Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Dear Hariharan, You have raised the very important point about Upapada . This is not finally settled among well known savants.I will express my opinion if it is of some worth ( Though it is based in my learning and also experience , but I will not mention any names to avoid controversy): 1.In sloka 2 , the word ANUCHAR has come ,This logically means which follows and not following the ascending sign. 12H follows Lagna.2H rises after Lagna. 2. 2H is sustainer and 12H is protector. Varahamihira says Vesi bhava is important and vital for the upliftment for the significance of any planet or of any Bhava.Compare the results of Vesi and Vosi yogas..Vosi yoga gives strength and skills which helps the native in his profession.Upapada is karka for prosperity, Progeny and legal spouse.Sex and business partner are judged from darapada. This gives the indication that Upapada is pada of 12H. 3. In Mahabharta , Yaksha asks from Yudhistra ,what is the difference in wife(spouse) and Woman. He replies, ( Spouse divides Artha-prosperity in between Dharma and Bhoga in such judicious manner that Husband gets Mokhsha-salvation. The contact of woman opens the flood gates of hell.) 12H IS THE HOUSE OF SALVATION. 4.Now examine from other view point: Upapada represent prosperity of native - Lagna ; Progeny -5H , Spouse -7H. 12H is 12th from Lagna, 8th from 5H and 6th house from 7H.In case , 12H and its Lord is in benefic influence and its Pada is also well placed along with 2H FROM the pada of 12H IS IN BENEFIC INFLUENCE,THE MARRIAGE WILL NOT ONLY PROVE FRUITFUL BUT PROSPERITY AFTER MARRIAGE IS ENSURED. As Upapada is based on the principle of Dharma, Sun and Ketu do not harm it ( unlike Darapada). 5. It appears to me that various dicta given in BPHS and Updesa Sutra of Jamini are based on this philosophy. 6.I am using pada of 12H as Upapada and getting encouraging results. Regards, G.K.GOEL INDIA ________________________________ v Monday, 22 December, 2008 6:57:43 AM Upapada lagna Dear all, I was translating BPHS chapter 30. I came accross the following verse 2 tanubhavapadam vipra pradhanam padam uchyate Tanoho anucharadhyat syat upa arudham tad uchyate The AL is spoken of as utmost importance. The house following the tanu bhava is taken for the calculation of the upapada I always thought that UL is calculated from the 12th house. So Parashara says 2nd house for calculation, Jaimini says 12th house. Santhanam has mentioned based on Jaimini's other commentaries- chaukumbh hindi edition 12th house for odd sign ascending and 2nd house for even sign ascending. Any other learned views? Regards, bhagavathi Get your own website and domain for just Rs.1,999/year.* Go to http://in.business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Dear Hariharan, You have raised the very important point about Upapada . This is not finally settled among well known savants.I will express my opinion if it is of some worth ( Though it is based in my learning and also experience , but I will not mention any names to avoid controversy): 1.In sloka 2 , the word ANUCHAR has come ,This logically means which follows and not following the ascending sign. 12H follows Lagna.2H rises after Lagna. 2. 2H is sustainer and 12H is protector. Varahamihira says Vesi bhava is important and vital for the upliftment for the significance of any planet or of any Bhava.Compare the results of Vesi and Vosi yogas.Vosi yoga gives strength and skills which helps the native in his profession.Upapada is karka for prosperity, Progeny and legal spouse.Sex and business partner are judged from darapada. This gives the indication that Upapada is pada of 12H. 3. In Mahabharta , Yaksha asks from Yudhistra ,what is the difference in wife(spouse) and Woman. He replies, ( Spouse divides Artha-prosperity in between Dharma and Bhoga in such judicious manner that Husband gets Mokhsha-salvation. The contact of woman opens the flood gates of hell.) 12H IS THE HOUSE OF SALVATION. 4.Now examine from other view point: Upapada represent prosperity of native - Lagna ; Progeny -5H , Spouse -7H. 12H is 12th from Lagna, 8th from 5H and 6th house from 7H.In case , 12H and its Lord is in benefic influence and its Pada is also well placed along with 2H FROM the pada of 12H IS IN BENEFIC INFLUENCE,THE MARRIAGE WILL NOT ONLY PROVE FRUITFUL BUT PROSPERITY AFTER MARRIAGE IS ENSURED. As Upapada is based on the principle of Dharma, Sun and Ketu do not harm it ( unlike Darapada). 5. It appears to me that various dicta given in BPHS and Updesa Sutra of Jamini are based on this philosophy. 