Guest guest Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 sri ganeshaya namah dear sanjayji, namaste. thanks for the mantra. will definately look into it. also,please do let us know when the mp3recordings will be available.VRA reg left and right hand to increase / decrease power of gems does not work. it has not worked for me and neither for any of my family members. so im afraid before suggesting this to my clients. however , during medititation , i recieved a ping straight from lord shiva whom i consider my guru and that theory on gemstones works amazingly well . you may choose to ignore my message , ubt i still wanted to honestly share it. as per the intuition revealed to me , gems like their planets are solely to be biased only on the basis of guna. sattwa being the highest on one side , whilst rajas and tamas being together on the other... so planets have sattwa ie sun , jup and moon and their gems will always be worn on the right hand , no matter what .. only if the natal chart permits and only if they are auspicious in nature. according to my research , planets auspiciousness can be an over riding factor in removing the blemish associated with it due to being a functional malefic. similarly a very inauspicious planet is worth no good even if is a functional benefic. similary rest of the 6 grahas viz rahu , ketu , shani , mangal , budh and shukra will always have their gems worn on the left hand... this way even your theory of brihaspati and shukra both being gurus and lording right and left hands could be somehow justified. gems can never be used to decrease any planets power , they only increase no matter what. these are my findings and im totally convinved with them... once again , if you wish to consider this , i will be most happy or else you can leave it... humble regards, chandan s sabarwal. also, just wanted to share with you that the gemstone theory given in sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath wrote: > > > > oá¹ gurave namaḥ > Dear Chandan > I use Arial Unicode and even then this problem... will try again > om parÄÅ›ara-brÄhmaṇe namaḥ > simple fonts om parashara-brahmane namah > I should start recording and uploading ...soon > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > WebPages: http://srath.com > Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com > SJC: http://.org > Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of chandan486 > 15 September 2009 13:19 > sohamsa > Re: Ramakrishna, Shiva and Abhisheka Nakshatra > > > sri ganeshaya namah > > dear sanjayji, > namaste. > > you reply is highly appreciated , but the mantras that you posted have not appeared correctly due to some font issue i guess. any solutions for that? > > also , where exactly can i find your mp3 on mantra shastra?? > > humbly, > chandan s sabarwal. > > sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > oá¹ gurave namaḥ > > > > Dear Chandan > > > > Please try *AUM ParÄÂÅ›ara-brÄÂhmaṇe namaḥ* > > > > The *Nama tattva* taught by Achyutananda uses what Narasiá¹Âha said about ParÄÂÅ›ara. The first complete sound of the name is the seed. VyÄÂsa has fist complete sound as *vyÄÂ* and to this add *aá¹Â* to get *vyÄÂá¹Â*. In this manner the nama bÄ«ja of every name can be determined. There are small deviations if the names have á¹› as in ṛṣi or kṛṣṇa then this is substituted by la. Please listen to my teachings on mantra Å›ÄÂstra. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > WebPages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com > > > > Jaimini Scholar: <http://sohamsa.com/> http://sohamsa.com > > > > SJC: <http://.org/> http://.org > > > > Jyotish Digest, Books: <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> http://sagittariuspublications.com > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of chandan486 > > 08 September 2009 11:39 > > sohamsa > > Re: Ramakrishna, Shiva and Abhisheka Nakshatra > > > > > > > > > > > > sri ganeshaya namah > > > > dear narasimha ji, > > namaste. > > > > sorry for the interruption .just wanted to know from where did you get the pam beeja and does it directly represent maharshi parashara? > > > > also , the concept of invoking maharshi parashara for a better understanding of hora shastra seems perfect to me , its just that i dont do any homams of now as i dont know how to ... > > > > could u suggest a simpler mantra to invoke the maharshi? it is only his blessings that can shows us the true picture... > > > > humbly, > > chandan s sabarwal. > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> , Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sanjay and friends, > > > > > > In your book " Brihat Nakshatra " , you said regarding Ramakrishna Paramhamsa's chart: > > > > > > " In all my years of study and tens of thousands of charts, I have never come across anything as close to this chart which represents a perfect incarnation of Lord Shiva. " > > > > > > Then you went on to talk about the " specific " form of " Shiva " shown by the chart. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > However, this is inconsistent with what Ramakrishna himself revealed and religious authorities at his time opined. > > > > > > When Ramakrishna was on death bed with cancer, Narendra (Swami Vivekananda) once thought to himself, " I will accept his divinity if he declares his divinity *now*, inspite of this sickness and suffering. " As if he detected the thought, Ramakrishna said to Narendra, " you still have doubts? He who was Rama and Krishna before is in this body now. And I do not mean it in your vedantic sense! " > > > > > > By explicitly saying that he did not mean it in the vedantic sense and referring to " He who was Rama and Krishna before " , he clearly revealed that he was an incarnation of Lord Vishnu. Ramakrishna never spoke a lie and valued truthfulness highly. The words of the realized man in question himself must be more reliable than questionable and unreliable astrological principles. > > > > > > Moreover, a couple of great religious authorities of the time studied Ramakrishna Paramahamsa in his younger days when he was being trained by Bhairavi Brahmani and saw all behavioral signs and physical marks that confirmed to them that he was an incarnation of Vishnu. They declared him to be an incarnation of Vishnu. > > > > > > Given these two facts, your conclusion cannot be correct. > > > > > > Vivekananda was inherently a jnaani. He rejected Maayaa and even called Ramakrishna's visions of various deities as hallucinations and plays of the mind. He only accepted the formless. Ramakrishna slowly created in him respect and love for Vishnu Maayaa that governs duality. Well, it takes one with purified Vishnu tattva to create respect and love for Vishnu Maayaa in one with raw Shiva tattva. Moreover, it was at the Shiva temple at Amarnath in Himalayas that Vivekananda finally realized his true nature. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > As Jupiter and Mercury are the natural guru and sishya and Jupiter is supposed to show Sadashiva and Mercury is supposed to show Vishnu, one may be tempted to theorize that Shiva is guru and Vishnu is sishya and attribute Shiva tattva to guru in a guru-sishya pair. However, that is no logic. Jupiter is not just Sadashiva, he is Jagannath too. Some of Vishnu's avataras have been the greatest gurus. Krishna is the ultimate jagadguru for his teaching of Bhagavad Gita, the greatest spiritual teaching ever. > > > > > > > Also, take the example of another illustrious guru-sishya pair from a few millennia back - Govinda Bhagavatpada and Aadi Shankara. Govinda Bhagavatpada was a highly learned and elevated master. He too had several great sishyas. His main sishya Aadi Shankara is considered an incarnation of Lord Shiva and Govinda Bhagavatpada is considered to be of Vishnu tattwa. > > > > > > If one says that Govinda Bhagavatpada must have had an amsha of Shiva (Jupiter) because he was the guru and that Aadi Shankara must have had an amsha of Vishnu (Mercury) because he was the sishya, that would be no logic at all! Shiva himself said that he would be born as Aadi Shankara. > > > > > > Actually, given the parallels between the lives of Aadi Shankara and Vivekananda, it is possible that Vivekananda was a re-incarnation of Aadi Shankara. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > Abhisheka Nakshatra Principle > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > You said in the same book that abhisheka nakshatra's lord (as per Vimsottari dasa lordship) being AK is the " first indication of a high level soul having incarnated " . You use the charts of Ramakrishna and Vivekananda and a questionable chart of Lord Krishna to justify it. > > > > > > However, there are many exampsles like Sarada Mata, Ramana Maharshi, Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati, Srila Prabhupada and Swami Sivananda, which do not satisfy the criterion. All of them are definitely " high level souls having incarnated " . > > > > > > Moreover, it is questionable to have such an important formula based on " vimsottari lordships " , which is just a star-planet mapping for one specific dasa scheme among many, as taught by Parasara. Secondly, the space of Vimsottari lord of abhisheka nakshtra contains nine planets, while the space of chara karakas contains eight planets. A formula based on equating them is mixing up two unequal sets. That is illogical. Moreover, this formula fails in many examples and works in just two (third example is based on questionable data). Thus, it sounds like a formula constructed based on an observation which was made based on just 2-3 charts. > > > > > > Any genuine formula should work in a far higher percentage of applicable charts. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > I tried to find some reasonable and logical criterion based on abhisheka nakshatra to find initial indications of a potential for liberation, that works in all the charts I mentioned above. I was unsuccessful. Each formula works in some and fails in some. The example charts I chose are all unquestionably very high caliber spiritual people. > > > > > > After my failure, I bowed to Maharshi Parasara after a daily Chandi homam and prayed to him to kindly show me a criterion based on abhisheka nakshatra that works in a higher percentage of applicable charts. The formula that was given to me is this: " The abhisheka nakshatra - the 28th nakshatra - reckoned from chara aatma kaaraka has aspect or vedha in sarvatobhadra chakra (SBC) from a planet that is also associated with (a) the 12th house from chara aatma kaaraka in D-20 chart and (b) 5th or 9th house from lagna in rasi chart. If chara aatma kaaraka is Rahu, counting of the 28th star in SBC as well as counting of the 12th house in D-20 is in anti-zodiacal order. " > > > > > > The D-20 is the chart of spiritual progress. The 12th house from AK in it shows the liberation of individual soul as one progresses spiritually. Similarly, SBC is the chakra in the nakshatra space and abhisheka (28th) nakshatra from AK in it shows liberation of soul in the nakshatra space. Planet having an influence on both the factors supports spiritual liberation. The 5th and 9th from lagna show poorvapunya and bhagya. If the same planet influences all the three factors, that planet can suggest liberation. The reverse counting from Rahu is because Rahu goes in reverse. Even when defining argala, Parasara asked to reckon argalas and virodha argalas based on houses from Rahu and Ketu in anti-zodiacal order. > > > > > > Thus, we are finding a planetary influence that brings poorvapunya and bhagya (5th and 9th) to this specific existence (lagna) and promotes liberation (12th house/28th star) of individual soul (AK) in the conscious mental plane (SBC) and the plane of spiritual activity (D-20). > > > > > > Please note that this formula does not use Vimsottari dasa lordships. It uses nakshatra chakra (SBC) for nakshatras and D-20 for rasis. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > When the formula came to me, I tried it on the charts of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Sarada Mata, Swami Vivekananda, Ramana Maharshi, Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati, Srila Prabhupada, Swami Sivananda. It worked in all the charts. > > > > > > Sarada Mata's AK is Moon. He is in Uttara Phalguni. The 28th star from him is Poorva Phalguni. It has vedha only from Mars. In D-20, Moon is in Ta and the 12th lord from him is Mars. In rasi, Mars is the 5th lord. > > > > > > Ramakrishna's AK is Rahu. He is in Krittika. The 28th star from him counted anti-zodiacally is Rohini. It has vedha in SBC only from Saturn. In D-20, Rahu is in Cp and the 12th house counted anti-zodiacally is Aq. Saturn owns it. In rasi, Saturn occupies the 9th house. > > > > > > Vivekananda's AK is Sun. He is in Uttarashadha. The 28t star from him is Poorvashadha. It has vedha in SBC only from Moon and Saturn. In D-20, Sun is in Pi and Saturn is the 12th lord from him. In rasi, Saturn occupies the 9th house. > > > > > > Ramana Maharashi's AK is Moon. He is in Punarvasu. The 28th star from him is Ardra. It has vedha from Sun and Rahu and aspect from Jupiter in SBC. In D-20, Moon is in Aq and Jupiter and Rahu aspect Cp. In rasi, Jupiter occupies the 5th house. > > > > > > Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati's AK is Saturn. He is in Chitra. The 28th star from him is Hasta. It has vedha from Rahu and Ketu and aspect from Jupiter in SBC. In D-20, Saturn is in Cp and Jupiter owns the 12th while Rahu and Ketu aspect it. In rasi, Jupiter owns 5th and occupies 9th. > > > > > > Srila Prabhupada's AK is Rahu. He is in Dhanishtha. The 28th star from him is Satabhishak. It has no vedha in SBC, but Sun aspects it. In D-20, Rahu is in Sg. The 12th from him reckoned anti-zodiacally is Cp and Sun aspects it. In rasi, Sun is the 9th lord. > > > > > > Swami Sivananda's AK is Sun. He is in Poorva Phalguni. The 28th star from him is Magha. It has vedha from Moon and Rahu in SBC and Saturn aspects it. In D-20, Sun is in Pi. The 12th from him is Aq. Saturn and Rahu own it and Moon aspects it. In rasi, Moon is lagna lord in 9th house. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > Maharshis who overcame the concept of Time and space-time continuum when living here in a body can bless us even after they leave earth. To those of you who do any kind of homam daily or weekly and want to surrender to Parasara and get some blessings from him, I suggest making 4 or 8 or 12 aahutis (oblations) of ghee at the beginning of uttaraangam while saying one of the following: > > > > > > daivavidbhyo varaM viGYaM shaktiputraM munIshvaraM > > > horaa shaastra pravaktaaraM paraasharaM namaamyahaM. svaahaa. paraasharaayedaM na mama. > > > > > > or > > > > > > om pam paraasharaaya namaH svaahaa. paraasharaayedaM na mama. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------- > > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > > > Spirituality: > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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