Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Dear All, Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga, Here Jupiter is fallen. Best Regards sohamsa , LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || >  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children. >  >  >  > Regards, > Hygreeva. > > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama wrote: > > > AS <bondmerama > Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell...... > sohamsa > Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM > > >  > > > > Respected Sirs > Namaskar. > Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates. > Kindly tell. > Regards. > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm Regards Vivek sohamsa From: bondmeramaDate: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa , LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa > Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 The yoga is not known as Ganapati Yoga. It is basically Parampara yoga and Ganapati is the devata of the yoga. You are right about nicha guru. AS Friday, January 15, 2010 4:09 PM sohamsa Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa , LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa > Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Respected Sir, Namaskar. Does it mean that Ganapati Yoga is formed only when Jupiter is fallen + Ketu. Is Parampara yoga related to religion or it applies to any tradition followed. Best Regards. Ashish. sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath wrote: > > The yoga is not known as Ganapati Yoga. It is basically Parampara yoga and Ganapati is the devata of the yoga. > You are right about nicha guru. > > > AS > Friday, January 15, 2010 4:09 PM > sohamsa > Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga > > > > Dear All, > Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga, > Here Jupiter is fallen. > Best Regards > > sohamsa , LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@> wrote: > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > >  > > Namaskar, > > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children. > >  > >  > >  > > Regards, > > Hygreeva. > > > > > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@> wrote: > > > > > > AS <bondmerama@> > > Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell...... > > sohamsa > > Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs > > Namaskar. > > Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates. > > Kindly tell. > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious.... Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajviveksohamsa Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AMRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .combondmerama (AT) (DOT) inFri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama@ ...>> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa@ .com> Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj,))))))))))))))))))))) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all.Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification?Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong.When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...).Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote:Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>sohamsa@ .comFri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AMRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .combondmerama (AT) (DOT) inFri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama@ ...>> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa@ .com> Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastrosohamsa Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj,)))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all.Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification?Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong.When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...).Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>sohamsa@ .comFri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AMRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .combondmerama (AT) (DOT) inFri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama@ ...>> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa@ .com> Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! All new Mail - Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj, namasteThis is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me.Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote:Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj,)))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all.Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification?Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong.When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...).Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>sohamsa@ .comFri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AMRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .combondmerama (AT) (DOT) inFri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama@ ...>> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa@ .com> Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! All new Mail - Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastrosohamsa Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj, namasteThis is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me.Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj,)))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all.Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification?Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong.When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...).Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>sohamsa@ .comFri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AMRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .combondmerama (AT) (DOT) inFri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama@ ...>> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa@ .com> Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! All new Mail - Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. Instant message from any web browser! Try the new Canada Messenger for the Web BETA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart. Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me. I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis. Thanks and Regards Vivek sohamsa From: manojsharma662000Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro >sohamsa Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj, namasteThis is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me.Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj,)))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all.Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification?Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong.When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...).Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>sohamsa@ .comFri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AMRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .combondmerama (AT) (DOT) inFri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama@ ...>> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa@ .com> Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 klim krishna klim Dear Vivek Quite good chart: 9H aspected by 9L makes one gets fortune in own land, and strong planet in ninth gives also fortune and wealth. This aspected by strong or friendly planet makes one influential (Saravali 32.29) These strong grahas in kona form Mrdanga yoga which gives status BPHS 38.17. All planets in 4th houses from Lagna makes one spiritual and doer of yajnas per Brhat Jataka and BPHS. Moon in Lagna is good for Karka Rasi - J.Bharanam 17.13/B.Jataka 20.4; 3L with Jupiter is also there which gives knowledge of śastra and courage (+steady virtous according to J.Parijata) (J.Tattva 3.17). Courage also comes from Rahu and Mars in third (J.Bharanam). 9L in kendra/trikona influenced by benefic gives lot of wealth, learning and fortune. Luck and fame also comes from Mo+Me in Lagna (J.Tattva 3.92). This also destroy the rajbhangayoga 'moon in lagna without any aspect makes rajayoga futile' The issues can be there related to money and work, especially resources and quallifications as 2nd and 10th lords are with malefics in 2nd (Su+Sa in 2nd - J.parijata 11.75) , 3rd. Also all planets except nodes in three signs can give wealth problem - this is known as Shoola yoga as Apart from 2nd house all planets are in Mo,Me,Ju signs which gives influence/status (J.Tattva 3.110). 9L strong in kendra with Lagnesh strong gives Lakshmi yoga. Most afflicted is Shukra and third bhava. Both rajasic grahas are neecha in D9 including AK vargottam nica - this will spoil lot of potential of the chart. So Kamala mantra will do wonders here. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru ------ Consultations & Jyotish Articles http://rohinaa.com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube.com/user/RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz Vivek Bajaj pisze:  Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji  Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart.  Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me.  I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis.  Thanks and Regards Vivek  sohamsa@ .com manojsharma662000@ Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800 Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > sohamsa@ .com Sun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AM Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, namaste This is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me. Warm regards, Maja Strbac --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM  Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > sohamsa@ .com Sat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PM Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, )))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all. Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification? Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong. When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...). Warm regards, Maja Strbac --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM  That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> sohamsa@ .com Fri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AM RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Dear Guru jis/Learned Members  Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise.  Warm Regards Vivek   sohamsa@ .com bondmerama (AT) (DOT) in Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Dear All, Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga, Here Jupiter is fallen. Best Regards sohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || >  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children. >  >  >  > Regards, > Hygreeva. > > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote: > > > AS <bondmerama@ ...> > Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell...... > sohamsa@ .com > Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM > > >  > > > > Respected Sirs > Namaskar. > Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates. > Kindly tell. > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal, namasteHave you ever met anyone who performed Mahavidya Sadhana for AK? Are you sure this is good and correct advice?Warm regards,Maja Štrbac--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:Rafał Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 8:34 AM klim krishna klim Dear Vivek Quite good chart: 9H aspected by 9L makes one gets fortune in own land, and strong planet in ninth gives also fortune and wealth. This aspected by strong or friendly planet makes one influential (Saravali 32.29) These strong grahas in kona form Mrdanga yoga which gives status BPHS 38.17. All planets in 4th houses from Lagna makes one spiritual and doer of yajnas per Brhat Jataka and BPHS. Moon in Lagna is good for Karka Rasi - J.Bharanam 17.13/B.Jataka 20.4; 3L with Jupiter is also there which gives knowledge of śastra and courage (+steady virtous according to J.Parijata) (J.Tattva 3.17). Courage also comes from Rahu and Mars in third (J.Bharanam) . 