Dual Lordship of signs scorpio and Aquarius

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OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAHDear Goel Ji,

Namaste.I have explained about Nodes during 2001-2002 when I was writing to vedic astrology agree with what you wrote now.BPHS is more than 100 % correct regarding this nodes.In my chart,Rahu is with Shukra in 2nd house in Kumbha Rashi.Shukra is the Yoga Karaka for my chart-Makara Lagna.I have always seen during Rahu's Sub periods,always good things are happening whereas Shukra's Sub periods,the results are not that good.Rahu gives the results of the planet with which it is associated with, whereas the other planet who is with Rahu loses its potency to do good.Rahu is always good when conjoined with any trinal lord.

With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr Rafal ji and other fellow savants,

Mr. Rafal says,

" Per our Tradition we also use Sikhi lordship of Sco Rasi in all dasa. "

Let us not take shelter in parampara.I have got the teachings directly from

Pt. Sanjay Rath ,when SJC was in the mode of formation. I am not joining issue

with Mr. Rafal as we consider him as bright sjc Guru in our group.

After saying so , it is our parmpara not to follow a dicta verbatim , but we must

carefully examine the intent of Shastra and also our Guru:

A.Vimsottari dasa and Nodes

 1. .In chapter 34 of BPHS SLOKA 16 AND 17:

'nodes give predominantly the effects as due to their conjunction with a house lord

and or as due to the house they occupy'

'If a nodes are in an angle in aspect to or association with a trinal lord or be in a trine in similar relation with an angular lord , it will become Yogakarka'

The following points may be noted :

a.No lordship of nodes is considered in above context,

b. Conjuction or 7th aspect is considered for yoga formation,Refer Sloka 5 of Laghuparasari.

    This means if  NODES ARE IN  TRINE  ASPECT WITH jupiter , they may influence each other but no yoga is        formed

2.  BPHS, in  ch 47 sloka 35 and 36 , says:

  'Rahu is in exaltation in Taurus and Ketu in Scorpio. Rahu in Mooltrikona in Gemini and Ketu in Sagittarius.

   They own Aquarius and Scorpio respectively.Some say their own signs Virgo and Pisces respectively'

If you study further slokas 40 to 43 , it is clear  that above narration is utilised to indicate Avasthas of nodes when

consideration of effects of nodes in Vimsottari dasa of these planets.

3,If we critically examine the effects of Rahu and ketu in their dasas and antardasas as given in BPHS

  chapters 52 to60 , Parasara has used the lordship of nodes when they become specifically the lords

  of Marka places that is HOUSES 2ND AND 7TH ONLY REPEAT ONLY.

Further their malificamce is not removed if they are lords of angular houses , as in the case of Other Malefics.

Our Parampara is to follow BPHS AND Updesh sutras.

As such Bphs has given specific instructions as to how use the ownership of nodes in VIMSOTTARI DASA.

 

In case of sign dasas and Rasi dasas and for calculations of  padas and dasa periods, BPHS AND

JAIMINI SUTRA HAD  GIVEN ELABORATE AND SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS BUT THESE ARE NOT APPLICABLE

IN NAKSHATRA DASAS IN TOTALITY.

I do not contradict others views particularly a SJC Guru as I also belong this group.I have only given above result of my understanding as studies. If somewhere I have gone wrong I am open for correction.There can not be a final viewin this ASATKRIT UNIVERSE which is ever changing.

Regards,

 G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA

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Dear Michael,

There is a dictum saying - Shanivad Rahu and Kujavad Ketu.This means Rahu acts like Shani and Ketu acts like Kuja.

I hope this helps.

With Regards,

Ramadas Rao.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Ramadas Rao,What if the nodes are not conjoined any planets - how do we decipher their results?Regards,Michalsohamsa , Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja wrote:

>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAHDear Goel Ji, > Namaste.> I have explained about Nodes during 2001-2002 when I was writing to> vedic astrology agree with what you wrote now.BPHS is more > than 100 % correct regarding this nodes.In my chart,Rahu is with Shukra in> 2nd house in Kumbha Rashi.Shukra is the Yoga Karaka for my chart-Makara> Lagna.I have always seen during Rahu's Sub periods,always good things are

> happening whereas Shukra's Sub periods,the results are not that good.Rahu> gives the results of the planet with which it is associated with, whereas> the other planet who is with Rahu loses its potency to do good.Rahu is

> always good when conjoined with any trinal lord.> With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.>

 

 

> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:> > > Dear Mr Rafal ji and other fellow savants,> > Mr. Rafal says,> > " Per our Tradition we also use Sikhi lordship of Sco Rasi in all dasa. "

> > Let us not take shelter in parampara.I have got the teachings directly from> > Pt. Sanjay Rath ,when SJC was in the mode of formation. I am not joining> > issue> > with Mr. Rafal as we consider him as bright sjc Guru in our group.

