Utpal Pathak Chart (Planetary Special Lagna Research)

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Dear Michal,

 

>Mercury (Ishta Devata) also conjoins Sun,

 

It seems a typo error. i think you ment Mercury Lagnesh and not

Ishta. Mercury is not my Ishta. infact difficult to find my ishta

from D9 chart.

correct me if i am wrong.

 

Best Regards

 

Utpal

sohamsa , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal

wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> If Utpal's Navamsa Lagna is changed to Dhanus then this changes

D20 Lagna. If Navamsa Lagna is Tula then D20 changes with about a

minute. Are you sure about the birthtime enough to venture into the

20th division? If you did consider this then please mention the

process in your future mails for our benefit.

>

> If we limit ourselves to Rashi chart, then I can see that AK Sun

is exalted in the 5th from Jupiter, making the antardasa of Sun in

the mahadasa of Jupiter excellent. Mercury (Ishta Devata) also

conjoins Sun, paka lagna, dhimantah yoga, AK/PK... Saturn however

is in the 6th from Jupiter - is this a good position from Jupiter

and would this be good for spirituality? Saturn is afflicting the

Moon who is in dusthana and aspected by Rahu from 8th house.

>

> Sure Saturn is yogakaraka for Gemini lagna. But what about Saturn

antardasa marked from points like mahadasa lord, Moon and AL (tripod

rule)?

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr

> sohamsa

> Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:50:03 AM

> Utpal Pathak Chart (Re: Planetary Special Lagna

Research)

>

>

> Namaste Utpal and Sanjay,

>

> > In any case you will need to wait till Jupiter

> dasha Sun antardasa to know

> > something more about your spiritual

> path.

>

> Utpal is running Jupiter dasa Saturn antardasa.

> Saturn is the 9th lord. The close conjunction of Moon and Saturn

in 12th house

> has the potential to give a high level of detachment. Now let us

look at D-20 to

> see more.

>

> In D-20, Saturn is 4th and 5th lord (yogakaraka)

> and joins the 9th and 12th lord Mercury in 12th. There is a very

nice raja yoga

> given by Saturn and Mercury. From dasa lord Jupiter in D-20,

antardasa lord

> Saturn is 9th and 10th lord and joins exalted 5th lord in 5th.

>

> In my judgment, Utpal will make pretty good

> spiritual progress in Saturn and Mercury antardasas and there is

no need to

> " wait till " Sun antardasa.

>

> Utpal, keep your focus and do not be discouraged by

> the comments of learned Jyotishis.

>

> Best

> regards,

> Narasimha

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> sohamsa@ .com, " Sanjay Rath "

> <sjrath@> wrote:

> >

> > om paramesthi gurave namah

> >

> > Dear Utpal

> >

> > I wonder as to the placement of Venus and

> Mars in the 2nd house from your

> > navamsa lagna. Please correct the birth

> time to tula navamsa instead or

> > Dhanus navamsha lagna based on life

> events.

> >

> > In any case you will need to wait till Jupiter dasha

> Sun antardasa to know

> > something more about your spiritual path.

> >

> > With Warm Regards

> >

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

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> > 15B

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> > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .

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> > utpal pathak

> > Sent:

> 14 February 2009 15:30

> > sohamsa@ .com

> >

> Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research

> >

> >

> correction: Date of initiation is 3.09.2008

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40.

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> , " utpal

> > pathak " <vedic_pathak@>

> > wrote:

> >

> >

> > > Dear JKDa,

> > >

> > > Take my example for

> 'Ke12'. 'Ke12' in my Chart falls in 12th House.

> > >

> > > My

> Chart Data: 14.05.1972, 8.15.05 am, Idar 73e0, 23n50

> > >

> > >

> I was accepted as a Disciple by My Spiritual Guru, during my

> > >

> Guru/Shani/Mangal Period. Exact Date is 3.09.2009

> > >

> > > 12

> th from Ketu (Anti-Zodiacally) is Mithuna. Guru has Rashi as

> > well

> > > as Grajha Drashti on Mithuna. Shani sits in Ke12 and Mars

again in

> > > 12th from Ke12 (i.e. Lagna). Mars also becomes my BK as per

Mixed

> > > settings.

> > >

> > >

> > > Take TP of

> 2008/9.

> > >

> > > Ke12 is in 9th House and 12th from it is

> Mithuna. Lord is Budha

> > > which is Lagna Lord as well and sits in 9th

> house (which also

> > > carries Ke12). Budha is a Hora Lord too.

> >

> >

> > > on 3rd Sept 09, i was running Budha Tirthi Ashtottari

> Dasha.

> > >

> > > seems Intresting !

> > >

> > >

> Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Utpal

> > >

> > > ---

> In sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>

> ,

> > " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta@>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> >

> > > > Dear PVR,

> > > >

> > > > Really

> interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna lord

> > in

> >

> > 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup dasa.

> >

> > >

> > > > What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like

> you have

> > > mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5

> (GL) for

> > > power etc.

> > > >

> > > >

> Regards

> > > >

> > > > Jk

> > > >

> > >

> >

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> >

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> > On

> > > Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

> > > >

> Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AM

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> > > > Planetary Special Lagna Research

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > 

> > > >

> Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > > You have mentioned some

> exciting aspects of special lagna and

> > > > > specifically

> mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the

> > > information

> > >

> > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in

> >

> > detail

> > > > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your

> contribution on

> > > Astrology.

