Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ Dear HK , Dasa Mahavidya. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- /*Consultations & Pages* http://rohinaa.com rafal/ > > Hi, > what is the remedy for retrograde planets in horoscope as they are > said to give delay in giving results. is it right for donate things > related to the lagn lord planet which is retrograde also(. for > example in sagg lagn jupiter exalted in caner but retrograde. also > benific retrograde are considered good by some. so should one do > remedy for malefic retrogrades only.? > > looking for the views of members > > with regards > H.k > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 H.k, It is not wise to apply that kind of 'linear logic and correlation' when it comes to astrological interpretation of astronomical phenomena! It is like saying that if you are born when planets are in acceleration, things will move faster and when in stambhana (stationary) nothing will move. It is simplistic to assume that the retrograde planet is going backwards at all levels of experience and perception as far as the carnate entity is concerned! As Dr. Charak has indicated, retrograde planets sometimes just represent physical conditions (diseaseas and disorders). Sometimes more. Much has been written on this topic but please do not run with it in a simplistic way! Get used to the concept of wholistic astrology. Your retrograde planet does not stand by itself and even kemadruma moon, when present in achart, is not isolated but simply an opportunity to challenge the nativity into building 'bridges' and I do not mean literally! RR vedic astrology , " hksmail01 " <hksmail01 wrote: > > Hi, > what is the remedy for retrograde planets in horoscope as they are > said to give delay in giving results. is it right for donate things > related to the lagn lord planet which is retrograde also(. for > example in sagg lagn jupiter exalted in caner but retrograde. also > benific retrograde are considered good by some. so should one do > remedy for malefic retrogrades only.? > > looking for the views of members > > with regards > H.k > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Dear Rafal, Thanks for the reply.so worshipping tara in case of jupiter retrograde is the remedy and for sat kali ?. somewhere i read that donating things related to retrograde helps. is that true in case of lagn lord retrograde. ? looking for your views. Hk vedic astrology , Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > Dear HK , > > Dasa Mahavidya. > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > -------------- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa.com > rafal/ > > > > Hi, > > what is the remedy for retrograde planets in horoscope as they are > > said to give delay in giving results. is it right for donate things > > related to the lagn lord planet which is retrograde also(. for > > example in sagg lagn jupiter exalted in caner but retrograde. also > > benific retrograde are considered good by some. so should one do > > remedy for malefic retrogrades only.? > > > > looking for the views of members > > > > with regards > > H.k > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Dear Rohiniranjanji, Thanks for your explanation. As you said things are not so simple. more so since i also read lot of differing and conflicting views on retrograde planets - getting chesta bala, giving effects of previous house, delay in giving results, exlated planted when retrograde acting as if debiliated, jupiter retrograde affecting growth hormones in body and more. but since definetly things are not what they appear to be as opposed to case of forward moving planets, i was looking for remdedy for the same. someone suggested donating things related to the retrograde planet helps. or if anything else is to be done I am looking for suggestions on the same. with regards HK vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > H.k, > > It is not wise to apply that kind of 'linear logic and correlation' > when it comes to astrological interpretation of astronomical phenomena! > > It is like saying that if you are born when planets are in > acceleration, things will move faster and when in stambhana > (stationary) nothing will move. > > It is simplistic to assume that the retrograde planet is going > backwards at all levels of experience and perception as far as the > carnate entity is concerned! > > As Dr. Charak has indicated, retrograde planets sometimes just > represent physical conditions (diseaseas and disorders). Sometimes more. > > Much has been written on this topic but please do not run with it in a > simplistic way! > > Get used to the concept of wholistic astrology. Your retrograde planet > does not stand by itself and even kemadruma moon, when present in > achart, is not isolated but simply an opportunity to challenge the > nativity into building 'bridges' and I do not mean literally! > > RR > > vedic astrology , " hksmail01 " <hksmail01@> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > what is the remedy for retrograde planets in horoscope as they are > > said to give delay in giving results. is it right for donate things > > related to the lagn lord planet which is retrograde also(. for > > example in sagg lagn jupiter exalted in caner but retrograde. also > > benific retrograde are considered good by some. so should one do > > remedy for malefic retrogrades only.? > > > > looking for the views of members > > > > with regards > > H.k > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 --- On Thu, 26/2/09, hksmail01 <hksmail01 wrote: hksmail01 <hksmail01 [vedic astrology] Re: remedy for retrograde planets vedic astrology Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 12:07 AM Dear Rafal, Thanks for the reply.so worshipping tara in case of jupiter retrograde is the remedy and for sat kali ?. somewhere i read that donating things related to retrograde helps. is that true in case of lagn lord retrograde. ? looking for your views. Hk vedic astrology, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > Dear HK , > > Dasa Mahavidya. > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > ------------ -- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa. com > rafal/ > > > > Hi, > > what is the remedy for retrograde planets in horoscope as they are > > said to give delay in giving results. is it right for donate things > > related to the lagn lord planet which is retrograde also(. for > > example in sagg lagn jupiter exalted in caner but retrograde. also > > benific retrograde are considered good by some. so should one do > > remedy for malefic retrogrades only.? > > > > looking for the views of members > > > > with regards > > H.k > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ Dear HK , Yes, that is the hint from tradition. But not always the vakri grahas are so bad as people used to think. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- /*Consultations & Pages* http://rohinaa.com rafal/ > > > > --- On Thu, 26/2/09, hksmail01 <hksmail01 > <hksmail01%40>> wrote: > > hksmail01 <hksmail01 <hksmail01%40>> > [vedic astrology] Re: remedy for retrograde planets > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40> > Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 12:07 AM > > Dear Rafal, > > Thanks for the reply.so worshipping tara in case of jupiter > retrograde is the remedy and for sat kali ?. somewhere i read that > donating things related to retrograde helps. is that true in case of > lagn lord retrograde. ? > looking for your views. > > Hk > > vedic astrology, Rafał Gendarz > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > Dear HK , > > > > Dasa Mahavidya. > > > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > ------------ -- > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > http://rohinaa. com > > rafal/ > > > > > > Hi, > > > what is the remedy for retrograde planets in horoscope as they are > > > said to give delay in giving results. is it right for donate > things > > > related to the lagn lord planet which is retrograde also(. for > > > example in sagg lagn jupiter exalted in caner but retrograde. also > > > benific retrograde are considered good by some. so should one do > > > remedy for malefic retrogrades only.? > > > > > > looking for the views of members > > > > > > with regards > > > H.k > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear H.K., I would like to know from you, what is the meaning of " retrogade planets " /retrogression? What is the concept & its explanation?Why does it occur?? Thank you, . vedic astrology , " hksmail01 " <hksmail01 wrote: > > Hi, > what is the remedy for retrograde planets in horoscope as they are > said to give delay in giving results. is it right for donate things > related to the lagn lord planet which is retrograde also(. for > example in sagg lagn jupiter exalted in caner but retrograde. also > benific retrograde are considered good by some. so should one do > remedy for malefic retrogrades only.? > > looking for the views of members > > with regards > H.k > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Dear rafalji, yes i agree and thanks for the suggestion. i have my own apprehensions on dasamahavidya sadhana since that requires careful guidance under some guru. i was looking for something simple as a remedy which a common man can do. interestingly AR rahman who recently won oscar also has jupiter exalted in cancer and retrograde in his native chart if the dob given in newspaper is correct 6 jan 1967. though he had a big influence of Sufi pir in his life which he himself acknowledges. once again thanks for your views and response. with regards HK vedic astrology , Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > Dear HK , > > Yes, that is the hint from tradition. But not always the vakri grahas > are so bad as people used to think. > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > -------------- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa.com > rafal/ > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 26/2/09, hksmail01 <hksmail01 > > <hksmail01%40>> wrote: > > > > hksmail01 <hksmail01 <hksmail01%40>> > > [vedic astrology] Re: remedy for retrograde planets > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40> > > Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 12:07 AM > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Thanks for the reply.so worshipping tara in case of jupiter > > retrograde is the remedy and for sat kali ?. somewhere i read that > > donating things related to retrograde helps. is that true in case of > > lagn lord retrograde. ? > > looking for your views. > > > > Hk > > > > vedic astrology, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > > Dear HK , > > > > > > Dasa Mahavidya. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > ------------ -- > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > http://rohinaa. com > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > what is the remedy for retrograde planets in horoscope as they are > > > > said to give delay in giving results. is it right for donate > > things > > > > related to the lagn lord planet which is retrograde also(. for > > > > example in sagg lagn jupiter exalted in caner but retrograde. also > > > > benific retrograde are considered good by some. so should one do > > > > remedy for malefic retrogrades only.? > > > > > > > > looking for the views of members > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > H.k > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 STOP SENDING EMAIL --- On Thu, 26/2/09, hksmail01 <hksmail01 wrote: hksmail01 <hksmail01 [vedic astrology] Re: remedy for retrograde planets vedic astrology Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 9:07 PM Dear rafalji, yes i agree and thanks for the suggestion. i have my own apprehensions on dasamahavidya sadhana since that requires careful guidance under some guru. i was looking for something simple as a remedy which a common man can do. interestingly AR rahman who recently won oscar also has jupiter exalted in cancer and retrograde in his native chart if the dob given in newspaper is correct 6 jan 1967. though he had a big influence of Sufi pir in his life which he himself acknowledges. once again thanks for your views and response. with regards HK vedic astrology, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > Dear HK , > > Yes, that is the hint from tradition. But not always the vakri grahas > are so bad as people used to think. > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > ------------ -- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa. com > rafal/ > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 26/2/09, hksmail01 <hksmail01 > > <hksmail01% 40> > wrote: > > > > hksmail01 <hksmail01 <hksmail01% 40> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: remedy for retrograde planets > > vedic astrology > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com> > > Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 12:07 AM > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Thanks for the reply.so worshipping tara in case of jupiter > > retrograde is the remedy and for sat kali ?. somewhere i read that > > donating things related to retrograde helps. is that true in case of > > lagn lord retrograde. ? > > looking for your views. > > > > Hk > > > > vedic astrology, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > > Dear HK , > > > > > > Dasa Mahavidya. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > ------------ -- > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > http://rohinaa. com > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > what is the remedy for retrograde planets in horoscope as they are > > > > said to give delay in giving results. is it right for donate > > things > > > > related to the lagn lord planet which is retrograde also(. for > > > > example in sagg lagn jupiter exalted in caner but retrograde. also > > > > benific retrograde are considered good by some. so should one do > > > > remedy for malefic retrogrades only.? > > > > > > > > looking for the views of members > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > H.k > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Mr.Rajjesh I am surprised to receive two emails on the Subject from you to STOP SENDING EMAIL I never sent you any email on the subject. This sounds rude. My email address is not in vedic astrology & I never sent the emails below. --\ --\ -------------------- --- On Thu, 26/2/09, hksmail01 <hksmail01 wrote: hksmail01 <hksmail01 [vedic astrology] Re: remedy for retrograde planets vedic astrology Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 9:07 PM Dear rafalji, yes i agree and thanks for the suggestion. i have my own apprehensions on dasamahavidya sadhana since that requires careful guidance under some guru. i was looking for something simple as a remedy which a common man can do. interestingly AR rahman who recently won oscar also has jupiter exalted in cancer and retrograde in his native chart if the dob given in newspaper is correct 6 jan 1967. though he had a big influence of Sufi pir in his life which he himself acknowledges. once again thanks for your views and response. with regards HK vedic astrology, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > Dear HK , > > Yes, that is the hint from tradition. But not always the vakri grahas > are so bad as people used to think. > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > ------------ -- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa. com > rafal/ > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 26/2/09, hksmail01 <hksmail01 > > <hksmail01% 40> > wrote: > > > > hksmail01 <hksmail01 <hksmail01% 40> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: remedy for retrograde planets > > vedic astrology > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com> > > Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 12:07 AM > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Thanks for the reply.so worshipping tara in case of jupiter > > retrograde is the remedy and for sat kali ?. somewhere i read that > > donating things related to retrograde helps. is that true in case of > > lagn lord retrograde. ? > > looking for your views. > > > > Hk > > > > vedic astrology, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > > Dear HK , > > > > > > Dasa Mahavidya. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > ------------ -- > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > http://rohinaa. com > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > what is the remedy for retrograde planets in horoscope as they are > > > > said to give delay in giving results. is it right for donate > > things > > > > related to the lagn lord planet which is retrograde also(. for > > > > example in sagg lagn jupiter exalted in caner but retrograde. also > > > > benific retrograde are considered good by some. so should one do > > > > remedy for malefic retrogrades only.? > > > > > > > > looking for the views of members > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > H.k > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Mr. Goel, I thought all planets represented past karma, and not just the retrograde ones. Isn't that how the entire astrological framework works? How can one demonstrate that only retrograde planets represent past karmas in contrast with the direct ones or the stationary ones, etc? And what do those represent? Free-will? Rohiniranjan vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > Retrograde planets indicate our past Karmas related to its karakattwa and house lordship of such planets. > As a second step let us check when this Planet becomes direct and get the same longitude in the native's chart.Count the days and hours. On considering one day equivalent to one year , the effect of past deeds will be over on completion of age equivalent to these years. > The effect of past Karma had to be endured , and there is no remedy to ward them of. > Then what should be done: > 1. Do worship of Ista Devta , who gives strength to face adversities and shows the right path. > 2. Other side REMEDIES , LlIKE UPASANA of Das Vidya's gives strength to act in right direction. > Suppose one is unhappy with his preset marriage ,and wish to get rid of it , the remedies may help. But if the native will not renounce bad KARMA such AS Kama ,kRODHA OR LOBHA from ones life , he/or she may ultimately fall and will be victim of deeper malice. > > Particularly ,upasna of Dasa vidyas is a double edged sword , it will destroy the native first , > if the native does not give attention to good deeds and right conduct. > Without the worship of Ista devta nothing works.Read chapter 7 of Gita carefully. > > A exalted retrograde planet is a big liability and imposes big responsibility on the native, > the