Horoscope, free will and high profile charts (Your prediction on Chiranjeevi

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

Yes, question of relativity play a deceive role in Mundane Electioneering

predictions .

 

 

--- On Tue, 5/26/09, Sushil Dikshit <sushil.dikshit wrote:

 

Sushil Dikshit <sushil.dikshit

[vedic astrology] Horoscope, free will and high profile charts (Re:

Your prediction on Chiranjeevi

vedic astrology

Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 12:03 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shradheya PVR Ji,

 

 

 

Namaskaar,

 

 

 

Though I do not possess so much knowledge that I can comment at this level of

discussion but you have rightly said

 

 

 

" It is my personal observation that the success rate in high profile political

predictions is less than in regular predictions like marriage, job, childbirth

etc in " regular " charts. "

 

 

 

I do have the same opinion. When We predict about marriage of an individual,

only his chart is sufficient to make prediction but when we want to predict who

will win, we need all competitors' charts. One chart may have good yoga,

planetary placements but the other one which I did not look may have better yoga

and better planetary placements.

 

 

 

So if we predict for someone at a very early age that he will become President

of India in future, chances of it going wrong are much more that going correct.

 

 

 

regards

 

sushil dikshit

 

 

 

vedic astrology, " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

 

>

 

> Dear Narasimha ji,

 

>

 

> Never shy to put in my two cents even when " learned-ones " alone are invited to

comment -- for nothing ventured, nothing gained, as they say!

 

>

 

> Perhaps your poignant message does have much that is important, but perhaps it

is not just politicians but other celebrities as well. Jenner discovered the

small pox vaccine (The cow-pox story) in the 18th century but it took another

100 or more years before small pox was " eradicated " from the entire world! Many

other factors got in the way: knowledge, acceptance, economics!

 

>

 

> Perhaps it is not the karma and free will or destiny of the Politicians but

the voters too that comes into play -- who will win or who will not!

 

>

 

> We all get what we deserve!

 

>

 

> Makes sense?

 

>

 

> Ranjan

 

>

 

> vedic astrology, " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Namaste,

 

> >

 

> > I will share some freewheeling thoughts, in response to your question. I am

cc'ing this to some astrology lists after removing your name from the mail.

 

> >

 

> > * * *

 

> >

 

> > For those who are unaware of the prediction referred to below, here is a

little background.

 

> >

 

> > I had predicted in print in 2000 that Telugu film actor Chiranjeevi would

come into politics in 2007-2009 and and enjoy some political power. At the time

of that prediction, there were no such indications on the ground. But he did

come into politics in the same timeframe. The initial talk was in 2007, he

finally formed a party in 2008 and elections were in 2009. Though his party did

badly, he was elected as a legislator (MLA) in May 2009.

 

> >

 

> > Thus, the original prediction was quite successful. However, I upped the

ante last year by suggesting that Chiranjeevi' s party would do well in 2009

elections. Though I was not specific regarding his level of success and did not

predict that he would become the Chief Minister, I was honestly expecting his

party to do better than they managed. Thus, the followup of my original

prediction is a failure.

 

> >

 

> > * * *

 

> >

 

> > It is my personal observation that the success rate in high profile

political predictions is less than in regular predictions like marriage, job,

childbirth etc in " regular " charts.

 

> >

 

> > In some cases, the reason is that the birthdata is not accurate and yet we

are eager to make predictions. But sometimes we make bad predictions with good

data too. Of course, it can be a human error in judging various factors.

However, that human error seems to be a little more common in high profile

political predictions than in regular predictions. What could be the reason?

 

> >

 

> > I wonder if the factor of free will that is left out of astrology plays a

bigger role in political charts. I will try to think loud and elaborate what I

mean.

 

> >

 

> > * * *

 

> >

 

> > One's birth chart contains the list of actions committed in previous lives

using one's free will that are to give their reactions in this life. However, as

life goes on, one accumulates newer actions committed in THIS life using one's

free will. What happens at any point of time in one's life is a function of ALL

actions committed by one until that point of time, INCLUDING the actions

committed in THIS life until now. Some key actions committed using one's free

will in THIS life, especially at important crossroads in life, should impact the

life events from then onwards.

 

> >

 

> > Many people are weighed down by too many karmas and always playing a

catchup. In other words, destiny (sum of the actions of previous lives which are

to give a reaction now) is too weighty and free will in this life has little

scope. When the options available for the free will in this life are limited,

there may not be significant actions using free will and hence the modifications

to destiny based on actions of this life may not be big enough. Thus, horoscope

may be sufficient to predict events.

