Utpal Pathak Chart (Planetary Special Lagna Research)

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Namaste Narasimha Garu,

 

> In my judgment, Utpal will make pretty good spiritual progress in

Saturn and Mercury antardasas and there is no need to " wait till "

Sun antardasa.

>

> Utpal, keep your focus and do not be discouraged by the comments

> of learned Jyotishis.

 

I have caught hold of you now. Whether D1,D9,D20 Supports Spiritual

progress or Not, if i don't make any progress, i'll hold you

responsible for that and not Shani, Budha, Guru or Ketu:0)

 

One gentle man told me in a private mail that i am very fortunate

and in safe hands. i knew it since 24th of August.

 

Thank you for your comment on my chart.

 

Warm Regards,

 

Utpal

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr

wrote:

>

> Namaste Utpal and Sanjay,

>

> > In any case you will need to wait till Jupiter dasha Sun

antardasa to know

> > something more about your spiritual path.

>

> Utpal is running Jupiter dasa Saturn antardasa. Saturn is the 9th

lord. The close conjunction of Moon and Saturn in 12th house has the

potential to give a high level of detachment. Now let us look at D-

20 to see more.

>

> In D-20, Saturn is 4th and 5th lord (yogakaraka) and joins the 9th

and 12th lord Mercury in 12th. There is a very nice raja yoga given

by Saturn and Mercury. From dasa lord Jupiter in D-20, antardasa

lord Saturn is 9th and 10th lord and joins exalted 5th lord in 5th.

>

> In my judgment, Utpal will make pretty good spiritual progress in

Saturn and Mercury antardasas and there is no need to " wait till "

Sun antardasa.

>

> Utpal, keep your focus and do not be discouraged by the comments

of learned Jyotishis.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

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>

> sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote:

> >

> > om paramesthi gurave namah

> >

> > Dear Utpal

> >

> > I wonder as to the placement of Venus and Mars in the 2nd house

from your

> > navamsa lagna. Please correct the birth time to tula navamsa

instead or

> > Dhanus navamsha lagna based on life events.

> >

> > In any case you will need to wait till Jupiter dasha Sun

antardasa to know

> > something more about your spiritual path.

> >

> > With Warm Regards

> >

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

> > http://srath.com http://sohamsa.com http://.org

> >

> > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi, 110060, India

> >

> > sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of

> > utpal pathak

> > 14 February 2009 15:30

> > sohamsa

> > Re: Planetary Special Lagna Research

> >

> > correction: Date of initiation is 3.09.2008

> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40> , " utpal

> > pathak " <vedic_pathak@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear JKDa,

> > >

> > > Take my example for 'Ke12'. 'Ke12' in my Chart falls in 12th

House.

> > >

> > > My Chart Data: 14.05.1972, 8.15.05 am, Idar 73e0, 23n50

> > >

> > > I was accepted as a Disciple by My Spiritual Guru, during my

> > > Guru/Shani/Mangal Period. Exact Date is 3.09.2009

> > >

> > > 12 th from Ketu (Anti-Zodiacally) is Mithuna. Guru has Rashi

as

> > well

> > > as Grajha Drashti on Mithuna. Shani sits in Ke12 and Mars

again in

> > > 12th from Ke12 (i.e. Lagna). Mars also becomes my BK as per

Mixed

> > > settings.

> > >

> > >

> > > Take TP of 2008/9.

> > >

> > > Ke12 is in 9th House and 12th from it is Mithuna. Lord is

Budha

> > > which is Lagna Lord as well and sits in 9th house (which also

> > > carries Ke12). Budha is a Hora Lord too.

> > >

> > > on 3rd Sept 09, i was running Budha Tirthi Ashtottari Dasha.

> > >

> > > seems Intresting !

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Utpal

> > >

> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40> ,

> > " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear PVR,

> > > >

> > > > Really interesting research. My Ve7 falls in Virgo. Lagna

lord

> > in

> > > 7H. Using dwisaptapati sama dasa, I got married in Rahu-Jup

dasa.