> > After saying so , it is our parmpara not to follow a dicta verbatim , but> > we must> > carefully examine the intent of Shastra and also our Guru:> > A.Vimsottari dasa and Nodes

> > 1. .In chapter 34 of BPHS SLOKA 16 AND 17:> > 'nodes give predominantly the effects as due to their conjunction with a> > house lord> > and or as due to the house they occupy'

> > 'If a nodes are in an angle in aspect to or association with a trinal lord> > or be in a trine in similar relation with an angular lord , it will become> > Yogakarka'> > The following points may be noted :

> > a.No lordship of nodes is considered in above context,> > b. Conjuction or 7th aspect is considered for yoga formation,Refer Sloka 5> > of Laghuparasari.> > This means if NODES ARE IN TRINE ASPECT WITH jupiter , they may

> > influence each other but no yoga is formed> > 2. BPHS, in ch 47 sloka 35 and 36 , says:> > 'Rahu is in exaltation in Taurus and Ketu in Scorpio. Rahu in Mooltrikona> > in Gemini and Ketu in Sagittarius.

> > They own Aquarius and Scorpio respectively.Some say their own signs> > Virgo and Pisces respectively'> > If you study further slokas 40 to 43 , it is clear that above narration is> > utilised to indicate Avasthas of nodes when

> > consideration of effects of nodes in Vimsottari dasa of these planets.> > 3,If we critically examine the effects of Rahu and ketu in their dasas and> > antardasas as given in BPHS> > chapters 52 to60 , Parasara has used the lordship of nodes when they

> > become specifically the lords> > of Marka places that is HOUSES 2ND AND 7TH ONLY REPEAT ONLY.> > Further their malificamce is not removed if they are lords of angular> > houses , as in the case of Other Malefics.

> > Our Parampara is to follow BPHS AND Updesh sutras.> > As such Bphs has given specific instructions as to how use the ownership of> > nodes in VIMSOTTARI DASA.> >> > In case of sign dasas and Rasi dasas and for calculations of padas and

> > dasa periods, BPHS AND> > JAIMINI SUTRA HAD GIVEN ELABORATE AND SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS BUT THESE ARE> > NOT APPLICABLE> > IN NAKSHATRA DASAS IN TOTALITY.> > I do not contradict others views particularly a SJC Guru as I also belong

> > this group.I have only given above result of my understanding as studies. If> > somewhere I have gone wrong I am open for correction.There can not be a> > final viewin this ASATKRIT UNIVERSE which is ever changing.

> > Regards,> >> >> > G.K.GOEL> > Ph: 09350311433> > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> > NEW DELHI-110 076> > INDIA> >> > ------------------------------

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> >> > > >>

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Sorry-I should have mentioned all this along with the question.

all these planets are in aquarius which is lagna and lagna degrees are 28.11.

asha

 

 

 

sohamsa , Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja wrote:

>

> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAH

> Dear Asha,

> Where are the planets you quoted ? ie., in which Rashi,longitudes and what

> is the Lagna ?

> With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 5:18 AM, ASHA <asha wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Namaste,

> > In case there are 2 planets conjoined with Rahu-Jupiter and Mars.

> > what effect will rahu give? Rahu is 28.4, Jupiter is 15.11 and mars is

> > 4.21.

> >

> > Is Rahu the co owner of aquarius.

> >

> > br

> > asha

> >

> >

> > In sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, " Michal Dziwulski "

> > <nearmichal@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Ramadas Rao,

> > >

> > > What if the nodes are not conjoined any planets - how do we decipher

> > their results?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Michal

> > >

> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, Ramdas

> > Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAHDear Goel Ji,

> > > > Namaste.

> > > > I have explained about Nodes during 2001-2002 when I was writing to

> > > > vedic astrology@ agree with what you wrote now.BPHS is more

> > > > than 100 % correct regarding this nodes.In my chart,Rahu is with Shukra

> > in

> > > > 2nd house in Kumbha Rashi.Shukra is the Yoga Karaka for my chart-Makara

> > > > Lagna.I have always seen during Rahu's Sub periods,always good things

> > are

> > > > happening whereas Shukra's Sub periods,the results are not that

> > good.Rahu

> > > > gives the results of the planet with which it is associated with,

> > whereas

> > > > the other planet who is with Rahu loses its potency to do good.Rahu is

> > > > always good when conjoined with any trinal lord.