best course is to meet the challenge and rise to the situation, > A exalted malefic planet demands supreme sacrifice , prepare oneself with the upasana > to face it. Your Ista and GODDESS WILL GIVE YOU STRENGTH TO ENDURE IT , WHY THEY WILL > WARD OFF , THEY ARE NOT AGAINST OTHER PERSONS AGAINST WHOM NATIVE DID UNJUST ACTS > IN THE PAST. > AS SUCH worship IS AN EXERCISE AND POWERFUL TOOL FOR SELF IMPROVEMENT. IF IT IS NOT COMING OR HAPPENING , THEN EVERY THING WILL ULTIMATELY BE LOST. > regards,G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > Get an email ID as yourname or yourname Click here http://in.promos./address > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Dear Friends, Retrograde planets indicate our past Karmas related to its karakattwa and house lordship of such planets. As a second step let us check when this Planet becomes direct and get the same longitude in the native's chart.Count the days and hours. On considering one day equivalent to one year , the effect of past deeds will be over on completion of age equivalent to these years. The effect of past Karma had to be endured , and there is no remedy to ward them of. Then what should be done: 1. Do worship of Ista Devta , who gives strength to face adversities and shows the right path. 2. Other side REMEDIES , LlIKE UPASANA of Das Vidya's gives strength to act in right direction. Suppose one is unhappy with his preset marriage ,and wish to get rid of it , the remedies may help. But if the native will not renounce bad KARMA such AS Kama ,kRODHA OR LOBHA from ones life , he/or she may ultimately fall and will be victim of deeper malice. Particularly ,upasna of Dasa vidyas is a double edged sword , it will destroy the native first , if the native does not give attention to good deeds and right conduct. Without the worship of Ista devta nothing works.Read chapter 7 of Gita carefully. A exalted retrograde planet is a big liability and imposes big responsibility on the native, the best course is to meet the challenge and rise to the situation, A exalted malefic planet demands supreme sacrifice , prepare oneself with the upasana to face it. Your Ista and GODDESS WILL GIVE YOU STRENGTH TO ENDURE IT , WHY THEY WILL WARD OFF , THEY ARE NOT AGAINST OTHER PERSONS AGAINST WHOM NATIVE DID UNJUST ACTS IN THE PAST. AS SUCH worship IS AN EXERCISE AND POWERFUL TOOL FOR SELF IMPROVEMENT. IF IT IS NOT COMING OR HAPPENING , THEN EVERY THING WILL ULTIMATELY BE LOST. regards,G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA Get an email ID as yourname or yourname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Dear Goel ji, I am a newbie but trying to look at my own chart for some learnings. Learning about past life is always quite interesting. I came across some thing related to purva janma karma and present life experiences - to be read from D60: 9H rasi - purva janma rasi 6, 8 and 12 aspects and lords Mandi + Gulika house lords, Gulika star lord - papa associated with purva janma experienced as negative feelings This more or less covered all the planets in my chart - Sun, Merc, Moon, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn. But Gulika in my D60 is in Visakha nakshatra (10H) ruled by Jupiter and I have Jupiter retrograde in 10H in Taurus in Rasi chart. Is this just coincidence or is this how we have to read purva janma from our charts? What do I infer from this retrograde placement? I am also curious how to check when the retrograde planet negative affects will be removed from our lives. I am currently running Rahu dasa which is terrible and looking forward to get into Jupiter dasa. I was hoping that will be much better. Details: DoB-02 Oct 1976, Time - 03.02 AM Place - 81E32 16N32. Any help is grately appreciated. - Satya ________________________________ Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 vedic astrology Cc: AstroStudents_Vedic ; Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest ; Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar; sohamsa <sohamsa >; ; prince <A_Foresight_Prince_of_India_Available > Friday, February 27, 2009 11:56:47 PM [vedic astrology] Remedy for Retrograde planets Dear Friends, Retrograde planets indicate our past Karmas related to its karakattwa and house lordship of such planets. As a second step let us check when this Planet becomes direct and get the same longitude in the native's chart.Count the days and hours.. On considering one day equivalent to one year , the effect of past deeds will be over on completion of age equivalent to these years. The effect of past Karma had to be endured , and there is no remedy to ward them of. Then what should be done: 1. Do worship of Ista Devta , who gives strength to face adversities and shows the right path. 2. Other side REMEDIES , LlIKE UPASANA of Das Vidya's gives strength to act in right direction. Suppose one is unhappy with his preset marriage ,and wish to get rid of it , the remedies may help. But if the native will not renounce bad KARMA such AS Kama ,kRODHA OR LOBHA from ones life , he/or she may ultimately fall and will be victim of deeper malice. Particularly ,upasna of Dasa vidyas is a double edged sword , it will destroy the native first , if the native does not give attention to good deeds and right conduct. Without the worship of Ista devta nothing works.Read chapter 7 of Gita carefully. A exalted retrograde planet is a big liability and imposes big responsibility on the native, the best course is to meet the challenge and rise to the situation, A exalted malefic planet demands supreme sacrifice , prepare oneself with the upasana to face it. Your Ista and GODDESS WILL GIVE YOU STRENGTH TO ENDURE IT , WHY THEY WILL WARD OFF , THEY ARE NOT AGAINST OTHER PERSONS AGAINST WHOM NATIVE DID UNJUST ACTS IN THE PAST. AS SUCH worship IS AN EXERCISE AND POWERFUL TOOL FOR SELF IMPROVEMENT. IF IT IS NOT COMING OR HAPPENING , THEN EVERY THING WILL ULTIMATELY BE LOST. regards,G.K. GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA Get an email ID as yourname (AT) ymail (DOT) com or yourname@rocketmail .com. Click here http://in.promos. / address Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Dear Goelji, Your mail I understand is written with concern and compassion which i admire. I agree with your thoughts on Dasamahavidya