Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009  Dear Goelji, Thank you for the very beautiful explanation. This is indeed an important verse to understand. I have translated the verse as //23 evam sansadhya cha anyesham hanyat swaswa parayusha Nrunam parayusha bhaktva tesham ayuhu sphutam bhavet // Having calculated so for other beings, the longevity should be multiplied by its respective life span . This figure is then divided by the life span of human beings. This becomes the longevity of the being. Example as given by Goelji Regards, bhagavathi vedic_astrology_ classes@gro ups.com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote: > >  Dear Friends, > As regard to the translation of sloka 23 , I will mention the principle enunciated in this skloka, > you may translate the meaning of sloka in your words: > ' The standard life span of human beings is considered 120 years. All dasa periods given in BPHS >  ARE FOR HUMAN BEINGS. In case of humans no correction is required. In case one considers the nativity >   say, of horse . Its standard life span is 32 years.In the nativity of horse , if you get the longevity of 70 years by any method , then it is to be reduced 70 multiplied by 32 and divided by 120.Thus we will get 18.66 years. > Even while predicting any event this formula will be applicable' > Say in the life of a horse a event is to take place at the age of 30 years ,ACCORDING TO ANY DASA SYSTEM , Then this event will occur in the life of horse at the age of 30 multiplied by 32 and then divided by 120 = 8 years of the age of horse.' > 'Similarly , the life of Indian Parliament is  5 YEARS. One can compress any dasa with this method to apply > on swearing in charts.' > This a very important principle which is given in this sloka. > > On this chapter , I may mention some  important clues: > 1.This is a chapter which indicate Ayradaya - which simply means that what a person expect to get during the dasa of a planet. The three dasa mentioned in this chapter are planetary dasa. Total period indicates first cycle. Then next cycle will repeat and so on . These dasas do not indicate life span as beind assumed by savants sincemany centuries .This is the reason that no body dies on completion of first cycle. Native dies either before or much after completion of first cycle. > BPHS as well Jaimini Sutra gives separate chapter to find out time of death.BPHS gives a separate chapter-' MARKA ADHAYA'-  in which timing of death is considered. > 2. As this is the dasa periods of planets (unlike Vimsottari dasa which is a nakshatra dasa, or bhava or Rashi >  dasa) , BPHS DOES NOT GIVE RULES FOR PREDICTION OF THESE PLANETARY DASAS. >  One may refer Chapter 8 of Bhirat Jatak for dasa results. > 3. Varaha Mihira had nentioned that Ansayura dasa gives better results according to sage Satyacharya. > Regards, > > >  G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...> > vedic_astrology_ classes@gro ups.com > Monday, 27 April, 2009 7:08:30 AM > [vedic_astrology_ classes] Understanding BPHS- chapter 43/ part 4 > > > > > > Sri Ganeshaya Namah: > > 23 evam sansadhya cha anyesham hanyat swaswa parayusha > Nrunam parayusha bhaktva tesham ayuhu sphutam bhavet > > (Note: I will figure out the exact translation of this verse. The one given by Santhanam does not seem to match. Maybe, other members can help ) > > 24 atha ayuhu paramam vakshye nanajatisamudbhavam > Anantasankhyam devanam rishinam cha dwijottama > > Now I shall tell about the complete life span of other living beings. Gods and sages enjoy endless life span (immortal), O Brahmin > > 25 grudhra olook shuka dhwanksha sarpanam cha sahastrakam > Shyena vanara bhalluka mandukanam shatatrayam > > The life span for Eagles, owls, parrots, crows and snakes is 1000 years. Falcon, monkey, bear and frog, 300 years > > 26 panchashaduttarasha tam rakshasanam prakirtitam > Naranam kunjaranam cha vinshottarashatam tatha > > Demons live for 150 years. Human beings and elephants live for 120 years > > 27 dwatrinshad ghotakanancha panchavinshat kharoshtrayoho > Vrishanam mahishanam cha chaturvishativatsar am > > 32 years for horses, 25 for donkeys and camels, 24 for oxen and buffaloes, > > 28 vinahsti ayuhu mayuranam chagadinam cha shodasha > Hansanam panchanava cha pikanam dwadasha abdakaha > > 20 years for peacocks, 16 for goats and others (rams etc) , 14 for swans, 12 years for cuckoos > > 29 shunam paaravatanam cha kukkutanam dwadasha abdakaha > Budbuda adi andajanam cha parayuhu saptavatsaraha > > Dogs, pigeons and hens have a life span of 12 years. It is to be understood that all other birds have a longevity of 7 years > > 30 yadet adhuna proktam tridha ayu dwijasattama > Teshu kincha kada grahyamiti te kathayami aham > > O Brahmin, I have narrated three methods of longevity. I shall tell about which of the three systems should be chosen > > 31 vilagnape balopete shubhadrishte anshasambhavam > Ravau pindodbhavam grahyam chandre naisargikam tatha > > If the natal lagna is strong and aspected by benefics, then the amsahyu method is used. Is the Sun lagna is strong, then pindayu method is used; moon lagna be strong then naisargika method is used > > 32 balasamye dwayoho yogadalam ayuhu prakirtitam > Trayanam triyutehe trayanshasamam gyeyam dwijottama > > If two lagnas happen to be equal strong, then two systems should be worked out, and the average should be considered. If all three lagnas are equally strong, then the average of three should be taken > > To continue… > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta. cricket.. com > Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Edition http://downloads./in/firefox/?fr=om_email_firefox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Dear