 

> >

 

> > However, highly popular, successful and high profile public personalities

may have less restrictions and more options available for their free will. With

their free will being more free and powerful, the actions committed by their

free will may have a higher weightage. As we are able to see only their destiny

in the horoscope (free will exercise upto birth) and unable to factor in how

free will was exercised in this life until now, we are perhaps handicapped in

our predictions.

 

> >

 

> > Whether a political leader is in limelight and becomes MP or the leader of

opposition in parliament or the Prime Minister, he is enjoying some political

power. Previous karmas placed him in a position to enjoy that power. To predict

the specific degree of power and make an accurate prediction, is the horoscope

sufficient always? Could the exercise of free will in this life until now make a

difference in some high profile charts?

 

> >

 

> > * * *

 

> >

 

> > I am just thinking loud here. Rather than posing a question and answering it

myself, I will let learned friends ponder on this for themselves.. .

 

> >

 

> > Best regards,

 

> > Narasimha

 

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

 

> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

 

> > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana

 

> > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom

 

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net

 

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

 

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org

 

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

 

> >

 

> > -

 

> > Dear PVR garu,

 

> >

 

> > Namaste.

 

> >

 

> > If you don't mind, could you please look in to why your prediction

on Chiranjeevi failed ?

 

> >

 

> > I am not asking this question with a wrong intent. I wanted to

understand if

 

> > 1) It is a human error (May be you ignored some data ? )

 

> > 2) You still can't understand why it failed and you think that was

the correct prediction to be best of your knowledge.

 

> >

 

> > I had a 50-50 faith on astrology 3 years ago and after coming to

know about you / your lessons I developed strong faith and I thought all the

failures are not because of astrology but because of astrologer's lack of

knowledge.

 

> >

 

> > If it is case #1, it is okay. But if it is case #2, then we have a

problem. We will have to conclude that the Jyotish knowledge that is available

to us at this age is very limited and may not be accurate.

 

> >

 

> > Best Regards,

 

> > <deleted>

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

[Guest guest]

Respected PVR Ji

 

Good Day!

Am not an astrologer; though I know simple things like rashis and planets and

exaltations etc. So basically a novice.. But the topic you have started is very

much close to my heart.

I take astrological advises; and I dont allow my philosophical side to reason

when I do that.

However now that the topic has come up; let me share my opinion. Other members

please

bear if what I write is a bit lengthy.

 

In Yoga Vasishtam, Vasistha Muni says to Lord Rama, people who talk about

destiny are ignorant. There is nothing greater than human will, nothing more

powerful. Human effort

is at the core of every achievement. Ravana had all the planets under his

control. The planets themselves have undergone a lot of ordeals ( So many

stories in our ancient scriptures).

 

But at the same time, King Vikramaditya who was invited to Lord Indra's court to

judge the best of the celestial dancers was subjected to severe hardships during

his saade sathi. King Vikramaditya was Maa Kali's devotee and she was there at

his beckoning. We can wonder why King Vikramaditya couldn't just ask a blessing

from her to be immune to saade sathi.

 

Coming back to our topic, both destiny and free will work in harmony and they

are 2 sides of the same coin. Destiny is the summation of the choices you have

made. It is NATURE's REACTION to your ACTIONs. FREE WILL is your REACTION to

NATURE " S REACTIONS. So this thing keeps happening over and over again. So lets

forget astrology and say its good for nothing? NO. First we have to understand

the position from where we operate. When we were

in 2nd or 3rd standard, we were taught 3-1=2; but we couldn't even imagine that

3-4=(-1). As we grew up we learnt yes that is possible. So the point from where

we operate changed.

Astrology is a science for helping human beings with guide posts. Because our

concerns are related to mundane affairs, money,family,health,career etc. And

astrology is a complex science at that; what with so many permutation and

combinations. That is why they have laid down the " lakshans " or  " signs " of

astrologers. It needs a lot of intuition and God's grace to precipitate the

essence from such complex science and give a prediction.. Isnt it funny to see

people want all the good things destined for them to remain and all the

difficult things to be remedied? Isnt it contradictory? At one hand we want the

predictions to be accurate, on the other the bad predictions to change? It can

be only one way; either destiny can change or not.

If it can change then good things (like you will become PM of this country) can

also change...Isnt it?

 

So coming to a conclusion; astrologers are not GOD's (though they are in a

different sense).

They can go wrong sometimes. Our approach should be- " yes this is what he has

predicted, fine, I will try my best to face the situation to the best of my

ability and God willing I will come out of it succesfully. " Once your reactions

turn into an acceptance mode, peace will start prevailing.

