Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 ||Hare Rama Krishna|| Respected gfuruji's, please clarify in chart readig... +-----------+| | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+--------|| | |Ra Md|| | |Gk || | | || | | || | | ||-----------| Rasi |-----------||Ke | |GL AL|| | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+-----------------------+--------|| |MoMa |As Su |Ju Ve || | |MeR |Sa HL|| | | | || | UL | | || | | | |+------------+In above chart Ve and Me have a parivartana Yoga for bringing spouse, what i have to take, 7th from Mer(Libra) or 7th from Vevus(Virgo) for bringing spouse? Venus is debilated due to parivartan what happens to this debilated? Is after parivartana ve behave like a mercury as own house and debilation resolved? +------------+|Ju |Su Sa | |Ve || |AL | | || | | | || | | | || UL | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+---------||Ma | |Ke Gk|| | | || | | || | | || | Navamsa | A5 ||-----------| |-----------||As MeR| D-9 |Mo ||Ra | | || | | || | | A6 || | | ||-----------+---------------------+----------|| | |GL Md |HL || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+------------+ What is the difference between UL ans 7th house in Navamsa? Who is spouce for above chart Is Ketu or moon the lord of house in Navamasa? How can I check from which direction spouse will come and her education,family? I have some dought in Annual chat which was in belowUL- marraigeA8-endA6 -overcoming obstacles What this maya combinations means UL and A8,A5? During marrige some problems will arise?and how to detect what is the cause? If UL and A8,A6 in same house? +--------------+| |Ve Gk |HL |As || | | | || | | | || UL,A8 | | | || ,A5 | | | ||-----------+-----------------------+--------||Mo Sa | |Me Ju|| | |Ke || | Annual TP || | | | | Navamsa | ||-----------| |-----------||Ra | D-9 |Md AL|| | | || | | || | | || | | ||-----------+---------------------+----------|| | |Su GL |Ma || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+------------+ According to me he will marry in Jup: Tithi Ashtottari Dasa ,, Is it correct? but What A8 brings to him? Tithi Ashtottari Dasa of Janma tithi (useful especially in Tithi Pravesha charts): Maha Dasas: Moon: 2009-10-17 (4:28:11 am) - 2009-12-09 (12:26:15 pm) Mars: 2009-12-09 (12:26:15 pm) - 2010-01-06 (9:40:38 pm) Merc: 2010-01-06 (9:40:38 pm) - 2010-03-08 (11:52:15 am) Sat: 2010-03-08 (11:52:15 am) - 2010-04-13 (9:53:59 pm) Jup: 2010-04-13 (9:53:59 pm) - 2010-06-19 (4:34:02 pm) November 9, 1980Time: 5:30:21 amTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" regards, Hygreeva The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 klim krishna klim Dear Learner, Seventh lord from Shukra is Jupiter being in vyaya which gives problems in getting married as its sixth from seventh showing delays, as there are no planets in eigth this can be serious (and can give a lot of agitations and feelings as Jupiter in vyaya gives), Ketu in forth shows mother and family support is vital to start serious relationship; place of residence can bless or curse the marriage. This can be hard as normally Ketu in forth shows small hapiness from mother and when strong its only for short period and one can have losses through father (jataka bharanam). Lagnesh in vyaya with shatresh (sixth lord) from Surya makes one readily married (j.parijata) and with sixth lord from lagna can give dark complexion. planets in parivartana for some calculations behaves like in swakshetra (own sign) as Budha is on lagna this is good as its from tamas (nica) to rajas-satva; this parivartana with shukra makes one eager to give donations, but if with malefic they can make one easily furious (Bphs 26.10) shukra gets some help from budha being in kendra in udaya - this shows emerald / Gayatri mantra (lagna) / own birthcountry / family / fame as means to help Shukra (lagnesh - self-esteem/confidence, health, comforts). kendras occupied can give some defect in the body (ref. Jataka Tattva) here Shukra being weak can give ailing problems and roaming/travelling (most likely for occupation as Mangal is in vrscika). especially as the nica graha is in lagna and sixth lord is yuti. refer to Jataka parijata 11.27/11.33/11.34; BPHS 14.1 Shukra in twelfth makes one opposed to progress and lustful (j.bharanam 17.72) Upapada shows marriage circumstance and partner seen by you; Navamsa shows his/her independent live (and his/her family) and truth qualities If planet