sadhana and the need to do good karma as our past karma is bound to have effect on our present and future. You have explained in a nice way the greatest remedy of all: Prayer to god. About the rule which you stated i checked my horoscope and it is approx 90 days that jupiter will resume its forward motion with same degrees in my chart, since it is a slow moving planet. That makes it 90 years.. well almost full life. It is my lagn lord so it is in most vital position in horoscope. ( sagg. lagn - jupiter exalted in cancer and retrograde) After some thought and consideration, I have a question. Both slow moving planets Sat and Jup go retrograde a few times in a year. So effect of retrograde planets must be a common occurence in many natives chart. So all have done great bad deeds in past life which they have to suffer for ?. Also if it is such a bad thing why it is not mentioned in BPHS when the author discusses remedies in later chapters like amavasya birth, sakranti and so on. I think if the results of retrograde planets are such they should be described as a curse or something like that. To rohiniranjanji, I incidentally stumbled upon your retrograde planet pdf in the files section. It is interesting to note the percentage of retrograde planets with the databank you have. unfortunately i dont have such astro databank. otherwise i would have surely searched for few things. 1. lagn lord retrograde - since it is the most vital house lord and retrograde effect wil be very evident if any. 2. slow moving planets retrogression. just my thoughts. I think we need to cross check the rules across many charts whose birth data and life are well known. with regards, HK vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > Retrograde planets indicate our past Karmas related to its karakattwa and house lordship of such planets. > As a second step let us check when this Planet becomes direct and get the same longitude in the native's chart.Count the days and hours. On considering one day equivalent to one year , the effect of past deeds will be over on completion of age equivalent to these years. > The effect of past Karma had to be endured , and there is no remedy to ward them of. > Then what should be done: > 1. Do worship of Ista Devta , who gives strength to face adversities and shows the right path. > 2. Other side REMEDIES , LlIKE UPASANA of Das Vidya's gives strength to act in right direction. > Suppose one is unhappy with his preset marriage ,and wish to get rid of it , the remedies may help. But if the native will not renounce bad KARMA such AS Kama ,kRODHA OR LOBHA from ones life , he/or she may ultimately fall and will be victim of deeper malice. > > Particularly ,upasna of Dasa vidyas is a double edged sword , it will destroy the native first , > if the native does not give attention to good deeds and right conduct. > Without the worship of Ista devta nothing works.Read chapter 7 of Gita carefully. > > A exalted retrograde planet is a big liability and imposes big responsibility on the native, > the best course is to meet the challenge and rise to the situation, > A exalted malefic planet demands supreme sacrifice , prepare oneself with the upasana > to face it. Your Ista and GODDESS WILL GIVE YOU STRENGTH TO ENDURE IT , WHY THEY WILL > WARD OFF , THEY ARE NOT AGAINST OTHER PERSONS AGAINST WHOM NATIVE DID UNJUST ACTS > IN THE PAST. > AS SUCH worship IS AN EXERCISE AND POWERFUL TOOL FOR SELF IMPROVEMENT. IF IT IS NOT COMING OR HAPPENING , THEN EVERY THING WILL ULTIMATELY BE LOST. > regards,G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > Get an email ID as yourname or yourname Click here http://in.promos./address > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Dear HK ji, The 1degree = 1 year progression is a very old and popular western tropical timing tool and as rightly observed by you would be very dependent on the phase of retrograde journey. That aside, it makes very little sense to treat rapidly moving mercury and mandagati- saturn by the same yardstick of the 1degree = 1 year progression. Please understand that progression can be a useful technique, for instance as applied in vimshottari dasha which is simply the progression of the moon at the rate of 120degrees in 120 years if you think about it for a minute. However in jyotish instead of 1degree = 1 year, variable rates have been used yielding the 13d20minute area ruled by sun being progressed in 6 years while the same distance of 13d20m represented by venus being travelled by progressed natal moon in 20 years! I will check out the parameters you suggested and report back. Thanks RR vedic astrology , " hksmail01 " <hksmail01 wrote: > > Dear Goelji, > > Your mail I understand is written with concern and compassion which i > admire. I agree with your thoughts on Dasamahavidya sadhana and the > need to do good karma as our past karma is bound to have effect on > our present and future. You have explained in a nice way the greatest > remedy of all: Prayer to god. > > About the rule which you stated i checked my horoscope and it is > approx 90 days that jupiter will resume its forward motion with same > degrees in my chart, since it is a slow moving planet. > That makes it 90 years.. well almost full life. It is my lagn lord so > it is in most vital position in horoscope. ( sagg. lagn - jupiter > exalted in cancer and retrograde) > > After some thought and consideration, I have a question. Both slow > moving planets Sat and Jup go retrograde a few times in a year. So > effect of retrograde planets must be a common occurence in many > natives chart. So all have done great bad deeds in past life which > they have to suffer for ?. Also if it is such a bad thing why it is > not mentioned in BPHS when the author discusses remedies in later > chapters like amavasya birth, sakranti and so on. > > I think if the results of retrograde planets are such they should be > described as a curse or something like that. > > > To rohiniranjanji, > > I incidentally stumbled upon your retrograde planet pdf in the files > section. It is interesting to note the percentage of retrograde > planets with the databank you have. unfortunately i dont have such > astro databank. otherwise i would have surely searched for few things. > 1. lagn lord retrograde - since it is