 

The basic premise that " why chiranjeevi dint become CM or PM or whatever? " can

be best suited for academic hair splitting, it should not come in the way of

pursuing the science with more devotion and dedication. When Newton's Laws of

motion were discovered, it served the purpose of those times, and it formed the

basis of the higher theories which has later proven that Newton's Laws are not

all comprising and has faults in it... So do we say Newton was an idiot?

 

Thanks for the patience if you have come till here.

 

J Nair.

 

 

 

________________________________

Sushil Dikshit <sushil.dikshit

vedic astrology

Tuesday, 26 May, 2009 9:33:20 AM

[vedic astrology] Horoscope, free will and high profile charts (Re:

Your prediction on Chiranjeevi

 

 

 

 

 

Shradheya PVR Ji,

 

Namaskaar,

 

Though I do not possess so much knowledge that I can comment at this level of

discussion but you have rightly said

 

" It is my personal observation that the success rate in high profile political

predictions is less than in regular predictions like marriage, job, childbirth

etc in " regular " charts. "

 

I do have the same opinion.. When We predict about marriage of an individual,

only his chart is sufficient to make prediction but when we want to predict who

will win, we need all competitors' charts. One chart may have good yoga,

planetary placements but the other one which I did not look may have better yoga

and better planetary placements.

 

So if we predict for someone at a very early age that he will become President

of India in future, chances of it going wrong are much more that going correct.

 

regards

sushil dikshit

 

vedic astrology, " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Narasimha ji,

>

> Never shy to put in my two cents even when " learned-ones " alone are invited to

comment -- for nothing ventured, nothing gained, as they say!

>

> Perhaps your poignant message does have much that is important, but perhaps it

is not just politicians but other celebrities as well. Jenner discovered the

small pox vaccine (The cow-pox story) in the 18th century but it took another

100 or more years before small pox was " eradicated " from the entire world! Many

other factors got in the way: knowledge, acceptance, economics!

>

> Perhaps it is not the karma and free will or destiny of the Politicians but

the voters too that comes into play -- who will win or who will not!

>

> We all get what we deserve!

>

> Makes sense?

>

> Ranjan

>

> vedic astrology, " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > I will share some freewheeling thoughts, in response to your question. I am

cc'ing this to some astrology lists after removing your name from the mail.

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > For those who are unaware of the prediction referred to below, here is a

little background.

> >

> > I had predicted in print in 2000 that Telugu film actor Chiranjeevi would

come into politics in 2007-2009 and and enjoy some political power. At the time

of that prediction, there were no such indications on the ground. But he did

come into politics in the same timeframe. The initial talk was in 2007, he

finally formed a party in 2008 and elections were in 2009. Though his party did

badly, he was elected as a legislator (MLA) in May 2009.

> >

> > Thus, the original prediction was quite successful. However, I upped the

ante last year by suggesting that Chiranjeevi' s party would do well in 2009

elections. Though I was not specific regarding his level of success and did not

predict that he would become the Chief Minister, I was honestly expecting his

party to do better than they managed. Thus, the followup of my original

prediction is a failure.

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > It is my personal observation that the success rate in high profile

political predictions is less than in regular predictions like marriage, job,

childbirth etc in " regular " charts.

> >

> > In some cases, the reason is that the birthdata is not accurate and yet we

are eager to make predictions.. But sometimes we make bad predictions with good

data too. Of course, it can be a human error in judging various factors.

However, that human error seems to be a little more common in high profile

political predictions than in regular predictions. What could be the reason?

> >

> > I wonder if the factor of free will that is left out of astrology plays a

bigger role in political charts. I will try to think loud and elaborate what I

mean.

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > One's birth chart contains the list of actions committed in previous lives

using one's free will that are to give their reactions in this life. However, as

life goes on, one accumulates newer actions committed in THIS life using one's

free will. What happens at any point of time in one's life is a function of ALL

actions committed by one until that point of time, INCLUDING the actions

committed in THIS life until now. Some key actions committed using one's free

will in THIS life, especially at important crossroads in life, should impact the

life events from then onwards.

> >

> > Many people are weighed down by too many karmas and always playing a

catchup. In other words, destiny (sum of the actions of previous lives which are

to give a reaction now) is too weighty and free will in this life has little

scope. When the options available for the free will in this life are limited,

there may not be significant actions using free will and hence the modifications

to destiny based on actions of this life may not be big enough. Thus, horoscope

may be sufficient to predict events.

> >

> > However, highly popular, successful and high profile public personalities

may have less restrictions and more options available for their free will. With

their free will being more free and powerful, the actions committed by their

free will may have a higher weightage. As we are able to see only their destiny

in the horoscope (free will exercise upto birth) and unable to factor in how

free will was exercised in this life until now, we are perhaps handicapped in

our predictions.

