Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA ----- Forwarded Message ---- Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest Cc: vedic astrology ; astrologyandremedies- ; sohamsa <sohamsa >; atma prakash <atma5236; BHUSAN k <naxatra; Chubb Phyllis <phyllis Wednesday, 8 July, 2009 3:22:59 PM Re: [ind.. & West. Astrology] Fwd: Americanised(Westernised) Ramayana Dear Pandey ji, YOU have posted nice dialogue, it is good to read at. The calender making and its reform are serious matters and decided on scientific basis. A civil and seasonal calender has to be based on tropical co-ordinates. This was recognised since Vadic era. The predictive astrology needed different co-ordinates and tools: !. Since ancient days , the sages observed, recognised and evolved various stars and constellations .They had also recorded the effects of transit of planets in constellations. These are given in vast independent literature still available , which is called Mahurta shastra. These references are also extensively quoted in Vedas' , Puranas' etc. 2. After Mahabharata era , Panchag was come into existence and in extensive use ..( In those days it was not possible to pin-point the location of V.E.Point on ecliptic.) Panchang has five limbs: a. Vara -week days- In Indian Astrology , week day starts from Sun rise.Sun rise was calculated with help of charantra and velantra. Knowledge of vara prolongs life as it gives life and energy. b. Tithi -As all of us know it is angular difference in the arc of Moon and Sun Knowledge of tithi brings prosperity as it strengthen marital relationship , passion and love life. c. KARAN - Karan represent half of the TITHI.It has a big importance as it controls the Karma. Knowledge of karna leads to success in all endeavours as it indicates activity,work in society,and achievements, d. Nakshatra - As Moon takes a round of the earth in about 27.32 days , they have divided Zodiac in 27 equal parts each of 13deg 20 min. They had also visualised(or introduced ) 28th Nakshatra , but without disturbing basic division of 27 Nakshatras-28th the ancient nakshatra carved out of last pada of Uttarasadha and 1st portion of 53'20 " of Sarvan.Taittirya Samhita 4.4.10 gives the names of Naksharas . We are using the same names without any deviation. Similarly , Richika 3.11.1 of Taittrya Brahman contains all the names like Sun .Moon, Nakshatra, Samvatsar, Ritu ,Masa,Arthmasa, Ahoratri, Purnamasi ,Astami , Amavasya etc.It also says that division of Nakshatra is based on Moon.. Nakshatra was used as one limb of Panchang since time immemorial.Varaha Mihiri in Surya siddhanta also indicates the commencing point of each Nakshatra from its yogatara, Yogatara of nakshatra Chitra i.e star chitra is exactly in the middle of this nakshatra and as such 1st point of sidereal zodiac is commences opposite to star Chitra.This fact was also recognised by Calender Committee , Most of Panchang makers agree with this. Knowledge of nakshatra removes sins as it is indicator of disease, death . bodily ailments. e, YOGA - This is the sum of the longitudes of Sun and Moon (Atma + Manha = Jeevha) ,They are also 27 in number and 1st Yoga- Visvakumbha commences from star Pushya.This is the reason that there is a Puranic lore that Jupiter (Jeeva) was born in Pushya. Knowledge of yoga gives immunity from diseases as it is indicator of general relationships, the company one keeps , friendship circle. Next step was to develop branch known as Jataka ..In this we require a birth chart and its analysis. BPHS PROVIDES US UNIQUE TECHNIQUES TO ANALYSE A BIRTH NATIVITIES . It is unfortunate that some savants (though in poor minority ) are not able to see its merits. They are more interested in chronological order than the contents.. Such persons wish to reform others without first reforming themselves. No person can appreciate the depth of sidereal astrology without understanding Mahurta shastra. Vikram Samvats-sar calender is totally based on astronomical norms and completely suitable and meets the requirements of our ancient astrology which is developed in last 5000 years. The present calender is in continuous use for over 2000 years. No one calender can meet all the requirement of society,as such the present panchangs are amalgamation of many calenders meets the requirement of all division of society.As an example you pick up Martand Panchang, it gives all necessary information on sidereal , tropical as well as other calender. one can pick up information according to its need. Regards, G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA ________________________________ Prashant Pandey <praspandey (AT) (DOT) co.in> indian_astrology_ group_daily_ digest@grou ps.com Tuesday, 7 July, 2009 10:02:48 PM [ind. & West. Astrology] Fwd: Americanised( Westernised) Ramayana HinduCalendar, " ramkileela " <ramkileela@ ...