Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 /*om gurave namah*/ Dear Gordon, Could you kindly share the link to the (online?) sanskrit dictionary if it's over the net? I've got a few ones and I'm sharing the best one (so far that I could have found)here for others which is: http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php However, I was, like Sanjay ji, real surprised at the precise definition given by Gordon. Kind Regards, Anooj > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of GWBrennan > 30 November 2009 11:53 > sohamsa > Re: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains > > Dear Sanjay, > > That is really interesting about Unmada Yoga. In the Sanskrit Dictionary it lists mad, furious, extravagant, but then drunk, intoxicated. So exhileration is the sense of it. That makes much more sense. > > > > Regards > Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Anooj, Sanjay gave the word 'exhileration' first of all. So what I said was backing it up by quoting from Monier-Williams dictionary. Then Sarbani said that it was not exhileration in a good sense at all. I suppose intoxication might be a bit nearer, but then you could say that any planet conjunct its exaltation lord could be 'intoxicated', i.e. in the sense of exhilerated, by the presence of its exaltation lord. The intoxicants represented by Saturn are what do the damage. Sanjay said the meaning was not just 'mad'. Anyway I am sorry that I am not into online dictionaries. Mine are all books. There are two words here: unmada and unmatta. They both come from the Sanskrit root 'mad' with prefix 'ud'. 'Unmatta' seems to relate a bit more to madness or insanity, but the meanings are very similar. Unmada is an adjective and unmatta is past participle. The past participle has a slightly stronger meaning. The best dictionary if you want to distinguish general usage is by VS Apte. That gives 5 senses for for Unmatta: 1. drunk, intoxicated. 2.frantic, mad. 3. Puffed, elevated. 4. Possessed by a ghost. 5. Very great, abnormal. For Unmada it just gives 1. intoxicated, drunk. 2. Mad, furious, extravagant. 3. Causing intoxication, intoxicating. Monier-Williams is the same as Apte for unmada, but for unmatta he adds disordered in intellect or insane as the first meaning. Only knowing what exactly is happening to the planets will give the proper answer to this question. If this is all happening because of a planet's exhileration in the presence of its exaltation lord then thinking (as I have also done) that Mars/Saturn conjuction indicates madness seems to miss the point a bit. Regards Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear Gordon, I too found it hard to believe " exhilaration " to be the meaning. Exhilaration has this " cheerful " connotation that doesnt sound right. Have you considered " manic " ? As in manic-depressive of bipolar disorder? With Mars and Saturn involved, I think manic would perhaps be most appropriate. Saturn, IMHO, provides the darkness (being closeted in a certain frame of mind) and Mars provides the energy to keep banging around within that darkness, yet never finding the way out. Unfortunately, I have this yoga, though in Paka Lagna (Saturn in Paka Lagna, Mars opposed), so I have some first hand experience :-) Sundeep sohamsa , GWBrennan wrote: > > Dear Anooj, > > Sanjay gave the word 'exhileration' first of all. So what I said was > backing it up by quoting from Monier-Williams dictionary. Then Sarbani said > that it was not exhileration in a good sense at all. I suppose intoxication > might be a bit nearer, but then you could say that any planet conjunct its > exaltation lord could be 'intoxicated', i.e. in the sense of exhilerated, > by the presence of its exaltation lord. The intoxicants represented by > Saturn are what do the damage. Sanjay said the meaning was not just 'mad'. > > Anyway I am sorry that I am not into online dictionaries. Mine are all > books. There are two words here: unmada and unmatta. They both come from > the Sanskrit root 'mad' with prefix 'ud'. 'Unmatta' seems to relate a bit > more to madness or insanity, but the meanings are very similar. Unmada is > an adjective and unmatta is past participle. The past participle has a > slightly stronger meaning. > > The best dictionary if you want to distinguish general usage is by VS > Apte. That gives 5 senses for for Unmatta: 1. drunk, intoxicated. 2.frantic, > mad. 3. Puffed, elevated. 