> > > > > I will be

> grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

> > > >

> >

> > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a

> >

> parampara.

> > > So it is not covered by any classic or modern

> book.

> > > >

> > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on

> special lagnas, I just

> > > generalized it and followed up on the

> result of my intuition with

> > > some practical testing. In my limited

> research, I found these

> > > special planetary lagnas to be

> interesting.

> > > >

> > > > I can give some examples using

> Ve7. If this makes no sense to

> > > you, please ignore the research. If

> it makes sense to you, please

> > > feel free to use the knowledge,

> develop it further and also spread

> > > it freely.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > Definition of Ve7:

> Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna,

> > ghati

> > > lagna etc.

> We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the time

> > > Venus rises

> (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the

> > same

> > >

> longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the

> > zodiac

> > > and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's

rise of

> > > Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg

in

> > > about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special

lagna

> > > research " feature can be used to show it in charts.

> > >

> >

> > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as

> the

> > speed

> > > factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to

> do with power and

> > > authority, while Ve7 has to do with

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that

> BL, HL, GL etc can be used as

> > > references and houses can be found

> from them just like lagna. In

> > my

> > > experience, I found that

> Ve7 and 7th from it are important for

> > > marriage. Usually, antardasa

> of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa)

> > > is related to a planet

> linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some

> > > manner. In the annual

> Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage

> > > also, you will find a

> strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and

> > lagna.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > Example 1:

> Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12,

> > > 16n15. In the

> natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from

> > Ve7

> > > is

> Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-

> > >

> Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at

> 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7

> > > is Moon and

> 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord

> > > Mercury in the

> 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA

> > > dasa, the

> native got married.

> > > >

> > > > Example 2: Birthdata is

> 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21,

> > > 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The

> 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins

> > > lagna lord Jupiter.

> Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama

> > > dasa (10th lord is

> in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage.

> > > >

> > >

> > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus.

> > Marriage

> > > happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per

> annual TP chart.

> > > >

> > > > Example 3: Birthdata is

> 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28,

> > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The

> 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th

> > > aspect on lagna. Lagna

> lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-

> > > Saturn antardasa gave

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart.

> Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Mercury and he

> joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is

> > in

> > > lagna and

> he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th

> > > from Ve7

> with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.

> > > >

> > >

> > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST),

> > 80e23,

> > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in

Li.

> > Its

> > > lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars

> aspects him by

> > > 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from

> lagna, Mercury-Mars

> > > antardasa gave marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house

> > > from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus.

> > > Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July

> 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06,

> > > 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi

> and Rahu in lagna aspects

> > > it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP

> chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th

> > lord

> > > from Ve7 is Venus. He

> is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury.

> > Marriage

> > > happened in

> Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.

> > > >

> > >

> > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45

> >

> > am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is

> >

> Saturn

> > > and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th

> aspect on

> > the

> > > 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He

> too connects them. Saturn-

> > > Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa

> brought marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP

> chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He

> aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought

> > > marriage.

> >

> > >

> > > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST),

> 81e12,

> > > 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord

> Mars

> > aspects

> > > it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

> Saturn. He joins the

> > > dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun

> also joins them. She

> > got

> > > married in Mars-Sun

> antardasa.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart.

> Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Jupiter and he is

> in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted

> > > Venus and he aspects lagna.

> Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual

> > TA

> > > dasa brought

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Example 8 (George Bush):

> Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4

> > > hrs west of GMT), New Haven,

> CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ). Ve7

> > is

> > > in Pi. The 7th

> from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon.

> > Dwisaptati

> > > sama

> dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that

> > dasa,

> >

> > he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.

> > > >

> > >

> > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from

> > >

> Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married

> > >

> in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.

> > > >

> > >

> > * * *

> > > >

> > > > Ve7 is only one example. Several

> other planetary special

> > lagnas

> > > based on other planets and

> other houses can be defined. They can

> > > also be used. This is an

> area for research.

> > > >

> > > > For example, find Ke12

> by starting at Ketu's longitude when

> > Ketu

> > > rises, progress

> *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around

> > > the zodiac (in

> reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how

> > > Ke12 is found.

> It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th

> > house

> > >

> anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that

> > >

> and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment

> > happen.

> > > Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi,

Aurobindo

> > > Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the

> > 12th

> > > house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is

> a very

> > > interesting coincidence.

> > > >

> > >

> > * * *

> > > >

> > > > GL defined by Parasara is

> nothing but Su5 in the special

> > > planetary lagna notation of JHora.

> Planets linking the 5th from GL

> > > to lagna can bring political power

> based on my research.

> > > >

> > > > Let us revisit

> example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He

> > > joins lagna lord

> Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa,

> > Jupiter

> > > dasa

> during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his

> > >

> presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and

> > he

> > > is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended.

> > >

> >

> > > > Let us see one more example.

> > > >

> >

> > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January

> >

> 5,

> > > 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from

GL

> is

> > > Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa

> started

> > in

> > > 1997 and he became a central minister in India

> in 1998. Ketu is in

> > > 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he

> has no graha

> > drishti

> > > and hence we see rasi drishti only).

> His antardasa in 2004-2005

> > > brought loss of political power. Moon

> antardasa in Jupiter dasa is

> > > running now. Moon has half aspect on

> the 5th from GL and aspects

> > > lagna. He can give political power

> again.