> > > >

> > > > What are your thoughts of using other planets? Like you have

> > > mentioned 12th from Ke12 for spirituality, 5th from Su5 (GL)

for

> > > power etc.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Jk

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>

> > [sohamsa <sohamsa%

40> ]

> > On

> > > Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

> > > > Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:36 AM

> > > > vedic astrology

> > <vedic astrology%40> ;

> > > <%

40> ;

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> ;

> > > sjcBoston <sjcBoston%40>

> > > > Planetary Special Lagna Research

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > > You have mentioned some exciting aspects of special lagna

and

> > > > > specifically mentioned by Ve7. You may kindly give the

> > > information

> > > > > as to which book I have to refer to know these concepts in

> > > detail

> > > > > I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your contribution on

> > > Astrology.

> > > > > I will be grateful if you would kindly enlighten me on

this.

> > > >

> > > > This is just research. It is not from a classic or a

> > parampara.

> > > So it is not covered by any classic or modern book.

> > > >

> > > > Inspired by Parasara's teachings on special lagnas, I just

> > > generalized it and followed up on the result of my intuition

with

> > > some practical testing. In my limited research, I found these

> > > special planetary lagnas to be interesting.

> > > >

> > > > I can give some examples using Ve7. If this makes no sense

to

> > > you, please ignore the research. If it makes sense to you,

please

> > > feel free to use the knowledge, develop it further and also

spread

> > > it freely.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > Definition of Ve7: Ve7 is a special lagna like hora lagna,

> > ghati

> > > lagna etc. We can perhaps call it " Sukra Dara Lagna " . At the

time

> > > Venus rises (i.e. lagna and Venus are conjunct), Ve7 is at the

> > same

> > > longitude as Venus. It will complete 7 revolutions around the

> > zodiac

> > > and reach the longitude of Venus at the time of next day's

rise of

> > > Venus. It moves at a uniform speed. So it moves by 7x360 deg

in

> > > about 24 hours, i.e. 105 deg every hour. JHora's " special

lagna

> > > research " feature can be used to show it in charts.

> > > >

> > > > If you use Sun instead of Venus and 5 instead of 7 as the

> > speed

> > > factor, you get Ghati Lagna. Ghati lagna has to do with power

and

> > > authority, while Ve7 has to do with marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Use of Ve7: Parasara said that BL, HL, GL etc can be used as

> > > references and houses can be found from them just like lagna.

In

> > my

> > > experience, I found that Ve7 and 7th from it are important for

> > > marriage. Usually, antardasa of marriage (based on nakshatra

dasa)

> > > is related to a planet linking the 7th from Ve7 with lagna in

some

> > > manner. In the annual Tithi Pravesha chart of the year of

marriage

> > > also, you will find a strong link between the 7th from Ve7 and

> > lagna.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > Example 1: Birthdata is 1970 April 4, 5:47:13 pm (IST),

81e12,

> > > 16n15. In the natal rasi chart, Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord

from

> > Ve7

> > > is Jupiter. He and lagna lord Mercury aspect each other.

Saturn-

> > > Jupiter antardasa gave marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Cancer. Lord of

Ve7

> > > is Moon and 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. Both join lagna lord

> > > Mercury in the 9th house of dharma from lagna. In Moon's

annual TA

> > > dasa, the native got married.

> > > >

> > > > Example 2: Birthdata is 1970 October 5, 12:34 pm (IST),

80e21,

> > > 15n49. Ve7 is in Sc. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Venus and he

joins

> > > lagna lord Jupiter. Venus-Venus antardasa as per Chaturaseeti

sama

> > > dasa (10th lord is in 10th and hence use this dasa) gave

marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ge. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He is in samasaptaka from lagna lord Venus.

> > Marriage

> > > happened in Venus-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TP chart.