is in seventh house then it will show qualities except Moon per classics which gives qualities related to sign; seventh lord in eigth can give challenging relation; surely Moon will have strong impact on native as nodes takes the qualities of dispositor but also give their own like ketu here gives small head, hairy physique, nagging person, focus on looks etc.; bad yogas are Su+Me in first (Saravali is of opinion that it gives wise and longlived person 31.10); Ma+Mo in second; whilst good ones are strong 7L and with ben. this gives also wealthy and happy person (BPHS 21.4). There is also chapa yoga (nabhasa) which gives wandering in courageous person. brhat jataka says it gives happy the first and last part of life (12.16). 2L strong gives well-wisher, famous and benevolent person but three neecha grahas per Phaldeepika makes one poor and servant (same for Sa in Kanya) - so extremes will come trhough dasas. Family of spouse - lord of Upapada; direction - kalatresh from Shukra; pay attention that this is only for first relations quallified for the name 'vivaha' Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube.com/user/RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz rgendarz LearneR Vedic AstroG pisze:  ||Hare Rama Krishna|| Respected gfuruji's,  please clarify in chart readig...   +----------- --------- --------- --------- ------+ |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- ------| |          |                      |Ra Md| |          |                      |Gk      | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |----------- |        Rasi      |----------- | |Ke        |                    |GL  AL| |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- ------| |          |MoMa |As Su |Ju  Ve | |          |          |MeR   |Sa  HL| |          |          |          |          | |          |     UL |          |          | |          |          |          |          | +----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+ In above chart Ve and Me have a parivartana Yoga for bringing spouse, what i have to take, 7th from Mer(Libra) or 7th from Vevus(Virgo) for bringing spouse?  Venus is debilated due to parivartan what happens to this debilated? Is after parivartana ve behave like a mercury as own house and debilation resolved?   +----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+ |Ju       |Su  Sa |          |Ve      | |          |AL       |          |          | |          |           |          |          | |          |           |          |          | |   UL  |           |          |          | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- -------| |Ma      |                      |Ke Gk| |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |       Navamsa |  A5   | |----------- |                      |----------- | |As MeR|         D-9      |Mo      | |Ra      |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |  A6   | |          |                      |          | |----------- +-------- --------- ----+---- ------| |          |          |GL Md |HL      | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | +----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+     What is the difference between UL ans 7th house in Navamsa?  Who is spouce for above chart Is Ketu or moon the lord of house in Navamasa?  How can I check from which direction spouse will come and her education,family?        I have some dought in Annual chat which was in below UL- marraige A8-end A6 -overcoming obstacles  What this maya combinations means UL and A8,A5?  During marrige some problems will arise?and how to detect what is the cause?  If UL and A8,A6 in same house?   +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + |           |Ve Gk |HL     |As      | |           |          |          |          | |           |          |          |          | | UL,A8 |          |          |          | | ,A5    |          |          |          | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- ------| |Mo Sa |                       |Me  Ju| |          |                       |Ke      | |          |     Annual TP | |          |                      |        |          |       Navamsa |          | |----------- |                      |----------- | |Ra      |         D-9       |Md AL| |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |----------- +-------- --------- ----+---- ------| |          |          |Su GL |Ma      | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | +----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+   According to me he will marry in Jup: Tithi Ashtottari Dasa ,,  Is it correct? but What A8 brings to him?   