> > > >

> > > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL

> is in Le. The 5th lord from

> > > GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord

> Mars. He became a central

> > > minister in Jupiter's annual TA

> dasa.

> > > >

> > > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917

> May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west

> > > of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " ,

> 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in

> > > vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started

> from lagna applies. He

> > became

> > > a congressman in

> Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in

> > Jupiter-

> > > Moon

> antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna.

> > > Moon

> is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord.

> > > >

> > > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord

> from

> > > GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord

> > > Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in

> > > presidential elections.

> > > >

> > > > * *

> *

> > > >

> > > > Links between lagna and houses from

> planetary special lagnas

> > > seem to be important for important events

> in both natal charts

> > > (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa)

> and annual Tithi

> > > Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari

> dasa).

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > >

> Narasimha

> > > >

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> > > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM

> > > >

> jhora re: special lagna clarification given

> > > by

> Sri Narasimharaogaru

> > > >

> > > > Sri Narasimharao

> garu,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste. You have mentioned some

> > exciting

> > > aspects of special lagna and specifically

> mentioned by Ve7. You

> > may

> > > kindly give the information as

> to which book I have to refer to

> > know

> > > these concepts in

> detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your

> > > contribution on

> Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly

> > > enlighten me on

> this.

> > > >

> > > > with regards,

> > > >

> S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM

>

>

>

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Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Utpal,Thank you for the details. Please allow me to comment below [M]...Respectfully,Michalutpal pathak <vedic_pathaksohamsa Sent: Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:37:56 PM Utpal Pathak Chart (Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research)

 

Namaste Michal,

 

First i need to clarify that my birth time is rectified by myself.

Narasimha has accepted it as it is.

my recorded time is 8.15am (i was born in my maternal grand parent's

home in a small village).

 

I've always felt that my recorded time is very nearly correct. I

rectfied further on 2 bases mainly 1) My marraige on 13.12.196 2)

D60 Chart.

[M] If you are serious about rectifying your birth time you should see the divisional charts based on many events. Here you are saying just D9 and D60.

if you take TP of 1996/97. D9 of that year has Moon & Saturn in

Lagna. 7th lord & Lagna lord in 3rd aspecting 9th House where Sun is

Placed. There are two distinct aspects of my marriage.

i) Marraige was of not my liking then. Internally i was not all

happy (Rather i was very sad) at the marraige time

ii) My marriage was performed at a unique place. On top of a Small

Hill in a Shiva Tample (Historically connected to Kanva Rishi).

 

Now if you see my D9 in TP96, Moon & Saturn in Lagna very well shows

my State of Mind w.r.t. marraige aspect. Sun in the 9th house

strogly aspected by Jupiter can show some strong influence of

Hill/Temple/ Shiva.

 

Now if in My Rashi Chart, if D9 is adjusted to Dhanu, then D9 Lagna

in TP96 will change to Scorpio having Guru & Budha in Lagna while

Rahu in 9th. Guru & Budha does not show Sad state of mind respect to

marraige. while it is difficult to co-relate Rahu in 9th and

Marriage in Temple etc...

 

If we take Tula D9, D9 in TP96 still fullfills the above thought

criteria as the d9 in TP will still be same i.e. vergo with

Moon+Saturn.

[M] TP has you have shown can be very sensitive. It is best to confirm the birth chart first. Then use TP. Using TP to rectify birthchart introduces many unnecessary complications.

BUT Now the other judging criterial again is the Main D9 Chart. I

feel (And Tangibly proved by the fact that It wa Shiva Temple) that

i have blessings of Shiva-Gauri in my marriage. though i was very

sad with the marraige initially for many years, the situation is

changed. Saturn +Moon fits well in 7th house of D9.

[M] 7th house in Navamsa is the spouse. What is your spouse like? UL is the situation and emotion (arudha) regarding marriage. Look at your UL. Ketu is there. Moon is the lord conjoined Saturn showing the sadness you felt. Saturn is 9th lord of temples.

Moreover, In my D60 Venus being Badhaka and becoming very strong has

created lot of problems in this life. Marraige happened in

Mercury/Mercury Mool Dasha. Mercury is in 7th House (MKS) in D60.

[M] Now we are jumping into D60. What about D10, D12, D24...

***

 

Regarding My Saturn AntarDasha - It is now about to complete hence i

can take a factual Stock of it. In Guru/Guru & Guru/Saturn Period, i

did all the Sadhanas which i did. Learnt Kriya Yoga, Meditation

etc.. through Art of Livivng soc. In Saturn subperiod, I found

Spiritual Guru, Started Homas on Regular Basis, recitation Chandi

paath on Regular basis and few such things. The 'Bhoot' of

Spirituality has really grasped me during this period. though i must

say that since childhood that bhoot is with me but now it seems to

have gone to head seriously.

 

as you rightly said, Saturn's 6th position from Dasha lord Guru has

created its own problems in life but the acivities in spiritual

realm has definately increased maniflod.

[M] Sounds like Saturn antardasa has been great spiritually. So what combinations are there to make it so? If the combinations are there then that will verify your experience.

***

 

Moon in Graha Yudha with Saturn, in 12th, exalted-Vargottama, Pushkar

Bahaga,defeated, aspected by Rahu all in one is Real confusing

combination for astrologer community.

 

I have extremely caring mother, Sisters, wife and aunts. i have gone

thro' great period of depressions but saved always by Mars+Venus and

Guru. Mother's is a big influence in my life. She put me back on my

feet when i was shttered by Child Polio attack exactly on the day of

TP1974.

