Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 dear gurujans, For this thread i am givng my details. My Shani does aspect the Lagna, moon & my Lagna lord. As such my nature is wiity, but i do come under depression. Till date i was putting the reason for that to my moon. Which is also severly afflicted. I always feel of quitting the job & can hardly handle tension. but main thing is once you know the problem, what is the solution for that. Respected gurujans can see the chart & comment. Details are as under. My details are as under. Name :Atul GuptaDate of Birth : 11 jan 1976,Place of Birth : kalka (haryana/HP) Latitude:30° 50' N Longitude:76° 55' E Time of Birth 23.53--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafał Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: not able to achive much inspite of bright brainssohamsa Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 3:31 PM klim krishna klimDear GurujiI have one chart when Mars in first and Shani in seventh brought serious mental disorders. The person need medical attention after some crazy action in the bank when the police or guards took him out. He is also deeply religious person and did lot for spiritual community.The exhilaration symptoms were there from time to time but most of his times he was just depressed and the vata was unbalanced which was seen in his moves etc.Most of mental problems (known to public) are due to vata unbalance. Here the spirituality is brought by drsti of vakri-Shani on both Moon Lagna/Lagnesh. This is maybe the third chart where I saw Shani deb in seventh house bringing high spirituality, all of them are unbalanced mentally. He is unhappy married. Manasa Tara from Moon and Lagna are lorded by Sun which is neecha in D9 and of course basic stuff like forth/fifth houses damage.Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru--------------Consultations & Pageswww.rohinaa.comJyotish Tutorialswww.youtube.com/user/RafalGendarzMail:rgendarzrgendarzSanjay Rath pisze: om gurave namah Dear Krishna Both Lagna and Moon have strong Agni planets - Moon has Mars in digbala while the Lagna has Sun in Leo. Some texts call this Mars-Saturn opposition as unmada yoga which is NOT madness. It is exhileration. The person laughs all the time, even in the face of death he or she will laugh. Thats the peculiar power of Mars when aspected by Saturn, the lord of its exaltation sign. Jupiter also causes unmada when aspected by Saturn from 7th house as Saturn is the lord of its debility sign. However, Jupiter will see sorrow and will laugh only after a very great struggle. This is the subtle difference. Agni is the one that enjoys vayu as it only glows more bright. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa. com; Books: www.sagittariuspubl ications. com; Community: www.. org sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama30 November 2009 09:00sohamsa@ .comRe: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Dear Sanjay ji, The principle that you have indicated about Saturn seems to totally fail in the following horoscope. Saturn aspects both Moon and Lagna by occupying 4th house. Interestingly, the native is running Sat-Moon period now. The native was never even close to anything called depression. I wonder it could be because Saturn is yogakaraka from Moon. Am I correct? DOB: Sep. 7, 1958 TOB: 6:15 am POB: Bangalore Regards,Krishna On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: om gurave namah Dear Haresh I don't think Thakur Ramakrishna was depressed at all. He was in constant joyous ecstasy. I think Moon in Saturn sign just makes the mind traditional or simply old. It is the drsti of shani, particularly graha drsti which is very depressing - be it on the Moon or Lagna or even the lagnesh. Whichever house shani is placed is the root of sorrow in life - this applies to varga as well. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa. com; Books: www.sagittariuspubl ications. com; Community: www.. org sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .com] On Behalf Of Haresh(Harry) Nathani29 November 2009 10:36sohamsa@ .com RE: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Dear Lakshmi Aspect of sani on moon, its conjunction, placement of moon in sani’s rashi, placement of sani in karka rashi always gives depression yog. Direct aspect & conjunction give a strong depression yog. HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103Subscribe on this link http://in.groups. / group/Chandra- AdityaAstroRemed iesFor Professional Paid Consultancy mail request for charges toharesh1405 /hareshgnatha ni (AT) gmail (DOT) com or call +91 9867214103 sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .com] On Behalf Of Lakshmi KarySaturday, November 28, 2009 11:39 PMsohamsa@ .comRe: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Hare Rama Krishna Dear