Goelji,Thank you for the very beautiful explanation. This is indeed an important verse to understand. I have translated the verse as//23 evam sansadhya cha anyesham hanyat swaswa parayushaNrunam parayusha bhaktva tesham ayuhu sphutam bhavet //Having calculated so for other beings, the longevity should be multiplied by its respective life span . This figure is then divided by the life span of human beings. This becomes the longevity of the being. Example as given by Goelji Regards,bhagavathivedic_astrology_ classes@gro ups.com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote:>>  Dear Friends,> As regard to the translation of sloka 23 , I will mention the principle enunciated in this skloka,> you may translate the meaning of sloka in your words:> ' The standard life span of human beings is considered 120 years. All dasa periods given in BPHS>  ARE FOR HUMAN BEINGS. In case of humans no correction is required. In case one considers the nativity >   say, of horse . Its standard life span is 32 years.In the nativity of horse , if you get the longevity of 70 years by any method , then it is to be reduced 70 multiplied by 32 and divided by 120.Thus we will get 18.66 years.> Even while predicting any event this formula will be applicable'> Say in the life of a horse a event is to take place at the age of 30 years ,ACCORDING TO ANY DASA SYSTEM , Then this event will occur in the life of horse at the age of 30 multiplied by 32 and then divided by 120 = 8 years of the age of horse.'> 'Similarly , the life of Indian Parliament is  5 YEARS. One can compress any dasa with this method to apply> on swearing in charts.'> This a very important principle which is given in this sloka.> > On this chapter , I may mention some  important clues:> 1.This is a chapter which indicate Ayradaya - which simply means that what a person expect to get during the dasa of a planet. The three dasa mentioned in this chapter are planetary dasa. Total period indicates first cycle. Then next cycle will repeat and so on . These dasas do not indicate life span as beind assumed by savants sincemany centuries .This is the reason that no body dies on completion of first cycle. Native dies either before or much after completion of first cycle.> BPHS as well Jaimini Sutra gives separate chapter to find out time of death.BPHS gives a separate chapter-' MARKA ADHAYA'-  in which timing of death is considered.> 2. As this is the dasa periods of planets (unlike Vimsottari dasa which is a nakshatra dasa, or bhava or Rashi >  dasa) , BPHS DOES NOT GIVE RULES FOR PREDICTION OF THESE PLANETARY DASAS.>  One may refer Chapter 8 of Bhirat Jatak for dasa results.> 3. Varaha Mihira had nentioned that Ansayura dasa gives better results according to sage Satyacharya.> Regards,> > >  G.K.GOEL> Ph: 09350311433> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> NEW DELHI-110 076> INDIA > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> bhagavathi_harihara n <bhagavathi_ hariharan@ ...>> vedic_astrology_ classes@gro ups.com> Monday, 27 April, 2009 7:08:30 AM> [vedic_astrology_ classes] Understanding BPHS- chapter 43/ part 4> > > > > > Sri Ganeshaya Namah:> > 23 evam sansadhya cha anyesham hanyat swaswa parayusha> Nrunam parayusha bhaktva tesham ayuhu sphutam bhavet> > (Note: I will figure out the exact translation of this verse. The one given by Santhanam does not seem to match. Maybe, other members can help )> > 24 atha ayuhu paramam vakshye nanajatisamudbhavam> Anantasankhyam devanam rishinam cha dwijottama> > Now I shall tell about the complete life span of other living beings. Gods and sages enjoy endless life span (immortal), O Brahmin> > 25 grudhra olook shuka dhwanksha sarpanam cha sahastrakam> Shyena vanara bhalluka mandukanam shatatrayam> > The life span for Eagles, owls, parrots, crows and snakes is 1000 years. Falcon, monkey, bear and frog, 300 years> > 26 panchashaduttarasha tam rakshasanam prakirtitam> Naranam kunjaranam cha vinshottarashatam tatha> > Demons live for 150 years. Human beings and elephants live for 120 years> > 27 dwatrinshad ghotakanancha panchavinshat kharoshtrayoho> Vrishanam mahishanam cha chaturvishativatsar am> > 32 years for horses, 25 for donkeys and camels, 24 for oxen and buffaloes,> > 28 vinahsti ayuhu mayuranam chagadinam cha shodasha> Hansanam panchanava cha pikanam dwadasha abdakaha> > 20 years for peacocks, 16 for goats and others (rams etc) , 14 for swans, 12 years for cuckoos > > 29 shunam paaravatanam cha kukkutanam dwadasha abdakaha> Budbuda adi andajanam cha parayuhu saptavatsaraha> > Dogs, pigeons and hens have a life span of 12 years. It is to be understood that all other birds have a longevity of 7 years> > 30 yadet adhuna proktam tridha ayu dwijasattama> Teshu kincha kada grahyamiti te kathayami aham> > O Brahmin, I have narrated three methods of longevity. I shall tell about which of the three systems should be chosen> > 31 vilagnape balopete shubhadrishte anshasambhavam> Ravau pindodbhavam grahyam chandre naisargikam tatha> > If the natal lagna is strong and aspected by benefics, then the amsahyu method is used. Is the Sun lagna is strong, then pindayu method is used; moon lagna be strong then naisargika method is used> > 32 balasamye dwayoho yogadalam ayuhu prakirtitam> Trayanam triyutehe trayanshasamam gyeyam dwijottama> > If two lagnas happen to be equal strong, then two systems should be worked out, and the average should be considered. If all three lagnas are equally strong, then the average of three should be taken> > To continue… > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta. cricket.. com> Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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