> > > > With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > >

> > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr Rafal ji and other fellow savants,

> > > > > Mr. Rafal says,

> > > > > " Per our Tradition we also use Sikhi lordship of Sco Rasi in all

> > dasa. "

> > > > > Let us not take shelter in parampara.I have got the teachings

> > directly from

> > > > > Pt. Sanjay Rath ,when SJC was in the mode of formation. I am not

> > joining

> > > > > issue

> > > > > with Mr. Rafal as we consider him as bright sjc Guru in our group.

> > > > > After saying so , it is our parmpara not to follow a dicta verbatim ,

> > but

> > > > > we must

> > > > > carefully examine the intent of Shastra and also our Guru:

> > > > > A.Vimsottari dasa and Nodes

> > > > > 1. .In chapter 34 of BPHS SLOKA 16 AND 17:

> > > > > 'nodes give predominantly the effects as due to their conjunction

> > with a

> > > > > house lord

> > > > > and or as due to the house they occupy'

> > > > > 'If a nodes are in an angle in aspect to or association with a trinal

> > lord

> > > > > or be in a trine in similar relation with an angular lord , it will

> > become

> > > > > Yogakarka'

> > > > > The following points may be noted :

> > > > > a.No lordship of nodes is considered in above context,

> > > > > b. Conjuction or 7th aspect is considered for yoga formation,Refer

> > Sloka 5

> > > > > of Laghuparasari.

> > > > > This means if NODES ARE IN TRINE ASPECT WITH jupiter , they may

> > > > > influence each other but no yoga is formed

> > > > > 2. BPHS, in ch 47 sloka 35 and 36 , says:

> > > > > 'Rahu is in exaltation in Taurus and Ketu in Scorpio. Rahu in

> > Mooltrikona

> > > > > in Gemini and Ketu in Sagittarius.

> > > > > They own Aquarius and Scorpio respectively.Some say their own signs

> > > > > Virgo and Pisces respectively'

> > > > > If you study further slokas 40 to 43 , it is clear that above

> > narration is

> > > > > utilised to indicate Avasthas of nodes when

> > > > > consideration of effects of nodes in Vimsottari dasa of these

> > planets.

> > > > > 3,If we critically examine the effects of Rahu and ketu in their

> > dasas and

> > > > > antardasas as given in BPHS

> > > > > chapters 52 to60 , Parasara has used the lordship of nodes when they

> > > > > become specifically the lords

> > > > > of Marka places that is HOUSES 2ND AND 7TH ONLY REPEAT ONLY.

> > > > > Further their malificamce is not removed if they are lords of angular

> > > > > houses , as in the case of Other Malefics.

> > > > > Our Parampara is to follow BPHS AND Updesh sutras.

> > > > > As such Bphs has given specific instructions as to how use the

> > ownership of

> > > > > nodes in VIMSOTTARI DASA.

> > > > >

> > > > > In case of sign dasas and Rasi dasas and for calculations of padas

> > and

> > > > > dasa periods, BPHS AND

> > > > > JAIMINI SUTRA HAD GIVEN ELABORATE AND SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS BUT THESE

> > ARE

> > > > > NOT APPLICABLE

> > > > > IN NAKSHATRA DASAS IN TOTALITY.

> > > > > I do not contradict others views particularly a SJC Guru as I also

> > belong

> > > > > this group.I have only given above result of my understanding as

> > studies. If

> > > > > somewhere I have gone wrong I am open for correction.There can not be

> > a

> > > > > final viewin this ASATKRIT UNIVERSE which is ever changing.

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > G.K.GOEL

> > > > > Ph: 09350311433

> > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076

> > > > > INDIA

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > Get an email ID as yourname@ or yourname@ Click

> > > > > here.<

> > http://in.rd./tagline_dbid_8/*http://in.promos./address>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAHDear Asha,

In this case,Rahu gives the results of its sign lord Shani along with Guru as Guru is in Shatabhisha and Guru gives the results of Rahu.Kuja mostly gives his reults as he is in hos own Nakshatra of Dhanishta and little of Rahu and Guru also.

During the Daasa and Sub periods of these planets, you can check their reults.With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:19 AM, ASHA <asha wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry-I should have mentioned all this along with the question.

all these planets are in aquarius which is lagna and lagna degrees are 28.11.

asha

 

sohamsa , Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja wrote:

>

> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAH

> Dear Asha,

> Where are the planets you quoted ? ie., in which Rashi,longitudes and what

> is the Lagna ?

> With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 5:18 AM, ASHA <asha wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Namaste,

> > In case there are 2 planets conjoined with Rahu-Jupiter and Mars.

> > what effect will rahu give? Rahu is 28.4, Jupiter is 15.11 and mars is

> > 4.21.

> >

> > Is Rahu the co owner of aquarius.

