Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafa³ Gendarz skrev: Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? Date: June 24, 1983 Time: 18:54:24 Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10" Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze: Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/22 Rafa³ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. Date: October 25, 1982 Time: 19:38:18 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00" Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Dear Rafal,You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth.However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of " free will " but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors.However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration', 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards/Jay Weiss2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti  हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev:  Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? Date:         June 24, 1983 Time:         18:54:24 Time Zone:    2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        19 E 03' 10 " , 50 N 17' 10 " Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze:  Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss  2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>  om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. Date:         October 25, 1982 Time:         19:38:18 Time Zone:    1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        18 E 41' 00 " , 50 N 13' 00 "               Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Om Gurave NamahDear Jay,And... do you have anything new and informative to say? Please.Warm Regards,Maja StrbacHari Om Tat Sat--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Jay Weiss <weissjay wrote:Jay Weiss <weissjayRe: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed.sohamsa Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 3:54 AM Dear Rafal,You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth.However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of "free will" but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors.However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration', 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards/Jay Weiss2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev: Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? June 24, 1983 Time: 18:54:24 Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10" Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze: Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. October 25, 1982 Time: 19:38:18 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00" Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Dear Maja,PLENTY but not at present.../Jay2009/8/23 Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro  Om Gurave NamahDear Jay,And... do you have anything new and informative to say? Please.Warm Regards,Maja StrbacHari Om Tat Sat--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Jay Weiss <weissjay wrote: Jay Weiss <weissjayRe: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed.sohamsa Sunday, August 23, 2009, 3:54 AM  Dear Rafal,You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth.However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of " free will " but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors.However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration', 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards/Jay Weiss2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>  हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev:  Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? Date:         June 24, 1983 Time:         18:54:24 Time Zone:    2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        19 E 03' 10 " , 50 N 17' 10 " Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze:  Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss  2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>  om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. Date:         October 25, 1982 Time:         19:38:18 Time Zone:    1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        18 E 41' 00 " , 50 N 13' 00 "               Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Om Gurave NamahDear Jay,PLEASE let me know when you do. I totally dislike wasting coffee I am drinking when opening emails which make this kind of impression.I will appreciate it, I promise!P.S. Or you can at least try being creative when saying "same old-same old".Warm Regards,Maja StrbacHari Om Tat Sat--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Jay Weiss <weissjay wrote:Jay Weiss <weissjayRe: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed.sohamsa Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 5:52 AM Dear Maja,PLENTY but not at present.../Jay2009/8/23 Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro@ > Om Gurave NamahDear Jay,And... do you have anything new and informative to say? Please.Warm Regards,Maja StrbacHari Om Tat Sat--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Jay Weiss <weissjay (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Jay Weiss <weissjay (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed.sohamsa@ .com Sunday, August 23, 2009, 3:54 AM Dear Rafal,You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth.However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of "free will" but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors.However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration', 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards/Jay Weiss2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev: Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? June 24, 1983 Time: 18:54:24 Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10" Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze: Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. October 25, 1982 Time: 19:38:18 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00" Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Maja,Keep on wasting your coffee because judging by your mails attitude you do not deserve better.Over and out!