9L in kendra/trikona influenced by benefic gives lot of wealth, learning and fortune. Luck and fame also comes from Mo+Me in Lagna (J.Tattva 3.92). This also destroy the rajbhangayoga 'moon in lagna without any aspect makes rajayoga futile' The issues can be there related to money and work, especially resources and quallifications as 2nd and 10th lords are with malefics in 2nd (Su+Sa in 2nd - J.parijata 11.75) , 3rd. Also all planets except nodes in three signs can give wealth problem - this is known as Shoola yoga as Apart from 2nd house all planets are in Mo,Me,Ju signs which gives influence/status (J.Tattva 3.110). 9L strong in kendra with Lagnesh strong gives Lakshmi yoga. Most afflicted is Shukra and third bhava. Both rajasic grahas are neecha in D9 including AK vargottam nica - this will spoil lot of potential of the chart. So Kamala mantra will do wonders here. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru ------------ --------- --------- --------- Consultations & Jyotish Articles http://rohinaa. com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com Vivek Bajaj pisze: Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart. Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me. I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis. Thanks and Regards Vivek sohamsa@ .com manojsharma662000@ Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800 Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > sohamsa@ .com Sun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AM Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, namaste This is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me. Warm regards, Maja Strbac --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > sohamsa@ .com Sat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PM Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, )))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all. Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification? Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong. When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...). Warm regards, Maja Strbac --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> sohamsa@ .com Fri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AM RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm Regards Vivek sohamsa@ .com bondmerama (AT) (DOT) in Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All, Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga, Here Jupiter is fallen. Best Regards sohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || >  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children. >  >  >  > Regards, > Hygreeva. > > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote: > > > AS <bondmerama@ ...> > Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell...... > sohamsa@ .com > Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM > > >  > > > > Respected Sirs > Namaskar. > Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates. > Kindly tell. > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Om Gurave NamahDear Vivek, namasteHaving direct dialogue with you is much better option, nice that you included. First of all, no reason for panic at this stage, as we are still checking if your birth time is correct or not.Tell me when did you get married? As your Upa Pada lagna is in 2nd bhava with Surya and Sani, I guess your marriage was arranged according to tradition of your family (which is the case with majority of people of your age in your country, but I would like to check if this is true anyway). You are 31 years old at the moment, so I don't see any serious marriage delay in your case... As I understand tradition, condition number one, necessary to fulfill in order to become potential groom, is to finish education (at least) before entering marriage. This can not happen before age of 23-24 (if we are talking about higher education). As Sani is on Upa Pada lagna, here we should focus on 7th there from (Kumbha) in order to find more details about relation between you and your wife. It is nice to see that her Rashi Lagna fits perfectly to your Upa Pada. I think your relation will be so much stronger after birth of children, as Ketu (kula devata) is there in Mooltrikona receiving Graha drishti of Guru from lagna. No need to focus on afflicted neecha Sukra from 3rd bhava and its influence on 2nd from Kumbha, as Guru is strong enough to protect his rashi (Meena) and his beneficial influence is strong enough to sustain your marriage. This marriage should last, all you guys need is children. This is the best "remedy" to keep your marriage safe and sound. I can not give comments related to your wife's chart, as I need her blessing and permission to do such a thing. It is her privacy. Though I am allowed to cheer you up with good news: my knowledge in determining compatibility between partners is pretty much poor, but what I am familiar with at this stage allows me to say that there is perfect compatibility in domain of Chandra (representing both of your families, social circles and mind level) between the two of you. "Third party involvement" meaning-if there were any extramarital issues with other women?Longevity issues- if Kumbha is your Navamsha lagna, this brings neecha Sukra in 8th bhava, related to sustaining of marriage and this is maraka bhava for wife also. This is neecha, vargotama Atma Karaka (under curse in Rashi chart), believe me you would feel very unhappy in your marriage if this is in 8th bhava. Further, 9th bhava is 3rd from 7th, so it is related to death of spouse in a way. Lord is neecha Budh having graha drishti on neecha Sukra in 2nd from 7th. If Sukra and Budh were not neecha (without neecha banga in Navamsha), I would not insist that this combination could ever influence wife's longevity, as there is no 7th lord involved in this combination to satisfy snap shot combination for death of spouse. This way, I would stick to health issues and longevity decreased to some extent. Speaking of her health, I need