Tithi Ashtottari Dasa of Janma tithi (useful especially in Tithi Pravesha charts):   Maha Dasas:    Moon: 2009-10-17 (4:28:11 am) - 2009-12-09 (12:26:15 pm)   Mars: 2009-12-09 (12:26:15 pm) - 2010-01-06 (9:40:38 pm)   Merc: 2010-01-06 (9:40:38 pm) - 2010-03-08 (11:52:15 am)   Sat: 2010-03-08 (11:52:15 am) - 2010-04-13 (9:53:59 pm)   Jup: 2010-04-13 (9:53:59 pm) - 2010-06-19 (4:34:02 pm)       Date:         November 9, 1980 Time:         5:30:21 am Time Zone:    5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place:        79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"  regards, Hygreeva The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Namskar V.Learneris this chart belong male of female..?regard2010/1/7 Rafa³ Gendarz <starsuponme klim krishna klim Dear Learner, Seventh lord from Shukra is Jupiter being in vyaya which gives problems in getting married as its sixth from seventh showing delays, as there are no planets in eigth this can be serious (and can give a lot of agitations and feelings as Jupiter in vyaya gives), Ketu in forth shows mother and family support is vital to start serious relationship; place of residence can bless or curse the marriage. This can be hard as normally Ketu in forth shows small hapiness from mother and when strong its only for short period and one can have losses through father (jataka bharanam). Lagnesh in vyaya with shatresh (sixth lord) from Surya makes one readily married (j.parijata) and with sixth lord from lagna can give dark complexion. planets in parivartana for some calculations behaves like in swakshetra (own sign) as Budha is on lagna this is good as its from tamas (nica) to rajas-satva; this parivartana with shukra makes one eager to give donations, but if with malefic they can make one easily furious (Bphs 26.10) shukra gets some help from budha being in kendra in udaya - this shows emerald / Gayatri mantra (lagna) / own birthcountry / family / fame as means to help Shukra (lagnesh - self-esteem/confidence, health, comforts). kendras occupied can give some defect in the body (ref. Jataka Tattva) here Shukra being weak can give ailing problems and roaming/travelling (most likely for occupation as Mangal is in vrscika). especially as the nica graha is in lagna and sixth lord is yuti. refer to Jataka parijata 11.27/11.33/11.34; BPHS 14.1 Shukra in twelfth makes one opposed to progress and lustful (j.bharanam 17.72) Upapada shows marriage circumstance and partner seen by you; Navamsa shows his/her independent live (and his/her family) and truth qualities If planet is in seventh house then it will show qualities except Moon per classics which gives qualities related to sign; seventh lord in eigth can give challenging relation; surely Moon will have strong impact on native as nodes takes the qualities of dispositor but also give their own like ketu here gives small head, hairy physique, nagging person, focus on looks etc.; bad yogas are Su+Me in first (Saravali is of opinion that it gives wise and longlived person 31.10); Ma+Mo in second; whilst good ones are strong 7L and with ben. this gives also wealthy and happy person (BPHS 21.4). There is also chapa yoga (nabhasa) which gives wandering in courageous person. brhat jataka says it gives happy the first and last part of life (12.16). 2L strong gives well-wisher, famous and benevolent person but three neecha grahas per Phaldeepika makes one poor and servant (same for Sa in Kanya) - so extremes will come trhough dasas. Family of spouse - lord of Upapada; direction - kalatresh from Shukra; pay attention that this is only for first relations quallified for the name 'vivaha' Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube.com/user/RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz rgendarz LearneR Vedic AstroG pisze: ||Hare Rama Krishna|| Respected gfuruji's, please clarify in chart readig... +----------- --------- --------- --------- ------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- ------| | | |Ra Md| | | |Gk | | | | | | | | | | | | | |----------- | Rasi |----------- | |Ke | |GL AL| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- ------| | |MoMa |As Su |Ju Ve | | | |MeR |Sa HL| | | | | | | | UL | | | | | | | | +----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+ In above chart