> >

> > Whether a political leader is in limelight and becomes MP or the leader of

opposition in parliament or the Prime Minister, he is enjoying some political

power. Previous karmas placed him in a position to enjoy that power. To predict

the specific degree of power and make an accurate prediction, is the horoscope

sufficient always? Could the exercise of free will in this life until now make a

difference in some high profile charts?

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > I am just thinking loud here. Rather than posing a question and answering it

myself, I will let learned friends ponder on this for themselves.. .

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

> > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana

> > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> >

> > -

> > Dear PVR garu,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> > If you don't mind, could you please look in to why your prediction on

Chiranjeevi failed ?

> >

> > I am not asking this question with a wrong intent. I wanted to understand if

> > 1) It is a human error (May be you ignored some data ? )

> > 2) You still can't understand why it failed and you think that was the

correct prediction to be best of your knowledge.

> >

> > I had a 50-50 faith on astrology 3 years ago and after coming to know about

you / your lessons I developed strong faith and I thought all the failures are

not because of astrology but because of astrologer's lack of knowledge.

> >

> > If it is case #1, it is okay. But if it is case #2, then we have a problem.

We will have to conclude that the Jyotish knowledge that is available to us at

this age is very limited and may not be accurate.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> > <deleted>

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear all,

I find it somewhat amusing that everyone talks about " free will " like it were an

umambiguous term like a " banana " (for example). What exactly is " free will " to

each of you? First decide that, then decide whether you have it or not.

 

In my study of western and eastern text, I find the following:

o When western text or western understanding (possessed by most people in the

world today, eastern or western) talk of free will, what they really mean is

their " freedom " or ability to follow their most urgent desires. When they can,

they have " free will " . When they cant, they dont have " free will " . It is the

simple, egotistical and common view.

o When eastern text (I dont know about astrological text that much, the gurus

know much better) or eastern understanding (a rare commodity) talk of free will,

what they really mean is their " freedom " FROM desire. When their mind is calm

and empty of desire, the actions that then follow are " free will " - the actions

are the unconscious and exactly commensurate reaction to the actions of the

world. When they act with desire, those actions are certainly not free will.

They are unconsciously " vasana willed " karma creating " visaya triggered "

reactions, and hence not free, even though the ego thinks they are.

 

Hope this is helpful or at least meaningful,

 

Regards,

 

Sundeep

 

 

sohamsa , Srinivasa Sunchu <padmanu wrote:

>

> Om Vishnave Namah

>

> Namasthe Narasimha Garu

>

> Is there a way or techniques to quantitatively and accurately ascertain how

much is the

> destiny/baggage part and the free will part.

> May be this is where modern day astrologers are lagging?

>

> Srinivasa

>

> --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote:

>

>

> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr

> Re: Horoscope, free will and high profile charts (Re: Your

prediction on Chiranjeevi)

> vedic astrology , sohamsa ,

,

> Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 6:40 PM

>

>

>

Namaste,

>

> > > how do we know that free will exists?.The so called free will can also

> > > be an asumption.As far as my experience goes whatever freewill existed

> > > for humans might have exited.I know majority will never agree but

> > > still......

>

> Well, free will DOES exist. In fact, what exactly is destiny anyway? There is

no destiny if there is no free will, for today's act of free will shapes

tomorrow's destiny.

>

> In fact, Vasishtha tells Rama in " Yoga Vaasishtham " that there is nothing

called destiny. He says all that is there is your free will. He says that

actions done in the past using your free will will catch up with you and that

catching up is given the name of destiny. This destiny is thus nothing external,

but acts of your own free will getting back at you.

>

> Just as a person who spends all his monthly salary in the first 10 days of the

month may have no money to spend in the next 20 days, similarly people who

abused their free will in the past may be faced with such a weighty destiny that

their free will is useless right now. Such people may feel that there is nothing

called free will.

>

> The amount of leeway and wiggle room available for free may may vary from

person to person and situation to situation, but it is a fact that free will

exists and that acts of free will shape one's future.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana

> Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

>

> , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Gopi ji,

> >

> > Please understand that I am truly asking this sincerely and somewhat

musingly (not amusingly!):

> >

> > All these remedies, that are prescribed and followed, some ending up being

effective, others not (and there has never been a reliable survey reporting the

efficacy of remedies, sorted by type or aggregate -- only anecdotal accounts) --

what are these? Destiny or acts of free will on the part of the nativity? In

both cases where they choose to follow these or choose not to follow the advice?

