year, I released a version of JHora > that gave two > versions - Sanjay ji's version and Parasara's > version that I taught in > my paper (which is identical to BPHS translation by > Santhanam). > > When Parasara's version was added to JHora, it was > chosen as the > default. Apart from adding Parasara's version while > choosing it as the > default, there have been no further changes in > drigdasa. > > * * * > > Why did I choose it as the default when I added > Parasara's version? > > Well, Sanjay ji conceded to me privately that he was > taught drigdasa > along with many dasas in just one afternoon and that > he just took some > brief notes. He said he may have made mistakes. > > Secondly, Parasara's verses on drigdasa contain > nothing controversial > or ambiguous and are quite clear. When Parasara's > words are clear, I > see no reason to deviate from him. > > Moreover, I looked at many charts and there is a day > and night > difference in the clarity brought by Parasara's > version. > > I saw no reason to keep Sanjay ji's version as the > default given these > factors. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > sohamsa , Lakshmi Kary > <lakshmikary wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Shanmukha, > > I was also waiting to see the answers you would > get! > > Several things.. > > 1) I think at this point in time MOST people are > > confused which Drig Dasa is right or this or > > that,,,,,, geez Ive even lost track of which > version > > is in which JH! > > 2) I would love to see the answers to your > questions, > > But once and for all, > > I would like someone to clearly SPELL out the > > 1)The formula Sanjays is currently recommending > for > > DASAs not just Drig Dasa. Please If he can add it > to > > his web site for reference it would help us all. > (as > > personally , I like to follow his path) > > > > 2) Narasimhas final formula and conclusions-IS > > everything now in that paper he gave.? > > > > THis is one BIG problem when there are various > > versions.It cast doubt on things. People get > confused. > > Research is research and I dont mind to play > around > > and see what works best.. But personally I need > them > > clearly defined, and defined as " research " . > > I hope that the great minds can come to a common > > conclusion. > > > > 3) I heard Shri Jyoti Star ? has Sanjays version > of > > Drig Dasa and others but it is costly. > > > > I feel grateful that Narasimha has given his > software > > for free. > > Now if I can only figure out whats happening with > each > > version of these Dasas/// > > Best wishes > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > --- Shanmukha <teli_sha2002 wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Namah Sivaya > > > > > > Namaste All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am writing this mail with a very frustrated > heart. > > > Let me explain a > > > bit. I have given a mail regarding the > calculation > > > of Drig Dasa. I have > > > waited almost a week for someone, at least one, > to > > > respond. It is really > > > frustrating to daily and go to one of the > computers > > > that are connected > > > to internet in our Dept. and check if somebody > > > responded. I hope if not > > > others, at least Narasimha to respond since he > > > brought an article on > > > that dasa. I know that everybody here is very > busy > > > and may not respond > > > to each and every message that crops up, but I > > > *feel* my message > > > contains a sustance to discuss. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am just summarizing below the points I raised. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. I have shown on how to calculate the > successive > > > dasas in Drig dasa > > > which contradicts Sri Sanjay and Sri Narasimha > Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I have shown on why 7, 8, and 9 years > > > respectively be allotted to > > > Movable, Fixed and Dual signs, and why not 9 > years > > > to each signs, which > > > is connectd to dasa progression. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. I have shown why BPHS can't be followed to > > > interpret Rasi dasas and I > > > can show how may places BPHS slokas just > resembles > > > Vriddha karkika > > > slokas. I strongly feel, if you don't have > vriddha > > > karika slokas and try > > > to interpret Jaimini is like sailing without > > > compass. I can show a no. > > > of scholars tried to translate Jaimini Sutras > > > without consulting Vriddha > > > Karikas and how they are wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. In fact, Narasimha was complaining that the > > > critique that printed in > > > Jyotish Digest didn't touched the important > concepts > > > like dasa years and > > > dasa progression, and I responded to the same. > But > > > he didn't turn up. > > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Dear Lakshmi All the options are there in the new Jhora, you just need to configure the settings depending on which one you want to use. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Sat, 6/12/08, Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikary wrote: Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikaryRe: Drigdasa and JHora Clarificationsohamsa Date: Saturday, 6 December, 2008, 6:35 AM Hare Rama KrishnaDear Narasimha.Thank-you for the details.So Sanjays version does not appear at all in the newJH just released recently?Can you please clarify which other Dasa- NarayanaDasa, Sudasa, or any other Dasas that maybe differentin the new JH , than what differs in what Sanjay is teaching.Can you please clarify any other differing opinionsyou have ..sunrise, ayanamsa,etc that are yours in the new JH? Iwant to know before I download it.THANK-YOULakshmi--- Narasimha Rao <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:> Dear Lakshmi,> > As far as drigdasa support in JHora is concerned,> there have not been> too many confusing changes.> > JHora for a long time contained only what Sanjay ji> taught.> > Earlier this year, I released a version of JHora> that gave two> versions - Sanjay ji's version and Parasara's> version that I taught in> my paper (which is identical to BPHS translation by> Santhanam).> > When Parasara's version was added to JHora, it was> chosen as the> default. Apart from adding Parasara's version while> choosing it as the> default, there have been no further changes in> drigdasa.> > * * *> > Why did I choose it as the default when I added> Parasara's version?> > Well, Sanjay ji conceded to me privately that he was> taught drigdasa> along with many dasas in just one afternoon and that> he just took some> brief notes. He said he may have made mistakes.> > Secondly, Parasara's verses on drigdasa contain> nothing controversial> or ambiguous and are quite clear. When Parasara's> words are clear, I> see no reason to deviate from him.> > Moreover, I looked at many charts and there is a day> and night> difference in the clarity brought by Parasara's> version.> > I saw no reason to keep Sanjay ji's version as the> default given these> factors.> > Best regards,> Narasimha>------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Do a Short Homam Yourself:> http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself:> http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana> Spirituality:> http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3):> http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net> Free Jyotish software (Windows):> http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website:> http://www.SriJagan nath.org>------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > sohamsa@ .com, Lakshmi Kary> <lakshmikary@ ...> wrote:> >> > Hare Rama Krishna> > Dear Shanmukha,> > I was also waiting to see the answers you would> get!> > Several things..> > 1) I think at this point in time MOST people are> > confused which Drig Dasa is right or this or> > that,,,,,, geez Ive even lost track of which> version> > is in which JH!> > 2) I would love to see the answers to your> questions,> > But once and for all,> > I would like someone to clearly SPELL out the > > 1)The formula Sanjays is currently recommending> for> > DASAs not just Drig Dasa. Please If he can add it> to> > his web site for reference it would help us all.> (as> > personally , I like to follow his path)> > > > 2) Narasimhas final formula and conclusions- IS> > everything now in that paper he gave.?> > > > THis is one BIG problem when there are various> > versions.It cast doubt on things. People get> confused.> > Research is research and I dont mind to play> around> > and see what works best.. But personally I need> them> > clearly defined, and defined as "research".> > I hope that the great minds can come to a common> > conclusion.> > > > 3) I heard Shri Jyoti Star ? has Sanjays version> of> > Drig Dasa and others but it is costly.> > > > I feel grateful that Narasimha has given his> software> > for free.> > Now if I can only figure out whats happening with> each> > version of these Dasas///> > Best wishes> > Lakshmi> > > > > > > > > > --- Shanmukha <teli_sha2002@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > Om Namah Sivaya> > > > > > Namaste All,> > > > > > > > > > > > I am writing this mail with a very frustrated> heart.> > > Let me explain a> > > bit. I have given a mail regarding the> calculation> > > of Drig Dasa. I have> > > waited almost a week for someone, at least one,> to> > > respond. It is really> > > frustrating to daily and go to one of the> computers> > > that are connected> > > to internet in our Dept. and check if somebody> > > responded. I hope if not> > > others, at least Narasimha to respond since he> > > brought an article on> > > that dasa. I know that everybody here is very> busy> > > and may not respond> > > to each and every message that crops up, but I> > > *feel* my message> > > contains a sustance to discuss.> > > > > > > > > > > > I am just summarizing below the points I raised.> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. I have shown on how to calculate the> successive> > > dasas in Drig dasa> > > which contradicts Sri Sanjay and Sri Narasimha> Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I have shown on why 7, 8, and 9 years> > > respectively be allotted to> > > Movable, Fixed and Dual signs, and why not 9> years> > > to each signs, which> > > is connectd to dasa progression.> > > > > > > > > > > > 3. I have shown why BPHS can't be followed to> > > interpret Rasi dasas and I> > > can show how may places BPHS slokas just> resembles> > > Vriddha karkika> > > slokas. I strongly feel, if you don't have> vriddha> > > karika slokas and try> > > to interpret Jaimini is like sailing without> > > compass. I can show a no.> > > of scholars tried to translate Jaimini Sutras> > > without consulting Vriddha> > > Karikas and how they are wrong.> > > > > > > > > > > > 4. In fact, Narasimha was complaining that the> > > critique that printed in> > > Jyotish Digest didn't touched the important> concepts> > > like dasa years and> > > dasa progression, and I responded to the same.> But> > > he didn't turn up.> > > > === message truncated === Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Namaste Lakshmi, > So Sanjays version does not appear at all in the new > JH just released recently? As I said, Parasara's version was " added " to JHora, i.e. Sanjay's version is still there. But, Parasara's version is used by default. If you want Sanjay's version, click the " Options " button when displaying drigdasa and change it to Sanjay's version. All other dasas have remained the same for a long time. Sudasa and Tara dasa are two exceptions. Sudasa is one dasa that went through some changes over the years (though not in this release), but that is based on changes in what Sanjay ji told me and NOT based on my research. Sanjay ji changed its definition a few times and I kept following what he told me. In the previous release, Tara dasa was changed inadvertantly. I inadvertantly left over some code I was experimenting with based on Parasara's verse. That is my mistake. In 7.3, I restored Sanjay ji's latest teaching to me (which was in all old versions of JHora). What I was experimenting with is not ready for sharing with others yet and hence will not be available. Only Sanjay ji's latest teaching is available. Regarding Kalachakra dasa, a false alarm was raised that JH differed from what was taught in the joint paper of Sanjay ji and I. But that proved incorrect. JH matches what was given in the paper. The things I gave based on my study and research in JHora are: (1) Ayanamsa - the default is Lahiri ayanamsa, but two modified versions are available if you want to try. I recommend " Modified Lahiri (true Chitrapakska - Chitra at 180 deg, fixed Vishnu nabhi plane) " . But the default is standard Lahiri to avoid confusion. (2) Parasara's Drigdasa - Sanjay's drigdasa is still available. (3) Chara karaka options - " Hybrid 7/8 karakas of Parasara " is an option added in latest JHora, but the default is eight chara karakas as before, so that you can follow Sanjay ji. (4) Tithi pravesha - I modified the definition based on Hindu tradition and made it available. But Sanjay ji's definition is the default. (5) A Kalachakra dasa option attributed to Raghavacharya. The version in the joint paper of Sanjay ji and I is also there. Lakshmi, apart from stating the above, I cannot explain all the preferences to you. If you are interested, download it and explore the options. If anything is unclear, ask me. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org sohamsa , Lakshmi Kary <lakshmikary wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > Dear Narasimha. > Thank-you for the details. > So Sanjays version does not appear at all in the new > JH just released recently? > Can you please clarify which other Dasa- Narayana > Dasa, Sudasa, or any other Dasas that maybe different > in the new JH , than what differs in what Sanjay is > teaching. > > Can you please clarify any other differing opinions > you have .. > sunrise, ayanamsa,etc that are yours in the new JH? I > want to know before I download it. > THANK-YOU > Lakshmi > > > --- Narasimha Rao <pvr wrote: > > > Dear Lakshmi, > > > > As far as drigdasa support in JHora is concerned, > > there have not been > > too many confusing changes. > > > > JHora for a long time contained only what Sanjay ji > > taught. > > > > Earlier this year, I released a version of JHora > > that gave two > > versions - Sanjay ji's version and Parasara's > > version that I taught in > > my paper (which is identical to BPHS translation by > > Santhanam). > > > > When Parasara's version was added to JHora, it was > > chosen as the > > default. Apart from adding Parasara's version while > > choosing it as the > > default, there have been no further changes in > > drigdasa. > > > > * * * > > > > Why did I choose it as the default when I added > > Parasara's version? > > > > Well, Sanjay ji conceded to me privately that he was > > taught drigdasa > > along with many dasas in just one