Guest guest Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Dear all,As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min.This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology.Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme.From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma,19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme.When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra.5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari.The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra.Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration.and theyshould not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme.Regards,G. K. Goel address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile: 09350311433 Try the new India Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Goel sahib That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄrÄ is very important – Consider a native having the Moon at 11th degree of Capricorn. In the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄrÄ is ÅšrÄvaṇa [22] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let us say we have Jupiter in 9th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄrÄ [Last, moká¹£a tÄrÄ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄrÄ is the one who will give rÄjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One whose association will be the blessing of Lord Åšiva ~hence Rudra abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel 04 October 2009 19:11 P.V.R. Narasimha Rao Cc: astrologyandremedies ; vedic astrology ; sohamsa 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes Dear all, As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma, 19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration.and they should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. Regards, G. K. Goel address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile: 09350311433 __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Param Guru Sanjay-ji, Apologies for budging in. The example sited by you is extremely apt. Jupiter in 9 Deg Capricorn would surely be in Abhishekha (Abhijit) nakshtra in 28 scheme and if we use SBC we would have to stick to this. However, you are also correct in saying that it would be in Janma nakshatra in Uttarashad in the 27-scheme. However, wouldn't this (27-scheme) be of use only in predictive Dasa analysis? Would such a native be free like bird with Jupiter in Abhishekha in reality? Please do enlighten us. Regards Souvik sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath wrote: > > oá¹ gurave namaḥ > > Dear Goel sahib > > That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄrÄ is very important †" > > Consider a native having the Moon at 11th degree of Capricorn. In the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄrÄ is ÅšrÄvaṇa [22] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let us say we have Jupiter in 9th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. > > The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄrÄ [Last, moká¹£a tÄrÄ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄrÄ is the one who will give rÄjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One whose association will be the blessing of Lord Åšiva ~hence Rudra abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > WebPages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com > > Jaimini Scholar: <http://sohamsa.com/> http://sohamsa.com > > SJC: <http://.org/> http://.org > > Jyotish Digest, Books: <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> http://sagittariuspublications.com > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel > 04 October 2009 19:11 > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao > Cc: astrologyandremedies ; vedic astrology ; sohamsa > 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes > > > > > > Dear all, > As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . > and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. > This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. > > Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. > > From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma, > 19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. > > When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 > nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. > 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. > The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. > > Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration.and they > should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. > Regards, > > > G. K. Goel > > address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 > tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, > mobile: 09350311433 > > > > __ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Souvik You are calculating the whole thing wrongly and are suggesting things in the reverse! Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra in 27 scheme is from last pada of Sagittarius (26deg 40 min) to 10 degrees of Capricorn. Therefore in the example cited by me, Jupiter at 9 degrees of Capricorn would be in Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra in 27 scheme In 28 naká¹£atra scheme, the last pada of Uttara ÄsÄá¸ha would be a part of Abhijit naká¹£atra i.e. Uttara ÄsÄá¸ha ends at 6 deg 40’of Capricorn and Abhijit naká¹£atra starts from 6deg 40’ Cp. Abhijit extends into 1/15th part of ÅšrÄvaṇa naká¹£atra initial portion = 0deg 53min 20 sec ===== example used ============= Take Moon at 10 deg 40’Cp and Jup at 9 deg 2 min ...say Then both will be in Abhijit naká¹£atra in 28 naká¹£atra scheme However in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme, Moon will be in ÅšrÄvaṇa and Jupiter will be in Uttara ÄsÄá¸ha. AbhiÅ›eka is a special condition for naká¹£atras and is not the name of any naká¹£atra. It is the last naká¹£atra and gives results like Pisces, the moká¹£a mÄrga. It is like RevatÄ« in its behaviour and has the nada (sound) of the vina of SarasvatÄ« – it is the music of the Vedas... Now come back to our example à Jupiter is placed in the abhiÅ›eka naká¹£atra from the Moon (Janma tÄrÄ) if we use the 27 naká¹£atra scheme. However, if we use the 28 naká¹£atra scheme Jupiter is placed in the Janma tÄrÄ itself. =========================== This is just one issue. Umpteen other issues crop up when you use 28 scheme instead of 27 scheme. When to use one instead of anohter is one thing, and how to use one over another is another thing ... all that only when we have amply mastered the schemes and know the difference in the *real meanings* of the special naká¹£atra. I have given the detailed meanings and have shown the usage of the special naká¹£atra pertaining to the 27 naká¹£atra scheme in the book Bá¹›hat Naká¹£atra Vol.1 Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Souvik Dutta 05 October 2009 09:15 sohamsa Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes Param Guru Sanjay-ji, Apologies for budging in. The example sited by you is extremely apt. Jupiter in 9 Deg Capricorn would surely be in Abhishekha (Abhijit) nakshtra in 28 scheme and if we use SBC we would have to stick to this. However, you are also correct in saying that it would be in Janma nakshatra in Uttarashad in the 27-scheme. However, wouldn't this (27-scheme) be of use only in predictive Dasa analysis? Would such a native be free like bird with Jupiter in Abhishekha in reality? Please do enlighten us. Regards Souvik sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath wrote: > > oá¹ gurave namaḥ > > Dear Goel sahib > > That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄÂrÄ is very important †" > > Consider a native having the Moon at 11th degree of Capricorn. In the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄÂrÄ is Ã…Å¡rÄÂvaṇa [22] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let us say we have Jupiter in 9th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara Ä€sÄÂá¸Âha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. > > The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄÂrÄ [Last, moká¹£a tÄÂrÄÂ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄÂrÄ is the one who will give rÄÂjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One whose association will be the blessing of Lord Ã…Å¡iva ~hence Rudra abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > WebPages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com > > Jaimini Scholar: <http://sohamsa.com/> http://sohamsa.com > > SJC: <http://.org/> http://.org > > Jyotish Digest, Books: <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> http://sagittariuspublications.com > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel > 04 October 2009 19:11 > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao > Cc: astrologyandremedies ; vedic astrology ; sohamsa > 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes > > > > > > Dear all, > As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . > and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. > This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. > > Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. > > From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma, > 19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. > > When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 > nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. > 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. > The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. > > Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration.and they > should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. > Regards, > > > G. K. Goel > > address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 > tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, > mobile: 09350311433 > > > > __ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 hraum krishnaya namah Dear Guruji, Regarding Abhiseka: Normally yoga which gives raja and that which gives moksha are not the same but opposite like agni and water In your description Abhiseka gives raja yoga and moksha From my notes from your book I noted: blessing from God, oblation to Deities, guru of moksa; coronation; PD brouoght divine blessings; mental point of connecting to ishta deva How to see rajayoga from that Nakshatra? Just the Vimshottari Lord must be strong and wellplaced? Does this favour moksha also? How to make distinctions? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme Sanjay Rath pisze:  oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Goel sahib That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄrÄ is very important – Consider a native having the Moon at 11th degree of Capricorn. In the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄrÄ is ÅšrÄvaṇa [22] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let us say we have Jupiter in 9th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄrÄ [Last, moká¹£a tÄrÄ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄrÄ is the one who will give rÄjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One whose association will be the blessing of Lord Åšiva ~hence Rudra abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com  sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel 04 October 2009 19:11 P.V.R. Narasimha Rao Cc: astrologyandremedies ; vedic astrology ; sohamsa 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes   Dear all, As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. >From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma, 19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration.and they should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. Regards, G. K. Goel  address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 tel:       011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile:  09350311433  __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Param Guru Sanjay-ji, Thank you very much for the explanation. The knowledge pearl shared is the underlying meaning of Abhishekha, which is just like Revati in its behavior and like the nada of the veena of Saraswati plays the music of the Vedas! Beautiful! Regards Souvik sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath wrote: > > oá¹ gurave namaḥ > > Dear Souvik > > You are calculating the whole thing wrongly and are suggesting things in the reverse! > > Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra in 27 scheme is from last pada of Sagittarius (26deg 40 min) to 10 degrees of Capricorn. Therefore in the example cited by me, Jupiter at 9 degrees of Capricorn would be in Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra in 27 scheme > > In 28 naká¹£atra scheme, the last pada of Uttara ÄsÄá¸ha would be a part of Abhijit naká¹£atra i.e. Uttara ÄsÄá¸ha ends at 6 deg 40’of Capricorn and Abhijit naká¹£atra starts from 6deg 40’ Cp. Abhijit extends into 1/15th part of ÅšrÄvaṇa naká¹£atra initial portion = 0deg 53min 20 sec > > ===== example used ============= > > Take Moon at 10 deg 40’Cp and Jup at 9 deg 2 min ...say > > Then both will be in Abhijit naká¹£atra in 28 naká¹£atra scheme > > However in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme, Moon will be in ÅšrÄvaṇa and Jupiter will be in Uttara ÄsÄá¸ha. > > > > AbhiÅ›eka is a special condition for naká¹£atras and is not the name of any naká¹£atra. It is the last naká¹£atra and gives results like Pisces, the moká¹£a mÄrga. It is like RevatÄ« in its behaviour and has the nada (sound) of the vina of SarasvatÄ« †" it is the music of the Vedas... > > > > Now come back to our example à Jupiter is placed in the abhiÅ›eka naká¹£atra from the Moon (Janma tÄrÄ) if we use the 27 naká¹£atra scheme. However, if we use the 28 naká¹£atra scheme Jupiter is placed in the Janma tÄrÄ itself. > > =========================== > > This is just one issue. Umpteen other issues crop up when you use 28 scheme instead of 27 scheme. When to use one instead of anohter is one thing, and how to use one over another is another thing ... all that only when we have amply mastered the schemes and know the difference in the *real meanings* of the special naká¹£atra. I have given the detailed meanings and have shown the usage of the special naká¹£atra pertaining to the 27 naká¹£atra scheme in the book Bá¹›hat Naká¹£atra Vol.1 > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > WebPages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com > > Jaimini Scholar: <http://sohamsa.com/> http://sohamsa.com > > SJC: <http://.org/> http://.org > > Jyotish Digest, Books: <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> http://sagittariuspublications.com > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Souvik Dutta > 05 October 2009 09:15 > sohamsa > Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes > > > > > > Param Guru Sanjay-ji, > > Apologies for budging in. > > The example sited by you is extremely apt. > > Jupiter in 9 Deg Capricorn would surely be in Abhishekha (Abhijit) nakshtra in 28 scheme and if we use SBC we would have to stick to this. > > However, you are also correct in saying that it would be in Janma nakshatra in Uttarashad in the 27-scheme. However, wouldn't this (27-scheme) be of use only in predictive Dasa analysis? > > Would such a native be free like