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " gopi_b927 " <gopi_b927@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Narasimha garu,

> > >

> > > how do we know that free will exists?.The so called free will can also

> > > be an asumption.As far as my experience goes whatever freewill existed

> > > for humans might have exited.I know majority will never agree but

> > > still......

> > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > I will share some freewheeling thoughts, in response to your question.

> > > I am cc'ing this to some astrology lists after removing your name from

> > > the mail.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > For those who are unaware of the prediction referred to below, here is

> > > a little background.

> > > >

> > > > I had predicted in print in 2000 that Telugu film actor Chiranjeevi

> > > would come into politics in 2007-2009 and and enjoy some political

> > > power. At the time of that prediction, there were no such indications on

> > > the ground. But he did come into politics in the same timeframe. The

> > > initial talk was in 2007, he finally formed a party in 2008 and

> > > elections were in 2009. Though his party did badly, he was elected as a

> > > legislator (MLA) in May 2009.

> > > >

> > > > Thus, the original prediction was quite successful. However, I upped

> > > the ante last year by suggesting that Chiranjeevi' s party would do well

> > > in 2009 elections. Though I was not specific regarding his level of

> > > success and did not predict that he would become the Chief Minister, I

> > > was honestly expecting his party to do better than they managed. Thus,

> > > the followup of my original prediction is a failure.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > It is my personal observation that the success rate in high profile

> > > political predictions is less than in regular predictions like marriage,

> > > job, childbirth etc in " regular " charts.

> > > >

> > > > In some cases, the reason is that the birthdata is not accurate and

> > > yet we are eager to make predictions. But sometimes we make bad

> > > predictions with good data too. Of course, it can be a human error in

> > > judging various factors. However, that human error seems to be a little

> > > more common in high profile political predictions than in regular

> > > predictions. What could be the reason?

> > > >

> > > > I wonder if the factor of free will that is left out of astrology

> > > plays a bigger role in political charts. I will try to think loud and

> > > elaborate what I mean.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > One's birth chart contains the list of actions committed in previous

> > > lives using one's free will that are to give their reactions in this

> > > life. However, as life goes on, one accumulates newer actions committed

> > > in THIS life using one's free will. What happens at any point of time in

> > > one's life is a function of ALL actions committed by one until that

> > > point of time, INCLUDING the actions committed in THIS life until now.

> > > Some key actions committed using one's free will in THIS life,

> > > especially at important crossroads in life, should impact the life

> > > events from then onwards.

> > > >

> > > > Many people are weighed down by too many karmas and always playing a

> > > catchup. In other words, destiny (sum of the actions of previous lives

> > > which are to give a reaction now) is too weighty and free will in this

> > > life has little scope. When the options available for the free will in

> > > this life are limited, there may not be significant actions using free

> > > will and hence the modifications to destiny based on actions of this

> > > life may not be big enough. Thus, horoscope may be sufficient to predict

> > > events.

> > > >

> > > > However, highly popular, successful and high profile public

> > > personalities may have less restrictions and more options available for

> > > their free will. With their free will being more free and powerful, the

> > > actions committed by their free will may have a higher weightage. As we

> > > are able to see only their destiny in the horoscope (free will exercise

> > > upto birth) and unable to factor in how free will was exercised in this

> > > life until now, we are perhaps handicapped in our predictions.

> > > >

> > > > Whether a political leader is in limelight and becomes MP or the

> > > leader of opposition in parliament or the Prime Minister, he is enjoying

> > > some political power. Previous karmas placed him in a position to enjoy

> > > that power. To predict the specific degree of power and make an accurate

> > > prediction, is the horoscope sufficient always? Could the exercise of

> > > free will in this life until now make a difference in some high profile

> > > charts?

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > I am just thinking loud here. Rather than posing a question and

> > > answering it myself, I will let learned friends ponder on this for

> > > themselves.. .

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > Narasimha

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> > > > -

> > > > Dear PVR garu,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste.

> > > >

> > > > If you don't mind, could you please look in to why your prediction on

> > > Chiranjeevi failed ?

> > > >

> > > > I am not asking this question with a wrong intent. I wanted to

> > > understand if

> > > > 1) It is a human error (May be you ignored some data ? )

> > > > 2) You still can't understand why it failed and you think that was the

> > > correct prediction to be best of your knowledge.

> > > >

> > > > I had a 50-50 faith on astrology 3 years ago and after coming to know

> > > about you / your lessons I developed strong faith and I thought all the

> > > failures are not because of astrology but because of astrologer's lack

> > > of knowledge.

> > > >

> > > > If it is case #1, it is okay. But if it is case #2, then we have a

> > > problem. We will have to conclude that the Jyotish knowledge that is

> > > available to us at this age is very limited and may not be accurate.

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > > <deleted>

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