Ve and Me have a parivartana Yoga for bringing spouse, what i have to take, 7th from Mer(Libra) or 7th from Vevus(Virgo) for bringing spouse? Venus is debilated due to parivartan what happens to this debilated? Is after parivartana ve behave like a mercury as own house and debilation resolved? +----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+ |Ju |Su Sa | |Ve | | |AL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | UL | | | | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- -------| |Ma | |Ke Gk| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Navamsa | A5 | |----------- | |----------- | |As MeR| D-9 |Mo | |Ra | | | | | | | | | | A6 | | | | | |----------- +-------- --------- ----+---- ------| | | |GL Md |HL | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+ What is the difference between UL ans 7th house in Navamsa? Who is spouce for above chart Is Ketu or moon the lord of house in Navamasa? How can I check from which direction spouse will come and her education,family? I have some dought in Annual chat which was in below UL- marraige A8-end A6 -overcoming obstacles What this maya combinations means UL and A8,A5? During marrige some problems will arise?and how to detect what is the cause? If UL and A8,A6 in same house? +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + | |Ve Gk |HL |As | | | | | | | | | | | | UL,A8 | | | | | ,A5 | | | | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- ------| |Mo Sa | |Me Ju| | | |Ke | | | Annual TP | | | | | | Navamsa | | |----------- | |----------- | |Ra | D-9 |Md AL| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |----------- +-------- --------- ----+---- ------| | | |Su GL |Ma | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+ According to me he will marry in Jup: Tithi Ashtottari Dasa ,, Is it correct? but What A8 brings to him? Tithi Ashtottari Dasa of Janma tithi (useful especially in Tithi Pravesha charts): Maha Dasas: Moon: 2009-10-17 (4:28:11 am) - 2009-12-09 (12:26:15 pm) Mars: 2009-12-09 (12:26:15 pm) - 2010-01-06 (9:40:38 pm) Merc: 2010-01-06 (9:40:38 pm) - 2010-03-08 (11:52:15 am) Sat: 2010-03-08 (11:52:15 am) - 2010-04-13 (9:53:59 pm) Jup: 2010-04-13 (9:53:59 pm) - 2010-06-19 (4:34:02 pm) November 9, 1980 Time: 5:30:21 am Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 79 E 09' 00 " , 18 N 26' 00 " regards, Hygreeva The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 || Hare Rama Krishna || Rafał Gendarz Guruji, Thanks for answers. "SJC-Atri-Gurudev-on-Marriage.pdf", while iam readig this file i came accross with the statement like"Out of these two(Rashi & navamsa charts) we consider that in Guru(L.O.H) in Rashi is stronger then Navamsa.", If its stronger in navamsa shall we take from Navamsa to bring spouse. Is it correct?. Thanks rafalji for your clarification. Regards,Hygreeva.--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Amit Puri <amitpuri20 wrote: Amit Puri <amitpuri20Re: clarify in chart reading UL & A8sohamsa Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 5:17 AM Namskar V.Learner is this chart belong male of female..? regard 2010/1/7 Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> klim krishna klimDear Learner, Seventh lord from Shukra is Jupiter being in vyaya which gives problems in getting married as its sixth from seventh showing delays, as there are no planets in eigth this can be serious (and can give a lot of agitations and feelings as Jupiter in vyaya gives), Ketu in forth shows mother and family support is vital to start serious relationship; place of residence can bless or curse the marriage. This can be hard as normally Ketu in forth shows small hapiness from mother and when strong its only for short period and one can have losses through father (jataka bharanam). Lagnesh in vyaya with shatresh (sixth lord) from Surya makes one readily married (j.parijata) and with sixth lord from lagna can give dark complexion. planets in parivartana for some calculations behaves like in swakshetra (own sign) as Budha is on lagna this is good as its from tamas (nica) to rajas-satva; this parivartana with shukra makes one eager to give donations, but if with malefic they can make one easily furious (Bphs 26.10) shukra gets some help from budha being in kendra in udaya - this shows emerald / Gayatri mantra (lagna) / own birthcountry / family / fame as means to help Shukra (lagnesh - self-esteem/ confidence, health, comforts). kendras occupied can give some defect in the