 

I share your concern about Moon with Saturn and aspected by Rahu. I

did complete Matru Shapa Remedies prescribed by one great soul whose

name is Ram Narayan. may mother bless him. That great man helped me

when i was in a desparate situation due to my mother's physical

sufferings related to spinal chord. I did 1000 Parikrama of Lord

Vitthal-Rukamani, Chanted 'Om Namo Naaraayanaay' Mantra 1008 times

day for 34 days and Visited Rameshwaram and took a holy deep in 2006.

I started Remedial measure in Mars Hora on 6th of June 2005 which

was a Somavati Amavasya and also 'Shanaischar Jayanti'. I took Bath

in Rameshwaram on 18th Aug 2006.

***

coming back to original topic of D9, there are few other things

which made me believe about My d9 to be scorpio but that will make

this message still longer.

[M] This is what I am interested in before going into past lives ie. getting the basics right. If you put a case forward for Scorpio I'll definately look through it.

All in all, i wish to say that D9 in my opinion seems to be correct

one but i welcome if somebody with better insight can still explain

me if there is any chance of correction to that.

 

thanks for reading

 

Best Regards,

 

Utpal

 

sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> If Utpal's Navamsa Lagna is changed to Dhanus then this changes

D20 Lagna. If Navamsa Lagna is Tula then D20 changes with about a

minute. Are you sure about the birthtime enough to venture into the

20th division? If you did consider this then please mention the

process in your future mails for our benefit.

>

> If we limit ourselves to Rashi chart, then I can see that AK Sun

is exalted in the 5th from Jupiter, making the antardasa of Sun in

the mahadasa of Jupiter excellent. Mercury (Ishta Devata) also

conjoins Sun, paka lagna, dhimantah yoga, AK/PK... Saturn however

is in the 6th from Jupiter - is this a good position from Jupiter

and would this be good for spirituality? Saturn is afflicting the

Moon who is in dusthana and aspected by Rahu from 8th house.

>

> Sure Saturn is yogakaraka for Gemini lagna. But what about Saturn

antardasa marked from points like mahadasa lord, Moon and AL (tripod

rule)?

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr

> sohamsa@ .com

> Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:50:03 AM

> Utpal Pathak Chart (Re: Planetary Special Lagna

Research)

>

>

> Namaste Utpal and Sanjay,

>

> > In any case you will need to wait till Jupiter

> dasha Sun antardasa to know

> > something more about your spiritual

> path.

>

> Utpal is running Jupiter dasa Saturn antardasa.

> Saturn is the 9th lord. The close conjunction of Moon and Saturn

in 12th house

> has the potential to give a high level of detachment. Now let us

look at D-20 to

> see more.

>

> In D-20, Saturn is 4th and 5th lord (yogakaraka)

> and joins the 9th and 12th lord Mercury in 12th. There is a very

nice raja yoga

> given by Saturn and Mercury. From dasa lord Jupiter in D-20,

antardasa lord

> Saturn is 9th and 10th lord and joins exalted 5th lord in 5th.

>

> In my judgment, Utpal will make pretty good

> spiritual progress in Saturn and Mercury antardasas and there is

no need to

> "wait till" Sun antardasa.

>

> Utpal, keep your focus and do not be discouraged by

> the comments of learned Jyotishis.

>

> Best

> regards,

> Narasimha

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>

> sohamsa@ .com, "Sanjay Rath"

> <sjrath@> wrote:

> >

> > om paramesthi gurave namah

> >

> > Dear Utpal

> >

> > I wonder as to the placement of Venus and

> Mars in the 2nd house from your

> > navamsa lagna. Please correct the birth

> time to tula navamsa instead or

> > Dhanus navamsha lagna based on life

> events.

> >

> > In any case you will need to wait till Jupiter dasha

> Sun antardasa to know

> > something more about your spiritual path.

> >

> > With Warm Regards

> >

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

> > http://srath. com http://sohamsa. com http:// .org

> >

> > 15B

> Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .

com] On Behalf Of

> > utpal pathak

> >

> 14 February 2009 15:30

> > sohamsa@ .com

> >

> Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research

> >

> >

> correction: Date of initiation is 3.09.2008

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40.

com>

> , "utpal

> > pathak" <vedic_pathak@ >

> > wrote:

> >

> >

> > > Dear JKDa,

> > >

> > > Take my example for

> 'Ke12'. 'Ke12' in my Chart falls in 12th House.

> > >

> > > My

> Chart Data: 14.05.1972, 8.15.05 am, Idar 73e0, 23n50

> > >

> > >

> I was accepted as a Disciple by My Spiritual Guru, during my

> > >

> Guru/Shani/Mangal Period. Exact Date is 3.09.2009

> > >

> > > 12

> th from Ketu (Anti-Zodiacally) is Mithuna. Guru has Rashi as

> > well

> > > as Grajha Drashti on Mithuna. Shani sits in Ke12 and Mars

again in

> > > 12th from Ke12 (i.e. Lagna). Mars also becomes my BK as per

Mixed

> > > settings.

> > >

> > >

> > > Take TP of

> 2008/9.

> > >

> > > Ke12 is in 9th House and 12th from it is

> Mithuna. Lord is Budha

> > > which is Lagna Lord as well and sits in 9th

> house (which also

> > > carries Ke12). Budha is a Hora Lord too.