the most vital house lord and > retrograde effect wil be very evident if any. > 2. slow moving planets retrogression. > > just my thoughts. I think we need to cross check the rules across > many charts whose birth data and life are well known. > > with regards, > HK > > vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > Retrograde planets indicate our past Karmas related to its > karakattwa and house lordship of such planets. > > As a second step let us check when this Planet becomes direct and > get the same longitude in the native's chart.Count the days and > hours. On considering one day equivalent to one year , the effect of > past deeds will be over on completion of age equivalent to these > years. > > The effect of past Karma had to be endured , and there is no remedy > to ward them of. > > Then what should be done: > > 1. Do worship of Ista Devta , who gives strength to face > adversities and shows the right path. > > 2. Other side REMEDIES , LlIKE UPASANA of Das Vidya's gives > strength to act in right direction. > > Suppose one is unhappy with his preset marriage ,and wish to > get rid of it , the remedies may help. But if the native will > not renounce bad KARMA such AS Kama ,kRODHA OR LOBHA from ones > life , he/or she may ultimately fall and will be victim of deeper > malice. > > > > Particularly ,upasna of Dasa vidyas is a double edged sword , it > will destroy the native first , > > if the native does not give attention to good deeds and right > conduct. > > Without the worship of Ista devta nothing works.Read chapter 7 of > Gita carefully. > > > > A exalted retrograde planet is a big liability and imposes big > responsibility on the native, > > the best course is to meet the challenge and rise to the situation, > > A exalted malefic planet demands supreme sacrifice , prepare > oneself with the upasana > > to face it. Your Ista and GODDESS WILL GIVE YOU STRENGTH TO ENDURE > IT , WHY THEY WILL > > WARD OFF , THEY ARE NOT AGAINST OTHER PERSONS AGAINST WHOM NATIVE > DID UNJUST ACTS > > IN THE PAST. > > AS SUCH worship IS AN EXERCISE AND POWERFUL TOOL FOR SELF > IMPROVEMENT. IF IT IS NOT COMING OR HAPPENING , THEN EVERY THING WILL > ULTIMATELY BE LOST. > > regards,G.K.GOEL > > Ph: 09350311433 > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > INDIA > > > > > > Get an email ID as yourname@ or yourname@ Click here > http://in.promos./address > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Dear Gopal Goel,An interesting mail as retrograde has always been a 'fluctuating' issue accompanied with endless interpretations and plenty of " guess work " .Respected as you are (by me and many others, I'm sure) and with your many years of Jyotish experience and wisdom maybe you can shade some light on the following two questions which is directly related to your mail: 1. A large percentage of charts have retrograde planets where retrogration started a short time before their birth. Taking as an example Jupiter and Saturn, the effect of this retrogration will exist throughout the entire life of such natives. These planets motion will become forward around the age of 100 plus.What about all the millions of people who do not know or follow the concepts of Ista Deveta (or belonging to other religions) ? What happened to their past karma in this connection ? Do they need to " suffer " all life long as " ... And there is no remedy to ward them of " ? 2. On the other hand, millions of people/charts have no retrograde planets at all. What about their past karma in this context ?Thanks in advance Best regards /Jay Weiss2009/2/28 Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 Dear Friends, Retrograde planets indicate our past Karmas related to its karakattwa and house lordship of such planets. As a second step let us check when this Planet becomes direct and get the same longitude in the native's chart.Count the days and hours. On considering one day equivalent to one year , the effect of past deeds will be over on completion of age equivalent to these years. The effect of past Karma had to be endured , and there is no remedy to ward them of. Then what should be done: 1. Do worship of Ista Devta , who gives strength to face adversities and shows the right path. 2. Other side REMEDIES , LlIKE UPASANA of Das Vidya's gives strength to act in right direction. Suppose one is unhappy with his preset marriage ,and wish to get rid of it , the remedies may help. But if the native will not renounce bad KARMA such AS Kama ,kRODHA OR LOBHA from ones life , he/or she may ultimately fall and will be victim of deeper malice. Particularly ,upasna of Dasa vidyas is a double edged sword , it will destroy the native first , if the native does not give attention to good deeds and right conduct. Without the worship of Ista devta nothing works.Read chapter 7 of Gita carefully. A exalted retrograde planet is a big liability and imposes big responsibility on the native, the best course is to meet the challenge and rise to the situation, A exalted malefic planet demands supreme sacrifice , prepare oneself with the upasana to face it. Your Ista and GODDESS WILL GIVE YOU STRENGTH TO ENDURE IT , WHY THEY WILL WARD OFF , THEY ARE NOT AGAINST OTHER PERSONS AGAINST WHOM NATIVE DID UNJUST ACTS IN THE PAST. AS SUCH worship IS AN EXERCISE AND POWERFUL TOOL FOR SELF IMPROVEMENT. IF IT IS NOT COMING OR HAPPENING , THEN EVERY THING WILL ULTIMATELY BE LOST. regards,G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA Get an email ID as yourname or yourname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Jaya JagannathaDear Jay,NamasteFor those of you who have the luck to know this, it also includes me, since my Saturn is retrograde and will take me way past into my next life to correct this problem )Mahadeva's recommendation to Sri Narada who enquired, regarding the same dosha:1. That the Sani Stotra be recited Padma Purana Uttara Khanda Chapter 33.28-38, 2. then the mantra as recommended in the same purana include BPHS with 23,000 repetitions. 