4. Possessed by a ghost. 5. Very great, > abnormal. For Unmada it just gives 1. intoxicated, drunk. 2. Mad, furious, > extravagant. 3. Causing intoxication, intoxicating. Monier-Williams is the > same as Apte for unmada, but for unmatta he adds disordered in intellect or > insane as the first meaning. > > Only knowing what exactly is happening to the planets will give the proper > answer to this question. If this is all happening because of a planet's > exhileration in the presence of its exaltation lord then thinking (as I have > also done) that Mars/Saturn conjuction indicates madness seems to miss the > point a bit. > > Regards > > Gordon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Sundeep, Manic is a very apt word. There are many words – like unmada- whic we use daily but its hard to find an English corollary. Deranged, mad, out of his mind, manic, crazy are the words I would prefer to use in every sense of the term. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org vedicastrostudent [vedicastrostudent] 05 December 2009 01:30 sohamsa Re: Sanksrit Online Dictionary Dear Gordon, I too found it hard to believe " exhilaration " to be the meaning. Exhilaration has this " cheerful " connotation that doesnt sound right. Have you considered " manic " ? As in manic-depressive of bipolar disorder? With Mars and Saturn involved, I think manic would perhaps be most appropriate. Saturn, IMHO, provides the darkness (being closeted in a certain frame of mind) and Mars provides the energy to keep banging around within that darkness, yet never finding the way out. Unfortunately, I have this yoga, though in Paka Lagna (Saturn in Paka Lagna, Mars opposed), so I have some first hand experience :-) Sundeep sohamsa , GWBrennan wrote: > > Dear Anooj, > > Sanjay gave the word 'exhileration' first of all. So what I said was > backing it up by quoting from Monier-Williams dictionary. Then Sarbani said > that it was not exhileration in a good sense at all. I suppose intoxication > might be a bit nearer, but then you could say that any planet conjunct its > exaltation lord could be 'intoxicated', i.e. in the sense of exhilerated, > by the presence of its exaltation lord. The intoxicants represented by > Saturn are what do the damage. Sanjay said the meaning was not just 'mad'. > > Anyway I am sorry that I am not into online dictionaries. Mine are all > books. There are two words here: unmada and unmatta. They both come from > the Sanskrit root 'mad' with prefix 'ud'. 'Unmatta' seems to relate a bit > more to madness or insanity, but the meanings are very similar. Unmada is > an adjective and unmatta is past participle. The past participle has a > slightly stronger meaning. > > The best dictionary if you want to distinguish general usage is by VS > Apte. That gives 5 senses for for Unmatta: 1. drunk, intoxicated. 2.frantic, > mad. 3. Puffed, elevated. 4. Possessed by a ghost. 5. Very great, > abnormal. For Unmada it just gives 1. intoxicated, drunk. 2. Mad, furious, > extravagant. 3. Causing intoxication, intoxicating. Monier-Williams is the > same as Apte for unmada, but for unmatta he adds disordered in intellect or > insane as the first meaning. > > Only knowing what exactly is happening to the planets will give the proper > answer to this question. If this is all happening because of a planet's > exhileration in the presence of its exaltation lord then thinking (as I have > also done) that Mars/Saturn conjuction indicates madness seems to miss the > point a bit. > > Regards > > Gordon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Hi Sarbbani, I was reading Prasna Marga last night and Unmada seems to be used a lot there. BV Raman thought it was indicating mania of some kind. Regards Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 om namo bhagavate rudraayaDear Gurus,What I know from our Kannada language literature's is Unmada means one whose mind is not in control.Generally elephants will show this stage of unmada and will cause havoc.It is a type of sudden anger where mind has no control and results in havoc.hare rÄma křśnaSunilkumar S.BiradarAsst Resident Engineer,Parsons Overseas LtdDubai,United Arab Emirates (UAE)Mobile @ +97150 347 5317Email @ sunilkumar.biradarFacebook @ Sunilkumar Biradarsohamsa From: GWBrennanDate: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:34:00 -0500Re: Re: Sanksrit Online Dictionary Hi Sarbbani, I was reading Prasna Marga last night and Unmada seems to be used a lot there. BV Raman thought it was indicating mania of some kind. Regards Gordonhttp://windows.microsoft.com/shop Find the right PC for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 klim krishna klim Dear Gordon Per my experience Sa+Ma yoga gives effects similar to vata type mental disease. Exhilaration is one of it symptoms. Supposingly intensity will depend on the chart and forth/fifth houses damage. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages www.rohinaa.com Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube.com/user/RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz rgendarz Skype: jyotraff1 GWBrennan pisze:  Hi Sarbbani,  I was reading Prasna Marga last night and Unmada seems to be used a lot there. BV Raman thought it was indicating mania of some kind.  Regards  Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Gordon, Yes, thats what I told you, madness in the literal sense or behaving like as if you are mad, crazy. I would not associate exhilaration in any sense of the word with unmada. Indians may translate it as crazy, mad, manic etc. Etc. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org GWBrennan [GWBrennan] 08 December 2009 21:04 sohamsa Re: Re: Sanksrit Online Dictionary Hi Sarbbani, I was reading Prasna Marga last night and Unmada seems to be used a lot there. BV Raman thought it was indicating mania of some kind. Regards Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 om gurave namah Dear Gordon/Sarbani That is the problem with modern translations, and Dr B V Raman is modern keeping the total period of Vedic Astrology in mind. Thehoroscope of Sri Rama has been given and now Sarbani, whatever you believe is a modern meaning of the word, please explain this in the chart of Sri Rama Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sarbani Rath 09 December 2009 12:41 sohamsa RE: Re: Sanksrit Online Dictionary Hare Rama Krishna Dear Gordon, Yes, thats what I told you, madness in the literal sense or behaving like as if you are mad, crazy. I would not associate exhilaration in any sense of the word with unmada. Indians may translate it as crazy, mad, manic etc. Etc. Best Regards, Sarbani Rath Homepage: http://sarbani.com Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org GWBrennan [GWBrennan] 08 December 2009 21:04 sohamsa Re: Re: Sanksrit Online Dictionary Hi Sarbbani, I was reading Prasna Marga last night and Unmada seems to be used a lot there. BV Raman thought it was indicating mania of some kind. Regards Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 ||HARE RAMA KRSHNA|| Respected Guruji, Can we say that Unmada is being intensely passionate about something; doing something like a mad man being passionate about someone or some idea/thing with respects Vikas sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath wrote: > > > > > > om gurave namah > > Dear Gordon/Sarbani > > That is the problem with modern translations, and Dr B V Raman is modern keeping the total period of Vedic Astrology in mind. Thehoroscope of Sri Rama has been given and now Sarbani, whatever you believe is a modern meaning of the word, please explain this in the chart of Sri Rama > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 > > Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sarbani Rath > 09 December 2009 12:41 > sohamsa > RE: Re: Sanksrit Online Dictionary > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Gordon, > > Yes, thats what I told you, madness in the literal sense or behaving like as if you are mad, crazy. I would not associate exhilaration in any sense of the word with unmada. Indians may translate it as crazy, mad, manic etc. Etc. > > Best Regards, > > Sarbani Rath > > Homepage: http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> > > Sagittarius Publications: http://sagittariuspublications.com <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> > > Sohamsa: http://sohamsa.com <http://sohamsa.com/> > > Sri Jagannath Centre: http://.org <http://.org/> > > > > GWBrennan [GWBrennan] > 08 December 2009 21:04 > sohamsa > Re: Re: Sanksrit Online Dictionary > > > > > > Hi Sarbbani, > > > > I was reading Prasna Marga last night and Unmada seems to be used a lot there. BV Raman thought it was indicating mania of some kind. > > > > Regards > > > > Gordon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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