body (ref. Jataka Tattva) here Shukra being weak can give ailing problems and roaming/travelling (most likely for occupation as Mangal is in vrscika). especially as the nica graha is in lagna and sixth lord is yuti. refer to Jataka parijata 11.27/11.33/ 11.34; BPHS 14.1 Shukra in twelfth makes one opposed to progress and lustful (j.bharanam 17.72) Upapada shows marriage circumstance and partner seen by you; Navamsa shows his/her independent live (and his/her family) and truth qualities If planet is in seventh house then it will show qualities except Moon per classics which gives qualities related to sign; seventh lord in eigth can give challenging relation; surely Moon will have strong impact on native as nodes takes the qualities of dispositor but also give their own like ketu here gives small head, hairy physique, nagging person, focus on looks etc..; bad yogas are Su+Me in first (Saravali is of opinion that it gives wise and longlived person 31.10); Ma+Mo in second; whilst good ones are strong 7L and with ben. this gives also wealthy and happy person (BPHS 21.4). There is also chapa yoga (nabhasa) which gives wandering in courageous person. brhat jataka says it gives happy the first and last part of life (12.16). 2L strong gives well-wisher, famous and benevolent person but three neecha grahas per Phaldeepika makes one poor and servant (same for Sa in Kanya) - so extremes will come trhough dasas. Family of spouse - lord of Upapada; direction - kalatresh from Shukra; pay attention that this is only for first relations quallified for the name 'vivaha'Regards,Rafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru------------ --Consultations & Pageshttp://rohinaa. com/Jyotish Tutorialswww.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarzMail:rgendarz@googlewave .comrgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) comLearneR Vedic AstroG pisze: ||Hare Rama Krishna|| Respected gfuruji's, please clarify in chart readig... +----------- --------- --------- --------- ------+| | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | ||----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- ------|| | |Ra Md|| | |Gk || | | || | | || | | ||----------- | Rasi |----------- ||Ke | |GL AL|| | | || | | || | | || | | ||----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- ------|| |MoMa |As Su |Ju Ve || | |MeR |Sa HL|| | | | || | UL | | || | | | |+----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+In above chart Ve and Me have a parivartana Yoga for bringing spouse, what i have to take, 7th from Mer(Libra) or 7th from Vevus(Virgo) for bringing spouse? Venus is debilated due to parivartan what happens to this debilated? Is after parivartana ve behave like a mercury as own house and debilation resolved? +----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+|Ju |Su Sa | |Ve || |AL | | || | | | || | | | || UL | | | ||----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- -------||Ma | |Ke Gk|| | | || | | || | | || | Navamsa | A5 ||----------- | |----------- ||As MeR| D-9 |Mo ||Ra | | || | | || | | A6 || | | ||----------- +-------- --------- ----+---- ------|| | |GL Md |HL || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+ What is the difference between UL ans 7th house in Navamsa? Who is spouce for above chart Is Ketu or moon the lord of house in Navamasa? How can I check from which direction spouse will come and her education,family? I have some dought in Annual chat which was in belowUL- marraigeA8-endA6 -overcoming obstacles What this maya combinations means UL and A8,A5? During marrige some problems will arise?and how to detect what is the cause? If UL and A8,A6 in same house? +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +| |Ve Gk |HL |As || | | | || | | | || UL,A8 | | | || ,A5 | | | ||----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- ------||Mo Sa | |Me Ju|| | |Ke || | Annual TP || | | | | Navamsa | ||----------- | |----------- ||Ra | D-9 |Md AL|| | | || | | || | | || | | ||----------- +-------- --------- ----+---- ------|| | |Su GL |Ma || | | | || | | | || | | | || | | | |+----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+ According to me he will marry in Jup: Tithi Ashtottari Dasa ,, Is it correct? but What A8 brings to him? Tithi Ashtottari Dasa of Janma tithi (useful especially in Tithi Pravesha charts): Maha Dasas: Moon: 2009-10-17 (4:28:11 am) - 2009-12-09 (12:26:15 pm) Mars: 2009-12-09 (12:26:15 pm) - 2010-01-06 (9:40:38 pm) Merc: 2010-01-06 (9:40:38 pm) - 2010-03-08 (11:52:15 am) Sat: 2010-03-08 (11:52:15 am) - 2010-04-13 (9:53:59 pm) Jup: 2010-04-13 (9:53:59 pm) - 2010-06-19 (4:34:02 pm) November 9, 1980Time: 5:30:21 amTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" regards, HygreevaThe INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 klim krishna klim Dear Learner I dont understand fully the question nor the quatation, but surely seventh in rasi shows attitude whilst seventh in navamsa shows partner. Maybe that will help. Upapada in Navamsa is shatrupada of spouse. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru ------ Consultations & Jyotish Articles http://rohinaa.com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube.com/user/RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz LearneR Vedic AstroG pisze:  || Hare Rama Krishna ||  Rafał Gendarz Guruji,       Thanks for answers.  "SJC-Atri-Gurudev- on-Marriage. pdf", while iam readig this file i came accross with the statement like "Out of these two(Rashi & navamsa charts) we consider that in Guru(L.O.H) in Rashi is stronger then Navamsa.",  If its stronger in navamsa shall we take from Navamsa to bring spouse. Is it correct?. Thanks rafalji for your clarification. Regards, Hygreeva. --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Amit Puri <amitpuri20 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Amit Puri <amitpuri20 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: clarify in chart reading UL & A8 sohamsa@ .com Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 5:17 AM  Namskar V.Learner is this chart belong male of female..? regard 2010/1/7 Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>  klim krishna klim Dear Learner, Seventh lord from Shukra is Jupiter being in vyaya which gives problems in getting married as its sixth from seventh showing delays, as there are no planets in eigth this can be serious (and can give a lot of agitations and feelings as Jupiter in vyaya gives), Ketu in forth shows mother and family support is vital to start serious relationship; place of residence can bless or curse the marriage. This can be hard as normally Ketu in forth shows small hapiness from mother and when strong its only for short period and one can have losses through father (jataka bharanam). Lagnesh in vyaya with shatresh (sixth lord) from Surya makes one readily married (j.parijata) and with sixth lord from lagna can give dark complexion. planets in parivartana for some calculations behaves like in swakshetra (own sign) as Budha is on lagna this is good as its from tamas (nica) to rajas-satva; this parivartana with shukra makes one eager to give donations, but if with malefic they can make one easily furious (Bphs 26.10) shukra gets some help from budha being in kendra in udaya - this shows emerald / Gayatri mantra (lagna) / own birthcountry / family / fame as means to help Shukra (lagnesh - self-esteem/ confidence, health, comforts). kendras occupied can give some defect in the body (ref. Jataka Tattva) here Shukra being weak can give ailing problems and roaming/travelling (most likely for occupation as Mangal is in vrscika). especially as the nica graha is in lagna and sixth lord is yuti. refer to Jataka parijata 11.27/11.33/ 11.34; BPHS 14.1 Shukra in twelfth makes one opposed to progress and lustful (j.bharanam 17.72) Upapada shows marriage circumstance and partner seen by you; Navamsa shows his/her independent live (and his/her family) and truth qualities If planet is in seventh house then it will show qualities except Moon per classics which gives qualities related to sign; seventh lord in eigth can give challenging relation; surely Moon will have strong impact on native as nodes takes the qualities of dispositor but also give their own like ketu here gives small head, hairy physique, nagging person, focus on looks etc..; bad yogas are Su+Me in first (Saravali is of opinion that it gives wise and longlived person 31.10); Ma+Mo in second; whilst good ones are strong 7L and with ben. this gives also wealthy and happy person (BPHS 21.4). There is also chapa yoga (nabhasa) which gives wandering in courageous person. brhat jataka says it gives happy the first and last part of life (12.16). 