Fw: Understanding BPHS- chapter 43/ part 4

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Om Namah Sivaya.

 

Namaste Sri Goel Ji and others,

 

Let me add some more points reg. Vilagna from Jaimini angle.

 

In Jaimini Vilagna not necessarily mean Janma Lagna. Vilagna means a special

lagna or an important lagna. Yes, Janma Lagna become Vilagna. Yet,Krishna Mishra

list out a number of lagnas and he instructs us to take the stronger of them as

Vilagna. Of course, some lagnas, he mentioned, are controversial, yet they are

worth considering.

 

As it is known that Jaimini Sampradaya (Tradition) has been lost to us, we never

know how many lagnas exists. My Guru says they are more than a dozen. Yet it

must be understood that any lagna whether it is Tripravana, Divaya or Sputa

Navamsa, all are some way connected with either Janma Lagna or Lagna lord.

 

In summary, we can safely assume that Vilagna may not be simply Lagna but the

stronger of

 

1. Janma Lagna

2. Hora Lagna

3. Ghatika Lagna

4. Sri Lagna

 

There are much more in the list, but I dont write them here for the controversy.

 

If sombody argues that these Jaimini concepts not be applied in interpreting

BPHS, then Hmmm.

 

Seeking Blesings,

Shanmukha

 

 

sohamsa , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:

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> Dear Bhagavathi ji,

> In Sloka , 31 the word Vilagna is translated signifying as Lagna.

> In SLOKA 34 AND 35, THREE WORDS ARE APPEARING SIMULTANEOUSLY,

> 'LAGNAHORAVILAGNABHAYAM'.This leads us no where.

> In other versions of BPHS , these words are not occurring simultaneously.

> Further more Vilagna may not signify Ghatilagna.There looks some mistake some

where.

> As such , sloka 34 and 35 may be indicating pair of Lagna and Horalagna.

> The three pair method has several exception , some are given in next chapter

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> I will recall my memory and try to list exceptions to the best of my

understanding.

> Regards,

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> Sri Ganeshaya Namah:

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> 23 evam sansadhya cha anyesham hanyat swaswa parayusha

> Nrunam parayusha bhaktva tesham ayuhu sphutam bhavet

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> (Note: I will figure out the exact translation of this verse. The one given by

Santhanam does not seem to match. Maybe, other members can help )

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> 24 atha ayuhu paramam vakshye nanajatisamudbhavam

> Anantasankhyam devanam rishinam cha dwijottama

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> Now I shall tell about the complete life span of other living beings. Gods and

sages enjoy endless life span (immortal), O Brahmin

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> 25 grudhra olook shuka dhwanksha sarpanam cha sahastrakam

> Shyena vanara bhalluka mandukanam shatatrayam

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> The life span for Eagles, owls, parrots, crows and snakes is 1000 years.

Falcon, monkey, bear and frog, 300 years

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> 26 panchashaduttarasha tam rakshasanam prakirtitam

> Naranam kunjaranam cha vinshottarashatam tatha

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> Demons live for 150 years. Human beings and elephants live for 120 years

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> 27 dwatrinshad ghotakanancha panchavinshat kharoshtrayoho

> Vrishanam mahishanam cha chaturvishativatsar am

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> 32 years for horses, 25 for donkeys and camels, 24 for oxen and buffaloes,

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> 28 vinahsti ayuhu mayuranam chagadinam cha shodasha

> Hansanam panchanava cha pikanam dwadasha abdakaha

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> 20 years for peacocks, 16 for goats and others (rams etc) , 14 for swans, 12

years for cuckoos

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> 29 shunam paaravatanam cha kukkutanam dwadasha abdakaha

> Budbuda adi andajanam cha parayuhu saptavatsaraha

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> Dogs, pigeons and hens have a life span of 12 years. It is to be understood

that all other birds have a longevity of 7 years

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> 30 yadet adhuna proktam tridha ayu dwijasattama

> Teshu kincha kada grahyamiti te kathayami aham

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> O Brahmin, I have narrated three methods of longevity. I shall tell about

which of the three systems should be chosen

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> 31 vilagnape balopete shubhadrishte anshasambhavam