> wrote: Americanised Ramayan A young second generation Indian in the US was asked by his mother to explain the significance of " Diwali " to his younger brother, this is how he went about it... " So, like this dude had, like, a big cool kingdom and people liked him. But, like, his step-mom, or something, was kind of a bitch, and she forced her husband to, like, send this cool-dude, he was Ram, to some national forest or something... Since he was going, for like, something like more than 10 years or so... he decided to get his wife and his bro along... you know....so that they could all chill out together. But Dude, the forest was reeeeal scary shit... really man...they had monkeys and devil s and shit like that. But this dude, Ram, kicked with darts and bows and arrows... so it was fine. But then some bad gangsta boys, some jerk called Ravan, picks up his babe (Sita) and lures her away to his hood. And boy, was our man, and also his bro, Laxman, pissed... all the gods were with him... So anyways, you don't mess with gods. So, Ram, and his bro get an army of monkeys... Dude, don't ask me how they trained the damn monkeys... just go along with me, ok... So, Ram, Lax and their monkeys whip this gangsta's ass in his own hood... Anyways, by this time, their time's up in the forest... and anyways... it gets kinda boring, you know... no TV or malls or shit like that. So,they decided to hitch a ride back home.... and when the people realize that our dude, his bro and the wife are back home... they thought, well, you know, at least they deserve something nice... and they didn't have any bars or clubs in those days... so they couldn't take them out for a drink, so they, like, decided to smoke and shit... and since they also had some lamps, they lit the lamps also...so it was pretty cooool... you know with all those fireworks... . Really, they even had some local band play along with the fireworks... and you know, what, dude, that was the very first, no kidding..., thatwas the very first music-synchronized fireworks... you know, like the 4th of July stuff, but just, more cooler and stuff, you know. And, so dude, that was how, like, this festival started. " The mother fainted... --- End forwarded message --- ________________________________ See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA ----- Forwarded Message ----Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest Cc: vedic astrology ; astrologyandremedies- ; sohamsa <sohamsa >; atma prakash <atma5236; BHUSAN k <naxatra; Chubb Phyllis <phyllisWednesday, 8 July, 2009 3:22:59 PMRe: [ind. & West. Astrology] Fwd: Americanised(Westernised) Ramayana Dear Pandey ji, YOU have posted nice dialogue, it is good to read at. The calender making and its reform are serious matters and decided on scientific basis. A civil and seasonal calender has to be based on tropical co-ordinates. This was recognised since Vadic era. The predictive astrology needed different co-ordinates and tools: !. Since ancient days , the sages observed, recognised and evolved various stars and constellations .They had also recorded the effects of transit of planets in constellations. These are given in vast independent literature still available , which is called Mahurta shastra. These references are also extensively quoted in Vedas' , Puranas' etc. 2. After Mahabharata era , Panchag was come into existence and in extensive use .( In those days it was not possible to pin-point the location of V.E.Point on ecliptic.) Panchang has five limbs: a. Vara -week days- In Indian Astrology , week day starts from Sun rise..Sun rise was calculated with help of charantra and velantra. Knowledge of vara prolongs life as it gives life and energy. b. Tithi -As all of us know it is angular difference in the arc of Moon and Sun Knowledge of tithi brings prosperity as it strengthen marital relationship , passion and love life. c. KARAN - Karan represent half of the TITHI.It has a big importance as it controls the Karma. Knowledge of karna leads to success in all endeavours as it indicates activity,work in society,and achievements, d. Nakshatra - As Moon takes a round of the earth in about 27.32 days , they have divided Zodiac in 27 equal parts each of 13deg 20 min. They had also visualised(or introduced ) 28th Nakshatra , but without disturbing basic division of 27 Nakshatras-28th the ancient nakshatra carved out of last pada of Uttarasadha and 1st portion of 53'20"of Sarvan.Taittirya Samhita 4.4.10 gives the names of Naksharas . We are using the same names without any deviation. Similarly , Richika 3.11.1 of Taittrya Brahman contains all the names like Sun .Moon, Nakshatra, Samvatsar, Ritu ,Masa,Arthmasa, Ahoratri, Purnamasi ,Astami , Amavasya etc.It also says that division of Nakshatra is based on Moon.. Nakshatra was used as one limb of Panchang since time immemorial.Varaha Mihiri in Surya siddhanta also indicates the commencing point of each Nakshatra from its yogatara, Yogatara of nakshatra Chitra i.e star chitra is exactly in the middle of this nakshatra and as such 1st point of sidereal zodiac is commences opposite to star Chitra.This fact was also recognised by Calender Committee , Most of Panchang makers agree with this. Knowledge of nakshatra removes sins as it is indicator of disease, death . bodily ailments. e, YOGA - This is the sum of the longitudes of Sun and Moon (Atma + Manha = Jeevha) ,They are also 27 in number and 1st Yoga- Visvakumbha commences from star Pushya.This is the reason that there is a Puranic lore that Jupiter (Jeeva) was born in Pushya. Knowledge of yoga gives immunity from diseases as it is indicator of general relationships, the company one keeps , friendship circle. Next step was to develop branch known as Jataka .In this we require a birth chart and its analysis. BPHS PROVIDES US UNIQUE TECHNIQUES TO ANALYSE A BIRTH NATIVITIES . It is unfortunate that some savants (though in poor minority ) are not able to see its merits. They are more interested in chronological order than the contents.. Such persons wish to reform others without first reforming themselves. No person can appreciate the depth of sidereal astrology without understanding Mahurta shastra. Vikram Samvats-sar calender is totally based on astronomical norms and completely suitable and meets the requirements of our ancient astrology which is developed in last 5000 years. The present calender is in continuous use for over 2000 years. No one calender can meet all the requirement of society,as such the present panchangs are amalgamation of many calenders meets the requirement of all division of society.As an example you pick up Martand Panchang, it gives all necessary information on sidereal , tropical as well as other calender. one can pick up information according to its need. Regards, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA Prashant Pandey <praspandey (AT) (DOT) co.in>indian_astrology_ group_daily_ digest@grou ps.comTuesday, 7 July, 2009 10:02:48 PM[ind. & West.. Astrology] Fwd: Americanised( Westernised) Ramayana HinduCalendar, "ramkileela" <ramkileela@ ...> wrote:Americanised RamayanA young second generation Indian in the US was asked by his mother toexplain the significance of "Diwali" to his younger brother, this ishow he went about it..." So, like this dude had, like, a big cool kingdom and people likedhim. But, like, his step-mom, or something, was kind of a bitch, andshe forced her husband to, like, send this cool-dude, he was Ram, tosome national forest or something... Since he was going, for like,something like more than 10 years or so... he decided to get his wifeand his bro along... you know....so that they could all chill outtogether. But Dude, the forest was reeeeal scary shit... reallyman...they had monkeys and devil s and shit like that. But this dude,Ram, kicked with darts and bows and arrows... so it was fine.But then some bad gangsta boys, some jerk called Ravan, picks up hisbabe (Sita) and lures her away to his hood. And boy, was our man, andalso his bro, Laxman, pissed... all the gods were with him... Soanyways, you don't mess with gods. So, Ram, and his bro get an army ofmonkeys... Dude, don't ask me how they trained the damn monkeys....just go along with me, ok...So, Ram, Lax and their monkeys whip this gangsta's ass in his ownhood... Anyways, by this time, their time's up in the forest... andanyways... it gets kinda boring, you know.... no TV or malls or shitlike that. So,they decided to hitch a ride back home.... and when thepeople realize that our dude, his bro and the wife are back home...they thought, well, you know, at least they deserve something nice...and they didn't have any bars or clubs in those days... so theycouldn't take them out for a drink, so they, like, decided to smokeand shit... and since they also had some lamps, they lit the lampsalso...so it was pretty cooool... you know with all thosefireworks... . Really, they even had some local band play along withthe fireworks... and you know, what, dude, that was the very first, nokidding...., thatwas the very first music-synchronized fireworks... youknow, like the 4th of July stuff, but just, more cooler and stuff, youknow. And, so dude,that was how, like, this festival started."The mother fainted..--- End forwarded message --- See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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