Harish, Interesting chart, all upachaya lords are in dustanas. Is he depressed as well? best wishes lakshmi Haresh(Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 >sohamsa@ .comCc: Chandra-AdityaAstro Remedies@ . co.inSat, November 28, 2009 6:09:49 AMRE: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Dear Vivek If u hv a look at the chart of the native it clearly indicates that the native is a Posthumous child, meaning child born after the death of father when the child is in mother’s womb. With Rahu in his 5th house gives the native a strong sixth sense, but with rahu in his 6th house in transit will give him teething problems related to career and finance. The native also has Jupiter in his 8th house, it will not give him much financial problems when his Jupiter maha dasha starts, but Jupiter in 12th from 9th house will also give him bad luck, hence strengthening Jupiter by wearing its gemstone is not advisable as it will also give him increased debts, disease being lord of 6th house also. Strengthening of lagnesh & dhanesh can help. HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103Subscribe on this link http://in.groups. / group/Chandra- AdityaAstroRemed iesFor Professional Paid Consultancy mail request for charges toharesh1405 /hareshgnatha ni (AT) gmail (DOT) com or call +91 9867214103 sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Vivek BajajWednesday, November 25, 2009 6:36 PMsohamsa@ .com not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Dear Gurujans/Learned members Native was born after the death of his father. Struggled all his life. Elder brother was adopted by elder brother of father as he had no kids. he is very well to do but never helped native, instead kept pushing him into mote troubles. Started work at early age and had a good career but due to medical reasons had to spend all his savings. restarted career but never made big. every time any opportunity came, the circumstances changed and either the opportunity was lost or losses occurred. Please suggest if yellow sapphire would help? Jupitar dasa starting from 2016, will it be favorable. with my limited knowledge I just thought that yellow sapphire will help but want to seek guidance from Gurujans/learned members. DOB 30-01-1975TOB 18:25POB Yamunanagar (Haryana) Thanks and RegardsVivek Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 om gurave namah Dear Atul Are you lokesh sharma sharma or atul gupta? Sorrow does not just come from saturn but also from its house significations - 6H shows sorrow coming from relationships 8H shows misfortunes bringing sorrow and 12H shows the undoing of the self which brings sorrow. All these houses are signified by Saturn. In the D9 chart these signs carry the energy of the rashi to become the vyayamsa, rogamsa and randhramsa. Planets in these navamsa in addition to the signs will also carry a saturn (sorrow, disease) tinge. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of lokeshsharma sharma 30 November 2009 22:06 sohamsa Re: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains (for SANJAY RATH JI) dear gurujans, For this thread i am givng my details. My Shani does aspect the Lagna, moon & my Lagna lord. As such my nature is wiity, but i do come under depression. Till date i was putting the reason for that to my moon. Which is also severly afflicted. I always feel of quitting the job & can hardly handle tension. but main thing is once you know the problem, what is the solution for that. Respected gurujans can see the chart & comment. Details are as under. My details are as under. Name :Atul Gupta Date of Birth : 11 jan 1976, Place of Birth : kalka (haryana/HP) Latitude: 30° 50' N Longitude: 76° 55' E Time of Birth 23.53 --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme Re: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains sohamsa Monday, November 30, 2009, 3:31 PM klim krishna klim Dear Guruji I have one chart when Mars in first and Shani in seventh brought serious mental disorders. The person need medical attention after some crazy action in the bank when the police or guards took him out. He is also deeply religious person and did lot for spiritual community. The exhilaration symptoms were there from time to time but most of his times he was just depressed and the vata was unbalanced which was seen in his moves etc. Most of mental problems (known to public) are due to vata unbalance. Here the spirituality is brought by drsti of vakri-Shani on both Moon Lagna/Lagnesh. This is maybe the third chart where I saw Shani deb in seventh house bringing high spirituality, all of them are unbalanced mentally. He is unhappy married. Manasa Tara from Moon and Lagna are lorded by Sun which is neecha in D9 and of course basic stuff like forth/fifth houses damage. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages www.rohinaa.com Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube.com/user/RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz rgendarz Sanjay Rath pisze: om gurave namah Dear Krishna Both Lagna and Moon have strong Agni planets - Moon has Mars in digbala while the Lagna has Sun in Leo. Some texts call this Mars-Saturn opposition as unmada yoga which is NOT madness. It is exhileration. The person laughs all the time, even in the face of death he or she will laugh. Thats the peculiar power of Mars when aspected by Saturn, the lord of its exaltation sign. Jupiter also causes unmada when aspected by Saturn from 7th house as Saturn is the lord of its debility sign. However, Jupiter will see sorrow and will laugh only after a very great struggle. This is the subtle difference. Agni is the one that enjoys vayu as it only glows more bright. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa. com; Books: www.sagittariuspubl ications. com; Community: www.. org sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ . com] On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama 30 November 2009 09:00 sohamsa@ .com Re: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Dear Sanjay ji, The principle that you have indicated about Saturn seems to totally fail in the following horoscope. Saturn aspects both Moon and Lagna by occupying 4th house. Interestingly, the native is running Sat-Moon period now. The native was never even close to anything called depression. I wonder it could be because Saturn is yogakaraka from Moon. Am I correct? DOB: Sep. 7, 1958 TOB: 6:15 am POB: Bangalore Regards, Krishna On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: om gurave namah Dear Haresh I don't think Thakur Ramakrishna was depressed at all. He was in constant joyous ecstasy. I think Moon in Saturn sign just makes the mind traditional or simply old. It is the drsti of shani, particularly graha drsti which is very depressing - be it on the Moon or Lagna or even the lagnesh. Whichever house shani is placed is the root of sorrow in life - this applies to varga as well. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa. com; Books: www.sagittariuspubl ications. com; Community: www.. org sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .com] On Behalf Of Haresh(Harry) Nathani 29 November 2009 10:36 sohamsa@ .com RE: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Dear Lakshmi Aspect of sani on moon, its conjunction, placement of moon in sani’s rashi, placement of sani in karka rashi always gives depression yog. Direct aspect & conjunction give a strong depression yog. HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103Subscribe on this link http://in.groups. / group/Chandra- AdityaAstroRemed ies For Professional Paid Consultancy mail request for charges to haresh1405 (AT) (DOT) com/hareshgnatha ni (AT) gmail (DOT) com or call +91 9867214103 sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .com] On Behalf Of Lakshmi Kary Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:39 PM sohamsa@ .com Re: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Hare Rama Krishna Dear Harish, Interesting chart, all upachaya lords are in dustanas. Is he depressed as well? best wishes lakshmi Haresh(Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 > sohamsa@ .com Cc: Chandra-AdityaAstro Remedies@ . co.in Sat, November 28, 2009 6:09:49 AM RE: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Dear Vivek If u hv a look at the chart of the native it clearly indicates that the native is a Posthumous child, meaning child born after the death of father when the child is in mother’s womb. With Rahu in his 5th house gives the native a strong sixth sense, but with rahu in his 6th house in transit will give him teething problems related to career and finance. The native also has Jupiter in his 8th house, it will not give him much financial problems when his Jupiter maha dasha starts, but Jupiter in 12th from 9th house will also give him bad luck, hence strengthening Jupiter by wearing its gemstone is not advisable as it will also give him increased debts, disease being lord of 6th house also. Strengthening of lagnesh & dhanesh can help. HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103Subscribe on this link http://in.groups. / group/Chandra- AdityaAstroRemed ies For Professional Paid Consultancy mail request for charges to haresh1405 (AT) (DOT) com/hareshgnatha ni (AT) gmail (DOT) com or call +91 9867214103 sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ . com] On Behalf Of Vivek Bajaj Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:36 PM sohamsa@ .com not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Dear Gurujans/Learned members Native was born after the death of his father. Struggled all his life. Elder brother was adopted by elder brother of father as he had no kids. he is very well to do but never