3. After which, gifts of iron, gold and a blue sapphire should be given. ref PP Srsti Khanda Chapter 82.22love,Sweep/s Next article in relation to gemstones, no less.On 28 Feb 2009, at 16:48, Jay Weiss wrote:Dear Gopal Goel,An interesting mail as retrograde has always been a 'fluctuating' issue accompanied with endless interpretations and plenty of "guess work".Respected as you are (by me and many others, I'm sure) and with your many years of Jyotish experience and wisdom maybe you can shade some light on the following two questions which is directly related to your mail:1. A large percentage of charts have retrograde planets where retrogration started a short time before their birth. Taking as an example Jupiter and Saturn, the effect of this retrogration will exist throughout the entire life of such natives. These planets motion will become forward around the age of 100 plus.What about all the millions of people who do not know or follow the concepts of Ista Deveta (or belonging to other religions) ? What happened to their past karma in this connection ? Do they need to "suffer" all life long as "... And there is no remedy to ward them of" ?2. On the other hand, millions of people/charts have no retrograde planets at all. What about their past karma in this context ?Thanks in advance Best regards/Jay Weiss2009/2/28 Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937Dear Friends,Retrograde planets indicate our past Karmas related to its karakattwa and house lordship of such planets. As a second step let us check when this Planet becomes direct and get the same longitude in the native's chart.Count the days and hours. On considering one day equivalent to one year , the effect of past deeds will be over on completion of age equivalent to these years.The effect of past Karma had to be endured , and there is no remedy to ward them of.Then what should be done:1. Do worship of Ista Devta , who gives strength to face adversities and shows the right path.2. Other side REMEDIES , LlIKE UPASANA of Das Vidya's gives strength to act in right direction. Suppose one is unhappy with his preset marriage ,and wish to get rid of it , the remedies may help. But if the native will not renounce bad KARMA such AS Kama ,kRODHA OR LOBHA from ones life , he/or she may ultimately fall and will be victim of deeper malice. Particularly ,upasna of Dasa vidyas is a double edged sword , it will destroy the native first ,if the native does not give attention to good deeds and right conduct.Without the worship of Ista devta nothing works.Read chapter 7 of Gita carefully. A exalted retrograde planet is a big liability and imposes big responsibility on the native,the best course is to meet the challenge and rise to the situation,A exalted malefic planet demands supreme sacrifice , prepare oneself with the upasanato face it. Your Ista and GODDESS WILL GIVE YOU STRENGTH TO ENDURE IT , WHY THEY WILLWARD OFF , THEY ARE NOT AGAINST OTHER PERSONS AGAINST WHOM NATIVE DID UNJUST ACTSIN THE PAST.AS SUCH worship IS AN EXERCISE AND POWERFUL TOOL FOR SELF IMPROVEMENT. IF IT IS NOT COMING OR HAPPENING , THEN EVERY THING WILL ULTIMATELY BE LOST.regards,G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIAGet an email ID as yourname or yourname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Jay,There are also many examples of solid interpretive values of vakra grahas.For example:If a grahas involved in a curse are vakra then the curse is much more difficult to alleviate.A uccha/neecha grahas mode is considerably altered by being vakra.Vakra grahas are considerably stronger (atma bala), having great desire, and can dominate the direction of the person over and above other prominent indications in the chart.Also, the concept of Ishta Devata is not confined to a particular religion like Hinduism etc. I have seen many charts of people demonstrating the effects of the 12th from Karakamsha without ever hearing the word Ishta Devata, but invariably they have a different word with a similar meaning.Lastly, show me a chart without a vakra graha. Or are you saying you use true nodes?Warm regards,MichalJay Weiss <weissjaysohamsa Sent: Sunday, 1 March, 2009 3:48:21 AMRe: Remedy for Retrograde planets Dear Gopal Goel,An interesting mail as retrograde has always been a 'fluctuating' issue accompanied with endless interpretations and plenty of "guess work".Respected as you are (by me and many others, I'm sure) and with your many years of Jyotish experience and wisdom maybe you can shade some light on the following two questions which is directly related to your mail: 1. A large percentage of charts have retrograde planets where retrogration started a short time before their birth. Taking as an example Jupiter and Saturn, the effect of this retrogration will exist throughout the entire life of such natives. These planets motion will become forward around the age of 100 plus.What about all the millions of people who do not know or follow the concepts of Ista Deveta (or belonging to other religions) ? What happened to their past karma in this connection ? Do they need to "suffer" all life long as "... And there is no remedy to ward them of" ? 2. On the other hand, millions of people/charts have no retrograde planets at all. What about their past karma in this context ?Thanks in advance Best regards /Jay Weiss2009/2/28 Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Dear Friends, Retrograde planets indicate our past Karmas related to its karakattwa and house lordship of such planets. As a second step let us check when this Planet becomes direct and get the same longitude in the native's chart.Count the days and hours. On considering one day equivalent to one year , the effect of past deeds will be over on completion of age equivalent to these years. The effect of past Karma had to be endured , and there is no remedy to ward them of. Then what should be done: 1. Do worship of Ista Devta , who gives strength to face adversities and shows the right path. 2. Other side REMEDIES , LlIKE UPASANA of Das Vidya's gives strength to act in right direction. Suppose one is unhappy with his preset marriage ,and wish to get rid of it , the remedies may help. But if the native will not renounce bad KARMA such AS Kama ,kRODHA OR LOBHA from ones life , he/or she may ultimately fall and will be victim of deeper malice. Particularly ,upasna of Dasa vidyas is a double edged sword , it will destroy the native first , if the native does not give attention to good deeds and right conduct. Without the worship of Ista devta nothing works.Read chapter 7 of Gita