> Ravau pindodbhavam grahyam chandre naisargikam tatha

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> If the natal lagna is strong and aspected by benefics, then the amsahyu method

is used. Is the Sun lagna is strong, then pindayu method is used; moon lagna be

strong then naisargika method is used

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> 32 balasamye dwayoho yogadalam ayuhu prakirtitam

> Trayanam triyutehe trayanshasamam gyeyam dwijottama

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> If two lagnas happen to be equal strong, then two systems should be worked

out, and the average should be considered. If all three lagnas are equally

strong, then the average of three should be taken

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> 33 atha anyadapi vakshayami srunu tvam dwijasattama

> Kaishchit lagna ashtameshabhyam manda indubhyam tathaiva cha

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> Now I shall tell about other methods, listen O Brahmin. This is based on

Lagna, 8th lord, Saturn and moon

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> 34 lagnahoravilagnabhy am sphutam ayuhu prakirtitam

> Adau lagna ashtameshabhyam yogam ekam vichintayet

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> The longevity can be arrived it from the positions of hora lagna and(?)vighati

lagna. Now the lagna and the 8th lord, together is one combination (for

longevity purpose)

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> 35 dwitiyam mandachandrabhyam yogam pashyet dwijottama

> Lagnahoravilagnabhy am tritiyam parichintayet

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> The second is seen from the combination of moon and Saturn, O excellent of

Brahmins, the third is the combination of hora lagna and vighati lagna (?)

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> (Note: Verse 34 says lagna ashtameshabhyam, so it means just lagna and the 8L

and not lagna lord. Verses 34 and 35 mention vilagna, which could best translate

to vighati lagna than lagna, because in pair one, we already had lagna with 8L.

This could be one of the reason why the three pair rule does not work all the

time, as we have not been considering vighati lagna over lagna in pair three.

This is my humble opinion, from the observation of several cases. Other learned

members can share their views)

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> 36 chararashau sthitau dwau chet tada deergham udahrutam

> Ekah sthire aparo dwandwe deergham ayuhu tathapi hi

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> If two (out of three) combinations happen to be a movable sign, the life span

will be long. One pair in a fixed sign and the other in a dual sign, also

confers a long life

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> 37 ekah chare sthira anyah chet tada madhyam udahrutam

> Dwau va dwandwe sthitau vipra madhyam ayuhu tathapi cha

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> One in movable, the other in fixed confers medium life span. The same is also

the case when two are in dual signs

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> 38 ekah chare aparo dwandwe dwau va sthiragatau tada

> Jatakasya tada alpayuhu gyeyam evam dwijottama

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> One in movable, and the other two in dual or fixed signs, will give limited

longevity, O Brahmin

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> 39 yogatrayena yogabhyam siddham yad grahyameva tat

> Yogatrayavisanvade lagnahoravilagnatah

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> The type of life denoted by three pairs should be considered. If all three

happen to be different, then the longevity denoted by hora lagna and (?)vighati

lagna should be considered

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> 40 lagne va saptame chandre grahyam manda indutah tada

> Haso vriddhihi cha kakshyaya vichintya sarvada budhihi

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> If moon happens to be in the lagna or in the 7th house, then the pair of

Saturn-moon rule applies ( if all three are different )

> 41 deerghe yogatrayena evam nakha Chandra samabdakaha

> Yoga dwayena vasvahsa yogaekena rasankakaha

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> If by all three pairs, long life is indicated, the span is 120 years, if it is

by two pairs, then it is 108 years, if one pair indicates long life, then the

span is 91 years

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> 42 madhye yogatrayena evam kha ashtatulya abdakaha smritaha

> Dwayaga yogadwayena atra yogaekena abdhi shanmitaha

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> If medium life is denoted by three pairs, the span is 80 years, 72 years if by

two pairs and 64 years if denoted by one pair

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> 43 alpe yogatrayena atra dwa trinshanmita vatsaraha

> Yogadwayena shat trinshat yoga ekena cha kha abdhayah

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> If limited longevity is indicated by three pairs, the span is 32 years, if by

two pairs, then it is 36 years and if by one pair, it is 40 years

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> To continue……….

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