When Did Lord Krishna Live? (Lord Balabhadra/Baladeva/Balarama's Chart)

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Namaste All,

 

In this connection of Mahabharata war, I take reference to the book

named " Mahabharata Kala Nirnayam " , in Telugu by Sri Vedavyasa Ph.D.

Sri Vedavyasa was an IAS officer with traditional learning in Vedic

sciences and did his PhD in Sanskrit regarding dating of Mahabharata

which was awarded PhD by Andhra University, Visakhapatnam, India. In

his book he proves that the date of Krisha birth day in 3228 BC

only. I *believe* he uses Raman Ayanamsa from the other charts he

prepared. Though, he doen't uses modern Astronomical software.

 

If somebody wants I can give the chart prepared by him.

 

Warm regards,

Shanmukha

 

sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote:

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> " Thus, Sri Krishna could NOT have been born in 3228 BC, which

would

> make him 161 years old at the time of war. "

>

> Is the paramayus same in all Yugas?

>

> Best regards,

> SS

>

>

>

>

>

> sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear SanjayP,

> >

> > > Since we have approximate Lord Krishna's Chart, I was

thinking

> of trying

> > >

> > > June 24, -3227

> >

> > I am confident based on highly credible modern astronomy

research

> that the chart of Lord Krishna you gave is definitely wrong.

> >

> > Traditionally, we assume that Kali yuga started in 3102 BC. From

> it, people derive the date of Mahabharata war a few decades before

> and Krishna's birth several more decades before.

> >

> > However, we no longer need to guess when Mahabharata war took

> place. We know it for sure now. The war happened in 3067 BC. Thus,

> Sri Krishna could NOT have been born in 3228 BC, which would make

him

> 161 years old at the time of war. We don't know for sure when Kali

> yuga started. But we do know that the Mahabharata war happened in

> 3067 BC.

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > Dr Narahari Achar is a professor in the department of physics at

> the University of Memphis in Memphis, USA. While some good-

> intentioned people before him made bad attempts at dating the

> Mahabharata war based on approximate linear models of planetary

> motion, Dr Achar used accurate modern planetarium software to

> evaluate various astronomical observations of Vyasa in the

> Mahabharata epic and find the date.

> >

> > He conclusively established that ALL the astronomical references

> given by Vyasa regarding the war in the Mahabharata text happened

in

> 3067 BC and that no other year in the last 6000 years satisfies

all

> the criteria! He actually published a scientific paper in a

> scientific journal related to astronomy on the timing of

Mahabharata

> war! The work passed heavy peer review by fellow astronomers.

> >

> > I and Dr Achar met when I went to India this summer and spent a

> couple of days together. I had a chance to look at his scientific

> paper critically and review the Sanskrit quotes in it and also the

> astronomical portions. His paper is a very coherent and logical

piece

> of work that proves quite convincingly that several rare

astronomical

> events mentioned by Vyasa were not randomly chosen finctional

events,

> but they all happened together at a specific point in time.

> >

> > His scientific paper very strongly suggests that Mahabharata

must

> have actually happened in 3067 BC, that Vyasa must have been able

to

> observe planetary positions and that he must have chronicled his

> observations in Mahabharata text.

> >

> > When Kali yuga started, when Krishna was born and when Krishna

left

> earth is not known for sure. But, it is known for sure that

> Mahabharata war happened in 3067 BC.

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > This means Krishna was not born in 3228 BC as believed by some.

He

> must have been born much later. I actually have a specific chart

that

> is the result of the intuition of a yogi. It has five planets in

> amrita shashtyamsa and has several features that make a lot more

> sense to me than what has been accepted by most. Moreover, it fits

> with the Mahabharata timing by modern astronomy. However, I will

not

> mention the data for now. I will first let people get over this

3228

> BC chart, which is definitely wrong.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

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> >

> > sohamsa , " Sanjay Prabhakaran "

> <sanjaychettiar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > >

> > > Dear Jyotishas,

> > >

> > > Since we have approximate Lord Krishna's Chart, I was

thinking

> of trying

> > > out Lord Balarama's chart. I was trying to search in the

internet

> for his

> > > birth data like Balaram Jayanthi etc.

