Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Mr. Govind Rajan, 11th house is a Trishadaya house along with 3 and 6 and also a Upachaya house (3, 6, 10, or 11). the 11th lord does not carry extreme malefic qualities like the dusthana lords (6, 8, 12). In general, placed in Upachaya house benefics and Malefics both lose their power and gain power slowly over time. As malefics have extra store of energy they do better, placed in this house over the period of life. Lordship of 11th house makes a planet functionally malefic, but the malefic effect of 11th house is greed and desire. Wherever 11th lord is placed it can indicate an area of potential gains or income, especially side income. Hope it helps. Thank you. Abhijit vedic astrology , " S Govind Rajan " <govindh2001 wrote: > > Respected Gurujis....!As the classsics literature says.......Why the lord of 11th place has to be considered as Malefic.?I don't have doubt on 6th,8th house ..11th house is ruling gain . How it can be considered as bad place / why its lord & nbsp; is malefic.Request you all to throw some light.With warm regardsS.Govind Rajan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Thri shad ayadhipa sarve graha papaphala smritha The lord of 3, 6 and 11 are intrinsically evil. The 11th is the 8th from the 4th, in the case of Cancer, Libra, Capricorn or Aries Ascendants. The Fourth being Sukha or Happiness and the Eleventh House is the Sukha Hani House or Destruction of Happiness. With warm regards, G Kumar astro scholar, writer & programmer http://www.e.com - abhijitbasu vedic astrology Sunday, October 25, 2009 6:55 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Why lord of 11th house is Malefic ? Mr. Govind Rajan, 11th house is a Trishadaya house along with 3 and 6 and also a Upachaya house (3, 6, 10, or 11). the 11th lord does not carry extreme malefic qualities like the dusthana lords (6, 8, 12). In general, placed in Upachaya house benefics and Malefics both lose their power and gain power slowly over time. As malefics have extra store of energy they do better, placed in this house over the period of life. Lordship of 11th house makes a planet functionally malefic, but the malefic effect of 11th house is greed and desire. Wherever 11th lord is placed it can indicate an area of potential gains or income, especially side income. Hope it helps. Thank you. Abhijit vedic astrology , " S Govind Rajan " <govindh2001 wrote: > > Respected Gurujis....!As the classsics literature says.......Why the lord of 11th place has to be considered as Malefic.?I don't have doubt on 6th,8th house ..11th house is ruling gain . How it can be considered as bad place / why its lord & nbsp; is malefic.Request you all to throw some light.With warm regardsS.Govind Rajan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Mr.Kumar ji Thanks a lot for your kind reply.I predominantly - count he place from Lagna and get confused .But I am getting & nbsp;to know & nbsp;a lot of " Intricacies " of Astrology.I thank you everybody who is directly and indirectly contributing to my knowledge.warm regardss.govind rajanOn Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:38:52 +0530 wrote & gt; Thri shad ayadhipa sarve graha papaphala smritha & gt; & gt;The lord of 3, 6 and 11 are intrinsically evil. & gt; & gt;The 11th is the 8th from the 4th, in the case of Cancer, Libra, Capricorn or Aries Ascendants. & gt; & gt;The Fourth being Sukha or Happiness and the Eleventh House is the Sukha Hani House or Destruction of Happiness. & gt; & gt;With warm regards, & gt; & gt;G Kumar & gt;astro scholar, writer & amp; programmer & gt;http://www.e.com & gt; & gt;----- Original Message ----- & gt; abhijitbasu & gt; vedic astrology & gt; Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 6:55 AM & gt; [vedic astrology] Re: Why lord of 11th house is Malefic ? & gt; & gt;Mr. Govind Rajan, & gt; & gt;11th house is a Trishadaya house along with 3 and 6 and also a Upachaya house (3, 6, 10, or 11). the 11th lord does not carry extreme malefic qualities like the dusthana lords (6, 8, 12). & gt; & gt;In general, placed in Upachaya house benefics and Malefics both lose their power and gain power slowly over time. As malefics have extra store of energy they do better, placed in this house over the period of life. & gt; & gt;Lordship of 11th house makes a planet functionally malefic, but the malefic effect of 11th house is greed and desire. & gt; & gt;Wherever 11th lord is placed it can indicate an area of potential gains or income, especially side income. & gt; & gt;Hope it helps. & gt; Thank you. & gt; Abhijit & gt; & gt;--- In vedic astrology , " S Govind Rajan " MARKETPLACE Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other & gt; Change settings via the Web ( ID required) & gt; Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional & gt; Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un Recent Activity 1 New Members 2 New FilesVisit Your Group Ads on Learn more now. Reach customers searching for you. Mental Health Zone Schizophrenia groups Find support Group Charity Give a laptop Get a laptop: One laptop per child .. & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 /*hraum krishnaya namah*/ Dear S.Govind, 11H is also hara bhava per Jaimini and as maraka to fifth house it can block your mantra and make you stucked in career. Tip: see if 11L is enemy or friend of lagnesh per naisargika and tatkalika sambandha to judge it effects and dasa. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- /*Consultations & Pages* http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme / S Govind Rajan pisze: > > > Respected Gurujis....!As the classsics literature says.......Why the > lord of 11th place has to be considered as Malefic.?I don't have doubt > on 6th,8th house .11th house is ruling gain . How it can be considered > as bad place / why its lord & nbsp; is malefic.Request you all to throw > some light.With warm regardsS.Govind Rajan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Thank you very much Mr.Rafalji.I have to go very long way to get a grip of basics warm regardsS.GovindRajanOn Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:26:19 +0530 wrote & gt; /*hraum krishnaya namah*/ & gt;Dear S.Govind, & gt; & gt;11H is also hara bhava per Jaimini and as maraka to fifth house it can & gt;block your mantra and make you stucked in career. & gt; & gt;Tip: see if 11L is enemy or friend of lagnesh per naisargika and & gt;tatkalika sambandha to judge it effects and dasa. & gt; & gt;Regards, & gt;Rafal Gendarz & gt;SJC Jyotish Guru & gt;-------------- & gt;/*Consultations & amp; Pages* & gt;http://rohinaa.com & gt;rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com & gt;starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl / & gt; & gt;S Govind Rajan pisze: & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Respected Gurujis....!As the classsics literature says.......Why the & gt; & gt; lord of 11th place has to be considered as Malefic.?I don't have doubt & gt; & gt; on 6th,8th house .11th house is ruling gain . How it can be considered & gt; & gt; as bad place / why its lord & nbsp; is malefic.Request you all to throw & gt; & gt; some light.With warm regardsS.Govind Rajan & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] & gt; & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 /*hraum krishnaya namah*/ Dear S.Govind, Have the faith in sastra whatever others will say and you will be on the good road. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- /*Consultations & Pages* http://rohinaa.com rafal starsuponme / S Govind Rajan pisze: > > > Thank you very much Mr.Rafalji.I have to go very long way to get a > grip of basics warm regardsS.GovindRajanOn Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:26:19 > +0530 wrote & gt; > > > > /*hraum krishnaya namah*/ & gt;Dear S.Govind, & gt; & gt;11H is also hara > bhava per Jaimini and as maraka to fifth house it can & gt;block your > mantra and make you stucked in career. & gt; & gt;Tip: see if 11L is enemy > or friend of lagnesh per naisargika and & gt;tatkalika sambandha to > judge it effects and dasa. & gt; & gt;Regards, & gt;Rafal Gendarz & gt;SJC > Jyotish Guru & gt;-------------- & gt;/*Consultations & amp; > Pages* & gt;http://rohinaa.com & gt;rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com & gt;starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl > <http://rohinaa.com & gt;rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com & gt;starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> > / & gt; & gt;S Govind Rajan pisze: & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Respected > Gurujis....!As the classsics literature says.......Why the & gt; & gt; > lord of 11th place has to be considered as Malefic.?I don't have doubt > & gt; & gt; on 6th,8th house .11th house is ruling gain . How it can be > considered & gt; & gt; as bad place / why its lord & nbsp; is > malefic.Request you all to throw & gt; & gt; some light.With warm > regardsS.Govind Rajan & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; [Non-text portions of this > message have been removed] & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;[Non-text portions > of this message have been removed] & gt; & gt; > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dear Govind Rajan, Don't confuse between trishadaayadhipati and dushtana. Both are distinct terms and ought to treat according to their merit. Let's understand what they are. First take dushtana. This word is a composition of " dush+sthaana " which means " inimical place " . It includes 6th house, 8th house, and 12th house. So the concept of dushtana is about places or abodes in a chart. Almost all sages, including Parashara teaches that they are evil places for a graha to occupy. Dushtana placement is considered for house assessment in