2L strong gives well-wisher, famous and benevolent person but three neecha grahas per Phaldeepika makes one poor and servant (same for Sa in Kanya) - so extremes will come trhough dasas. Family of spouse - lord of Upapada; direction - kalatresh from Shukra; pay attention that this is only for first relations quallified for the name 'vivaha' Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz@googlewave ..com rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com LearneR Vedic AstroG pisze:  ||Hare Rama Krishna|| Respected gfuruji's,  please clarify in chart readig...   +----------- --------- --------- --------- ------+ |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- ------| |          |                      |Ra Md| |          |                      |Gk      | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |----------- |        Rasi      |----------- | |Ke        |                    |GL  AL| |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- ------| |          |MoMa |As Su |Ju  Ve | |          |          |MeR   |Sa  HL| |          |          |          |          | |          |     UL |          |          | |          |          |          |          | +----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+ In above chart Ve and Me have a parivartana Yoga for bringing spouse, what i have to take, 7th from Mer(Libra) or 7th from Vevus(Virgo) for bringing spouse?  Venus is debilated due to parivartan what happens to this debilated? Is after parivartana ve behave like a mercury as own house and debilation resolved?   +----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+ |Ju       |Su  Sa |          |Ve      | |          |AL       |          |          | |          |           |          |          | |          |           |          |          | |   UL  |           |          |          | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- -------| |Ma      |                      |Ke Gk| |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |       Navamsa |  A5   | |----------- |                      |----------- | |As MeR|         D-9      |Mo      | |Ra      |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |  A6   | |          |                      |          | |----------- +-------- --------- ----+---- ------| |          |          |GL Md |HL      | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | +----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+     What is the difference between UL ans 7th house in Navamsa?  Who is spouce for above chart Is Ketu or moon the lord of house in Navamasa?  How can I check from which direction spouse will come and her education,family?        I have some dought in Annual chat which was in below UL- marraige A8-end A6 -overcoming obstacles  What this maya combinations means UL and A8,A5?  During marrige some problems will arise?and how to detect what is the cause?  If UL and A8,A6 in same house?   +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + |           |Ve Gk |HL     |As      | |           |          |          |          | |           |          |          |          | | UL,A8 |          |          |          | | ,A5    |          |          |          | |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- ------| |Mo Sa |                       |Me  Ju| |          |                       |Ke      | |          |     Annual TP | |          |                      |        |          |       Navamsa |          | |----------- |                      |----------- | |Ra      |         D-9       |Md AL| |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |          |                      |          | |----------- +-------- --------- ----+---- ------| |          |          |Su GL |Ma      | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | |          |          |          |          | +----------- --------- --------- --------- -------+   According to me he will marry in Jup: Tithi Ashtottari Dasa ,,  Is it correct? but What A8 brings to him?   Tithi Ashtottari Dasa of Janma tithi (useful especially in Tithi Pravesha charts):   Maha Dasas:    Moon: 2009-10-17 (4:28:11 am) - 2009-12-09 (12:26:15 pm)   Mars: 2009-12-09 (12:26:15 pm) - 2010-01-06 (9:40:38 pm)   Merc: 2010-01-06 (9:40:38 pm) - 2010-03-08 (11:52:15 am)   Sat: 2010-03-08 (11:52:15 am) - 2010-04-13 (9:53:59 pm)   Jup: 2010-04-13 (9:53:59 pm) - 2010-06-19 (4:34:02 pm)       Date:         November 9, 1980 Time:         5:30:21 am Time Zone:    5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place:        79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"  regards, Hygreeva The INTERNET now has a personality. 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