6.I am using pada of 12H as Upapada and getting encouraging results.Regards, G.K.GOELINDIA v Sent: Monday, 22 December, 2008 6:57:43 AM Upapada lagna Dear all,I was translating BPHS chapter 30. I came accross the following verse2 tanubhavapadam vipra pradhanam padam uchyateTanoho anucharadhyat syat upa arudham tad uchyateThe AL is spoken of as utmost importance. The house following the tanu bhava is taken for the calculation of the upapadaI always thought that UL is calculated from the 12th house. So Parashara says 2nd house for calculation, Jaimini says 12th house. Santhanam has mentioned based on Jaimini's other commentaries- chaukumbh hindi edition 12th house for odd sign ascending and 2nd house for even sign ascending. Any other learned views?Regards,bhagavathi Get rid of Add-Ons in your email ID. Get yourname. Sign up now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Dear Hariharan, > I always thought that UL is calculated from the 12th house. So > Parashara says 2nd house for calculation, Jaimini says 12th house. > Santhanam has mentioned based on Jaimini's other commentaries- > chaukumbh hindi edition 12th house for odd sign ascending and 2nd house > for even sign ascending. Any other learned views? Though I take 12th house as the house for Upapada and get consistent results. Since, you have asked for *learned views*, I refer to Jaimini Sutramritam by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya, where he explained Upapada calculation different from male and female charts. If any body wants, I will write again. Right now, I dont exactly remember what he explained. Regards, Shanmukha sohamsa , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Hariharan, > You have raised the very important point about > Upapada . This is not finally settled among well known > savants.I will express my opinion if it is of some worth ( Though > it is based in my learning and also experience , but I will not mention any > names to avoid controversy): > 1.In sloka 2 , the word ANUCHAR has come ,This > logically means which follows and not following the ascending sign. > 12H follows Lagna.2H rises after Lagna. > 2. 2H is sustainer and 12H is protector. Varahamihira says Vesi bhava > is important and vital for the upliftment for the significance of any planet or of > any Bhava.Compare the results of Vesi and Vosi yogas..Vosi yoga gives strength > and skills which helps the native in his profession.Upapada is karka for prosperity, > Progeny and legal spouse.Sex and business partner are judged from darapada. > This gives the indication that Upapada is pada of 12H. > 3. In Mahabharta , Yaksha asks from Yudhistra ,what is the difference in > wife(spouse) and Woman. He replies, ( Spouse divides Artha- prosperity > in between Dharma and Bhoga in such judicious manner that Husband gets Mokhsha-salvation. > The contact of woman opens the flood gates of hell.) > 12H IS THE HOUSE OF SALVATION. > 4.Now examine from other view point: Upapada represent prosperity > of native - Lagna ; Progeny -5H , Spouse -7H. 12H is 12th from Lagna, 8th from 5H and 6th house > from 7H.In case , 12H and its Lord is in benefic influence and its Pada is also well placed along with > 2H FROM the pada of 12H IS IN BENEFIC INFLUENCE,THE MARRIAGE WILL NOT ONLY PROVE FRUITFUL BUT > PROSPERITY AFTER MARRIAGE IS ENSURED. As Upapada is based on the principle of Dharma, Sun and Ketu do not harm it ( unlike Darapada). > 5. It appears to me that various dicta given in BPHS and Updesa Sutra of Jamini are based on this philosophy. > 6.I am using pada of 12H as Upapada and getting encouraging results. > Regards, > > G.K.GOEL > > > INDIA > > > > > ________________________________ > v > > Monday, 22 December, 2008 6:57:43 AM > Upapada lagna > > > Dear all, > > I was translating BPHS chapter 30. I came accross the following verse > > 2 tanubhavapadam vipra pradhanam padam uchyate > Tanoho anucharadhyat syat upa arudham tad uchyate > > The AL is spoken of as utmost importance. The house following the tanu > bhava is taken for the calculation of the upapada > > I always thought that UL is calculated from the 12th house. So > Parashara says 2nd house for calculation, Jaimini says 12th house. > Santhanam has mentioned based on Jaimini's other commentaries- > chaukumbh hindi edition 12th house for odd sign ascending and 2nd house > for even sign ascending. Any other learned views? > > Regards, > bhagavathi > > > > > Get your own website and domain for just Rs.1,999/year.* Go to http://in.business. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 om paramesthi gurave namah Dear Shanmukha I completely disagree with the male/female bifurcation for UL calculation as used by Sri Rangacharya. It does not have the support of the classics. With Warm Regards Sanjay Rath http://srath.com http://sohamsa.com http://.org 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Shanmukha 28 December 2008 18:31 sohamsa Re: Upapada lagna Dear Hariharan, > I always thought that UL is calculated from the 12th house. So > Parashara says 2nd house for calculation, Jaimini says 12th house. > Santhanam has mentioned based on Jaimini's other commentaries- > chaukumbh hindi edition 12th house for odd sign ascending and 2nd house > for even sign ascending. Any other learned views? Though I take 12th house as the house for Upapada and get consistent results. Since, you have asked for *learned views*, I refer to Jaimini Sutramritam by Sri Iranganti Rangacharya, where he explained Upapada calculation different from male and female charts. If any body wants, I will write again. Right now, I dont exactly remember what he explained. Regards, Shanmukha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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