general. Their " lords " are not necessarily evil during their periods. Now come to trishadaaya or trishadaayadhipati. This term is a composition of four words, " tri+shad+aaya+adhipati " and connotes " lords of 3rd, 6th and 11th houses " . Keep in mind that this is all about " evil lordship " and not " evil placement " . These lords are malefic in increasing order, i.e. 3rd lord is bad, 6th lord is worse and 11th lord is worst. The concept of trishadaaya is all about swabha of lordship. And no ancient or modern authority elaborates that 11th house is bad for occupation of planet in janma (natal) or chalit (transit). But all jyotish schools agree that trishadaayadhipati (11th lord, 6th lord, 3rd lord) harm the native during their directional periods. Note that upachaya bhava is another concept for a group houses (3rd, 6th, 10, 11th). This set of houses are considered favourable placement for natural malefic planets. While In other words, this concept is especially related to " Ududasa " , better known as " Vimshottari dasa " . And Parashara has discussed this concept quite later in his BPHS, just before enunciating dashas. The dasas of trishadaayas yield evil results provided they are not sambandhi/sadharmi with other beneficial kendars/trikona lords. The lords of 3rd, 6th, 11th also spoil a raja-yoga or yoga-karaka dasha. Classical sources are not clear about the " logic " behind evil attribute of trishadaaya (as far as my little understanding concerns). Different interpreters of Laghu Parashari have discussed it differently. Even there exists many astro-philosophical and astro-mythical explanations. Some related the 11th lord with the concept of 'hara' and eloborate that it a maraka for mantrashtana (5th house), some explains that 11th is the epicenter of kamatrikona and contains elements of desire, greed etc. Yet some say that 11th is simultaneously holds the naisargika pada of shatru and vayaya (i.e. 6th from 6th and 12th from 12th ) etc. Hope this helps you, M. Imran vedic astrology , " S Govind Rajan " <govindh2001 wrote: > > Respected Gurujis....!As the classsics literature says.......Why the lord of 11th place has to be considered as Malefic.?I don't have doubt on 6th,8th house ..11th house is ruling gain . How it can be considered as bad place / why its lord & nbsp; is malefic.Request you all to throw some light.With warm regardsS.Govind Rajan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dear Govind Rajan, Don't confuse between trishadaayadhipati and dushtana. Both are distinct terms and ought to treat according to their merit. Let's understand what they are. First take dushtana. This word is a composition of " dush+sthaana " which means " inimical place " . It includes 6th house, 8th house, and 12th house. So the concept of dushtana is about places or abodes in a chart. Almost all sages, including Parashara teaches that they are evil places for a graha to occupy. Dushtana placement is considered for house assessment in general. Their " lords " are not necessarily evil during their periods. Now come to trishadaaya or trishadaayadhipati. This term is a composition of four words, " tri+shad+aaya+adhipati " and connotes " lords of 3rd, 6th and 11th houses " . Keep in mind that this is all about " evil lordship " and not " evil placement " . These lords are malefic in increasing order, i.e. 3rd lord is bad, 6th lord is worse and 11th lord is worst. The concept of trishadaaya is all about swabha of lordship. And no ancient or modern authority elaborates that 11th house is bad for occupation of planet in janma (natal) or chalit (transit). But all jyotish schools agree that trishadaayadhipati (11th lord, 6th lord, 3rd lord) harm the native during their directional periods. Note that upachaya bhava is another concept for a group houses (3rd, 6th, 10, 11th). This set of houses are considered favourable placement for natural malefic planets. So remeber, upachaya for occupation of natural malefic. While trishadaayadhipati for " malefic lordship " . In other words, this concept of trishadaaya is especially related to " Ududasa " , better known as " Vimshottari dasa " . And Parashara has discussed this concept quite later in his BPHS, just before enunciating dashas. The dasas of trishadaayas yield evil results provided they are not sambandhi/sadharmi with other beneficial kendars/trikona lords. The lords of 3rd, 6th, 11th also spoil a raja-yoga or yoga-karaka dasha. Classical sources are not clear about the " logic " behind evil attribute of trishadaaya (as far as my little understanding concerns). Different interpreters of Laghu Parashari have discussed it differently. Even there exists many astro-philosophical and astro-mythical explanations. Some related the 11th lord with the concept of 'hara' and eloborate that it a maraka for mantrashtana (5th house), some explains that 11th is the epicenter of kamatrikona and contains elements of desire, greed etc. Yet some