Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 om gurave namah Dear Jyotisa Can a temple be consecrated (start functioning after homam etc) during Dakshina-ayana? If so what are the riders? Has anybody studied temple architecture to confirm that this can be done or cannot be done. My initial take on this was that it should not be done unless there are very compelling reasons for it. Further Uttara-ayana should be used for temples in northers hemisphere and dakshina-ayana for temples in southern hemisphere as the rtu chakra is reversed for them. This is more important as Sun is the significator of temples, and more so if this is a Shiva temple as Sun has Shiva as Pratyadhi devata. What are the circumstances and planetary positions for changing this? Can someone check other books on Muhurta and confirm. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Hare Rama Krishna Wow, I dont have a clue. But these good people are photocopying and translating all sorts of palm leaf texts and many others. Link to Saiva Agama texts/manuals and many other things http://www.himalayanacademy.com/resources/books/agama-texts.shtml with regards Lakshmi Sanjay Rath <sanjayrathsohamsa Cc: parasarahora Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 7:22:28 PM consecration of temple om gurave namah Dear Jyotisa Can a temple be consecrated (start functioning after homam etc) during Dakshina-ayana? If so what are the riders? Has anybody studied temple architecture to confirm that this can be done or cannot be done. My initial take on this was that it should not be done unless there are very compelling reasons for it. Further Uttara-ayana should be used for temples in northers hemisphere and dakshina-ayana for temples in southern hemisphere as the rtu chakra is reversed for them. This is more important as Sun is the significator of temples, and more so if this is a Shiva temple as Sun has Shiva as Pratyadhi devata. What are the circumstances and planetary positions for changing this? Can someone check other books on Muhurta and confirm. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa. com; Books: www.sagittariuspubl ications. com; Community: www.. org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Sanjay ji, Namaste. Please find below response received from my uncle to whom I had forwarded your post. He is not a member of this group and hence please let me know if you have further queries. Regards, Harish ==================================================================== Pranams Mahodaya, I have read the query posed as regards consecration of a deity. The muhurtha pathathi is clear on that aspect that a consecration of a temple or its reconsecration (naveekaranam) should be only on observing the ayanam and paksham. However there is a by-rule that permits consecration of ferocious deities such as bairavan, narasimhan, veerabadran etc in the dakshinayana too. however it is not in practice. Similarly, if by consecration in this context means only change of the ashtabandha of an existing consecration, then that could be done in the dakshinayana whereas all new prathishta as well as naveekarana prathishta should be done only in utharayana and in sukla paksha. Namaskarams Chandrasekhar sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath wrote: > > om gurave namah > > Dear Jyotisa > > Can a temple be consecrated (start functioning after homam etc) during Dakshina-ayana? If so what are the riders? Has anybody studied temple architecture to confirm that this can be done or cannot be done. > > My initial take on this was that it should not be done unless there are very compelling reasons for it. Further Uttara-ayana should be used for temples in northers hemisphere and dakshina-ayana for temples in southern hemisphere as the rtu chakra is reversed for them. This is more important as Sun is the significator of temples, and more so if this is a Shiva temple as Sun has Shiva as Pratyadhi devata. What are the circumstances and planetary positions for changing this? Can someone check other books on Muhurta and confirm. > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 > > Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Hare Rama KrsnaGuruji,This opens a much bigger question that I have had: how should we actually define uttar-ayana. It seems that it was originally the winter solstice, where the days begin to get longer, but since it has become associated with Makara Sankranti it has been riding a sidereal year, of which it is not really a sidereal calcualtion but a tropical calculation. If we truly are observing the Sun returning or the Sura increasing, then there is no relation to the signs, just actual ayanas (soltices). Namah ShivayaFreedomSanjay Rath <sanjayrathsohamsa Cc: parasarahora Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 8:52:28 AM consecration of temple om gurave namah Dear Jyotisa Can a temple be consecrated (start functioning after homam etc) during Dakshina-ayana? If so what are the riders? Has anybody studied temple architecture to confirm that this can be done or cannot be done. My initial take on this was that it should not be done unless there are very compelling reasons for it. Further Uttara-ayana should be used for temples in northers hemisphere and dakshina-ayana for temples in southern hemisphere as the rtu chakra is reversed for them. This is more important as Sun is the significator of temples, and more so if this is a Shiva temple as Sun has Shiva as Pratyadhi devata. What are the circumstances and planetary positions for changing this? Can someone check other books on Muhurta and confirm. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa. com; Books: www.sagittariuspubl ications. com; Community: www.. org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 om gurave namah Dear Freedom What we experience on earth is a miniscule of what is seen in the heavens. Tropical zodiac gives seasons on earth, the physical dimension while the sidereal zodiac gives the seasons in heaven, in the world of the devas. What we are experiencing on earth is the *physical light of daytime* increasing or decreasing after the equinoxes (not solstices). Solstices show when the Sun travels twords north hemisphere or south hemisphere. Now just behind the physical Sun is a metaphysical Sun called Narayana Who is not visible to the naked eye, but He is right there. He illumines svarga loka and all other lokas an keeps them connected. dhaayet sadaa savitri mandala madhyavarti naaraayana ....others can check out the Naaraayana dhaayana - how to meditate on Naarayana in the middle of the solar disc. Just as planets in our solar system obey the Sun and revolve around him, the pious people on earth go to a temple and revolve around it, in what is called parikrama. Similarly all these solar systems revolve around Him who is Narayana. Just as the center of the Sun (solar system) is the Brahma nabhi, so also the center of the cosmos is the Vishnu (Narayana) nabhi. In such a scenario, when we talk of prayers, we must bear in mind that the mood and state of the one we are going to pray. If you have some work with a senior officer, and land up in his house when he is busy with family or in toilet, then your prayers wil not be answered. You need to meet the offier in opportune time, in good mood in the office. Similarly, when the devas are asleep, of what use it is to pray? You can practise praying and that will increase bhakti, but would it not be better to approach them after they have woken up, finished bath, dressed up and gobe to office. Now that is why we use the sidereal zodiac in vedic astrology, and this is just one of the reasons. Vedic astrology is far more detailed than what is known to the public *in general*. For example people say that Gods go to sleep when dakshina ayana starts and blindly take the Karka sankranti which is the summer solstice in heaven. But the hard question is do the gods, especially Vishnu, the one who is ordained to recieve the offerings of the sacrifices, actually sleep on that very date? The answer is NO. Vishnu sleeps on Sravana Krishna Trutiiya ...on that particular night and even if Karka sankranti has occured, its effects of dakshina ayana do not start immediately. It starts only after Vishnu saayana. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Freedomji 10 January 2010 08:46 PM sohamsa Re: consecration of temple Hare Rama Krsna Guruji, This opens a much bigger question that I have had: how should we actually define uttar-ayana. It seems that it was originally the winter solstice, where the days begin to get longer, but since it has become associated with Makara Sankranti it has been riding a sidereal year, of which it is not really a sidereal calcualtion but a tropical calculation. If we truly are observing the Sun returning or the Sura increasing, then there is no relation to the signs, just actual ayanas (soltices). Namah Shivaya Freedom Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath sohamsa Cc: parasarahora Sun, January 10, 2010 8:52:28 AM consecration of temple om gurave namah Dear Jyotisa Can a temple be consecrated (start functioning after homam etc) during Dakshina-ayana? If so what are the riders? Has anybody studied temple architecture to confirm that this can be done or cannot be done. My initial take on this was that it should not be done unless there are very compelling reasons for it. Further Uttara-ayana should be used for temples in northers hemisphere and dakshina-ayana for temples in southern hemisphere as the rtu chakra is reversed for them. This is more important as Sun is the significator of temples, and more so if this is a Shiva temple as Sun has Shiva as Pratyadhi devata. What are the circumstances and planetary positions for changing this? Can someone check other books on Muhurta and confirm. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa. com; Books: www.sagittariuspubl ications. com; Community: www.. org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 om shree ganeshay namah om gurave namah Namaskar gurujee, Thanks for giving such enlightenment. Gurujee, I found in Agni Purana that Uttarayana is the time for building the temples but no much detail is given. There is many things said regarding doing Dev Prathishta of dev/devis so Agni Purana is a good one if somebody is looking for this type of detail. I have a query other than this. As far Hindu marriages are concerned they does not happen during Dev Shayan timings which is from Aashad Shukla Ekadashi(start of dev shayan) to Kartik Shukla Ekadashi(dev wake up from shayan). The other is MalMaas time. During this MalMaas time also marriage does not happens. Though marriage happened during Baisak maas and Jyeshta maas are said be the best marriages. Gurujee what is logic behind this. Please enlighten us. Namaste Suneet sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath wrote: > > om gurave namah > > Dear Freedom > > What we experience on earth is a miniscule of what is seen in the heavens. Tropical zodiac gives seasons on earth, the physical dimension while the sidereal zodiac gives the seasons in heaven, in the world of the devas. What we are experiencing on earth is the *physical light of daytime* increasing or decreasing after the equinoxes (not solstices). Solstices show when the Sun travels twords north hemisphere or south hemisphere. > > Now just behind the physical Sun is a metaphysical Sun called Narayana Who is not visible to the naked eye, but He is right there. He illumines svarga loka and all other lokas an keeps them connected. > > dhaayet sadaa savitri mandala madhyavarti > > naaraayana ....others can check out the Naaraayana dhaayana - how to meditate on Naarayana in the middle of the solar disc. > > Just as planets in our solar system obey the Sun and revolve around him, the pious people on earth go to a temple and revolve around it, in what is called parikrama. Similarly all these solar systems revolve around Him who is Narayana. > > Just as the center of the Sun (solar system) is the Brahma nabhi, so also the center of the cosmos is the Vishnu (Narayana) nabhi. > > In such a scenario, when we talk of prayers, we must bear in mind that the mood and state of the one we are going to pray. If you have some work with a senior officer, and land up in his house when he is busy with family or in toilet, then your prayers wil not be answered. You need to meet the offier in opportune time, in good mood in the office. Similarly, when the devas are asleep, of what use it is to pray? You can practise praying and that will increase bhakti, but would it not be better to approach them after they have woken up, finished bath, dressed up and gobe to office. > > Now that is why we use the sidereal zodiac in vedic astrology, and this is just one of the reasons. > > Vedic astrology is far more detailed than what is known to the public *in general*. For example people say that Gods go to sleep when dakshina ayana starts and blindly take the Karka sankranti which is the summer solstice in heaven. But the hard question is do the gods, especially Vishnu, the one who is ordained to recieve the offerings of the sacrifices, actually sleep on that very date? The answer is NO. Vishnu sleeps on Sravana Krishna Trutiiya ...on that particular night and even if Karka sankranti has occured, its effects of dakshina ayana do not start immediately. It starts only after Vishnu saayana. > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 > > Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Freedomji > 10 January 2010 08:46 PM > sohamsa > Re: consecration of temple > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Guruji, > This opens a much bigger question that I have had: how should we actually define uttar-ayana. It seems that it was originally the winter solstice, where the days begin to get longer, but since it has become associated with Makara Sankranti it has been riding a sidereal year, of which it is not really a sidereal calcualtion but a tropical calculation. If we truly are observing the Sun returning or the Sura increasing, then there is no relation to the signs, just actual ayanas (soltices). > > Namah Shivaya > Freedom > > _____ > > Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath > sohamsa > Cc: parasarahora > Sun, January 10, 2010 8:52:28 AM > consecration of temple > > > > om gurave namah > > Dear Jyotisa > > Can a temple be consecrated (start functioning after homam etc) during Dakshina-ayana? If so what are the riders? Has anybody studied temple architecture to confirm that this can be done or cannot be done. > > My initial take on this was that it should not be done unless there are very compelling reasons for it. Further Uttara-ayana should be used for temples in northers hemisphere and dakshina-ayana for temples in southern hemisphere as the rtu chakra is reversed for them. This is more important as Sun is the significator of temples, and more so if this is a Shiva temple as Sun has Shiva as Pratyadhi devata. What are the circumstances and planetary positions for changing this? Can someone check other books on Muhurta and confirm. > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 > > Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa. com; Books: www.sagittariuspubl ications. com; Community: www.. org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 OM SHRI LAKSHMI NARASIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Sanjay Ji,Muhurta Madhaveeyam and Tantra Samucchaya gives the details about Deva Pratishta Muhurtas in temples.Here one thing we have to consider is whether the temple is constructed as per Agama Shastra or not.In Agama Shastra,there will be a Garuda Kambha /pillar at the outside of the temple and inside we have Bali stones where the Bali as per Satwic method is given to Ashta Dikpalakas.Then comes the Garbha Gudi or the main Mandir where the Idol is installed.In Shiva temples, we find at the outer Prakaara where the Ashta Dikpalaka stones are installed,Shiva Ganas also.These Ashta Dikpalaka stones along with Shiva Ganas can be installed during Dakshinayana.These things can be seen in Durga and other Female Deity temples also.But as an exception I have seen these Ashta Dikpalaka Stones along with Vishnu Ganas like Kubera,Garuda etc. are installed in Guruvaayur Sri Krishna temple,Tiruvananthapuram Sri Anantha Shayana Temple and Perdoor Sri Anantha Padmanabha temple, near Udipi. One can instal these Ganas during Dakshinayana but the main Deity has to be installed and Pooja will have to be started during Uttarayana only.Before starting of the Poojas,Vastu Havan,if the Deity is Shiva, Rudra Havan have to be performed along with 108 Kalashas will be filled with water and initiated with Mantras of particular Deity.After this,the main Idol will be fixed with Ashta Bandha,ie., 8 kinds of gums by the Tantri of the temple in a auspicious Muhurta and then Kalashabhisheka of 108 Kalashas will be performed.This is called as " Ashta Bandha Brahma kalashabhisheka " Then the special Poojas will be performed on that day after invoking the Deity with Moola Mantra.,feeding of Brahmins etc, will be done after that. For all these functions, Uttarayana is most auspicious.Fixed Lagnas are best,8th and 12th should be free along with other conditions like Tithi, Nakshatra and Tithi have to be observed.Kumbha Month ie., when Surya is transitting over Kumbha Rashi,these auspicious functions should not be done except if Guru aspects Surya,then it is agreed to do during Kumbha Month and this is agreed by Narada Maharshi. When performing this installation ceremony, it should be noted that the Nakshatra on that day has to be Sampath/Kshema/Sadhaka/Parama Maitra of the temple owner or Main Priest of the temple and the Muhurta Lagna and his/her Natal Lagna should not be in 2-12 or 6-8 to each other and 8th should not be occupied by any planets.For Shiva Deity installation, Aridra is the best nakshatra followed by Swati and Shatabhisha. If you wanted any more information, please mail me in this list.With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath wrote: om gurave namah Dear Jyotisa Can a temple be consecrated (start functioning after homam etc) during Dakshina-ayana? If so what are the riders? Has anybody studied temple architecture to confirm that this can be done or cannot be done. My initial take on this was that it should not be done unless there are very compelling reasons for it. Further Uttara-ayana should be used for temples in northers hemisphere and dakshina-ayana for temples in southern hemisphere as the rtu chakra is reversed for them. This is more important as Sun is the significator of temples, and more so if this is a Shiva temple as Sun has Shiva as Pratyadhi devata. What are the circumstances and planetary positions for changing this? Can someone check other books on Muhurta and confirm. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org -- Ramadas Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 om gurave namah Dear Ramdas ji Thank you very much for all your inputs. I will be forwarding this to the concerned people. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramdas Hosabettu 11 January 2010 09:35 PM sohamsa Re: consecration of temple OM SHRI LAKSHMI NARASIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Sanjay Ji, Muhurta Madhaveeyam and Tantra Samucchaya gives the details about Deva Pratishta Muhurtas in temples.Here one thing we have to consider is whether the temple is constructed as per Agama Shastra or not.In Agama Shastra,there will be a Garuda Kambha /pillar at the outside of the temple and inside we have Bali stones where the Bali as per Satwic method is given to Ashta Dikpalakas.Then comes the Garbha Gudi or the main Mandir where the Idol is installed.In Shiva temples, we find at the outer Prakaara where the Ashta Dikpalaka stones are installed,Shiva Ganas also.These Ashta Dikpalaka stones along with Shiva Ganas can be installed during Dakshinayana.These things can be seen in Durga and other Female Deity temples also.But as an exception I have seen these Ashta Dikpalaka Stones along with Vishnu Ganas like Kubera,Garuda etc. are installed in Guruvaayur Sri Krishna temple,Tiruvananthapuram Sri Anantha Shayana Temple and Perdoor Sri Anantha Padmanabha temple, near