you to tell me how is your wife doing? If she is fine and well, I suggest Makara Navamsha lagna.What is your father's occupation? If Kumbha is your Navamsha lagna, following scenario is possible: social and financial status of your family could have been very stable and good before you were born. After you were born, your family could have experienced huge problems related to status, reputation, some court cases, legal issues and similar could have cropped up. Was this the case?Also, after you got married, how would you describe quality of your life, your career and interpersonal relations with people from your surrounding? I need these answers.Keep in touch.Warm regards,Maja Štrbac--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek wrote:Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivekRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 1:48 AM Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart. Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me. I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis. Thanks and Regards Vivek sohamsa@ .commanojsharma662000@ Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj, namasteThis is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me.Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj,)))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all.Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification?Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong.When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...).Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>sohamsa@ .comFri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AMRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .combondmerama (AT) (DOT) inFri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama@ ...>> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa@ .com> Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 klim krishna klim Dear Surely its not easy, like wearing AK gem can sometimes give some burns of ego. What to do if you must go through dark into the ligth? Alternatively one can worship Prajapati. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru ------ Consultations & Jyotish Articles http://rohinaa.com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube.com/user/RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz Maja Štrbac pisze:  Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, namaste Have you ever met anyone who performed Mahavidya Sadhana for AK? Are you sure this is good and correct advice? Warm regards, Maja Štrbac --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa Monday, January 18, 2010, 8:34 AM  klim krishna klim Dear Vivek Quite good chart: 9H aspected by 9L makes one gets fortune in own land, and strong planet in ninth gives also fortune and wealth. This aspected by strong or friendly planet makes one influential (Saravali 32.29) These strong grahas in kona form Mrdanga yoga which gives status BPHS 38.17. All planets in 4th houses from Lagna makes one spiritual and doer of yajnas per Brhat Jataka and BPHS. Moon in Lagna is good for Karka Rasi - J.Bharanam 17.13/B.Jataka 20.4; 3L with Jupiter is also there which gives knowledge of śastra and courage (+steady virtous according to J.Parijata) (J.Tattva 3.17). Courage also comes from Rahu and Mars in third (J.Bharanam) . 9L in kendra/trikona influenced by benefic gives lot of wealth, learning and fortune. Luck and fame also comes from Mo+Me in Lagna (J.Tattva 3.92). This also destroy the rajbhangayoga 'moon in lagna without any aspect makes rajayoga futile' The issues can be there related to money and work, especially resources and quallifications as 2nd and 10th lords are with malefics in 2nd (Su+Sa in 2nd - J.parijata 11.75) , 3rd. Also all planets except nodes in three signs can give wealth problem - this is known as Shoola yoga as Apart from 2nd house all planets are in Mo,Me,Ju signs which gives influence/status (J.Tattva 3.110). 9L strong in kendra with Lagnesh strong gives Lakshmi yoga. Most afflicted is Shukra and third bhava. Both rajasic grahas are neecha in D9 including AK vargottam nica - this will spoil lot of potential of the chart. So Kamala mantra will do wonders here. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru ------------ --------- --------- --------- Consultations & Jyotish Articles http://rohinaa. com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com Vivek Bajaj pisze:  Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji  Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart.  Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me.  I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis.  Thanks and Regards Vivek  sohamsa@ .com manojsharma662000@ Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800 Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > sohamsa@ .com Sun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AM Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, namaste This is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me. Warm regards, Maja Strbac --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM  Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > sohamsa@ .com Sat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PM Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, )))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all. Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification? Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong. When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...). Warm regards, Maja Strbac --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM  That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> sohamsa@ ..com Fri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AM RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Dear Guru jis/Learned Members  Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise.  