say that 11th is simultaneously holds the naisargika pada of shatru and vayaya (i.e. 6th from 6th and 12th from 12th ) etc. Hope this helps you, M. Imran vedic astrology , " S Govind Rajan " <govindh2001 wrote: > > Respected Gurujis....!As the classsics literature says.......Why the lord of 11th place has to be considered as Malefic.?I don't have doubt on 6th,8th house ..11th house is ruling gain . How it can be considered as bad place / why its lord & nbsp; is malefic.Request you all to throw some light.With warm regardsS.Govind Rajan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Dear Govind Rajan, Don't confuse between trishadaayadhipati and dushtana. Both are distinct terms and ought to treat according to their merit. Let's understand what they are. First take dushtana. This word is a composition of "dush+sthaana" which means "inimical place". It includes 6th house, 8th house, and 12th house. So the concept of dushtana is about places or abodes in a chart. Almost all sages, including Parashara teaches that they are evil places for a graha to occupy. Dushtana placement is considered for house assessment in general. Their "lords" are not necessarily evil during their periods. Now come to trishadaaya or trishadaayadhipati. This term is a composition of four words, "tri+shad+aaya+adhipati" and connotes "lords of 3rd, 6th and 11th houses". Keep in mind that this is all about "evil lordship" and not "evil placement". These lords are malefic in increasing order, i.e. 3rd lord is bad, 6th lord is worse and 11th lord is worst. The concept of trishadaaya is all about swabha of lordship. And no ancient or modern authority elaborates that 11th house is bad for occupation of planet in janma (natal) or chalit (transit). But all jyotish schools agree that trishadaayadhipati (11th lord, 6th lord, 3rd lord) harm the native during their directional periods. Note that upachaya bhava is another concept for a group houses (3rd, 6th, 10, 11th). This set of houses are considered favourable placement for natural malefic planets. So remeber, upachaya for occupation of natural malefic. While trishadaayadhipati for "malefic lordship". In other words, this concept of trishadaaya is especially related to "Ududasa", better known as "Vimshottari dasa". And Parashara has discussed this concept quite later in his BPHS, just before enunciating dashas. The dasas of trishadaayas yield evil results provided they are not sambandhi/sadharmi with other beneficial kendars/trikona lords. The lords of 3rd, 6th, 11th also spoil a raja-yoga or yoga-karaka dasha. Classical sources are not clear about the "logic" behind evil attribute of trishadaaya (as far as my little understanding concerns). Different interpreters of Laghu Parashari have discussed it differently. Even there exists many astro-philosophical and astro-mythical explanations. Some related the 11th lord with the concept of 'hara' and eloborate that it a maraka for mantrashtana (5th house), some explains that 11th is the epicenter of kamatrikona and contains elements of desire, greed etc. Yet some say that 11th is simultaneously holds the naisargika pada of shatru and vayaya (i.e. 6th from 6th and 12th from 12th ) etc. Hope this helps you, M. Imran vedic astrology , "S Govind Rajan" <govindh2001 wrote: > > Respected Gurujis....!As the classsics literature says.......Why the lord of 11th place has to be considered as Malefic.?I don't have doubt on 6th,8th house ..11th house is ruling gain . How it can be considered as bad place / why its lord & nbsp; is malefic.Request you all to throw some light.With warm regardsS.Govind Rajan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Hare Rama Krishna To add, consideration should be given to whether the dustana lord is also lord of a trine simulatneously. and if a dustana lord is aspected by a good Jupiter. or combust the Sun. Or placement of the dustana in another dustana. Malefic planets will always give some malefic results,irregardless of house placement just a matter of intensity(sign and house placement), and who and where it affects.The 3rd house is more than parakrama and siblings. For example, who would want Saturn, Mars and Sun in the 3rd house, or the 12th house? Of course they have to go somewhere! Best wishes LAkshmi M. Imran <astroimranSJV Group <vedic astrology >Cc: Sohamsa <sohamsa >Mon, October 26, 2009 2:14:43 AM Re: Why lord of 11th house is Malefic ? Dear Govind Rajan,Don't confuse between trishadaayadhipati and dushtana. Both are distinct termsand ought to treat according to their merit.Let's understand what they are. First take dushtana. This word is a compositionof "dush+sthaana" which means "inimical place". It includes 6th house, 8thhouse, and 12th house. So the concept of dushtana is about places or abodes in achart. Almost all sages, including Parashara teaches that they are evil placesfor a graha to occupy. Dushtana placement is considered for house assessment