> > > >

> > > > Example 3: Birthdata is 1973 July 26, 9:45:30 pm (IST),

80e28,

> > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He has

10th

> > > aspect on lagna. Lagna lord Jupiter occupies 7th from Ve7.

Jupiter-

> > > Saturn antardasa gave marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1998-99 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Pi. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Mercury and he joins lagna lord Sun. The 7th lord Rahu

is

> > in

> > > lagna and he aspects the 7th from Ve7. So he too connects the

7th

> > > from Ve7 with lagna. His annual TA dasa gave marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Example 4: Birthdata is 1971 September 12, 8:25 am (IST),

> > 80e23,

> > > 16n13. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th from Ve7 and lagna are both in

Li.

> > Its

> > > lord is Venus. He is with Sun and Mercury and Mars aspects him

by

> > > 8th aspect. Using Sataabdika dasa started from lagna, Mercury-

Mars

> > > antardasa gave marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1992-93 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Le. The 7th house

> > > from Ve7 is aspected by Jupiter and he joins lagna lord Venus.

> > > Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa as per annual TA dasa brought

marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Example 5: Birthdata is 1975 July 13, 4:04 pm (IST), 81e06,

> > > 16n42. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th house is Pi and Rahu in lagna

aspects

> > > it. Rahu-Rahu antardasa brought marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at the 2000-01 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Ar. The 7th

> > lord

> > > from Ve7 is Venus. He is in lagna with lagna lord Mercury.

> > Marriage

> > > happened in Mercury-Venus antardasa as per annual TA chart.

> > > >

> > > > Example 6 (Rajiv Gandhi): Birthdata is 1944 August 20,

7:12:45

> > > am (IST), 72e49, 18n58. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th lord from it is

> > Saturn

> > > and he is aspecting lagna by 3rd aspect. Rahu has 7th aspect

on

> > the

> > > 7th from Ve7 and 2nd aspect on lagna. He too connects them.

Saturn-

> > > Rahu antardasa as per Shashtihayani dasa brought marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1967-68 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Jupiter. He aspects lagna. Jupiter's annual TA dasa

brought

> > > marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Example 7: Birthdata is 1972 June 1, 4:16 am (IST), 81e12,

> > > 16n15. Ve7 is in Cn. The 7th from Ve7 is Cp. Lagna lord Mars

> > aspects

> > > it by 8th aspect. The 7th lord from Ve7 is Saturn. He joins

the

> > > dispositor of lagna lord, Mercury, and Sun also joins them.

She

> > got

> > > married in Mars-Sun antardasa.

> > > >

> > > > Look at 1993-94 annual TP chart. Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th lord

> > from

> > > Ve7 is Jupiter and he is in lagna. The 7th from Ve7 has

exalted

> > > Venus and he aspects lagna. Jupiter-Venus antardasa as per

annual

> > TA

> > > dasa brought marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Example 8 (George Bush): Birthdata is 1946 July 6, 7:30 am

(4

> > > hrs west of GMT), New Haven, CT, USA (72w55'43 " , 41n18'29 " ).

Ve7

> > is

> > > in Pi. The 7th from Ve7 has Jupiter and lagna lord Moon.

> > Dwisaptati

> > > sama dasa applies as 7th lord Saturn is in lagna. As per that

> > dasa,

> > > he got married in Moon-Jupiter antardasa.

> > > >

> > > > In the annual TP chart of 1977-78, Ve7 is in Vi. The 7th

from

> > > Ve7 is aspected by Moon and Rahu, who are in lagna. He got

married

> > > in Moon-Rahu antardasa as per annual TA dasa.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > Ve7 is only one example. Several other planetary special

> > lagnas

> > > based on other planets and other houses can be defined. They

can

> > > also be used. This is an area for research.

> > > >

> > > > For example, find Ke12 by starting at Ketu's longitude when

> > Ketu

> > > rises, progress *anti-zodiacally* at a uniform speed to go

around

> > > the zodiac (in reverse) 12 times in the next 24 hours. That is

how

> > > Ke12 is found. It changes sign in every 10 min. Count the 12th

> > house

> > > anti-zodiacally from Ke12. When dasas activate links between

that

> > > and lagna, important events relating to spiritual detachment

> > happen.