helped native, instead kept pushing him into mote troubles. Started work at early age and had a good career but due to medical reasons had to spend all his savings. restarted career but never made big. every time any opportunity came, the circumstances changed and either the opportunity was lost or losses occurred. Please suggest if yellow sapphire would help? Jupitar dasa starting from 2016, will it be favorable. with my limited knowledge I just thought that yellow sapphire will help but want to seek guidance from Gurujans/learned members. DOB 30-01-1975 TOB 18:25 POB Yamunanagar (Haryana) Thanks and Regards Vivek Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 dear sanjayji, My real name is Atul Gupta. I made this id in the name of lokesh just to get mail for astrological threads. 1) As per my understandign there is difference in the outlook of sorrow & depression. A person can come under depression due to sorrow but not the vice versa. Is the Aspct of Shani on Lagna, Moon & lagna Lord makes the person depressed. What if the moon is also afflicted. 2) is the aspect of shani also makes the person slow decision maker , having low self esteem & lazy as such. zRgds, Atul --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath wrote: Sanjay Rath <sanjayrathRE: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains (for SANJAY RATH JI)sohamsa Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 2:04 PM om gurave namah Dear Atul Are you lokesh sharma sharma or atul gupta? Sorrow does not just come from saturn but also from its house significations - 6H shows sorrow coming from relationships 8H shows misfortunes bringing sorrow and 12H shows the undoing of the self which brings sorrow. All these houses are signified by Saturn. In the D9 chart these signs carry the energy of the rashi to become the vyayamsa, rogamsa and randhramsa. Planets in these navamsa in addition to the signs will also carry a saturn (sorrow, disease) tinge. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa. com; Books: www.sagittariuspubl ications. com; Community: www.. org sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of lokeshsharma sharma30 November 2009 22:06sohamsa@ .comRe: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains (for SANJAY RATH JI) dear gurujans, For this thread i am givng my details. My Shani does aspect the Lagna, moon & my Lagna lord. As such my nature is wiity, but i do come under depression. Till date i was putting the reason for that to my moon. Which is also severly afflicted. I always feel of quitting the job & can hardly handle tension. but main thing is once you know the problem, what is the solution for that. Respected gurujans can see the chart & comment. Details are as under. My details are as under. Name :Atul GuptaDate of Birth : 11 jan 1976,Place of Birth : kalka (haryana/HP) Latitude:30° 50' N Longitude:76° 55' E Time of Birth 23.53--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: not able to achive much inspite of bright brainssohamsa@ .comMonday, November 30, 2009, 3:31 PM klim krishna klimDear GurujiI have one chart when Mars in first and Shani in seventh brought serious mental disorders. The person need medical attention after some crazy action in the bank when the police or guards took him out. He is also deeply religious person and did lot for spiritual community.The exhilaration symptoms were there from time to time but most of his times he was just depressed and the vata was unbalanced which was seen in his moves etc.Most of mental problems (known to public) are due to vata unbalance. Here the spirituality is brought by drsti of vakri-Shani on both Moon Lagna/Lagnesh. This is maybe the third chart where I saw Shani deb in seventh house bringing high spirituality, all of them are unbalanced mentally. He is unhappy married. Manasa Tara from Moon and Lagna are lorded by Sun which is neecha in D9 and of course basic stuff like forth/fifth houses damage.Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru------------ --Consultations & Pageswww.rohinaa. comJyotish Tutorialswww.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarzMail:rgendarz@googlewave .comrgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) comSanjay Rath pisze: om gurave namah Dear Krishna Both Lagna and Moon have strong Agni planets - Moon has Mars in digbala while the Lagna has Sun in Leo. Some texts call this Mars-Saturn opposition as unmada yoga which is NOT madness. It is exhileration. The person laughs all the time, even in the face of death he or she will laugh. Thats the peculiar power of Mars when aspected by Saturn, the lord of its exaltation sign. Jupiter also causes unmada when aspected by Saturn from 7th house as Saturn is the lord of its debility sign. However, Jupiter will see sorrow and will laugh only after a very great struggle. This is the subtle difference. Agni is the one that enjoys vayu as it only glows more bright. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 +91 (011) 4504 8762 +91 (011) 4504 8762 +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa. com; Books: www.sagittariuspubl ications. com; Community: www.. org sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama30 November 2009 09:00sohamsa@ .comRe: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Dear Sanjay ji, The principle that you have indicated about Saturn seems to totally fail in the following horoscope. Saturn aspects both Moon and Lagna by occupying 4th house. Interestingly, the native is running Sat-Moon period now. The native was never even close to anything called depression. I wonder it could be because Saturn is yogakaraka from Moon. Am I correct? DOB: Sep. 7, 1958 TOB: 6:15 am POB: Bangalore Regards,Krishna On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: om gurave namah Dear Haresh I don't think Thakur Ramakrishna was depressed at all. He was in constant joyous ecstasy. I think Moon in Saturn sign just makes the mind traditional or simply old. It is the drsti of shani, particularly graha drsti which is very depressing - be it on the Moon or Lagna or even the lagnesh. Whichever house shani is placed is the root of sorrow in life - this applies to varga as well. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 +91 (011) 4504 8762 +91 (011) 4504 8762 +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa. com; Books: www.sagittariuspubl ications. com; Community: www.. org sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .com] On Behalf Of Haresh(Harry) Nathani29 November 2009 10:36sohamsa@ .com RE: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Dear Lakshmi Aspect of sani on moon, its conjunction, placement of moon in sani’s rashi, placement of sani in karka rashi always gives depression yog. Direct aspect & conjunction give a strong depression yog. HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103Subscribe on this link http://in.groups. / group/Chandra- AdityaAstroRemed iesFor Professional Paid Consultancy mail request for charges toharesh1405 /hareshgnatha ni (AT) gmail (DOT) com or call +91 9867214103 sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ .com] On Behalf Of Lakshmi KarySaturday, November 28, 2009 11:39 PMsohamsa@ .comRe: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Hare Rama Krishna Dear Harish, Interesting chart, all upachaya lords are in dustanas. Is he depressed as well? best wishes lakshmi Haresh(Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 >sohamsa@ .comCc: Chandra-AdityaAstro Remedies@ . co.inSat, November 28, 2009 6:09:49 AMRE: not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Dear Vivek If u hv a look at the chart of the native it clearly indicates that the native is a Posthumous child, meaning child born after the death of father when the child is in mother’s womb. With Rahu in his 5th house gives the native a strong sixth sense, but with rahu in his 6th house in transit will give him teething problems related to career and finance. The native also has Jupiter in his 8th house, it will not give him much financial problems when his Jupiter maha dasha starts, but Jupiter in 12th from 9th house will also give him bad luck, hence strengthening Jupiter by wearing its gemstone is not advisable as it will also give him increased debts, disease being lord of 6th house also. Strengthening of lagnesh & dhanesh can help. HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGER CELL +91 9867214103Subscribe on this link http://in.groups. / group/Chandra- AdityaAstroRemed iesFor Professional Paid Consultancy mail request for charges toharesh1405 /hareshgnatha ni (AT) gmail (DOT) com or call +91 9867214103 sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Vivek BajajWednesday, November 25, 2009 6:36 PMsohamsa@ .com not able to achive much inspite of bright brains Dear Gurujans/Learned members Native was born after the death of his father. Struggled all his life. Elder brother was adopted by elder brother of father as he had no kids. he is very well to do but never helped native, instead kept pushing him into mote troubles. Started work at early age and had a good career but due to medical reasons had to spend all his savings. restarted career but never made big. every time any opportunity came, the circumstances changed and either the opportunity was lost or losses occurred. Please suggest if yellow sapphire would help? Jupitar dasa starting from 2016, will it be favorable. with my limited knowledge I just thought that yellow sapphire will help but want to seek guidance from Gurujans/learned members. DOB 30-01-1975TOB 18:25POB Yamunanagar (Haryana) Thanks and RegardsVivek Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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