Warm Regards Vivek   sohamsa@ .com bondmerama (AT) (DOT) in Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Dear All, Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga, Here Jupiter is fallen. Best Regards sohamsa@ ..com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || >  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children. >  >  >  > Regards, > Hygreeva. > > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote: > > > AS <bondmerama@ ...> > Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell...... > sohamsa@ ..com > Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM > > >  > > > > Respected Sirs > Namaskar. > Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates. > Kindly tell. > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal, namasteWhy don't you be the first of the brave ones: perform Tara Mahavidya for 40 days and share your experience with us, please!!! Only after you do so, I will ask you one more time if you would give this kind of advice to anyone ever again.Warm regardsMaja Štrbac--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:Rafał Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:25 PM klim krishna klim Dear Surely its not easy, like wearing AK gem can sometimes give some burns of ego. What to do if you must go through dark into the ligth? Alternatively one can worship Prajapati. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru ------------ --------- --------- --------- Consultations & Jyotish Articles http://rohinaa. com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, namaste Have you ever met anyone who performed Mahavidya Sadhana for AK? Are you sure this is good and correct advice? Warm regards, Maja Štrbac --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Monday, January 18, 2010, 8:34 AM klim krishna klim Dear Vivek Quite good chart: 9H aspected by 9L makes one gets fortune in own land, and strong planet in ninth gives also fortune and wealth. This aspected by strong or friendly planet makes one influential (Saravali 32.29) These strong grahas in kona form Mrdanga yoga which gives status BPHS 38.17. All planets in 4th houses from Lagna makes one spiritual and doer of yajnas per Brhat Jataka and BPHS. Moon in Lagna is good for Karka Rasi - J.Bharanam 17.13/B.Jataka 20.4; 3L with Jupiter is also there which gives knowledge of śastra and courage (+steady virtous according to J.Parijata) (J.Tattva 3.17). Courage also comes from Rahu and Mars in third (J.Bharanam) . 9L in kendra/trikona influenced by benefic gives lot of wealth, learning and fortune. Luck and fame also comes from Mo+Me in Lagna (J.Tattva 3.92). This also destroy the rajbhangayoga 'moon in lagna without any aspect makes rajayoga futile' The issues can be there related to money and work, especially resources and quallifications as 2nd and 10th lords are with malefics in 2nd (Su+Sa in 2nd - J.parijata 11.75) , 3rd. Also all planets except nodes in three signs can give wealth problem - this is known as Shoola yoga as Apart from 2nd house all planets are in Mo,Me,Ju signs which gives influence/status (J.Tattva 3.110). 9L strong in kendra with Lagnesh strong gives Lakshmi yoga. Most afflicted is Shukra and third bhava. Both rajasic grahas are neecha in D9 including AK vargottam nica - this will spoil lot of potential of the chart. So Kamala mantra will do wonders here. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru ------------ --------- --------- --------- Consultations & Jyotish Articles http://rohinaa. com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com Vivek Bajaj pisze: Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart. Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me. I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis. Thanks and Regards Vivek sohamsa@ .com manojsharma662000@ Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800 Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > sohamsa@ .com Sun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AM Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, namaste This is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me. Warm regards, Maja Strbac --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > sohamsa@ .com Sat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PM Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, )))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all. Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification? Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong. When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...). Warm regards, Maja Strbac --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> sohamsa@ ..com Fri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AM RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm Regards Vivek sohamsa@ .com bondmerama (AT) (DOT) in Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All, Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga, Here Jupiter is fallen. Best Regards sohamsa@ ..com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || >  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children. >  >  >  > Regards, > Hygreeva. > > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote: > > > AS <bondmerama@ ...> > Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell...... > sohamsa@ ..com > Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM > > >  > > > > Respected Sirs > Namaskar. > Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates. > Kindly tell. > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! All new Mail - Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. Instant message from any web browser! 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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Dear Maja, Altough your tone is inappropriate let me answer this as benefics are in upachaya : my main curse is of Shukra as fifth lord is always the greatest benefic - I recite Kamala mantra (fifth house) recieved from sadhaka (ninth lord yuti). Rafal Gendarz Maja Štrbac pisze:  Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, namaste Why don't you be the first of the brave ones: perform Tara Mahavidya for 40 days and share your experience with us, please!!! Only after you do so, I will ask you one more time if you would give this kind of advice to anyone ever again. Warm regards Maja Štrbac --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:25 PM  klim krishna klim Dear Surely its not easy, like wearing AK gem can sometimes give some burns of ego. What to do if you must go through dark into the ligth? Alternatively one can worship Prajapati. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru ------------ --------- --------- --------- Consultations & Jyotish Articles http://rohinaa. com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze:  Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, namaste Have you ever met anyone who performed Mahavidya Sadhana for AK? Are you sure this is good and correct advice? Warm regards, Maja Štrbac --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Monday, January 18, 2010, 8:34 AM  klim krishna klim Dear Vivek Quite good chart: 9H aspected by 9L makes one gets fortune in own land, and strong planet in ninth gives also fortune and wealth. This aspected by strong or friendly planet makes one influential (Saravali 32.29) These strong grahas in kona form Mrdanga yoga which gives status BPHS 38.17. All planets in 4th houses from Lagna makes one spiritual and doer of yajnas per Brhat Jataka and BPHS. Moon in Lagna is good for Karka Rasi - J.Bharanam 17.13/B.Jataka 20.4; 3L with Jupiter is also there which gives knowledge of śastra and courage (+steady virtous according to J.Parijata) (J.Tattva 3.17). Courage also comes from Rahu and Mars in third (J.Bharanam) . 9L in kendra/trikona influenced by benefic gives lot of wealth, learning and fortune. Luck and fame also comes from Mo+Me in Lagna (J.Tattva 3.92). This also destroy the rajbhangayoga 'moon in lagna without any aspect makes rajayoga futile' The issues can be there related to money and work, especially resources and quallifications as 2nd and 10th lords are with malefics in 2nd (Su+Sa in 2nd - J.parijata 11.75) , 3rd. Also all planets except nodes in three signs can give wealth problem - this is known as Shoola yoga as Apart from 2nd house all planets are in Mo,Me,Ju signs which gives influence/status (J.Tattva 3.110). 9L strong in kendra with Lagnesh strong gives Lakshmi yoga. Most afflicted is Shukra and third bhava. Both rajasic grahas are neecha in D9 including AK vargottam nica - this will spoil lot of potential of the chart. So Kamala mantra will do wonders here. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru ------------ --------- --------- --------- Consultations & Jyotish Articles http://rohinaa. com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com Vivek Bajaj pisze:  Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji  Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart.  Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me.  I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis.  Thanks and Regards Vivek  sohamsa@ .com manojsharma662000@ Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800 Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > sohamsa@ .com Sun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AM Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, namaste This is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me. Warm regards, Maja Strbac --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM  Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > To: sohamsa@ .com Sat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PM Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, )))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all. Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification? Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong. When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...). Warm regards, Maja Strbac --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM  That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> To: sohamsa@ ..com Fri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AM RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Dear Guru jis/Learned Members  Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise.  Warm Regards Vivek   sohamsa@ .com bondmerama (AT) (DOT) in Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Dear All, Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga, Here Jupiter is fallen. Best Regards sohamsa@ ..com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || >  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children. >  >  >  > Regards, > Hygreeva. > > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote: > > > AS <bondmerama@ ...> > Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell...... > sohamsa@ ..com > Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM > > >  > > > > Respected Sirs > Namaskar. > Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates. > Kindly tell. > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! All new Mail - Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. Instant message from any web browser! 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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Hi Maja, What do you think of this chart: September 09, 2008 Place: Mississauga, Canada Time: 11. 43 AM Apart from Kal Sarpa, what else this native should be protected from... ms Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastrosohamsa Sent: Mon, January 18, 2010 3:09:19 PMRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Vivek, namasteHaving direct dialogue with you is much better option, nice that you included. First of all, no reason for panic at this stage, as we are still checking if your birth time is correct or not.Tell me when did you get married? As your Upa Pada lagna is in 2nd bhava with Surya and Sani, I guess your marriage was arranged according to tradition of your family (which is the case with majority of people of your age in your country, but I would like to check if this is true anyway). You are 31 years old at the moment, so I don't see any serious marriage delay in your case... As I understand tradition, condition number one, necessary to fulfill in order to become potential groom, is to finish education (at least) before entering marriage. This can not happen before