> >

> >

> > > on 3rd Sept 09, i was running Budha Tirthi Ashtottari

> Dasha.

> > >

> > > seems Intresting !

> > >

> > >

> Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Utpal

> > >

> > > ---

> In sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>

> ,

> > "jk.dasgupta" <jk.dasgupta@ >

> > > wrote:

> > >

> >

> > > > Dear PVR,

> > > >

> > > > Really

> interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna lord

> > in

> >

> > 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup dasa.

> >

> > >

> > > > What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like

> you have

> > > mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5

> (GL) for

> > > power etc.

> > > >

> > > >

> Regards

> > > >

> > > > Jk

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40. com>

> >

> [sohamsa <sohamsa% 40.

com>

> ]

> > On

> > > Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

> > > >

> Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AM

> > > > vedic astrology

> >

> <vedic- astrology% 40. com>

> ;

> > > <JyotishGrou p %

40. com>

> ;

> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>

> ;

> > > sjcBoston@grou ps.com <sjcBoston% 40.

com>

> > > > Planetary Special Lagna Research

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > 

> > > >

> Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > > You have mentioned some

> exciting aspects of special lagna and

> > > > > specifically

> mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the

> > > information

> > >

> > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in

> >

> > detail

> > > > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your

> contribution on

> > > Astrology.

> > > > > I will be

> grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

> > > >

> >

> > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a

> >

> parampara.

> > > So it is not covered by any classic or modern

> book.

> > > >

> > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on

> special lagnas, I just

> > > generalized it and followed up on the

> result of my intuition with

> > > some practical testing. In my limited

> research, I found these

> > > special planetary lagnas to be

> interesting.

> > > >

> > > > I can give some examples using

> Ve7. If this makes no sense to

> > > you, please ignore the research. If

> it makes sense to you, please

> > > feel free to use the knowledge,

> develop it further and also spread

> > > it freely.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > Definition of Ve7:

> Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna,

> > ghati

> > > lagna etc.

> We can perhaps call it "Sukra Dara Lagna". At the time

> > > Venus rises

> (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the

> > same

> > >

> longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the

> > zodiac

> > > and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's

rise of

> > > Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg

in

> > > about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's "special

lagna

> > > research" feature can be used to show it in charts.

> > >

> >

> > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as

> the

> > speed

> > > factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to

> do with power and

> > > authority, while Ve7 has to do with

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that

> BL, HL, GL etc can be used as

> > > references and houses can be found

> from them just like lagna. In

> > my

> > > experience, I found that

> Ve7 and 7th from it are important for

> > > marriage. Usually, antardasa

> of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa)

> > > is related to a planet

> linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some

> > > manner. In the annual

> Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage

> > > also, you will find a

> strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and

> > lagna.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > Example 1:

> Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12,

> > > 16n15. In the

> natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from

> > Ve7

> > > is

> Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-

> > >

> Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at

> 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7

> > > is Moon and

> 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord

> > > Mercury in the

> 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA

> > > dasa, the

> native got married.

> > > >

> > > > Example 2: Birthdata is

> 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21,

> > > 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The

> 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins

> > > lagna lord Jupiter.

> Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama

> > > dasa (10th lord is

> in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage.

> > > >

> > >

> > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus.

> > Marriage

> > > happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per

> annual TP chart.

> > > >

> > > > Example 3: Birthdata is

> 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28,

> > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The

> 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th

> > > aspect on lagna. Lagna

> lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-

> > > Saturn antardasa gave

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart.

> Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Mercury and he

> joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is

> > in

> > > lagna and

> he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th

> > > from Ve7

> with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.

> > > >

> > >

> > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST),

> > 80e23,

> > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in

Li.

> > Its

> > > lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars

> aspects him by

> > > 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from

> lagna, Mercury-Mars

> > > antardasa gave marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house

> > > from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus.

> > > Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July

> 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06,

> > > 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi

> and Rahu in lagna aspects

> > > it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP

> chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th

> > lord

> > > from Ve7 is Venus. He

> is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury.

> > Marriage

> > > happened in

> Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.

> > > >

> > >

> > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45

> >

> > am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is

> >

> Saturn

> > > and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th

> aspect on

> > the

> > > 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He

> too connects them. Saturn-

> > > Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa

> brought marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP

> chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He

> aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought

> > > marriage.

> >

> > >

> > > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST),

> 81e12,

> > > 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord

> Mars

> > aspects

> > > it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

> Saturn. He joins the

> > > dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun

> also joins them. She

> > got

> > > married in Mars-Sun

> antardasa.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart.

> Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Jupiter and he is

> in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted

> > > Venus and he aspects lagna.

> Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual

> > TA

> > > dasa brought

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Example 8 (George Bush):

> Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4

> > > hrs west of GMT), New Haven,

> CT, USA (72w55'43", 41n18'29"). Ve7

> > is

> > > in Pi. The 7th

> from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon.

> > Dwisaptati

> > > sama

> dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that

> > dasa,

> >

> > he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.

> > > >

> > >

> > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from

> > >

> Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married

> > >

> in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.

> > > >

> > >

> > * * *

> > > >

> > > > Ve7 is only one example. Several

> other planetary special

> > lagnas

> > > based on other planets and

> other houses can be defined. They can

> > > also be used. This is an

> area for research.

> > > >

> > > > For example, find Ke12

> by starting at Ketu's longitude when

> > Ketu

> > > rises, progress

> *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around

> > > the zodiac (in

> reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how

> > > Ke12 is found.