Udipi. One can instal these Ganas during Dakshinayana but the main Deity has to be installed and Pooja will have to be started during Uttarayana only.Before starting of the Poojas,Vastu Havan,if the Deity is Shiva, Rudra Havan have to be performed along with 108 Kalashas will be filled with water and initiated with Mantras of particular Deity.After this,the main Idol will be fixed with Ashta Bandha,ie., 8 kinds of gums by the Tantri of the temple in a auspicious Muhurta and then Kalashabhisheka of 108 Kalashas will be performed.This is called as " Ashta Bandha Brahma kalashabhisheka " Then the special Poojas will be performed on that day after invoking the Deity with Moola Mantra.,feeding of Brahmins etc, will be done after that. For all these functions, Uttarayana is most auspicious.Fixed Lagnas are best,8th and 12th should be free along with other conditions like Tithi, Nakshatra and Tithi have to be observed.Kumbha Month ie., when Surya is transitting over Kumbha Rashi,these auspicious functions should not be done except if Guru aspects Surya,then it is agreed to do during Kumbha Month and this is agreed by Narada Maharshi. When performing this installation ceremony, it should be noted that the Nakshatra on that day has to be Sampath/Kshema/Sadhaka/Parama Maitra of the temple owner or Main Priest of the temple and the Muhurta Lagna and his/her Natal Lagna should not be in 2-12 or 6-8 to each other and 8th should not be occupied by any planets.For Shiva Deity installation, Aridra is the best nakshatra followed by Swati and Shatabhisha. If you wanted any more information, please mail me in this list. With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath wrote: om gurave namah Dear Jyotisa Can a temple be consecrated (start functioning after homam etc) during Dakshina-ayana? If so what are the riders? Has anybody studied temple architecture to confirm that this can be done or cannot be done. My initial take on this was that it should not be done unless there are very compelling reasons for it. Further Uttara-ayana should be used for temples in northers hemisphere and dakshina-ayana for temples in southern hemisphere as the rtu chakra is reversed for them. This is more important as Sun is the significator of temples, and more so if this is a Shiva temple as Sun has Shiva as Pratyadhi devata. What are the circumstances and planetary positions for changing this? Can someone check other books on Muhurta and confirm. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org -- Ramadas Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 OM SHRI LAKSHMI NARASIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Sanjay Ji,Thanks for your reply.If more informations are needed,please mail me back. With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath wrote: om gurave namah Dear Ramdas ji Thank you very much for all your inputs. I will be forwarding this to the concerned people. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramdas Hosabettu 11 January 2010 09:35 PM sohamsa Re: consecration of temple OM SHRI LAKSHMI NARASIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Sanjay Ji, Muhurta Madhaveeyam and Tantra Samucchaya gives the details about Deva Pratishta Muhurtas in temples.Here one thing we have to consider is whether the temple is constructed as per Agama Shastra or not.In Agama Shastra,there will be a Garuda Kambha /pillar at the outside of the temple and inside we have Bali stones where the Bali as per Satwic method is given to Ashta Dikpalakas.Then comes the Garbha Gudi or the main Mandir where the Idol is installed.In Shiva temples, we find at the outer Prakaara where the Ashta Dikpalaka stones are installed,Shiva Ganas also.These Ashta Dikpalaka stones along with Shiva Ganas can be installed during Dakshinayana.These things can be seen in Durga and other Female Deity temples also.But as an exception I have seen these Ashta Dikpalaka Stones along with Vishnu Ganas like Kubera,Garuda etc. are installed in Guruvaayur Sri Krishna temple,Tiruvananthapuram Sri Anantha Shayana Temple and Perdoor Sri Anantha Padmanabha temple, near Udipi. One can instal these Ganas during Dakshinayana but the main Deity has to be installed and Pooja will have to be started during Uttarayana only.Before starting of the Poojas,Vastu Havan,if the Deity is Shiva, Rudra Havan have to be performed along with 108 Kalashas will be filled with water and initiated with Mantras of particular Deity.After this,the main Idol will be fixed with Ashta Bandha,ie., 8 kinds of gums by the Tantri of the temple in a auspicious Muhurta and then Kalashabhisheka of 108 Kalashas will be performed.This is called as " Ashta Bandha Brahma kalashabhisheka " Then the special Poojas will be performed on that day after invoking the Deity with Moola Mantra.,feeding of Brahmins etc, will be done after that. For all these functions, Uttarayana is most auspicious.Fixed Lagnas are best,8th and 12th should be free along with other conditions like Tithi, Nakshatra and Tithi have to be observed.Kumbha Month ie., when Surya is transitting over