ingeneral. Their "lords" are not necessarily evil during their periods.Now come to trishadaaya or trishadaayadhipati. This term is a composition offour words, "tri+shad+aaya+ adhipati" and connotes "lords of 3rd, 6th and 11thhouses". Keep in mind that this is all about "evil lordship" and not "evilplacement". These lords are malefic in increasing order, i.e. 3rd lord is bad,6th lord is worse and 11th lord is worst. The concept of trishadaaya is allabout swabha of lordship.And no ancient or modern authority elaborates that 11th house is bad foroccupation of planet in janma (natal) or chalit (transit). But all jyotishschools agree that trishadaayadhipati (11th lord, 6th lord, 3rd lord) harm thenative during their directional periods. Note that upachaya bhava is anotherconcept for a group houses (3rd, 6th, 10, 11th). This set of houses areconsidered favourable placement for natural malefic planets. So remeber, upachaya for occupation of natural malefic. While trishadaayadhipati for "malefic lordship".In other words, this concept of trishadaaya is especially related to "Ududasa", better known as"Vimshottari dasa". And Parashara has discussed this concept quite later in hisBPHS, just before enunciating dashas. The dasas of trishadaayas yield evilresults provided they are not sambandhi/sadharmi with other beneficialkendars/trikona lords. The lords of 3rd, 6th, 11th also spoil a raja-yoga oryoga-karaka dasha.Classical sources are not clear about the "logic" behind evil attribute oftrishadaaya (as far as my little understanding concerns). Different interpretersof Laghu Parashari have discussed it differently. Even there exists manyastro-philosophical and astro-mythical explanations.Some related the 11th lord with the concept of 'hara' and eloborate that it amaraka for mantrashtana (5th house), some explains that 11th is the epicenter ofkamatrikona and contains elements of desire, greed etc. Yet some say that 11this simultaneously holds the naisargika pada of shatru and vayaya (i.e. 6th from6th and 12th from 12th ) etc.Hope this helps you,M. Imranvedic astrology, "S Govind Rajan" <govindh2001@ ...>wrote:>> Respected Gurujis....! As the classsics literature says.......Why the lord of11th place has to be considered as Malefic.?I don't have doubt on 6th,8th house.11th house is ruling gain . How it can be considered as bad place / why itslord & nbsp; is malefic.Request you all to throw some light.With warmregardsS.Govind Rajan>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Imranji,Great explanation and much appreciated. Just as dushthana lords in Dushthana houses form viparita raj yoga, Does an exchange of 3rd and 11th house cause something similar, especially for a Virgo lagna? Looking forward to some feedback. What can one expect in terms of results. ThanksNaresh Desai.M. Imran <astroimranSJV Group <vedic astrology >Cc: Sohamsa <sohamsa >Mon, October 26, 2009 4:14:43 AM Re: Why lord of 11th house is Malefic ? Dear Govind Rajan, Don't confuse between trishadaayadhipati and dushtana. Both are distinct terms and ought to treat according to their merit. Let's understand what they are. First take dushtana. This word is a composition of "dush+sthaana" which means "inimical place". It includes 6th house, 8th house, and 12th house. So the concept of dushtana is about places or abodes in a chart. Almost all sages, including Parashara teaches that they are evil places for a graha to occupy. Dushtana placement is considered for house assessment in general. Their "lords" are not necessarily evil during their periods. Now come to trishadaaya or trishadaayadhipati. This term is a composition of four words, "tri+shad+aaya+ adhipati" and connotes "lords of 3rd, 6th and 11th houses". Keep in mind that this is all about "evil lordship" and not "evil placement". These lords are malefic in increasing order, i.e. 3rd lord is bad, 6th lord is worse and 11th lord is worst. The concept of trishadaaya is all about swabha of lordship. And no ancient or modern authority elaborates that 11th house is bad for occupation of planet in janma (natal) or chalit (transit). But all jyotish schools agree that trishadaayadhipati (11th lord, 6th lord, 3rd lord) harm the native during their directional periods. Note that upachaya bhava is another concept for a group houses (3rd, 6th, 10, 11th). This set of houses are considered favourable placement for natural malefic planets. So remeber, upachaya for occupation of natural malefic. While trishadaayadhipati for "malefic lordship". In other words, this concept of trishadaaya is especially related to "Ududasa", better known as "Vimshottari dasa". And Parashara has discussed this concept quite later in his BPHS, just before enunciating dashas. The dasas of trishadaayas yield evil results provided they are not sambandhi/sadharmi with other beneficial kendars/trikona lords. The lords of 3rd, 6th, 11th also spoil a raja-yoga or yoga-karaka dasha. Classical sources are not clear about the "logic" behind evil attribute of trishadaaya (as far as my little understanding concerns). Different interpreters of Laghu Parashari have discussed it differently. Even there exists many astro-philosophical and astro-mythical explanations. Some related the 11th lord with the concept of 'hara' and eloborate that it a maraka for mantrashtana (5th house), some explains that 11th is the epicenter of kamatrikona and contains elements of desire, greed etc. Yet some say that 11th is simultaneously holds the naisargika pada of shatru and vayaya (i.e. 6th from 6th and 12th from 12th ) etc. Hope this helps you, M. Imran vedic astrology, "S Govind Rajan" <govindh2001@ ...