> It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th

> > house

> > >

> anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that

> > >

> and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment

> > happen.

> > > Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi,

Aurobindo

> > > Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the

> > 12th

> > > house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is

> a very

> > > interesting coincidence.

> > > >

> > >

> > * * *

> > > >

> > > > GL defined by Parasara is

> nothing but Su5 in the special

> > > planetary lagna notation of JHora.

> Planets linking the 5th from GL

> > > to lagna can bring political power

> based on my research.

> > > >

> > > > Let us revisit

> example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He

> > > joins lagna lord

> Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa,

> > Jupiter

> > > dasa

> during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his

> > >

> presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and

> > he

> > > is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended.

> > >

> >

> > > > Let us see one more example.

> > > >

> >

> > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January

> >

> 5,

> > > 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from

GL

> is

> > > Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa

> started

> > in

> > > 1997 and he became a central minister in India

> in 1998. Ketu is in

> > > 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he

> has no graha

> > drishti

> > > and hence we see rasi drishti only).

> His antardasa in 2004-2005

> > > brought loss of political power. Moon

> antardasa in Jupiter dasa is

> > > running now. Moon has half aspect on

> the 5th from GL and aspects

> > > lagna. He can give political power

> again.

> > > >

> > > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL

> is in Le. The 5th lord from

> > > GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord

> Mars. He became a central

> > > minister in Jupiter's annual TA

> dasa.

> > > >

> > > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917

> May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west

> > > of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18",

> 42n19'54"). Lagna is in

> > > vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started

> from lagna applies. He

> > became

> > > a congressman in

> Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in

> > Jupiter-

> > > Moon

> antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna.

> > > Moon

> is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord.

> > > >

> > > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord

> from

> > > GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord

> > > Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in

> > > presidential elections.

> > > >

> > > > * *

> *

> > > >

> > > > Links between lagna and houses from

> planetary special lagnas

> > > seem to be important for important events

> in both natal charts

> > > (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa)

> and annual Tithi

> > > Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari

> dasa).

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > >

> Narasimha

> > > >

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> > --

> >

> > -

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> >

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> >

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> >

> > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast.

net

> >

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rologer.org

> >

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nath.org

> > >

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> >

> --

> > > -

> > > > -

> > >

> > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran

> > > > jhora <jhora% 40.

com>

> > > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM

> > > >

> jhora re: special lagna clarification given

> > > by

> Sri Narasimharaogaru

> > > >

> > > > Sri Narasimharao

> garu,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste. You have mentioned some

> > exciting

> > > aspects of special lagna and specifically

> mentioned by Ve7. You

> > may

> > > kindly give the information as

> to which book I have to refer to

> > know

> > > these concepts in

> detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your

> > > contribution on

> Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly

> > > enlighten me on

> this.

> > > >

> > > > with regards,

> > > >

> S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM

>

>

>

>

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Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Utpal,Yes, I meant Lagnesha. Somewhere in the background I must have been thinking about my Ishta:)Regards,Michalutpal pathak <vedic_pathaksohamsa Sent: Sunday, 15 February, 2009 11:03:18 PMSubject:

Utpal Pathak Chart (Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research)

 

Dear Michal,

 

>Mercury (Ishta Devata) also conjoins Sun,

 

It seems a typo error. i think you ment Mercury Lagnesh and not

Ishta. Mercury is not my Ishta. infact difficult to find my ishta

from D9 chart.

correct me if i am wrong.

 

Best Regards

 

Utpal

sohamsa@ .com, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> If Utpal's Navamsa Lagna is changed to Dhanus then this changes

D20 Lagna. If Navamsa Lagna is Tula then D20 changes with about a

minute. Are you sure about the birthtime enough to venture into the

20th division? If you did consider this then please mention the

process in your future mails for our benefit.

>

> If we limit ourselves to Rashi chart, then I can see that AK Sun

is exalted in the 5th from Jupiter, making the antardasa of Sun in

the mahadasa of Jupiter excellent. Mercury (Ishta Devata) also

conjoins Sun, paka lagna, dhimantah yoga, AK/PK... Saturn however

is in the 6th from Jupiter - is this a good position from Jupiter

and would this be good for spirituality? Saturn is afflicting the

Moon who is in dusthana and aspected by Rahu from 8th house.

>

> Sure Saturn is yogakaraka for Gemini lagna. But what about Saturn

antardasa marked from points like mahadasa lord, Moon and AL (tripod

rule)?

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr

> sohamsa@ .com

> Sunday, 15 February, 2009 10:50:03 AM

> Utpal Pathak Chart (Re: Planetary Special Lagna

Research)

>

>

> Namaste Utpal and Sanjay,

>

> > In any case you will need to wait till Jupiter

> dasha Sun antardasa to know

> > something more about your spiritual

> path.

>

> Utpal is running Jupiter dasa Saturn antardasa.

> Saturn is the 9th lord. The close conjunction of Moon and Saturn

in 12th house

> has the potential to give a high level of detachment. Now let us

look at D-20 to

> see more.

>

> In D-20, Saturn is 4th and 5th lord (yogakaraka)

> and joins the 9th and 12th lord Mercury in 12th. There is a very

nice raja yoga

> given by Saturn and Mercury. From dasa lord Jupiter in D-20,

antardasa lord

> Saturn is 9th and 10th lord and joins exalted 5th lord in 5th.

