Can we reverse Arudha (to Sanjayji, Rafalji and others)

January 7, 2010

Dear Sanjayji and Rafalji,

Sanjayji, after much pondering, your answers do reveal the truth, but I am

afraid after reading the posts of so many people that this Arudha concept, in my

very humble opinion, is too frequently misunderstood. May I tell you what I have

understood (after some years of reading the posts of all the gurus on this

group) - please tell me if I am wrong - it is certainly hard to grasp the

concept.

In my opinion, Arudha is *NOT* simply the " perceptions of people " . Because if

you say that that is what it is, everyone simply ends up thinking " hey, I'm not

really like that, it's all these weird people who *think* I'm like that, but I'm

just totally different and totally misjudged " . And then, they all jump on the

bandwagon to figure out *how to correct everyone's misperceptions, and not

change at all themselves*. This, in my humble opinion again, is totally the

wrong comprehension of the concept.

Here is my considered opinion: A person is like a lake - at the bottom of the

lake there are lots of plants growing - symbolizing the person's nature, but no

one looking at the lake can see anything, EXCEPT all those plants which made it

all the way to the surface. The person, since he knows himself can see inside

the lake too, so he knows himself *completely*. The rest of the world can only

see the surface, so they only see the biggest plants that have actually made it

all the way to the top. The plants that made it to the top are not *illusions*,

they are as real as everything else including the plants below the surface. If

Arudha were all people's misperceptions then 11 from AL wouldnt be real material

gains, would they?

Consequently, when some Arudha is *not right*, it is *you*, (the person) who has

to change to strengthen more of your " positive " reality - bring those plants to

the surface, or weaken some of your " negative* reality so that it doesnt

manifest. The world is simply an unbiased external observer, that's *all*.

This is why, in my humble opinion, when we do upapada matching we match upapada

of the person to the Lagna of the spouse. Upapada is the *strongest*

requirements of *yours* that have popped out into full external view and *need*.

They must be matched by the complete nature of the person you are going to

marry, because marriage is the closest relationship of your life..

The above is what I think. I am not a guru, please wait for some guru to

approve/disapprove before you accept what I say..

Regards,

Sundeep

sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath wrote:

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> om gurave namah

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> Dear Yousuf

>

> Also one more sentence would make that more complete -

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> What we think is reality is, in reality, the arudha

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Sanjay Rath

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> sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

yousuf_i

> 03 January 2010 11:58 AM

> sohamsa

> Re: Can we reverse Arudha

>

> Dear madam,

> Pl check the archives.Yes you can reverse Arudha.Sanjay ji's CD also is

available.Please also go through Sarbani's posting

>

> sohamsa/message/9727

>

> There was a discussion on the reversing of Arudha

>

> Regards

> Yousuf

>

> sohamsa <sohamsa%40> , Subbu

Ganesh <getter19@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > Why try to change the image/arudha? Better focus on improving the reality

> > than others' perceptions.

> >

> > S G

> >

> > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:55 AM, hosabettu_srilnr <

> > hosabettu_srilnr@> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > Can somebody tell me how to change the arudha.If the world perceives you

as

> > > indifferent or lazy person, how can we make them think otherwise.Do we

take

> > > GK deity and pray.

> > > Thanks

> > > Modhini

> > >

> >

>

January 8, 2010

Dear Sanjay ji and all

Thanks for the great discussion.I understood what has been discussed so nicely.

So do you mean to say we have to peel these layers ( mentioned by Sanjay-ji) by

praying to appropriate planets & dieties to change the misconception of the

external world?

Can a uniformed policeman's appearance change to a Saint?

Modhini

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" We are layers of self-efinitions, about 16 at least and each layer has its

arudha, and is made of different material. It is like having 16 layer blanket

where each layer is of different material called Lagna and the design on the

layer is the arudha. "

--

sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent " <vedicastrostudent

wrote:

>

> Dear Sanjayji and Rafalji,

>

> Sanjayji, after much pondering, your answers do reveal the truth, but I am