Kumbha Rashi,these auspicious functions should not be done except if Guru aspects Surya,then it is agreed to do during Kumbha Month and this is agreed by Narada Maharshi. When performing this installation ceremony, it should be noted that the Nakshatra on that day has to be Sampath/Kshema/Sadhaka/Parama Maitra of the temple owner or Main Priest of the temple and the Muhurta Lagna and his/her Natal Lagna should not be in 2-12 or 6-8 to each other and 8th should not be occupied by any planets.For Shiva Deity installation, Aridra is the best nakshatra followed by Swati and Shatabhisha. If you wanted any more information, please mail me in this list. With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath wrote: om gurave namah Dear Jyotisa Can a temple be consecrated (start functioning after homam etc) during Dakshina-ayana? If so what are the riders? Has anybody studied temple architecture to confirm that this can be done or cannot be done. My initial take on this was that it should not be done unless there are very compelling reasons for it. Further Uttara-ayana should be used for temples in northers hemisphere and dakshina-ayana for temples in southern hemisphere as the rtu chakra is reversed for them. This is more important as Sun is the significator of temples, and more so if this is a Shiva temple as Sun has Shiva as Pratyadhi devata. What are the circumstances and planetary positions for changing this? Can someone check other books on Muhurta and confirm. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org -- Ramadas Rao -- Ramadas Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 om gurave namah Dear Suneet Thank you for confirming. I have read that source and that is why I was so sure of what I said. I am copying your information to the concerned people. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of kumarsuneet 11 January 2010 01:04 PM sohamsa Re: consecration of temple om shree ganeshay namah om gurave namah Namaskar gurujee, Thanks for giving such enlightenment. Gurujee, I found in Agni Purana that Uttarayana is the time for building the temples but no much detail is given. There is many things said regarding doing Dev Prathishta of dev/devis so Agni Purana is a good one if somebody is looking for this type of detail. I have a query other than this. As far Hindu marriages are concerned they does not happen during Dev Shayan timings which is from Aashad Shukla Ekadashi(start of dev shayan) to Kartik Shukla Ekadashi(dev wake up from shayan). The other is MalMaas time. During this MalMaas time also marriage does not happens. Though marriage happened during Baisak maas and Jyeshta maas are said be the best marriages. Gurujee what is logic behind this. Please enlighten us. Namaste Suneet sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath wrote: > > om gurave namah > > Dear Freedom > > What we experience on earth is a miniscule of what is seen in the heavens. Tropical zodiac gives seasons on earth, the physical dimension while the sidereal zodiac gives the seasons in heaven, in the world of the devas. What we are experiencing on earth is the *physical light of daytime* increasing or decreasing after the equinoxes (not solstices). Solstices show when the Sun travels twords north hemisphere or south hemisphere. > > Now just behind the physical Sun is a metaphysical Sun called Narayana Who is not visible to the naked eye, but He is right there. He illumines svarga loka and all other lokas an keeps them connected. > > dhaayet sadaa savitri mandala madhyavarti > > naaraayana ....others can check out the Naaraayana dhaayana - how to meditate on Naarayana in the middle of the solar disc. > > Just as planets in our solar system obey the Sun and revolve around him, the pious people on earth go to a temple and revolve around it, in what is called parikrama. Similarly all these solar systems revolve around Him who is Narayana. > > Just as the center of the Sun (solar system) is the Brahma nabhi, so also the center of the cosmos is the Vishnu (Narayana) nabhi. > > In such a scenario, when we talk of prayers, we must bear in mind that the mood and state of the one we are going to pray. If you have some work with a senior officer, and land up in his house when he is busy with family or in toilet, then your prayers wil not be answered. You need to meet the offier in opportune time, in good mood in the office. Similarly, when the devas are asleep, of what use it is to pray? You can practise praying and that will increase bhakti, but would it not be better to approach them after they have woken up, finished bath, dressed up and gobe to office. > > Now that is why we use the sidereal zodiac in vedic astrology, and this is just one of the reasons. > > Vedic astrology is far more detailed than what is known to the public *in general*. For example people say that Gods go to sleep when dakshina ayana starts and blindly take the Karka sankranti which is the summer solstice in heaven. But the hard question is do the gods, especially Vishnu, the one who is ordained to recieve the offerings of