/Jay2009/8/23 Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro  Om Gurave NamahDear Jay,PLEASE let me know when you do. I totally dislike wasting coffee I am drinking when opening emails which make this kind of impression. I will appreciate it, I promise!P.S. Or you can at least try being creative when saying " same old-same old " .Warm Regards,Maja StrbacHari Om Tat Sat--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Jay Weiss <weissjay wrote: Jay Weiss <weissjayRe: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed. sohamsa Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 5:52 AM  Dear Maja,PLENTY but not at present.../Jay2009/8/23 Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro@ >  Om Gurave NamahDear Jay,And... do you have anything new and informative to say? Please.Warm Regards,Maja StrbacHari Om Tat Sat--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Jay Weiss <weissjay (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Jay Weiss <weissjay (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed.sohamsa@ .com Sunday, August 23, 2009, 3:54 AM  Dear Rafal,You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth.However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of " free will " but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors.However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration', 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards/Jay Weiss2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>  हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev:  Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? Date:         June 24, 1983 Time:         18:54:24 Time Zone:    2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        19 E 03' 10 " , 50 N 17' 10 " Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze:  Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss  2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>  om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. Date:         October 25, 1982 Time:         19:38:18 Time Zone:    1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        18 E 41' 00 " , 50 N 13' 00 "               Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Om Gurave NamahDear Jay,I am noticing lack of creativity in your writing again, Jay. Taking this in consideration, please skip mentioning levels in any context. It sounds funny.Warm Regards,Maja--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Jay Weiss <weissjay wrote:Jay Weiss <weissjayRe: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed.sohamsa Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 7:16 AM Maja,Keep on wasting your coffee because judging by your mails attitude you do not deserve better.Over and out!/Jay2009/8/23 Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro@ > Om Gurave NamahDear Jay,PLEASE let me know when you do. I totally dislike wasting coffee I am drinking when opening emails which make this kind of impression. I will appreciate it, I promise!P.S. Or you can at least try being creative when saying "same old-same old".Warm Regards,Maja StrbacHari Om Tat Sat--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Jay Weiss <weissjay (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Jay Weiss <weissjay (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed. sohamsa@ .comSunday, August 23, 2009, 5:52 AM Dear Maja,PLENTY but not at present.../Jay2009/8/23 Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro@ > Om Gurave NamahDear Jay,And... do you have anything new and informative to say? Please.Warm Regards,Maja StrbacHari Om Tat Sat--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Jay Weiss <weissjay (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Jay Weiss <weissjay (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed.sohamsa@ .com Sunday, August 23, 2009, 3:54 AM Dear Rafal,You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth.However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of "free will" but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors.However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration', 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards/Jay Weiss2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev: Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? June 24, 1983 Time: 18:54:24 Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10" Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze: Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. October 25, 1982 Time: 19:38:18 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00" Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Dear Jay I believe that knowledge which comes from this parampara can explain my so called mistake. Maybe you are less idealistic, your mail is too pragmatical for me and its like an excuse for being lazy bum. Sorry, if that hurts, but thats my feeling after reading it. Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze:  Dear Rafal, You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth. However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of "free will" but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors. However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration', 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>  हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev:  Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? Date:         June 24, 1983 Time:         18:54:24 Time Zone:    2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10" Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze:  Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss  2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>  om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. Date:         October 25, 1982 Time:         19:38:18 Time Zone:    1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00"               Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Hare Rama Krsna Aside from being idealistic, the understanding of a mistake is one of the best ways to learn techniques or variations of techniques, or exceptions to techniques and to find our blind spots. Guruji teaches us according to fundamental principles which can be utilized universally with the application of proper logic. The determination to find the reasoning why an event happens can only lead to learning. To falter to human tamas and think that it is impossible for ourselves to know because of fate/freewill/ignorance/inability/etc will not lead one to become devagya. Namah Shivaya RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponmesohamsa Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:30:51 PMRe: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed. Dear JayI believe that knowledge which comes from this parampara can explain my so called mistake.Maybe you are less idealistic, your mail is too pragmatical for me and its like an excuse for being lazy bum.Sorry, if that hurts, but thats my feeling after reading it.Rafal GendarzJay Weiss pisze: Dear Rafal, You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth. However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of "free will" but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors.. However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration' , 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Rafal, Namaskar.Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now.You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev: Dear Visti, Jay,Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer.I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predictsmall periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti:Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? June 24, 1983Time: 18:54:24Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10"Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL.RegardsRafal GendarzJay Weiss pisze: Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear JyotishasNormally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart.However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. October 25, 1982Time: 19:38:18Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00" Knurow, PolandLe dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite.7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa..RegardsRafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru------------ --Consultations & Pageshttp://rohinaa.. comrafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 NO Rafal, it does not hurt as it shows how STUPID and CHILDISH you are and certainly not qualified to be an astrologer or in any position to advice other human beings.It is below my dignity to continue any further contact with you or your 'coffee waisting' protector. /Jay2009/8/24 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme  Dear Jay I believe that knowledge which comes from this parampara can explain my so called mistake. Maybe you are less idealistic, your mail is too pragmatical for me and its like an excuse for being lazy bum. Sorry, if that hurts, but thats my feeling after reading it. Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze:  Dear Rafal, You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth. However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of " free will " but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors. However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration', 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti  हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev:  Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? Date:         June 24, 1983 Time:         18:54:24 Time Zone:    2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        19 E 03' 10 " , 50 N 17' 10 " Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze:  Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss  2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>  om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. Date:         October 25, 1982 Time:         19:38:18 Time Zone:    1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        18 E 41' 00 " , 50 N 13' 00 "               Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Namskar Sanjay  and sarbani jiplz do the need full.... regardAmit puri 2009/8/24 Jay Weiss <weissjay  NO Rafal, it does not hurt as it shows how STUPID and CHILDISH you are and certainly not qualified to be an astrologer or in any position to advice other human beings. It is below my dignity to continue any further contact with you or your 'coffee waisting' protector. /Jay2009/8/24 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme  Dear Jay I believe that knowledge which comes from this parampara can explain my so called mistake. Maybe you are less idealistic, your mail is too pragmatical for me and its like an excuse for being lazy bum. Sorry, if that hurts, but thats my feeling after reading it. Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze:  Dear Rafal, You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth. However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of " free will " but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors. However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration', 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti  हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev:  Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? Date:         June 24, 1983 Time:         18:54:24 Time Zone:    2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        19 E 03' 10 " , 50 N 17' 10 " Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze:  Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss  2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>  om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. Date:         October 25, 1982 Time:         19:38:18 Time Zone:    1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        18 E 41' 00 " , 50 N 13' 00 "               Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Momeeeeeee,DadddyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHeeeeeeeelppppp!!!It is the attack to the SlovaksTotally instigated by MajacRafal is a total jerk IMHODont know the history but Jay seems to be the one picked uponWhat a waste of an astrology boardnow this is becoming a joke--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Amit Puri <amitpuri20 wrote:Amit Puri <amitpuri20Re: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed.sohamsa Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 9:31 PM Namskar Sanjay and sarbani jiplz do the need full.... regardAmit puri 2009/8/24 Jay Weiss <weissjay (AT) gmail (DOT) com> NO Rafal, it does not hurt as it shows how STUPID and CHILDISH you are and certainly not qualified to be an astrologer or in any position to advice other human beings. It is below my dignity to continue any further contact with you or your 'coffee waisting' protector. /Jay2009/8/24 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp..pl> Dear Jay I believe that knowledge which comes from this parampara can explain my so called mistake. Maybe you are less idealistic, your mail is too pragmatical for me and its like an excuse for being lazy bum. Sorry, if that hurts, but thats my feeling after reading it. Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze: Dear Rafal, You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth. However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of "free will" but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors. However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration', 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev: Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? June 24, 1983 Time: 18:54:24 Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10" Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze: Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. October 25, 1982 Time: 19:38:18 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00" Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Jay, INterestingly, I thought In a previous post you proclaimed your glories and expertise in astrology, and in life. Meanwhile we dont see any of brilliant astrological summeries from you, just some rants by someone who doesnt seem to be in control of themselves. Jay, Why do you waste your time and ours? If you cant offer some helpful astrological counsel , dont embarrass youself any further by showing your nasty and mean side on someone who doesnt deserve the magnitude of your hostily. Lakshmi Jay Weiss <weissjaysohamsa Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:24:10 PMRe: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed. NO Rafal, it does not hurt as it shows how STUPID and CHILDISH you are and certainly not qualified to be an astrologer or in any position to advice other human beings. It is below my dignity to continue any further contact with you or your 'coffee waisting' protector. /Jay 2009/8/24 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Dear JayI believe that knowledge which comes from this parampara can explain my so called mistake.Maybe you are less idealistic, your mail is too pragmatical for me and its like an excuse for being lazy bum.Sorry, if that hurts, but thats my feeling after reading it.Rafal GendarzJay Weiss pisze: Dear Rafal, You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth. However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of "free will" but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors. However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration', 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Rafal, Namaskar.Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now.You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev: Dear Visti, Jay,Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer.I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predictsmall periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti:Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? June 24, 1983Time: 18:54:24Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10"Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL.RegardsRafal GendarzJay Weiss pisze: Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear JyotishasNormally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart.However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. October 25, 1982Time: 19:38:18Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00" Knurow, PolandLe dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite.7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa.RegardsRafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru------------ --Consultations & Pageshttp://rohinaa. comrafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Amit Thank you for the timely alarm. I have written to them Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Amit Puri 24 August 2009 10:02 sohamsa Re: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed. Namskar Sanjay and sarbani ji plz do the need full.... regard Amit puri 2009/8/24 Jay Weiss <weissjay NO Rafal, it does not hurt as it shows how STUPID and CHILDISH you are and certainly not qualified to be an astrologer or in any position to advice other human beings. It is below my dignity to continue any further contact with you or your 'coffee waisting' protector. /Jay 2009/8/24 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme Dear Jay I believe that knowledge which comes from this parampara can explain my so called mistake. Maybe you are less idealistic, your mail is too pragmatical for me and its like an excuse for being lazy bum. Sorry, if that hurts, but thats my feeling after reading it. Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze: Dear Rafal, You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth. However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of " free will " but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors. However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration', 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev: Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? June 24, 1983 Time: 18:54:24 Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 19 E 03' 10 " , 50 N 17' 10 " Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze: Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. October 25, 1982 Time: 19:38:18 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 18 E 41' 00 " , 50 N 13' 00 " Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Freedom Any more ideas why daridra yoga dasa rasi gave opposite results? Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal Freedomji pisze:  Hare Rama Krsna  Aside from being idealistic, the understanding of a mistake is one of the best ways to learn techniques or variations of techniques, or exceptions to techniques and to find our blind spots. Guruji teaches us according to fundamental principles which can be utilized universally with the application of proper logic. The determination to find the reasoning why an event happens can only lead to learning. To falter to human tamas and think that it is impossible for ourselves to know because of fate/freewill/ignorance/inability/etc will not lead one to become devagya.  Namah Shivaya RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> sohamsa Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:30:51 PM Re: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed.  Dear Jay I believe that knowledge which comes from this parampara can explain my so called mistake. Maybe you are less idealistic, your mail is too pragmatical for me and its like an excuse for being lazy bum. Sorry, if that hurts, but thats my feeling after reading it. Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze:  Dear Rafal, You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth. However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of "free will" but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors.. However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration' , 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>  हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev:  Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? Date:         June 24, 1983 Time:         18:54:24 Time Zone:    2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10" Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze:  Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss  2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>  om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. Date:         October 25, 1982 Time:         19:38:18 Time Zone:    1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00"               Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa.. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Dear Jay I didnt mean to offence you, Ive just desrcibed the feeling related to attitude. I didnt say you are lazy bum or anything in that style. If youve took this in that context then I feel sorry. My point is that there is no place for discussing topic of free will or catching the point that astrologer is not perfect in these times whilst speaking about single rules of Jyotisha in the forum of our parampara. Rafal Gendarz Amit Puri pisze:  Namskar Sanjay  and sarbani ji plz do the need full. ... regard Amit puri 2009/8/24 Jay Weiss <weissjay (AT) gmail (DOT) com>  NO Rafal, it does not hurt as it shows how STUPID and CHILDISH you are and certainly not qualified to be an astrologer or in any position to advice other human beings. It is below my dignity to continue any further contact with you or your 'coffee waisting' protector. /Jay 2009/8/24 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>  Dear Jay I believe that knowledge which comes from this parampara can explain my so called mistake. Maybe you are less idealistic, your mail is too pragmatical for me and its like an excuse for being lazy bum. Sorry, if that hurts, but thats my feeling after reading it. Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze:  Dear Rafal, You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth. However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of "free will" but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors. However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration', 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>  हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev:  Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? Date:         June 24, 1983 Time:         18:54:24 Time Zone:    2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10" Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze:  Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss  2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>  om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. Date:         October 25, 1982 Time:         19:38:18 Time Zone:    1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00"               Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Om Gurave NamahDear Sanjay Sinha, namastePosts on this forum sometimes seem like I am stuck in "Groundhog Day" movie and reading same comments on questioning Jyotish predictions accuracy for the 263 454 291st time. If anyone has something more to add on Prasna which points to level of good or bad Karma done after birth and before approaching astrologer, Upachaya Bhavas as accessory for judging free will and Brahma Creator who is familiar with future events with 100% of accuracy, us mortals trying to reach that the best we can, then please add it. Otherwise I consider same old story "I think you are wrong, this is my opinion, but I have zero arguments to support it" as waste of time (and my precious, sacred coffee as well).As far as "Slovaks", sweetie, Slovakia is country in Central Europe (a bit more to East of Europe). I am from Serbia. Search for Mediterranean Sea (it is flushing South of Europe), try to find The Big Boot (Italy) and I am sitting on the right side from it. Okie? Rafal is from Poland. That would be direct North from Slovakia. Found it? My "personal list" is not limited on these two countries. It extends on Denmark, USA, India, Zambia, New Zealand (have I forgot someone?) and so on. It is not about country, it is about Jyotish and hours spent writing on this forum (where I picked 60% of my so far Jyotish knowledge). Holy trinity of "feeding hands" Surya (father), Chandra (Mother) and Guru (Teacher) is sacred to me (coffee comes lower downstream). Apart from my own teacher, anyone who "feeds" me with a single crumb of knowledge I consider it as mercy of Guru. If someone "bites" any of these people, I do react with unleashing my "verbal beasts". Of course, I never use "bad language". It takes skills to make someone snap without direct insulting. It also takes brain cells engagement to write something more complicated than "Jerk" (second person lacking with creativity, what is with this forum?). Anytime you need a geography lesson or advice on developing communication skills, I am here. Have a nice day, sweetie.Love and Hugs,Maja Strbac--- On Sun, 8/23/09, SANJAY SINHA <asstrolloger wrote:SANJAY SINHA <asstrollogerRe: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed.sohamsa Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 9:51 PM Momeeeeeee,Dadddyeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeHeeeeeeeelppppp! !!It is the attack to the SlovaksTotally instigated by MajacRafal is a total jerk IMHODont know the history but Jay seems to be the one picked uponWhat a waste of an astrology boardnow this is becoming a joke--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Amit Puri <amitpuri20 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:Amit Puri <amitpuri20 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: [sjc-guru] Re: tp nd failed.sohamsa@ .comSunday, August 23, 2009, 9:31 PM Namskar Sanjay and sarbani jiplz do the need full.... regardAmit puri 2009/8/24 Jay Weiss <weissjay (AT) gmail (DOT) com> NO Rafal, it does not hurt as it shows how STUPID and CHILDISH you are and certainly not qualified to be an astrologer or in any position to advice other human beings. It is below my dignity to continue any further contact with you or your 'coffee waisting' protector. /Jay2009/8/24 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp..pl> Dear Jay I believe that knowledge which comes from this parampara can explain my so called mistake. Maybe you are less idealistic, your mail is too pragmatical for me and its like an excuse for being lazy bum. Sorry, if that hurts, but thats my feeling after reading it. Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze: Dear Rafal, You, like everyone else, have the right to your opinion in any matter between heaven and earth. However, there is no way that ANY astrologer can predict 100% in every case not only due to the fact of "free will" but to the fact that the astrological knowledge in itself is not completely available to us. Therefore we may at times fail AND therefore we strive to discover those by studies, trials & errors. However, ONLY ONE conclusion counts: FACTS (i.e. statistical facts), and those are not that easy to come by. There is also the why we as astrologers must have a little more than just astrological knowledge, which in my opinion among others also include 'enlightment & inspiration' , 'excellent sense of analysis, balance & judgement', 'basic knowledge of personal psychology' and a few more. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/23 Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Paasha Yoga is one among the Nabhasa Yoga, as will be taught on your third year of Jaimini. Please ignore it for now. You have shown me a natal chart of a person whose Horesha Surya (Vishnu Avatara Sri Rama) is in the eighth house. This is a problem for finances as this is not an auspicious position from the Lagna. Think in terms of Vishnu when analysing the lord of Hora. Falling from Dharma can cause serious problems in this regard. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda. . com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com RafaÅ‚ Gendarz skrev: Dear Visti, Jay, Jay: I would not like to treat treat will as the excuse for the failed predictions. What is the use of sophisticated knowledge if it doesnt suit the fatcs? There must be some error either with method or astrologer. I didnt have 100%, but I was relying on this method for my own situations as I have been taught thats the best way to predict small periods and my experience has confirmed that.You can read my article about free will to know my view on its relation with fate. Visti: Yes this is this chakra. What is Paasha yoga? June 24, 1983 Time: 18:54:24 Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10" Here HL is in Leo, so you could also nullify all the daridras based on the dispositor of Hora Lagna, but in the Su-Su period person is really in problems financialwise. Therefore I didnt pay much attention to HL. Regards Rafal Gendarz Jay Weiss pisze: Dear Rafal, I was amazed/surprised to read your mail as it implies that other than this case you have 100% success with the combination of ND & TP, which on the other hand will seriously imply that free will does not exist. I write this NOT to offend you but to raise the question of 'methodical predictive accuracy', which here seems to be challanged to it's limit. Best regards /Jay Weiss 2009/8/22 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas Normally I was always very eager to trace the fate with Narayana dasa and TP chart. However this time it has failed totally. We know that maraka + dusthana is daridra yoga. October 25, 1982 Time: 19:38:18 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 18 E 41' 00", 50 N 13' 00" Knurow, Poland Le dasa has this yoga and should bring financial troubles when the fact was totally opposite. 7H is stronger but Lagnesh is in 7H so its still Le dasa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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