> wrote: > > Respected Gurujis....! As the classsics literature says.......Why the lord of 11th place has to be considered as Malefic.?I don't have doubt on 6th,8th house ..11th house is ruling gain . How it can be considered as bad place / why its lord & nbsp; is malefic.Request you all to throw some light.With warm regardsS.Govind Rajan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Dear Mr.Imran,First of all, my sincere thanks to you.I never expected such a detailed information.Thanks once again for the great enlightening.I humbly request you to support like this in my future questions as well as in my case studiesthat I will try.warm regardsS.Govind RajanOn Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:41:57 +0530 wrote & gt; Dear Govind Rajan, & gt; & gt;Don't confuse between trishadaayadhipati and dushtana. Both are distinct terms & gt;and ought to treat according to their merit. & gt; & gt;Let's understand what they are. First take dushtana. This word is a composition & gt;of " dush+sthaana " which means " inimical place " . It includes 6th house, 8th & gt;house, and 12th house. So the concept of dushtana is about places or abodes in a & gt;chart. Almost all sages, including Parashara teaches that they are evil places & gt;for a graha to occupy. Dushtana placement is considered for house assessment in & gt;general. Their " lords " are not necessarily evil during their periods. & gt; & gt;Now come to trishadaaya or trishadaayadhipati. This term is a composition of & gt;four words, " tri+shad+aaya+adhipati " and connotes " lords of 3rd, 6th and 11th & gt;houses " . Keep in mind that this is all about " evil lordship " and not " evil & gt;placement " . These lords are malefic in increasing order, i.e. 3rd lord is bad, & gt;6th lord is worse and 11th lord is worst. The concept of trishadaaya is all & gt;about swabha of lordship. & gt; & gt;And no ancient or modern authority elaborates that 11th house is bad for & gt;occupation of planet in janma (natal) or chalit (transit). But all jyotish & gt;schools agree that trishadaayadhipati (11th lord, 6th lord, 3rd lord) harm the & gt;native during their directional periods. Note that upachaya bhava is another & gt;concept for a group houses (3rd, 6th, 10, 11th). This set of houses are & gt;considered favourable placement for natural malefic planets. So remeber, upachaya for occupation of natural malefic. While trishadaayadhipati for " malefic lordship " . & gt; & gt;In other words, this concept of trishadaaya is especially related to " Ududasa " , better known as & gt; " Vimshottari dasa " . And Parashara has discussed this concept quite later in his & gt;BPHS, just before enunciating dashas. The dasas of trishadaayas yield evil & gt;results provided they are not sambandhi/sadharmi with other beneficial & gt;kendars/trikona lords. The lords of 3rd, 6th, 11th also spoil a raja-yoga or & gt;yoga-karaka dasha. & gt; & gt;Classical sources are not clear about the " logic " behind evil attribute of & gt;trishadaaya (as far as my little understanding concerns). Different interpreters & gt;of Laghu Parashari have discussed it differently. Even there exists many & gt;astro-philosophical and astro-mythical explanations. & gt; & gt;Some related the 11th lord with the concept of 'hara' and eloborate that it a & gt;maraka for mantrashtana (5th house), some explains that 11th is the epicenter of & gt;kamatrikona and contains elements of desire, greed etc. Yet some say that 11th & gt;is simultaneously holds the naisargika pada of shatru and vayaya (i.e. 6th from & gt;6th and 12th from 12th ) etc. & gt; & gt;Hope this helps you, & gt;M. Imran & gt; & gt;vedic astrology , " S Govind Rajan " MARKETPLACE Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other & gt; Change settings via the Web ( ID required) & gt; Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional & gt; Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Un Recent Activity 2 New FilesVisit Your Group Ads on Learn more now. Reach customers searching for you. Mental Health Zone Mental Health Learn More Celebrity Parents Spotlight on Kids Hollywood families share stories .. & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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