afternoon and that > > he just took some > > brief notes. He said he may have made mistakes. > > > > Secondly, Parasara's verses on drigdasa contain > > nothing controversial > > or ambiguous and are quite clear. When Parasara's > > words are clear, I > > see no reason to deviate from him. > > > > Moreover, I looked at many charts and there is a day > > and night > > difference in the clarity brought by Parasara's > > version. > > > > I saw no reason to keep Sanjay ji's version as the > > default given these > > factors. > > > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > Spirituality: > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > > http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > > > > sohamsa , Lakshmi Kary > > <lakshmikary@> wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > Dear Shanmukha, > > > I was also waiting to see the answers you would > > get! > > > Several things.. > > > 1) I think at this point in time MOST people are > > > confused which Drig Dasa is right or this or > > > that,,,,,, geez Ive even lost track of which > > version > > > is in which JH! > > > 2) I would love to see the answers to your > > questions, > > > But once and for all, > > > I would like someone to clearly SPELL out the > > > 1)The formula Sanjays is currently recommending > > for > > > DASAs not just Drig Dasa. Please If he can add it > > to > > > his web site for reference it would help us all. > > (as > > > personally , I like to follow his path) > > > > > > 2) Narasimhas final formula and conclusions-IS > > > everything now in that paper he gave.? > > > > > > THis is one BIG problem when there are various > > > versions.It cast doubt on things. People get > > confused. > > > Research is research and I dont mind to play > > around > > > and see what works best.. But personally I need > > them > > > clearly defined, and defined as " research " . > > > I hope that the great minds can come to a common > > > conclusion. > > > > > > 3) I heard Shri Jyoti Star ? has Sanjays version > > of > > > Drig Dasa and others but it is costly. > > > > > > I feel grateful that Narasimha has given his > > software > > > for free. > > > Now if I can only figure out whats happening with > > each > > > version of these Dasas/// > > > Best wishes > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Shanmukha <teli_sha2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Sivaya > > > > > > > > Namaste All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am writing this mail with a very frustrated > > heart. > > > > Let me explain a > > > > bit. I have given a mail regarding the > > calculation > > > > of Drig Dasa. I have > > > > waited almost a week for someone, at least one, > > to > > > > respond. It is really > > > > frustrating to daily and go to one of the > > computers > > > > that are connected > > > > to internet in our Dept. and check if somebody > > > > responded. I hope if not > > > > others, at least Narasimha to respond since he > > > > brought an article on > > > > that dasa. I know that everybody here is very > > busy > > > > and may not respond > > > > to each and every message that crops up, but I > > > > *feel* my message > > > > contains a sustance to discuss. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am just summarizing below the points I raised. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. I have shown on how to calculate the > > successive > > > > dasas in Drig dasa > > > > which contradicts Sri Sanjay and Sri Narasimha > > Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I have shown on why 7, 8, and 9 years > > > > respectively be allotted to > > > > Movable, Fixed and Dual signs, and why not 9 > > years > > > > to each signs, which > > > > is connectd to dasa progression. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. I have shown why BPHS can't be followed to > > > > interpret Rasi dasas and I > > > > can show how may places BPHS slokas just > > resembles > > > > Vriddha karkika > > > > slokas. I strongly feel, if you don't have > > vriddha > > > > karika slokas and try > > > > to interpret Jaimini is like sailing without > > > > compass. I can show a no. > > > > of scholars tried to translate Jaimini Sutras > > > > without consulting Vriddha > > > > Karikas and how they are wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. In fact, Narasimha was complaining that the > > > > critique that printed in > > > > Jyotish Digest didn't touched the important > > concepts > > > > like dasa years and > > > > dasa progression, and I responded to the same. > > But > > > > he didn't turn up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Narasimha, THANK-You for the elaboration, as at times I cant read all the e-mails on the list ,and I had lost track of what was happening with JH changes. Your post helps me see now.. Ok, good . All the best Lakshmi --- Narasimha Rao <pvr wrote: > Namaste Lakshmi, > > > So Sanjays version does not appear at all in the > new > > JH just released recently? > > As I