>

> In my judgment, Utpal will make pretty good

> spiritual progress in Saturn and Mercury antardasas and there is

no need to

> "wait till" Sun antardasa.

>

> Utpal, keep your focus and do not be discouraged by

> the comments of learned Jyotishis.

>

> Best

> regards,

> Narasimha

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> sohamsa@ .com, "Sanjay Rath"

> <sjrath@> wrote:

> >

> > om paramesthi gurave namah

> >

> > Dear Utpal

> >

> > I wonder as to the placement of Venus and

> Mars in the 2nd house from your

> > navamsa lagna. Please correct the birth

> time to tula navamsa instead or

> > Dhanus navamsha lagna based on life

> events.

> >

> > In any case you will need to wait till Jupiter dasha

> Sun antardasa to know

> > something more about your spiritual path.

> >

> > With Warm Regards

> >

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

> > http://srath. com http://sohamsa. com http:// .org

> >

> > 15B

> Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .

com] On Behalf Of

> > utpal pathak

> >

> 14 February 2009 15:30

> > sohamsa@ .com

> >

> Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research

> >

> >

> correction: Date of initiation is 3.09.2008

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40.

com>

> , "utpal

> > pathak" <vedic_pathak@ >

> > wrote:

> >

> >

> > > Dear JKDa,

> > >

> > > Take my example for

> 'Ke12'. 'Ke12' in my Chart falls in 12th House.

> > >

> > > My

> Chart Data: 14.05.1972, 8.15.05 am, Idar 73e0, 23n50

> > >

> > >

> I was accepted as a Disciple by My Spiritual Guru, during my

> > >

> Guru/Shani/Mangal Period. Exact Date is 3.09.2009

> > >

> > > 12

> th from Ketu (Anti-Zodiacally) is Mithuna. Guru has Rashi as

> > well

> > > as Grajha Drashti on Mithuna. Shani sits in Ke12 and Mars

again in

> > > 12th from Ke12 (i.e. Lagna). Mars also becomes my BK as per

Mixed

> > > settings.

> > >

> > >

> > > Take TP of

> 2008/9.

> > >

> > > Ke12 is in 9th House and 12th from it is

> Mithuna. Lord is Budha

> > > which is Lagna Lord as well and sits in 9th

> house (which also

> > > carries Ke12). Budha is a Hora Lord too.

> >

> >

> > > on 3rd Sept 09, i was running Budha Tirthi Ashtottari

> Dasha.

> > >

> > > seems Intresting !

> > >

> > >

> Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Utpal

> > >

> > > ---

> In sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>

> ,

> > "jk.dasgupta" <jk.dasgupta@ >

> > > wrote:

> > >

> >

> > > > Dear PVR,

> > > >

> > > > Really

> interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna lord

> > in

> >

> > 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup dasa.

> >

> > >

> > > > What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like

> you have

> > > mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5

> (GL) for

> > > power etc.

> > > >

> > > >

> Regards

> > > >

> > > > Jk

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40. com>

> >

> [sohamsa <sohamsa% 40.

com>

> ]

> > On

> > > Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

> > > >

> Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AM

> > > > vedic astrology

> >

> <vedic- astrology% 40. com>

> ;

> > > <JyotishGrou p %

40. com>

> ;

> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>

> ;

> > > sjcBoston@grou ps.com <sjcBoston% 40.

com>

> > > > Planetary Special Lagna Research

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > 

> > > >

> Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > > You have mentioned some

> exciting aspects of special lagna and

> > > > > specifically

> mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the

> > > information

> > >

> > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in

> >

> > detail

> > > > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your

> contribution on

> > > Astrology.

> > > > > I will be

> grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on this.

> > > >

> >

> > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a

> >

> parampara.

> > > So it is not covered by any classic or modern

> book.

> > > >

> > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on

> special lagnas, I just

> > > generalized it and followed up on the

> result of my intuition with

> > > some practical testing. In my limited

> research, I found these

> > > special planetary lagnas to be

> interesting.

> > > >

> > > > I can give some examples using

> Ve7. If this makes no sense to

> > > you, please ignore the research. If

> it makes sense to you, please

> > > feel free to use the knowledge,

> develop it further and also spread

> > > it freely.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > Definition of Ve7:

> Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna,

> > ghati

> > > lagna etc.

> We can perhaps call it "Sukra Dara Lagna". At the time

> > > Venus rises

> (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the

> > same

> > >

> longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the

> > zodiac

> > > and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's

rise of

> > > Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg

in

> > > about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's "special

lagna

> > > research" feature can be used to show it in charts.

> > >

> >

> > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as

> the

> > speed

> > > factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to

> do with power and

> > > authority, while Ve7 has to do with

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that

> BL, HL, GL etc can be used as

> > > references and houses can be found

> from them just like lagna. In

> > my

> > > experience, I found that

> Ve7 and 7th from it are important for

> > > marriage. Usually, antardasa

> of marriage (based on nakshatra dasa)

> > > is related to a planet

> linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in some

> > > manner. In the annual

> Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of marriage

> > > also, you will find a

> strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and

> > lagna.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > Example 1:

> Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST), 81e12,

> > > 16n15. In the

> natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord from

> > Ve7

> > > is

> Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other. Saturn-

> > >

> Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at

> 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of Ve7

> > > is Moon and

> 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord

> > > Mercury in the

> 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's annual TA

> > > dasa, the

> native got married.

