Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 OM SHREE GURAVE NAMAH Namaste Respected Scholars, What must I do when one astrologer forcasts one thing and I see another. This person whose birth details are as follows: July 16 1973 18:23 London, UK is presently running Jupiter/Saturn, Jupiter is debilitated and MKS, Saturn is in the 8th house with Ketu very close conjunction. there are developing what appear to be some very serious health problems. And one person says that the coming Jupiter/Mercury period will be 'good'. First of all Mercury is the Rudra planet, it is lord of both Saturn/Ketu, is placed in badha sthan, the recent eclipse occurred exactly on the degree of natal Mercury,the solar eclipse in January occured within 2 degrees of the natal Moon/bhadakesa in 3rd house, the navamsa placement of Mercury is in the 8th house with Rahu and aspect of Saturn from 11th house. Saturn is about to transit in trines to AL in a sign that has only one benific point in AKV. And as per Sthira Dasa from what I gleaned from PVR's paper he will enter into antardasa of a sign that is housing Maheshwara planet, Saturn and has aspect of Mars. Many of the shashtiamsas are malefic espcially lagna lord. Does a malefic D-60 division ensure that dushta karma will be experienced/suffered? Or does it mean there is just an association with the karma. Lagna/8th lord=Fixed Moon/Saturn=Fixed Lagna/HL=fixed Lagna lord in benefic sign Ak aspects lagna and Jupiter does also for that matter, so there is some enhancement but how much? I dont want to negative so I keep my mouth shut. To be honest, I dont want to say anything as I feel I am unqualified. But I dont want to say goodbye to my friend either. That also is another matter. Will this man's AK protect him? It is placed in the same house along with Mercury, 9th house supposed to protect you right? My perception is cloudy, I am a tamasic graha. I have followed what I have learned through my association with SJC. Well not everything....but I would like for someone to comment on this. Is it ethical for me to be inquiring here about this? Why do people take money and say good things when there are some things that are very questionable about what the chart is indicating? Especially when this is what the person was inquiring about. I am almost ready to give up jyotisha. But I can't..... Dear scholars, inspite of everthing I have learned even today my doubts are not dispelled... Regards..................Ajaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Dear Ajaya You wrote * inspite of everthing I have learned even today my doubts are not dispelled* ... even I can say the same thing after all these decades of jyotiá¹£a. Learning jyotiá¹£a is like swimming the Pacific from America to India! Quite a distance and with many dangers, but we cannot stop. You read one paper on sthira daÅ›Ä and then decided that it was the be all and end all of jyotiá¹£a. Ajaya life is not as simple. You apply one rule, a method of three pairs and are sure it will work without any kaká¹£ya harana or bharana nor rÄÅ›i harana or bharana. You learn one thing about the eclipse and not blindly use it for one planet position in the chart without thinking that well, that Mercury will be in the charts of all people born on that day. Are all of them going to die? How often have you seen eclipses being used to time death? There is more to it and please read my paper which gives the teachings of VarÄhamihÄ«ra. Like all subjects, Jyotiá¹£a at the lower levels is like Math 1+1 =2 ...but when we go higher, this simplicity vanishes and there are too many things to study. Jyotiá¹£a readings are done to help people find solutions to life. To make them strong and give them faith to traverse the dark phases of life. Readings are not done to torture them or frighten them. Look if someone has to die, let him die bravely; if someone has to suffer give them the mantra that will make their minds strong like Rudra to face and survive it. That is ManuÅ›ya dharma and being a jyotishi, you have to do all the calculations, see all the dangers and then reveal what is necessary based on the ability of the person to take the information. Do not give useless information. Yes, it is ethical for you to be enquiring about this. We all have questions and need answers. Hope I have made my views clear on this. It is hard work and that is what a real jyotishi has to be. Best wishes Sanjay Rath P.S. Ask your friend to worship the devatÄ of his Janma nakshatra = ÅšrÄvaṇa sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of yitzhak29 05 August 2009 11:21 sohamsa Sthira Dasa and Death.... OM SHREE GURAVE NAMAH Namaste Respected Scholars, What must I do when one astrologer forcasts one thing and I see another. This person whose birth details are as follows: July 16 1973 18:23 London, UK is presently running Jupiter/Saturn, Jupiter is debilitated and MKS, Saturn is in the 8th house with Ketu very close conjunction. there are developing what appear to be some very serious health problems. And one person says that the coming Jupiter/Mercury period will be 'good'. First of all Mercury is the Rudra planet, it is lord of both Saturn/Ketu, is placed in badha sthan, the recent eclipse occurred exactly on the degree of natal Mercury,the solar eclipse in January occured within 2 degrees of the natal Moon/bhadakesa in 3rd house, the navamsa placement of Mercury is in the 8th house with Rahu and aspect of Saturn from 11th house. Saturn is about to transit in trines to AL in a sign that has only one benific point in AKV. And as per Sthira Dasa from what I gleaned from PVR's paper he will enter into antardasa of a sign that is housing Maheshwara planet, Saturn and has aspect of Mars. Many of the shashtiamsas are malefic espcially lagna lord. Does a malefic D-60 division ensure that dushta karma will be experienced/suffered? Or does it mean there is just an association with the karma. Lagna/8th lord=Fixed Moon/Saturn=Fixed Lagna/HL=fixed Lagna lord in benefic sign Ak aspects lagna and Jupiter does also for that matter, so there is some enhancement but how much? I dont want to negative so I keep my mouth shut. To be honest, I dont want to say anything as I feel I am unqualified. But I dont want to say goodbye to my friend either. That also is another matter. Will this man's AK protect him? It is placed in the same house along with Mercury, 9th house supposed to protect you right? My perception is cloudy, I am a tamasic graha. I have followed what I have learned through my association with SJC. Well not everything....but I would like for someone to comment on this. Is it ethical for me to be inquiring here about this? Why do people take money and say good things when there are some things that are very questionable about what the chart is indicating? Especially when this is what the person was inquiring about. I am almost ready to give up jyotisha. But I can't..... Dear scholars, inspite of everthing I have learned even today my doubts are not dispelled... Regards..................Ajaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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