said, Parasara's version was " added " to JHora, > i.e. Sanjay's > version is still there. But, Parasara's version is > used by default. If > you want Sanjay's version, click the " Options " > button when displaying > drigdasa and change it to Sanjay's version. > > All other dasas have remained the same for a long > time. Sudasa and > Tara dasa are two exceptions. Sudasa is one dasa > that went through > some changes over the years (though not in this > release), but that is > based on changes in what Sanjay ji told me and NOT > based on my > research. Sanjay ji changed its definition a few > times and I kept > following what he told me. > > In the previous release, Tara dasa was changed > inadvertantly. I > inadvertantly left over some code I was > experimenting with based on > Parasara's verse. That is my mistake. In 7.3, I > restored Sanjay ji's > latest teaching to me (which was in all old versions > of JHora). What I > was experimenting with is not ready for sharing with > others yet and > hence will not be available. Only Sanjay ji's latest > teaching is > available. > > Regarding Kalachakra dasa, a false alarm was raised > that JH differed > from what was taught in the joint paper of Sanjay ji > and I. But that > proved incorrect. JH matches what was given in the > paper. > > The things I gave based on my study and research in > JHora are: > > (1) Ayanamsa - the default is Lahiri ayanamsa, but > two modified > versions are available if you want to try. I > recommend " Modified > Lahiri (true Chitrapakska - Chitra at 180 deg, fixed > Vishnu nabhi > plane) " . But the default is standard Lahiri to avoid > confusion. > (2) Parasara's Drigdasa - Sanjay's drigdasa is still > available. > (3) Chara karaka options - " Hybrid 7/8 karakas of > Parasara " is an > option added in latest JHora, but the default is > eight chara karakas > as before, so that you can follow Sanjay ji. > (4) Tithi pravesha - I modified the definition based > on Hindu > tradition and made it available. But Sanjay ji's > definition is the > default. > (5) A Kalachakra dasa option attributed to > Raghavacharya. The version > in the joint paper of Sanjay ji and I is also there. > > Lakshmi, apart from stating the above, I cannot > explain all the > preferences to you. If you are interested, download > it and explore the > options. If anything is unclear, ask me. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > sohamsa , Lakshmi Kary > <lakshmikary wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Narasimha. > > Thank-you for the details. > > So Sanjays version does not appear at all in the > new > > JH just released recently? > > Can you please clarify which other Dasa- Narayana > > Dasa, Sudasa, or any other Dasas that maybe > different > > in the new JH , than what differs in what Sanjay > is > > teaching. > > > > Can you please clarify any other differing > opinions > > you have .. > > sunrise, ayanamsa,etc that are yours in the new > JH? I > > want to know before I download it. > > THANK-YOU > > Lakshmi > > > > > > --- Narasimha Rao <pvr wrote: > > > > > Dear Lakshmi, > > > > > > As far as drigdasa support in JHora is > concerned, > > > there have not been > > > too many confusing changes. > > > > > > JHora for a long time contained only what Sanjay > ji > > > taught. > > > > > > Earlier this year, I released a version of JHora > > > that gave two > > > versions - Sanjay ji's version and Parasara's > > > version that I taught in > > > my paper (which is identical to BPHS translation > by > > > Santhanam). > > > > > > When Parasara's version was added to JHora, it > was > > > chosen as the > > > default. Apart from adding Parasara's version > while > > > choosing it as the > > > default, there have been no further changes in > > > drigdasa. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Why did I choose it as the default when I added > > > Parasara's version? > > > > > > Well, Sanjay ji conceded to me privately that he > was > > > taught drigdasa > > > along with many dasas in just one afternoon and > that > > > he just took some > > > brief notes. He said he may have made mistakes. > > > > > > Secondly, Parasara's verses on drigdasa contain > > > nothing controversial > > > or ambiguous and are quite clear. When > Parasara's > > > words are clear, I > > > see no reason to deviate from him. > > > > > > Moreover, I looked at many charts and there is a > day > > > and night > > > difference in the clarity brought by Parasara's > > > version. > > > > > > I saw no reason to keep Sanjay ji's version as > the > > > default given these > > > factors. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: > > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: > > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > > Spirituality: > > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > > > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > > > http://www.SriJagannath.org > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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