> > > >

> > > > Example 2: Birthdata is

> 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST), 80e21,

> > > 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The

> 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he joins

> > > lagna lord Jupiter.

> Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti sama

> > > dasa (10th lord is

> in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave marriage.

> > > >

> > >

> > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus.

> > Marriage

> > > happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per

> annual TP chart.

> > > >

> > > > Example 3: Birthdata is

> 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST), 80e28,

> > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The

> 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has 10th

> > > aspect on lagna. Lagna

> lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7. Jupiter-

> > > Saturn antardasa gave

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart.

> Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Mercury and he

> joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu is

> > in

> > > lagna and

> he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the 7th

> > > from Ve7

> with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.

> > > >

> > >

> > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST),

> > 80e23,

> > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in

Li.

> > Its

> > > lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars

> aspects him by

> > > 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from

> lagna, Mercury-Mars

> > > antardasa gave marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house

> > > from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus.

> > > Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July

> 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06,

> > > 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi

> and Rahu in lagna aspects

> > > it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP

> chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th

> > lord

> > > from Ve7 is Venus. He

> is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury.

> > Marriage

> > > happened in

> Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.

> > > >

> > >

> > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20, 7:12:45

> >

> > am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is

> >

> Saturn

> > > and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th

> aspect on

> > the

> > > 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He

> too connects them. Saturn-

> > > Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa

> brought marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP

> chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He

> aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa brought

> > > marriage.

> >

> > >

> > > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST),

> 81e12,

> > > 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord

> Mars

> > aspects

> > > it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is

> Saturn. He joins the

> > > dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun

> also joins them. She

> > got

> > > married in Mars-Sun

> antardasa.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart.

> Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Jupiter and he is

> in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has exalted

> > > Venus and he aspects lagna.

> Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per annual

> > TA

> > > dasa brought

> marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Example 8 (George Bush):

> Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am (4

> > > hrs west of GMT), New Haven,

> CT, USA (72w55'43", 41n18'29"). Ve7

> > is

> > > in Pi. The 7th

> from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon.

> > Dwisaptati

> > > sama

> dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that

> > dasa,

> >

> > he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.

> > > >

> > >

> > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th from

> > >

> Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got married

> > >

> in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.

> > > >

> > >

> > * * *

> > > >

> > > > Ve7 is only one example. Several

> other planetary special

> > lagnas

> > > based on other planets and

> other houses can be defined. They can

> > > also be used. This is an

> area for research.

> > > >

> > > > For example, find Ke12

> by starting at Ketu's longitude when

> > Ketu

> > > rises, progress

> *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go around

> > > the zodiac (in

> reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is how

> > > Ke12 is found.

> It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th

> > house

> > >

> anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between that

> > >

> and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment

> > happen.

> > > Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi,

Aurobindo

> > > Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the

> > 12th

> > > house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is

> a very

> > > interesting coincidence.

> > > >

> > >

> > * * *

> > > >

> > > > GL defined by Parasara is

> nothing but Su5 in the special

> > > planetary lagna notation of JHora.

> Planets linking the 5th from GL

> > > to lagna can bring political power

> based on my research.

> > > >

> > > > Let us revisit

> example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter. He

> > > joins lagna lord

> Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa,

> > Jupiter

> > > dasa

> during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with his

> > >

> presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL and

> > he

> > > is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended.

> > >

> >

> > > > Let us see one more example.

> > > >

> >

> > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934 January

> >

> 5,

> > > 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from

GL

> is

> > > Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa

> started

> > in

> > > 1997 and he became a central minister in India

> in 1998. Ketu is in

> > > 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he

> has no graha

> > drishti

> > > and hence we see rasi drishti only).

> His antardasa in 2004-2005

> > > brought loss of political power. Moon

> antardasa in Jupiter dasa is

> > > running now. Moon has half aspect on

> the 5th from GL and aspects

> > > lagna. He can give political power

> again.

> > > >

> > > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL

> is in Le. The 5th lord from

> > > GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord

> Mars. He became a central

> > > minister in Jupiter's annual TA

> dasa.

> > > >

> > > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917

> May 29, 4 pm (4 hours west

> > > of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18",

> 42n19'54"). Lagna is in

> > > vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started

> from lagna applies. He

> > became

> > > a congressman in

> Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in

> > Jupiter-

> > > Moon

> antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects lagna.

> > > Moon

> is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna lord.

> > > >

> > > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord

> from

> > > GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord

> > > Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in

> > > presidential elections.

> > > >

> > > > * *

> *

> > > >

> > > > Links between lagna and houses from

> planetary special lagnas

> > > seem to be important for important events

> in both natal charts

> > > (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa)

> and annual Tithi

> > > Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari

> dasa).

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > >

> Narasimha

> > > >

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> > > -

> > > > -

> > >

> > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran

> > > > jhora <jhora% 40.

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> > > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM

> > > >

> jhora re: special lagna clarification given

> > > by

> Sri Narasimharaogaru

> > > >

> > > > Sri Narasimharao

> garu,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste. You have mentioned some

> > exciting

> > > aspects of special lagna and specifically

> mentioned by Ve7. You

> > may

> > > kindly give the information as

> to which book I have to refer to

> > know

> > > these concepts in

> detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your

> > > contribution on

> Astrology. I will be grateful if you would kindly

> > > enlighten me on

> this.

> > > >

> > > > with regards,

> > > >

> S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM

>

>

>

>

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