carefully. A exalted retrograde planet is a big liability and imposes big responsibility on the native, the best course is to meet the challenge and rise to the situation, A exalted malefic planet demands supreme sacrifice , prepare oneself with the upasana to face it. Your Ista and GODDESS WILL GIVE YOU STRENGTH TO ENDURE IT , WHY THEY WILL WARD OFF , THEY ARE NOT AGAINST OTHER PERSONS AGAINST WHOM NATIVE DID UNJUST ACTS IN THE PAST. AS SUCH worship IS AN EXERCISE AND POWERFUL TOOL FOR SELF IMPROVEMENT. IF IT IS NOT COMING OR HAPPENING , THEN EVERY THING WILL ULTIMATELY BE LOST. regards,G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA Get an email ID as yourname (AT) ymail (DOT) com or yourname@rocketmail .com. Get the world's best email - Xtra Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Dear Rohiniranjanji, nice explanation and thanks for giving your perspective. I will await your findings. Thanks with regards, HK vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear HK ji, > > The 1degree = 1 year progression is a very old and popular western > tropical timing tool and as rightly observed by you would be very > dependent on the phase of retrograde journey. That aside, it makes > very little sense to treat rapidly moving mercury and mandagati- > saturn by the same yardstick of the 1degree = 1 year progression. > Please understand that progression can be a useful technique, for > instance as applied in vimshottari dasha which is simply the > progression of the moon at the rate of 120degrees in 120 years if you > think about it for a minute. However in jyotish instead of 1degree = > 1 year, variable rates have been used yielding the 13d20minute area > ruled by sun being progressed in 6 years while the same distance of > 13d20m represented by venus being travelled by progressed natal moon > in 20 years! > > I will check out the parameters you suggested and report back. > > Thanks > > RR > > vedic astrology , " hksmail01 " <hksmail01@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Goelji, > > > > Your mail I understand is written with concern and compassion which > i > > admire. I agree with your thoughts on Dasamahavidya sadhana and the > > need to do good karma as our past karma is bound to have effect on > > our present and future. You have explained in a nice way the > greatest > > remedy of all: Prayer to god. > > > > About the rule which you stated i checked my horoscope and it is > > approx 90 days that jupiter will resume its forward motion with > same > > degrees in my chart, since it is a slow moving planet. > > That makes it 90 years.. well almost full life. It is my lagn lord > so > > it is in most vital position in horoscope. ( sagg. lagn - jupiter > > exalted in cancer and retrograde) > > > > After some thought and consideration, I have a question. Both slow > > moving planets Sat and Jup go retrograde a few times in a year. So > > effect of retrograde planets must be a common occurence in many > > natives chart. So all have done great bad deeds in past life which > > they have to suffer for ?. Also if it is such a bad thing why it is > > not mentioned in BPHS when the author discusses remedies in later > > chapters like amavasya birth, sakranti and so on. > > > > I think if the results of retrograde planets are such they should > be > > described as a curse or something like that. > > > > > > To rohiniranjanji, > > > > I incidentally stumbled upon your retrograde planet pdf in the > files > > section. It is interesting to note the percentage of retrograde > > planets with the databank you have. unfortunately i dont have such > > astro databank. otherwise i would have surely searched for few > things. > > 1. lagn lord retrograde - since it is the most vital house lord and > > retrograde effect wil be very evident if any. > > 2. slow moving planets retrogression. > > > > just my thoughts. I think we need to cross check the rules across > > many charts whose birth data and life are well known. > > > > with regards, > > HK > > > > vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > Retrograde planets indicate our past Karmas related to its > > karakattwa and house lordship of such planets. > > > As a second step let us check when this Planet becomes direct > and > > get the same longitude in the native's chart.Count the days and > > hours. On considering one day equivalent to one year , the effect > of > > past deeds will be over on completion of age equivalent to these > > years. > > > The effect of past Karma had to be endured , and there is no > remedy > > to ward them of. > > > Then what should be done: > > > 1. Do worship of Ista Devta , who gives strength to face > > adversities and shows the right path. > > > 2. Other side REMEDIES , LlIKE UPASANA of Das Vidya's gives > > strength to act in right direction. > > > Suppose one is unhappy with his preset marriage ,and wish to > > get rid of it , the remedies may help. But if the native will > > not renounce bad KARMA such AS Kama ,kRODHA OR LOBHA from ones > > life , he/or she may ultimately fall and will be victim of deeper > > malice. > > > > > > Particularly ,upasna of Dasa vidyas is a double edged sword , it > > will destroy the native first , > > > if the native does not give attention to good deeds and right > > conduct. > > > Without the worship of Ista devta nothing works.Read chapter 7 of > > Gita carefully. > > > > > > A exalted retrograde planet is a big liability and imposes big > > responsibility on the native, > > > the best course is to meet the challenge and rise to the > situation, > > > A exalted malefic planet demands supreme sacrifice , prepare > > oneself with the upasana > > > to face it. Your Ista and GODDESS WILL GIVE YOU STRENGTH TO > ENDURE > > IT , WHY THEY WILL > > > WARD OFF , THEY ARE NOT AGAINST OTHER PERSONS AGAINST WHOM NATIVE > > DID UNJUST ACTS > > > IN THE PAST. > > > AS SUCH worship IS AN EXERCISE AND POWERFUL TOOL FOR SELF > > IMPROVEMENT. IF IT IS NOT COMING OR HAPPENING , THEN EVERY THING > WILL > > ULTIMATELY BE LOST. > > > regards,G.K.GOEL > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > Get an email ID as yourname@ or yourname@ Click here > > http://in.promos./address > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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