> > > I get many dates,

> > > 1) Gamhapurnima i.e Shravana Poornima

> > > 2) Akshaya Tritiya i.e Vaishaka Shulka Tritya

> > > 3) HalaShashti i.e Bhadrapada Krishna Shashti

> > >

> > > Brihat Nakshatra book I think gives it as Bhadrapada Shukla

> Dwitiya.

> > >

> > > The time is either given as Madhyaana (noon) or pradosha

> (evening) Brihat

> > > Nax.

> > >

> > > Can someone please give any information, if possible with

> reference or

> > > tradition, to Balarama's birth details.

> > >

> > > Warm Regards

> > > Sanjay P

> > >

> > >

> > > Sri Krishna

> > >

> > > Natal Chart

> > >

> > > June 24, -3227

> > > Time: 12:20:00 am

> > > Time Zone: 5:10:44 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 77 E 41' 57 " , 27 N 30' 20 "

> > > India, 1

> > > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> > >

> > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Sreemukha - Nija Ashadha

> > > Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (17.00% left)

> > > Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju)

> > > Nakshatra: Mrigasira (Ma) (27.73% left)

> > > Yoga: Harshana (Su) (80.16% left)

> > > Karana: Balava (Mo) (34.00% left)

> > > Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sc)

> > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Li)

> > > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)

> > >

> > > Sunrise: 4:59:05 am (June 23)

> > > Sunset: 6:36:28 pm (June 23)

> > > Janma Ghatis: 48.3715

> > >

> > > Ayanamsa: 311-38-26.09

> > > Sidereal Time: 16:42:36

> > >

> > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi

Navamsa

> > >

> > > Lagna 21 Ar 19' 50.32 " Bhar 3 Ar Li

> > > Sun - BK 23 Cn 00' 32.29 " Asre 2 Cn Cp

> > > Moon - DK 2 Ge 58' 08.72 " Mrig 3 Ge Li

> > > Mars - MK 16 Ge 59' 41.84 " Ardr 4 Ge Pi

> > > Mercury - GK 13 Cn 05' 49.08 " Push 3 Cn Li

> > > Jupiter - AK 26 Le 00' 35.27 " PPha 4 Le Sc

> > > Venus ® - AmK 23 Cn 22' 58.98 " Asre 3 Cn Aq

> > > Saturn ® - PK 16 Sc 47' 47.48 " Jye 1 Sc Sg

> > > Rahu 15 Cn 59' 04.61 " Push 4 Cn Sc

> > > Ketu 15 Cp 59' 04.61 " Srav 2 Cp Ta

> > > Maandi 20 Ta 53' 47.52 " Rohi 4 Ta Cn

> > > Gulika 7 Ta 01' 57.62 " Krit 4 Ta Pi

> > > Bhava Lagna 12 Ta 27' 40.96 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar

> > > Hora Lagna 2 Pi 41' 24.45 " PBha 4 Pi Cn

> > > Ghati Lagna 3 Le 22' 34.93 " Magh 2 Le Ta

> > > Vighati Lagna 6 Vi 48' 27.33 " UPha 4 Vi Pi

> > > Varnada Lagna 21 Pi 19' 50.32 " Reva 2 Pi Ta

> > > Sree Lagna 11 Cp 29' 45.83 " Srav 1 Cp Ar

> > > Pranapada Lagna 7 Vi 35' 02.16 " UPha 4 Vi Pi

> > > Indu Lagna 2 Ar 58' 08.72 " Aswi 1 Ar Ar

> > > Dhooma 6 Sg 20' 32.29 " Mool 2 Sg Ta

> > > Vyatipata 23 Cn 39' 27.71 " Asre 3 Cn Aq

> > > Parivesha 23 Cp 39' 27.71 " Dhan 1 Cp Le

> > > Indra Chapa 6 Ge 20' 32.29 " Mrig 4 Ge Sc

> > > Upaketu 23 Ge 00' 32.29 " Puna 1 Ge Ar

> > > Kaala 0 Cn 27' 43.40 " Puna 4 Cn Cn

> > > Mrityu 9 Aq 55' 20.51 " Sata 1 Aq Sg

> > > Artha Prahara 27 Aq 47' 59.82 " PBha 3 Aq Ge

> > > Yama Ghantaka 17 Pi 42' 29.48 " Reva 1 Pi Sg

> > > Prana Sphuta 23 Le 41' 09.23 " PPha 4 Le Sc

> > > Deha Sphuta 0 Li 47' 07.40 " Chit 3 Li Li

> > > Mrityu Sphuta 12 Ar 14' 15.64 " Aswi 4 Ar Cn

> > > Sookshma TriSphuta 6 Pi 42' 32.27 " UBha 2 Pi Vi

> > > TriSphuta 1 Le 19' 56.67 " Magh 1 Le Ar

> > > ChatusSphuta 24 Sc 20' 28.96 " Jye 3 Sc Aq

> > > PanchaSphuta 10 Pi 19' 33.56 " UBha 3 Pi Li

> > > Kunda 17 Cp 46' 56.04 " Srav 3 Cp Ge

> > >

> > > +--------------+

> > > | \ | | / |

> > > | \ Gk | As | / |

> > > | \ | | / |

> > > | Mo \ Md | | HL / |

> > > | \ | | / |

> > > | Ma \ | | / |

> > > | \ | | / |

> > > |---------------+---------------+---------------|

> > > | | | |

> > > | Su Me | | Ke |

> > > | VeR Ra | | |

> > > | | Rasi | |

> > > | | | |

> > > | | | |

> > > | | | |

> > > |---------------+---------------+---------------|

> > > | / | | \ |

> > > | GL AL / | | \ |

> > > | / | | \ |

> > > | Ju / | | SaR \ |

> > > | / | | \ |

> > > | / | | \ |

> > > | / | | \ |

> > > +---------------+---------------+---------------+

> > >

> > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

> > >

> > > Mars Mars -3232-06-01 Rah -3232-10-27 Jup -3231-11-14

> > > Sat -3230-10-22 Merc -3229-11-29 Ket -3228-11-26

> > > Ven -3227-04-25 Sun -3226-06-27 Moon -3226-10-31

> > > Rah Rah -3225-06-02 Jup -3222-02-09 Sat -3220-07-09

> > > Merc -3217-05-14 Ket -3215-11-29 Ven -3214-12-17

> > > Sun -3211-12-17 Moon -3210-11-12 Mars -3208-05-13

> > > Jup Jup -3207-06-02 Sat -3205-07-22 Merc -3202-01-28

> > > Ket -3200-05-07 Ven -3199-04-12 Sun -3197-12-11

> > > Moon -3196-10-01 Mars -3194-01-28 Rah -3193-01-04

> > > Sat Sat -3191-06-02 Merc -3188-06-05 Ket -3185-02-09

> > > Ven -3184-03-21 Sun -3181-05-24 Moon -3180-05-04

> > > Mars -3179-12-02 Rah -3177-01-10 Jup -3175-11-18

> > > Merc Merc -3172-06-02 Ket -3170-10-28 Ven -3169-10-26

> > > Sun -3166-08-27 Moon -3165-07-04 Mars -3164-11-29

> > > Rah -3163-11-26 Jup -3160-06-17 Sat -3158-09-23

> > > Ket Ket -3155-06-02 Ven -3155-10-28 Sun -3154-12-26

> > > Moon -3153-05-05 Mars -3153-12-03 Rah -3152-05-01

> > > Jup -3151-05-20 Sat -3150-04-25 Merc -3149-06-06

> > > Ven Ven -3148-06-02 Sun -3145-10-02 Moon -3144-10-02

> > > Mars -3142-06-02 Rah -3141-08-03 Jup -3138-08-03

> > > Sat -3135-03-31 Merc -3132-06-02 Ket -3129-04-01

> > > Sun Sun -3128-06-02 Moon -3128-09-20 Mars -3127-03-18

> > > Rah -3127-07-28 Jup -3126-06-21 Sat -3125-04-07

> > > Merc -3124-03-18 Ket -3123-01-22 Ven -3123-06-02

> > > Moon Moon -3122-06-02 Mars -3121-04-01 Rah -3121-11-01

> > > Jup -3119-05-02 Sat -3118-09-03 Merc -3116-03-31

> > > Ket -3115-09-02 Ven -3114-03-31 Sun -3113-11-30

> >

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