Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Narasimha, Sarbani, Arpad et. al, Namaskar. In the entire discussion on Mahavidya and Grahas, I wished to point out that the simplicity with which Narasimha pointed out the Mahavidya and their equivalents was lacking proper comprehension of the concept of Graha and Devata. Two points I saw were mainly lacking. One philosophical and one Jyotish point. Firstly, Narasimha, you equate Mahavidya with: 'she who which helps overcome duality'. I didn't like this explanation yet I took it to myself to ask some Sadhakas who have practised Mahavidya mantras for the last couple of years. None of them agreed to this and they pointed out that if God is both dual and non-dual then it is only that the Mahavidya is overcoming our concept of duality or non-duality, whichever is stronger in us. This made me understand that your statement is solely in the eyes of the beholder... in this case you or the one who told you this. My next point is linked to this. Secondly, Narasimha, the means through which you linked the Mahavidya to the Graha is very far away from any way that I have seen Grahas and Devata linked. Lets take something simple, i.e. Why is Sun equated to Shiva? Really Sun is not Shiva, how can we say that the cooling and soothing Shiva mantras are like that hot hot Sun? Impossible really. At most you can say that Agni is the closest equivalent to the Sun or Suryadeva himself. In truth we are all taught that in the Pancha Devata puja that Shiva purifies and balances the Vayu Tattva and therefore also symbolises the strength of the Maruts which he is always so closely linked to in the Puranas. Because of this some astrologers TEND to equate Shiva with Shani as he is able to overcome the worst Vaata-disturbances, calm the mind and also remove all fears and sorrow, but that doesn't mean that Shiva is Shani but does have the power to overcome the Tattva that Shani represents. This by no means implies that we can prescribe Shiva mantras for all Shani problems, not at all. Nor does it mean that Rudraksha is advised by the Rishis for all Devata represented by Surya, far from it. So again, how did Shiva get equated with Surya when we came to the Graha level? It is because Shiva is able to enlighten the self of its true identity and since the Sun represents this self or Atma as an individual (vayu causes separation), Shiva SHOULD be worshipped to correct this main issue with the self. Its good for you to worship Shiva to overcome these issues with (non)duality. You know this, so why didn't you think in similar terms with the Mahavidya? i.e. What is the purpose of the Mahavidya and what is the Mother really doing to us? You could have stuck to iconography (sva/lagna-approach) of the Mahavidya and then surely gone wrong but at least come to something useful. I.e. Rahu represents the female widower and hence Dhumavati SHOULD be represented by Rahu, whilst Ketu represents the one depicted without a head one and therefore SHOULD at a very base level be represented by Ketu. Again note that we are sticking to iconography here. But, we are not looking for Graha-representation as this cannot be within the concept of Mahavidya. Mahavidya implies at its root that there is some vidya and some a-vidya and the Mahavidya is giving complete knowledge of all of these and also correcting wrong vidya (another way of looking at a-vidya). In the first year of Jaimini Sutras (feel free to listen to it online) we are taught that the concept of Avidya is linked to Badhaka, a principle enforced by the words of Harihara, author of Prasna Marga. Using this understanding, principally Ketu is corrected by the Mahavidya whose iconography resembles Rahu, and therefore only Dhumavati is worshipped to overcome the A-vidya of Ketu. This concept was revealed to a select few of us in Vineland, New Jersey in the summer of 2003. Similarly, you will hear statements such as, the worship of Tarini makes one the best student (Mercury), and the worship of Tripurasundari makes one able to continue the Sampradaya (Jupiter), and therefore ALL traditions of India stay alive due to the worship of Sri Tripurasundari. Yet, in practice Tripurasundari is advised to correct the faults of Mercury and Tarini is worshipped to correct the faults of Jupiter, and thereby enable the relationship of the teacher and student to be the best... again see that Mercury and Jupiter are natural Badhaka's to each other in the charts. This implies that Mahavidya is really a means of removing the natural Badhaka of the Graha as that is the place of A-vidya of that Graha. We affectionately say that Tarini is the Mother of Jupiter and that Tripura is the Mother if Mercury... but is not Mercury. Maharishi Vashishta, father of Shakta and grandfather of Maharishi Parashara, worshipped Sri Tarini Devi for thousands of years, as described in the Tara Tantra, to attain the fruit of good children. He had suffered on account of the demise of his son Shakta, and the direct lineage was broken. It was because of Tara's blessing that he attained an illustrious progeny which we today consider the fountain head of all knowledge of spirituality. So, should one question the age and practice of the Mahavidya's, we can go very very far back. This further confirms that Sri Tarini is worshipped to correct the flaws in Jupiter and is therefore appropriately praised as Sri Kuleshvari by many. Further, in practice ladies and men with great blockages and doshas with respect to children have seen all such problems removed through the worship of Sri Tarini confirming this. Should we then go into how the Grahas are linked to Jyotirlingas or even Avataras? Point is that simple justification will not suffice to describe the Devata's and brings the lists given without such consideration to much question. I hope my points will bring clarity to teachers and students alike. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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