the sacrifices, actually sleep on that very date? The answer is NO. Vishnu sleeps on Sravana Krishna Trutiiya ...on that particular night and even if Karka sankranti has occured, its effects of dakshina ayana do not start immediately. It starts only after Vishnu saayana. > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 > > Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Freedomji > 10 January 2010 08:46 PM > sohamsa > Re: consecration of temple > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > Guruji, > This opens a much bigger question that I have had: how should we actually define uttar-ayana. It seems that it was originally the winter solstice, where the days begin to get longer, but since it has become associated with Makara Sankranti it has been riding a sidereal year, of which it is not really a sidereal calcualtion but a tropical calculation. If we truly are observing the Sun returning or the Sura increasing, then there is no relation to the signs, just actual ayanas (soltices). > > Namah Shivaya > Freedom > > _____ > > Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath > sohamsa > Cc: parasarahora > Sun, January 10, 2010 8:52:28 AM > consecration of temple > > > > om gurave namah > > Dear Jyotisa > > Can a temple be consecrated (start functioning after homam etc) during Dakshina-ayana? If so what are the riders? Has anybody studied temple architecture to confirm that this can be done or cannot be done. > > My initial take on this was that it should not be done unless there are very compelling reasons for it. Further Uttara-ayana should be used for temples in northers hemisphere and dakshina-ayana for temples in southern hemisphere as the rtu chakra is reversed for them. This is more important as Sun is the significator of temples, and more so if this is a Shiva temple as Sun has Shiva as Pratyadhi devata. What are the circumstances and planetary positions for changing this? Can someone check other books on Muhurta and confirm. > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 > > Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa. com; Books: www.sagittariuspubl ications. com; Community: www.. org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 om gurave namah Dear Harish Please thank your uncle for his learned views. This is a consecration and not naveekaran and he is so correct in confirming that it has to be in uttara-ayana. We are also observing paksha Å›ukla, tithi-chaturdasi for shiva temple We are taking exact date for uttara-ayana effect ending from Å›rÄvaṇa kṛṣṇa 3 instead of just the saá¹…krÄnti (Viṣṇu purÄṇa). The date proposed is Monday, ÅšrÄvaṇa, Å›ukla 14 ...just few days before the Viṣṇu sayana of Kṛṣṇa 3 DevatÄ is ÅšrÄ« Somanath Temple near Asheville, NC, USA and is not ugra at all. It is a brÄhmaṇa liñga as Somesvara is for supreme knowledge and is the laata (head) of lord Åšiva which is in focus. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Harish 10 January 2010 01:25 PM sohamsa Re: consecration of temple || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Sanjay ji, Namaste. Please find below response received from my uncle to whom I had forwarded your post. He is not a member of this group and hence please let me know if you have further queries. Regards, Harish ==================================================================== Pranams Mahodaya, I have read the query posed as regards consecration of a deity. The muhurtha pathathi is clear on that aspect that a consecration of a temple or its reconsecration (naveekaranam) should be only on observing the ayanam and paksham. However there is a by-rule that permits consecration of ferocious deities such as bairavan, narasimhan, veerabadran etc in the dakshinayana too. however it is not in practice. Similarly, if by consecration in this context means only change of the ashtabandha of an existing consecration, then that could be done in the dakshinayana whereas all new prathishta as well as naveekarana prathishta should be done only in utharayana and in sukla paksha. Namaskarams Chandrasekhar sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath wrote: > > om gurave namah > > Dear Jyotisa > > Can a temple be consecrated (start functioning after homam etc) during Dakshina-ayana? If so what are the riders? Has anybody studied temple architecture to confirm that this can be done or cannot be done. > > My initial take on this was that it should not be done unless there are very compelling reasons for it. Further Uttara-ayana should be used for temples in northers hemisphere and dakshina-ayana for temples in southern hemisphere as the rtu chakra is reversed for them. This is more important as Sun is the significator of temples, and more so if this is a Shiva temple as Sun has Shiva as Pratyadhi devata. What are the circumstances and planetary positions for changing this? Can someone check other books on Muhurta and confirm. > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 > > Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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