> > > Interestingly, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharshi,

Aurobindo

> > > Ghose and Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati all have lagna in the

> > 12th

> > > house from Ke12 when counted anti-zodiacally. It is a very

> > > interesting coincidence.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > GL defined by Parasara is nothing but Su5 in the special

> > > planetary lagna notation of JHora. Planets linking the 5th

from GL

> > > to lagna can bring political power based on my research.

> > > >

> > > > Let us revisit example 8. The 5th lord from GL is Jupiter.

He

> > > joins lagna lord Jupiter. As per Dwisaptati sama dasa dasa,

> > Jupiter

> > > dasa during April 2000-April 2009 pretty much coincides with

his

> > > presidency (political power). Mercury is the 8th lord from GL

and

> > he

> > > is in lagna. In his antardasa, his second term ended.

> > > >

> > > > Let us see one more example.

> > > >

> > > > Example 9 (Dr Murli Manohar Joshi): Birthdata is 1934

January

> > 5,

> > > 10:17 am (IST), 77e13, 28n40. GL is in Le. The 5th lord from

GL is

> > > Jupiter and he aspects lagna lord by 5th aspect. His dasa

started

> > in

> > > 1997 and he became a central minister in India in 1998. Ketu

is in

> > > 12th from GL and has rasi drishti on lagna (he has no graha

> > drishti

> > > and hence we see rasi drishti only). His antardasa in 2004-

2005

> > > brought loss of political power. Moon antardasa in Jupiter

dasa is

> > > running now. Moon has half aspect on the 5th from GL and

aspects

> > > lagna. He can give political power again.

> > > >

> > > > In the 1998-99 annual TP chart, GL is in Le. The 5th lord

from

> > > GL is Jupiter. He is with lagna lord Mars. He became a central

> > > minister in Jupiter's annual TA dasa.

> > > >

> > > > Example 10 (JFK): Birthdata is 1917 May 29, 4 pm (4 hours

west

> > > of GMT), Brookline, MA, USA (71e7'18 " , 42n19'54 " ). Lagna is in

> > > vargottama and Sataabdika dasa started from lagna applies. He

> > became

> > > a congressman in Jupiter-Jupiter antardasa and president in

> > Jupiter-

> > > Moon antardasa. Jupiter is the 5th lord from GL and aspects

lagna.

> > > Moon is in GL and has half aspect on 5th from GL and lagna

lord.

> > > >

> > > > In the 1960-61 annual TP chart, GL is in Li. The 5th lord

from

> > > GL is Saturn. He is in Sg and aspects Ge lagna and lagna lord

> > > Mercury in Ge. Saturn's annual TA dasa gave him victory in

> > > presidential elections.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > Links between lagna and houses from planetary special lagnas

> > > seem to be important for important events in both natal charts

> > > (using the most appropriate nakshatra dasa) and annual Tithi

> > > Pravesha charts (using Tithi Ashtottari dasa).

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > Narasimha

> > > > -------------------------

> > --

> > > -

> > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself:

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself:

> > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> > > > Spirituality:

> > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3):

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> > > > -------------------------

> > --

> > > -

> > > > -

> > > > Balasubramaniam Ramachandran

> > > > jhora <jhora%40>

> > > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 AM

> > > > jhora re: special lagna clarification given

> > > by Sri Narasimharaogaru

> > > >

> > > > Sri Narasimharao garu,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste. You have mentioned some

> > exciting

> > > aspects of special lagna and specifically mentioned by Ve7.

You

> > may

> > > kindly give the information as to which book I have to refer

to

> > know

> > > these concepts in detail I am 63 years oldman who enjoys your

> > > contribution on Astrology. I will be grateful if you would

kindly

> > > enlighten me on this.

> > > >

> > > > with regards,

> > > > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM

>