> >

> > br

> > asha

> >

> >

> > In sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, " Michal Dziwulski "

 

> > <nearmichal@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Ramadas Rao,

> > >

> > > What if the nodes are not conjoined any planets - how do we decipher

> > their results?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Michal

> > >

> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, Ramdas

 

> > Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRA GURUBHYO NAMAHDear Goel Ji,

> > > > Namaste.

> > > > I have explained about Nodes during 2001-2002 when I was writing to

> > > > vedic astrology@ agree with what you wrote now.BPHS is more

> > > > than 100 % correct regarding this nodes.In my chart,Rahu is with Shukra

> > in

> > > > 2nd house in Kumbha Rashi.Shukra is the Yoga Karaka for my chart-Makara

> > > > Lagna.I have always seen during Rahu's Sub periods,always good things

> > are

> > > > happening whereas Shukra's Sub periods,the results are not that

> > good.Rahu

> > > > gives the results of the planet with which it is associated with,

> > whereas

> > > > the other planet who is with Rahu loses its potency to do good.Rahu is

> > > > always good when conjoined with any trinal lord.

> > > > With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > >

> > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr Rafal ji and other fellow savants,

> > > > > Mr. Rafal says,

> > > > > " Per our Tradition we also use Sikhi lordship of Sco Rasi in all

> > dasa. "

> > > > > Let us not take shelter in parampara.I have got the teachings

> > directly from

> > > > > Pt. Sanjay Rath ,when SJC was in the mode of formation. I am not

> > joining

> > > > > issue

> > > > > with Mr. Rafal as we consider him as bright sjc Guru in our group.

> > > > > After saying so , it is our parmpara not to follow a dicta verbatim ,

> > but

> > > > > we must

> > > > > carefully examine the intent of Shastra and also our Guru:

> > > > > A.Vimsottari dasa and Nodes

> > > > > 1. .In chapter 34 of BPHS SLOKA 16 AND 17:

> > > > > 'nodes give predominantly the effects as due to their conjunction

> > with a

> > > > > house lord

> > > > > and or as due to the house they occupy'

> > > > > 'If a nodes are in an angle in aspect to or association with a trinal

> > lord

> > > > > or be in a trine in similar relation with an angular lord , it will

> > become

> > > > > Yogakarka'

> > > > > The following points may be noted :

> > > > > a.No lordship of nodes is considered in above context,

> > > > > b. Conjuction or 7th aspect is considered for yoga formation,Refer

> > Sloka 5

> > > > > of Laghuparasari.

> > > > > This means if NODES ARE IN TRINE ASPECT WITH jupiter , they may

> > > > > influence each other but no yoga is formed

> > > > > 2. BPHS, in ch 47 sloka 35 and 36 , says:

> > > > > 'Rahu is in exaltation in Taurus and Ketu in Scorpio. Rahu in

> > Mooltrikona

> > > > > in Gemini and Ketu in Sagittarius.

> > > > > They own Aquarius and Scorpio respectively.Some say their own signs

> > > > > Virgo and Pisces respectively'

> > > > > If you study further slokas 40 to 43 , it is clear that above

> > narration is

> > > > > utilised to indicate Avasthas of nodes when

> > > > > consideration of effects of nodes in Vimsottari dasa of these

> > planets.

> > > > > 3,If we critically examine the effects of Rahu and ketu in their

> > dasas and

> > > > > antardasas as given in BPHS

> > > > > chapters 52 to60 , Parasara has used the lordship of nodes when they

> > > > > become specifically the lords

> > > > > of Marka places that is HOUSES 2ND AND 7TH ONLY REPEAT ONLY.

> > > > > Further their malificamce is not removed if they are lords of angular

> > > > > houses , as in the case of Other Malefics.

> > > > > Our Parampara is to follow BPHS AND Updesh sutras.

> > > > > As such Bphs has given specific instructions as to how use the

> > ownership of

> > > > > nodes in VIMSOTTARI DASA.

> > > > >

> > > > > In case of sign dasas and Rasi dasas and for calculations of padas

> > and

> > > > > dasa periods, BPHS AND

> > > > > JAIMINI SUTRA HAD GIVEN ELABORATE AND SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS BUT THESE

> > ARE

> > > > > NOT APPLICABLE

> > > > > IN NAKSHATRA DASAS IN TOTALITY.

> > > > > I do not contradict others views particularly a SJC Guru as I also

> > belong

> > > > > this group.I have only given above result of my understanding as

> > studies. If

> > > > > somewhere I have gone wrong I am open for correction.There can not be

> > a

> > > > > final viewin this ASATKRIT UNIVERSE which is ever changing.

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > G.K.GOEL

> > > > > Ph: 09350311433

> > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076

> > > > > INDIA

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > Get an email ID as yourname@ or yourname@ Click

> > > > > here.<

> > http://in.rd./tagline_dbid_8/*http://in.promos./address>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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