bird with Jupiter in Abhishekha in reality? > > Please do enlighten us. > > Regards > > Souvik > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath@> wrote: > > > > oá¹ gurave namaḥ > > > > Dear Goel sahib > > > > That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄÂrÄ is very important †" > > > > Consider a native having the Moon at 11th degree of Capricorn. In the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄÂrÄ is Ã…Å¡rÄÂvaṇa [22] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let us say we have Jupiter in 9th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara Ä€sÄÂá¸Âha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. > > > > The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄÂrÄ [Last, moká¹£a tÄÂrÄÂ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄÂrÄ is the one who will give rÄÂjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One whose association will be the blessing of Lord Ã…Å¡iva ~hence Rudra abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > WebPages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com > > > > Jaimini Scholar: <http://sohamsa.com/> http://sohamsa.com > > > > SJC: <http://.org/> http://.org > > > > Jyotish Digest, Books: <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> http://sagittariuspublications.com > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> [sohamsa <sohamsa%40> ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel > > 04 October 2009 19:11 > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao > > Cc: astrologyandremedies <astrologyandremedies%40> ; vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40> ; sohamsa > > 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . > > and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. > > This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. > > > > Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. > > > > From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma, > > 19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. > > > > When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 > > nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. > > 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. > > The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. > > > > Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration.and they > > should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. > > Regards, > > > > > > G. K. Goel > > > > address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 > > tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, > > mobile: 09350311433 > > > > > > > > __ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Rafal You have a very good question about RÄjayoga. To understand this in depth, read a book first called RÄjayoga by Swami Vivekananda. You see both the biggest King and the biggest Sadhu are called MahÄrÄja ... the roads meet at the top. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 05 October 2009 15:59 sohamsa Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes hraum krishnaya namah Dear Guruji, Regarding Abhiseka: Normally yoga which gives raja and that which gives moksha are not the same but opposite like agni and water In your description Abhiseka gives raja yoga and moksha From my notes from your book I noted: blessing from God, oblation to Deities, guru of moksa; coronation; PD brouoght divine blessings; mental point of connecting to ishta deva How to see rajayoga from that Nakshatra? Just the Vimshottari Lord must be strong and wellplaced? Does this favour moksha also? How to make distinctions? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme Sanjay Rath pisze: oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Goel sahib That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄrÄ is very important – Consider a native having the Moon at 11th degree of Capricorn. In the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄrÄ is ÅšrÄvaṇa [22] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let us say we have Jupiter in 9th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄrÄ [Last, moká¹£a tÄrÄ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄrÄ is the one who will give rÄjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One whose association will be the blessing of Lord Åšiva ~hence Rudra abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel 04 October 2009 19:11 P.V.R. Narasimha Rao Cc: astrologyandremedies ; vedic astrology ; sohamsa 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes Dear all, As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. >From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma, 19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration.and they should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. Regards, G. K. Goel address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile: 09350311433 __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 hraum krishnaya namah Dear Sanjayji I cant afford this book now. Could you explain this here? What you mean by roads meet there? Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was rejecting king association due to material pollutions. Also rajayogis avoid spiritualists (seeing sadhu is bad omen per some classics from material perspective) due to their 'material laziness'. So top head on this world see spiritualists as beggars and unsuccesful people, whilst spirtiualist see them trapped in maya. Day and night...Bhagavad Gita. Now going back to Jyotish: How to see rajayoga or moksha from abhisekha. Could you give some more than in your book here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme Sanjay Rath pisze:    oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Rafal You have a very good question about RÄjayoga. To understand this in depth, read a book first called RÄjayoga by Swami Vivekananda. You see both the biggest King and the biggest Sadhu are called MahÄrÄja ... the roads meet at the top. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com  sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 05 October 2009 15:59 sohamsa Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes   hraum krishnaya namah Dear Guruji, Regarding Abhiseka: Normally yoga which gives raja and that which gives moksha are not the same but opposite like agni and water In your description Abhiseka gives raja yoga and moksha From my notes from your book I noted: blessing from God, oblation to Deities, guru of moksa; coronation; PD brouoght divine blessings; mental point of connecting to ishta deva How to see rajayoga from that Nakshatra? Just the Vimshottari Lord must be strong and wellplaced? Does this favour moksha also? How to make distinctions? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl Sanjay Rath pisze:  oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Goel sahib That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄrÄ is very important – Consider a native having the Moon at 11th degree of Capricorn. In the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄrÄ is ÅšrÄvaṇa [22] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let us say we have Jupiter in 9th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄrÄ [Last, moká¹£a tÄrÄ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄrÄ is the one who will give rÄjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One whose association will be the blessing of Lord Åšiva ~hence Rudra abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com  sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel 04 October 2009 19:11 P.V.R. Narasimha Rao Cc: astrologyandremedies ; vedic astrology ; sohamsa 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes   Dear all, As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. >From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma, 19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration.and they should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. Regards, G. K. Goel  address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 tel:       011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile:  09350311433  __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 || Om Gurave NAmah ||Dear Rafal, This book said to be in public domain now. Here is a link http://www.scribd.com/doc/395573/Raja-Yoga-by-Swami-Vivekananda- Warm Regards,Sanjay P2009/10/5 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme hraum krishnaya namah Dear Sanjayji I cant afford this book now. Could you explain this here? What you mean by roads meet there? Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was rejecting king association due to material pollutions. Also rajayogis avoid spiritualists (seeing sadhu is bad omen per some classics from material perspective) due to their 'material laziness'. So top head on this world see spiritualists as beggars and unsuccesful people, whilst spirtiualist see them trapped in maya. Day and night...Bhagavad Gita. Now going back to Jyotish: How to see rajayoga or moksha from abhisekha. Could you give some more than in your book here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme Sanjay Rath pisze:    oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Rafal You have a very good question about RÄjayoga. To understand this in depth, read a book first called RÄjayoga by Swami Vivekananda. You see both the biggest King and the biggest Sadhu are called MahÄrÄja ... the roads meet at the top. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com  sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 05 October 2009 15:59 sohamsa Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes   hraum krishnaya namah Dear Guruji, Regarding Abhiseka: Normally yoga which gives raja and that which gives moksha are not the same but opposite like agni and water In your description Abhiseka gives raja yoga and moksha From my notes from your book I noted: blessing from God, oblation to Deities, guru of moksa; coronation; PD brouoght divine blessings; mental point of connecting to ishta deva How to see rajayoga from that Nakshatra? Just the Vimshottari Lord must be strong and wellplaced? Does this favour moksha also? How to make distinctions? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme Sanjay Rath pisze:  oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Goel sahib That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄrÄ is very important – Consider a native having the Moon at 11th degree of Capricorn. In the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄrÄ is ÅšrÄvaṇa [22] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let us say we have Jupiter in 9th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄrÄ [Last, moká¹£a tÄrÄ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄrÄ is the one who will give rÄjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One whose association will be the blessing of Lord Åšiva ~hence Rudra abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com  sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel 04 October 2009 19:11 P.V.R. Narasimha Rao Cc: astrologyandremedies ; vedic astrology ; sohamsa 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes   Dear all, As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. >From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma, 19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration.and they should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. Regards, G. K. Goel  address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 tel:       011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile:  09350311433  __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal, http://www.vivekananda.net/PDFBooks/RajaYoga1899.pdfEnjoy! Regards,Maja--- On Mon, 10/5/09, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemessohamsa Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 5:23 AM hraum krishnaya namah Dear Sanjayji I cant afford this book now. Could you explain this here? What you mean by roads meet there? Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was rejecting king association due to material pollutions. Also rajayogis avoid spiritualists (seeing sadhu is bad omen per some classics from material perspective) due to their 'material laziness'. So top head on this world see spiritualists as beggars and unsuccesful people, whilst spirtiualist see them trapped in maya. Day and night...Bhagavad Gita. Now going back to Jyotish: How to see rajayoga or moksha from abhisekha. Could you give some more than in your book here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com starsuponme@ wp.pl Sanjay Rath pisze: oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Rafal You have a very good question about RÄjayoga. To understand this in depth, read a book first called RÄjayoga by Swami Vivekananda. You see both the biggest King and the biggest Sadhu are called MahÄrÄja ... the roads meet at the top. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath. com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa. com SJC: http:// .org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariusp ublications. com sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 05 October 2009 15:59 sohamsa@ .com Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes hraum krishnaya namah Dear Guruji, Regarding Abhiseka: Normally yoga which gives raja and that which gives moksha are not the same but opposite like agni and water In your description Abhiseka gives raja yoga and moksha From my notes from your book I noted: blessing from God, oblation to Deities, guru of moksa; coronation; PD brouoght divine blessings; mental point of connecting to ishta deva How to see rajayoga from that Nakshatra? Just the Vimshottari Lord must be strong and wellplaced? Does this favour moksha also? How to make distinctions? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com starsuponme@ wp.pl Sanjay Rath pisze: oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Goel sahib That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄrÄ is very important – Consider a native having the Moon at 11th degree of Capricorn. In the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄrÄ is ÅšrÄvaṇa [22] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let us say we have Jupiter in 9th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄrÄ [Last, moká¹£a tÄrÄ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄrÄ is the one who will give rÄjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One whose association will be the blessing of Lord Åšiva ~hence Rudra abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath. com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa. com SJC: http:// .org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariusp ublications. com sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel 04 October 2009 19:11 P.V.R. Narasimha Rao Cc: astrologyandremedie s ; vedic astrology; sohamsa 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes Dear all, As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. >From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th- Pratyari, 7th-Vadha, 10th-Karma, 19th-Adhana, 22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration. and they should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. Regards, G. K. Goel address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile: 09350311433 __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Rafal, Ramakrishna Mission sells it for some Rs.50 or 60 I think. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org RafaÅ‚ Gendarz [starsuponme] 05 October 2009 17:53 sohamsa Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes hraum krishnaya namah Dear Sanjayji I cant afford this book now. Could you explain this here? What you mean by roads meet there? Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was rejecting king association due to material pollutions. Also rajayogis avoid spiritualists (seeing sadhu is bad omen per some classics from material perspective) due to their 'material laziness'. So top head on this world see spiritualists as beggars and unsuccesful people, whilst spirtiualist see them trapped in maya. Day and night...Bhagavad Gita. Now going back to Jyotish: How to see rajayoga or moksha from abhisekha. Could you give some more than in your book here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme Sanjay Rath pisze: oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Rafal You have a very good question about RÄjayoga. To understand this in depth, read a book first called RÄjayoga by Swami Vivekananda. You see both the biggest King and the biggest Sadhu are called MahÄrÄja ... the roads meet at the top. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 05 October 2009 15:59 sohamsa Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes hraum krishnaya namah Dear Guruji, Regarding Abhiseka: Normally yoga which gives raja and that which gives moksha are not the same but opposite like agni and water In your description Abhiseka gives raja yoga and moksha From my notes from your book I noted: blessing from God, oblation to Deities, guru of moksa; coronation; PD brouoght divine blessings; mental point of connecting to ishta deva How to see rajayoga from that Nakshatra? Just the Vimshottari Lord must be strong and wellplaced? Does this favour moksha also? How to make distinctions? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme Sanjay Rath pisze: oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Goel sahib That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄrÄ is very important – Consider a native having the Moon at 11th degree of Capricorn. In the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄrÄ is ÅšrÄvaṇa [22] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let us say we have Jupiter in 9th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄrÄ [Last, moká¹£a tÄrÄ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄrÄ is the one who will give rÄjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One whose association will be the blessing of Lord Åšiva ~hence Rudra abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel 04 October 2009 19:11 P.V.R. Narasimha Rao Cc: astrologyandremedies ; vedic astrology ; sohamsa 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes Dear all, As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. >From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma, 19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration.and they should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. Regards, G. K. Goel address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile: 09350311433 __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Dear Sanjay & Maja Thank you! Regards Rafal Gendarz Maja Å trbac pisze:  Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, http://www.vivekananda.net/PDFBooks/RajaYoga1899.pdf Enjoy! Regards, Maja --- On Mon, 10/5/09, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes sohamsa Monday, October 5, 2009, 5:23 AM  hraum krishnaya namah Dear Sanjayji I cant afford this book now. Could you explain this here? What you mean by roads meet there? Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was rejecting king association due to material pollutions. Also rajayogis avoid spiritualists (seeing sadhu is bad omen per some classics from material perspective) due to their 'material laziness'. So top head on this world see spiritualists as beggars and unsuccesful people, whilst spirtiualist see them trapped in maya. Day and night...Bhagavad Gita. Now going back to Jyotish: How to see rajayoga or moksha from abhisekha. Could you give some more than in your book here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com starsuponme@ wp.pl Sanjay Rath pisze:    oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Rafal You have a very good question about RÄjayoga. To understand this in depth, read a book first called RÄjayoga by Swami Vivekananda. You see both the biggest King and the biggest Sadhu are called MahÄrÄja ... the roads meet at the top. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath. com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa. com SJC: http:// ..org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariusp ublications. com  sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 05 October 2009 15:59 sohamsa@ .com Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes   hraum krishnaya namah Dear Guruji, Regarding Abhiseka: Normally yoga which gives raja and that which gives moksha are not the same but opposite like agni and water In your description Abhiseka gives raja yoga and moksha From my notes from your book I noted: blessing from God, oblation to Deities, guru of moksa; coronation; PD brouoght divine blessings; mental point of connecting to ishta deva How to see rajayoga from that Nakshatra? Just the Vimshottari Lord must be strong and wellplaced? Does this favour moksha also? How to make distinctions? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com starsuponme@ wp.pl Sanjay Rath pisze:  oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Goel sahib That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄrÄ is very important – Consider a native having the Moon at 11th degree of Capricorn. In the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄrÄ is ÅšrÄvaṇa [22] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let us say we have Jupiter in 9th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄrÄ [Last, moká¹£a tÄrÄ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄrÄ is the one who will give rÄjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One whose association will be the blessing of Lord Åšiva ~hence Rudra abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath. com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa. com SJC: http:// .org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariusp ublications. com  sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel 04 October 2009 19:11 P.V.R. Narasimha Rao Cc: astrologyandremedie s ; vedic astrology@ . com; sohamsa 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes   Dear all, As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. >From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th- Pratyari, 7th-Vadha, 10th-Karma, 19th-Adhana, 22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration. and they should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. Regards, G. K. 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Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Rafal In India there is a difference between Raja and MahÄrÄja ... in english it is like King and Emperor Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 05 October 2009 17:53 sohamsa Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes hraum krishnaya namah Dear Sanjayji I cant afford this book now. Could you explain this here? What you mean by roads meet there? Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was rejecting king association due to material pollutions. Also rajayogis avoid spiritualists (seeing sadhu is bad omen per some classics from material perspective) due to their 'material laziness'. So top head on this world see spiritualists as beggars and unsuccesful people, whilst spirtiualist see them trapped in maya. Day and night...Bhagavad Gita. Now going back to Jyotish: How to see rajayoga or moksha from abhisekha. Could you give some more than in your book here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme Sanjay Rath pisze: oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Rafal You have a very good question about RÄjayoga. To understand this in depth, read a book first called RÄjayoga by Swami Vivekananda. You see both the biggest King and the biggest Sadhu are called MahÄrÄja ... the roads meet at the top. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 05 October 2009 15:59 sohamsa Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes hraum krishnaya namah Dear Guruji, Regarding Abhiseka: Normally yoga which gives raja and that which gives moksha are not the same but opposite like agni and water In your description Abhiseka gives raja yoga and moksha From my notes from your book I noted: blessing from God, oblation to Deities, guru of moksa; coronation; PD brouoght divine blessings; mental point of connecting to ishta deva How to see rajayoga from that Nakshatra? Just the Vimshottari Lord must be strong and wellplaced? Does this favour moksha also? How to make distinctions? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme Sanjay Rath pisze: oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Goel sahib That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄrÄ is very important – Consider a native having the Moon at 11th degree of Capricorn. In the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄrÄ is ÅšrÄvaṇa [22] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let us say we have Jupiter in 9th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄrÄ [Last, moká¹£a tÄrÄ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄrÄ is the one who will give rÄjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One whose association will be the blessing of Lord Åšiva ~hence Rudra abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel 04 October 2009 19:11 P.V.R. Narasimha Rao Cc: astrologyandremedies ; vedic astrology ; sohamsa 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes Dear all, As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. >From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma, 19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration.and they should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. Regards, G. K. 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Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 hraum krishnaya namah Dear Sarbani, Thank you but I wanted only to know the simple question. Do I need to buy non-jyotish books which I doesnt find interesting to get jyotishwise simple answer? Sanjayji said its Maharaja and Raja, but Parasara also defines Maharaja yogas (parivartana between udaya and putra bhavas). I am still confused and the answer is nowhere else Sanjayjis mind. Ok, its our karma on the forums. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme Sarbani Rath pisze:  Hare Rama Krishna Dear Rafal, Ramakrishna Mission sells it for some Rs.50 or 60 I think. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org  RafaÅ‚ Gendarz [starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl] 05 October 2009 17:53 sohamsa Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes   hraum krishnaya namah Dear Sanjayji I cant afford this book now. Could you explain this here? What you mean by roads meet there? Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was rejecting king association due to material pollutions. Also rajayogis avoid spiritualists (seeing sadhu is bad omen per some classics from material perspective) due to their 'material laziness'. So top head on this world see spiritualists as beggars and unsuccesful people, whilst spirtiualist see them trapped in maya. Day and night...Bhagavad Gita. Now going back to Jyotish: How to see rajayoga or moksha from abhisekha. Could you give some more than in your book here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl Sanjay Rath pisze:    oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Rafal You have a very good question about RÄjayoga. To understand this in depth, read a book first called RÄjayoga by Swami Vivekananda. You see both the biggest King and the biggest Sadhu are called MahÄrÄja ... the roads meet at the top. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com  sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 05 October 2009 15:59 sohamsa Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes   hraum krishnaya namah Dear Guruji, Regarding Abhiseka: Normally yoga which gives raja and that which gives moksha are not the same but opposite like agni and water In your description Abhiseka gives raja yoga and moksha From my notes from your book I noted: blessing from God, oblation to Deities, guru of moksa; coronation; PD brouoght divine blessings; mental point of connecting to ishta deva How to see rajayoga from that Nakshatra? Just the Vimshottari Lord must be strong and wellplaced? Does this favour moksha also? How to make distinctions? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl Sanjay Rath pisze:  oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Goel sahib That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄrÄ is very important – Consider a native having the Moon at 11th degree of Capricorn. In the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄrÄ is ÅšrÄvaṇa [22] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let us say we have Jupiter in 9th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄrÄ [Last, moká¹£a tÄrÄ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄrÄ is the one who will give rÄjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One whose association will be the blessing of Lord Åšiva ~hence Rudra abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com  sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel 04 October 2009 19:11 P.V.R. Narasimha Rao Cc: astrologyandremedies ; vedic astrology ; sohamsa 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes   Dear all, As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. >From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma, 19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration.and they should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. Regards, G. K. Goel  address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 tel:       011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile:  09350311433  __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Namaskaar All, Reading the discussions of this thread, i am reminded of some initiations given in some (maybe all) spiritual traditions and lineages. these are called Abhisheka Deeksha. There are multiple deekshas of these kind and also some particular order to them. One of them is Rajyaabhisheka Deeksha and another is called Maharajyabhisheka Deeksha. References to these can be found in the Sri vidya traditions. vivek sohamsa , RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > /*hraum krishnaya namah*/ > Dear Sarbani, > > Thank you but I wanted only to know the simple question. Do I need to > buy non-jyotish books which I doesnt find interesting to get jyotishwise > simple answer? > > Sanjayji said its Maharaja and Raja, but Parasara also defines Maharaja > yogas (parivartana between udaya and putra bhavas). I am still confused > and the answer is nowhere else Sanjayjis mind. > > Ok, its our karma on the forums. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > -------------- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > starsuponme / > > Sarbani Rath pisze: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Ramakrishna Mission sells it for some Rs.50 or 60 I think. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani Rath > > > > Homepage: http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > > > Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com > > <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> > > > > Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com <http://sohamsa.com/> > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org <http://.org/> > > > > > > > > ** RafaÅ‚ Gendarz [starsuponme] > > *Sent:* 05 October 2009 17:53 > > *To:* sohamsa > > *Subject:* Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes > > > > > > > > > > > > */hraum krishnaya namah/* > > Dear Sanjayji > > > > I cant afford this book now. > > Could you explain this here? > > What you mean by roads meet there? Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was > > rejecting king association due to material pollutions. > > Also rajayogis avoid spiritualists (seeing sadhu is bad omen per some > > classics from material perspective) due to their 'material laziness'. > > So top head on this world see spiritualists as beggars and unsuccesful > > people, whilst spirtiualist see them trapped in maya. Day and > > night...Bhagavad Gita. > > Now going back to Jyotish: > > > > How to see rajayoga or moksha from abhisekha. Could you give some more > > than in your book here? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > -------------- > > */Consultations & Pages/*/ > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > rafal <rafal > > starsuponme <starsuponme / > > > > Sanjay Rath pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oá¹ gurave namaḥ > > > > Dear Rafal > > > > You have a very good question about RÄjayoga. To understand this > > in depth, read a book first called RÄjayoga by Swami Vivekananda. > > You see both the biggest King and the biggest Sadhu are called > > MahÄrÄja ... the roads meet at the top. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > WebPages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> > > > > Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com <http://sohamsa.com/> > > > > SJC: http://.org <http://.org/> > > > > Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com > > <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> > > > > > > > > ** sohamsa [sohamsa ] > > *On Behalf Of *Rafal Gendarz > > *Sent:* 05 October 2009 15:59 > > *To:* sohamsa > > *Subject:* Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes > > > > > > > > > > > > */hraum krishnaya namah/* > > Dear Guruji, > > > > Regarding Abhiseka: > > > > * Normally yoga which gives raja and that which gives moksha > > are not the same but opposite like agni and water > > * In your description Abhiseka gives raja yoga and moksha > > > > From my notes from your book I noted: > > blessing from God, oblation to Deities, guru of moksa; > > coronation; PD brouoght divine blessings; mental point of > > connecting to ishta deva > > > > How to see rajayoga from that Nakshatra? Just the Vimshottari Lord > > must be strong and wellplaced? Does this favour moksha also? How > > to make distinctions? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > -------------- > > */Consultations & Pages/*/ > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > rafal <rafal > > starsuponme <starsuponme / > > > > Sanjay Rath pisze: > > > > > > > > oá¹ gurave namaḥ > > > > Dear Goel sahib > > > > That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to > > prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄrÄ is > > very important †" > > > > Consider a native having the Moon at 11^th degree of Capricorn. In > > the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄrÄ is ÅšrÄvaṇa [22] whereas in > > the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let > > us say we have Jupiter in 9^th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara > > Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 > > naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. > > > > The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen > > in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄrÄ [Last, > > moká¹£a tÄrÄ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma > > naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄrÄ is the > > one who will give rÄjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One > > whose association will be the blessing of Lord Åšiva ~hence Rudra > > abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja > > abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > WebPages: http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> > > > > Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com <http://sohamsa.com/> > > > > SJC: http://.org <http://.org/> > > > > Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com > > <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > Behalf Of Gopal Goel > > 04 October 2009 19:11 > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao > > Cc: astrologyandremedies ; > > vedic astrology ; sohamsa > > 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . > > and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of > > 13deg 20min. > > This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. > > > > Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without > > disturbing basic scheme. > > > > >From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma > > ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma, > > 19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is > > valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in > > any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. > > > > When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use > > names as per 27 > > nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is > > born in Moola nakshatra. > > 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. > > one may call it Pratyari. > > The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra > > scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become > > Prtayari nakshatra. > > > > Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for > > consideration.and they > > should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. > > Regards, > > > > > > *G. K. Goel* > > > > *address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076* > > *tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, * > > *mobile: 09350311433* > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Goelji, Namaste This is what the Chinese mapped out of the 28 constellations by 1756 as recorded (now in museum in Hong Kong). sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel 04 October 2009 19:11 P.V.R. Narasimha Rao Cc: astrologyandremedies ; vedic astrology ; sohamsa 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes Dear all, As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. >From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma, 19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration.and they should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. Regards, G. K. Goel address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile: 09350311433 __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Hare Rama Krishna Poor Ramakrishna Mission! As it is they sell the books at such a ridiculously low rate and now they are deprived of that little bit of extra earning as well. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org Sanjay Prabhakaran [sanjaychettiar] 05 October 2009 18:37 sohamsa Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes || Om Gurave NAmah || Dear Rafal, This book said to be in public domain now. Here is a link http://www.scribd.com/doc/395573/Raja-Yoga-by-Swami-Vivekananda- Warm Regards, Sanjay P 2009/10/5 RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme hraum krishnaya namah Dear Sanjayji I cant afford this book now. Could you explain this here? What you mean by roads meet there? Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was rejecting king association due to material pollutions. Also rajayogis avoid spiritualists (seeing sadhu is bad omen per some classics from material perspective) due to their 'material laziness'. So top head on this world see spiritualists as beggars and unsuccesful people, whilst spirtiualist see them trapped in maya. Day and night...Bhagavad Gita. Now going back to Jyotish: How to see rajayoga or moksha from abhisekha. Could you give some more than in your book here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme Sanjay Rath pisze: oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Rafal You have a very good question about RÄjayoga. To understand this in depth, read a book first called RÄjayoga by Swami Vivekananda. You see both the biggest King and the biggest Sadhu are called MahÄrÄja ... the roads meet at the top. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 05 October 2009 15:59 sohamsa Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes hraum krishnaya namah Dear Guruji, Regarding Abhiseka: Normally yoga which gives raja and that which gives moksha are not the same but opposite like agni and water In your description Abhiseka gives raja yoga and moksha From my notes from your book I noted: blessing from God, oblation to Deities, guru of moksa; coronation; PD brouoght divine blessings; mental point of connecting to ishta deva How to see rajayoga from that Nakshatra? Just the Vimshottari Lord must be strong and wellplaced? Does this favour moksha also? How to make distinctions? Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme Sanjay Rath pisze: oá¹ gurave namaḥ Dear Goel sahib That is such an imprtant basic point. I will give one example to prove my point that the 27 naká¹£atra scheme for special tÄrÄ is very important – Consider a native having the Moon at 11th degree of Capricorn. In the 27 naká¹£atra scheme the Janma tÄrÄ is ÅšrÄvaṇa [22] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is Abhijit [22/28] naká¹£atra. Now let us say we have Jupiter in 9th degree of Capricorn which is Uttara Ä€sÄá¸ha naká¹£atra [21] in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this is in Abhijit naká¹£atra. The way the human mind is going to conceive of this Jupiter is sen in the 27 naká¹£atra scheme = Jupiter is in AbhiÅ›eka TÄrÄ [Last, moká¹£a tÄrÄ] whereas in the 28 naká¹£atra scheme this will be Janma naká¹£atra. This makes a huge difference as the abhiÅ›eka tÄrÄ is the one who will give rÄjayoga and opportunity for rise in life. One whose association will be the blessing of Lord Åšiva ~hence Rudra abhiÅ›eka is so important. DevÄ« abhiÅ›eka, Viṣṇu abhiÅ›eka and Raja abhiÅ›eka follow in these lines. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel 04 October 2009 19:11 P.V.R. Narasimha Rao Cc: astrologyandremedies ; vedic astrology ; sohamsa 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes Dear all, As all of us know that the basic scheme of Nakshatra division is 27 . and astrologically each nakshatra is divided in equal parts of 13deg 20min. This scheme is used extensively in Indian astrology. Abhijit Nakshatra is carved out of two nakshatra without disturbing basic scheme. >From Moon nakshatra , 1st is called Janma ,3rd-Vipat,5th-Pratyari,7th-Vadha,10th-Karma, 19th-Adhana,22nd-Vainaskik etc.These names and their affet is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme.This scheme should not be mixed in any manner with 28 nakshatra scheme. When we follow 28 nakshtra scheme , some times we try to use names as per 27 nakshatra scheme , the affects may not be similar.Say a native is born in Moola nakshatra. 5th nakshatra will be Sravana and in 28 nakshatra it may be 5th. one may call it Pratyari. The affect will not be same as this name is valid for 27 nakshatra scheme and as per 27 nakshatra scheme Dhanista will become Prtayari nakshatra. Chakra constructed with 28 nakshatra has their specific rules for consideration.and they should not be confused with names given in 27 nakshatra scheme. Regards, G. K. Goel address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile: 09350311433 __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 oṠgurave namaḥ Dear Vivek Can we have a little more elaboration on this fine topic? Best Wishes Sanjay Rath WebPages: http://srath.com Jaimini Scholar: http://sohamsa.com SJC: http://.org Jyotish Digest, Books: http://sagittariuspublications.com sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of vivekvshetty 05 October 2009 23:28 sohamsa Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes Namaskaar All, Reading the discussions of this thread, i am reminded of some initiations given in some (maybe all) spiritual traditions and lineages. these are called Abhisheka Deeksha. There are multiple deekshas of these kind and also some particular order to them. One of them is Rajyaabhisheka Deeksha and another is called Maharajyabhisheka Deeksha. References to these can be found in the Sri vidya traditions. vivek sohamsa , RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Pranaam Pundit ji, My Sadgurudev gave this deeksha to many of my Guru brothers and sisters. this was just before he passed away. I was ignorant and hence was not aware of its significance at that time and hence was not fortunate enough to get it. I dont know the significance still but can only guess that it is some form of empowerment with added responsibility. Your replies to the queries on this thread somehow brought back the memories and i felt there was a connection. Even the king is given Raajyaabhisheka and only then deemed fit to rule. I believe there are a few members on this group who can throw more light on this. Thanking you, forever yours, vivek. sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath wrote: > > > > > > oṠgurave namaḥ > > Dear Vivek > > Can we have a little more elaboration on this fine topic? > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > WebPages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com > > Jaimini Scholar: <http://sohamsa.com/> http://sohamsa.com > > SJC: <http://.org/> http://.org > > Jyotish Digest, Books: <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> http://sagittariuspublications.com > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of vivekvshetty > 05 October 2009 23:28 > sohamsa > Re: 27 and 28 Nakshatra schemes > > > > > > Namaskaar All, > Reading the discussions of this thread, i am reminded of some initiations given in some (maybe all) spiritual traditions and lineages. these are called Abhisheka Deeksha. There are multiple deekshas of these kind and also some particular order to them. > One of them is Rajyaabhisheka Deeksha and another is called Maharajyabhisheka Deeksha. References to these can be found in the Sri vidya traditions. > vivek > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> , RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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