age of 23-24 (if we are talking about higher education). As Sani is on Upa Pada lagna, here we should focus on 7th there from (Kumbha) in order to find more details about relation between you and your wife. It is nice to see that her Rashi Lagna fits perfectly to your Upa Pada. I think your relation will be so much stronger after birth of children, as Ketu (kula devata) is there in Mooltrikona receiving Graha drishti of Guru from lagna. No need to focus on afflicted neecha Sukra from 3rd bhava and its influence on 2nd from Kumbha, as Guru is strong enough to protect his rashi (Meena) and his beneficial influence is strong enough to sustain your marriage. This marriage should last, all you guys need is children. This is the best "remedy" to keep your marriage safe and sound. I can not give comments related to your wife's chart, as I need her blessing and permission to do such a thing. It is her privacy. Though I am allowed to cheer you up with good news: my knowledge in determining compatibility between partners is pretty much poor, but what I am familiar with at this stage allows me to say that there is perfect compatibility in domain of Chandra (representing both of your families, social circles and mind level) between the two of you. "Third party involvement" meaning-if there were any extramarital issues with other women?Longevity issues- if Kumbha is your Navamsha lagna, this brings neecha Sukra in 8th bhava, related to sustaining of marriage and this is maraka bhava for wife also. This is neecha, vargotama Atma Karaka (under curse in Rashi chart), believe me you would feel very unhappy in your marriage if this is in 8th bhava. Further, 9th bhava is 3rd from 7th, so it is related to death of spouse in a way. Lord is neecha Budh having graha drishti on neecha Sukra in 2nd from 7th. If Sukra and Budh were not neecha (without neecha banga in Navamsha), I would not insist that this combination could ever influence wife's longevity, as there is no 7th lord involved in this combination to satisfy snap shot combination for death of spouse. This way, I would stick to health issues and longevity decreased to some extent. Speaking of her health, I need you to tell me how is your wife doing? If she is fine and well, I suggest Makara Navamsha lagna.What is your father's occupation? If Kumbha is your Navamsha lagna, following scenario is possible: social and financial status of your family could have been very stable and good before you were born. After you were born, your family could have experienced huge problems related to status, reputation, some court cases, legal issues and similar could have cropped up. Was this the case?Also, after you got married, how would you describe quality of your life, your career and interpersonal relations with people from your surrounding? I need these answers.Keep in touch.Warm regards,Maja Štrbac--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comMonday, January 18, 2010, 1:48 AM Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart. Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me. I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis. Thanks and RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .commanojsharma662000@ Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj, namasteThis is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me.Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj,)))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all.Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification?Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong.When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...).Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>sohamsa@ .comFri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AMRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .combondmerama (AT) (DOT) inFri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama@ ...>> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa@ .com> Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal, namastePerhaps this email background would make you feel more comfortable while discussing with me. Let me add a smiley--------------> And one more flower, why not---------------> Feeling better?I understand that Pishacha Badhaka in 7th needs time to overcome feeling of threat whenever is confronted with differences in opinion... I do know which is the main curse in your chart. As I am reading every email sent by Sanjay Rath, there was one very interesting he was sending a little bit over a year ago. The one in which he was explaining that Brahmin Saapa is not main issue in your chart. You do remember your surprise after learning that Kalatra Saapa is main curse, right? Wanna link for this post?I was not talking about remedies for your curse, I was talking about performing Mahavidya Sadhana for AK. You never said a word about it... P.S. Cheers for starting Kamala, I am very happy to read that! BTW please check if same Mahavidya (Kamala) was advised to Freedom Cole. Would you do that for me?Warm regards,Maja Štrbac--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:Rafał Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogaTo: sohamsa Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 1:16 PM Dear Maja, Altough your tone is inappropriate let me answer this as benefics are in upachaya : my main curse is of Shukra as fifth lord is always the greatest benefic - I recite Kamala mantra (fifth house) recieved from sadhaka (ninth lord yuti). Rafal Gendarz Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, namaste Why don't you be the first of the brave ones: perform Tara Mahavidya for 40 days and share your experience with us, please!!! Only after you do so, I will ask you one more time if you would give this kind of advice to anyone ever again. Warm regards Maja Štrbac --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:25 PM klim krishna klim Dear Surely its not easy, like wearing AK gem can sometimes give some burns of ego. What to do if you must go through dark into the ligth? Alternatively one can worship Prajapati. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru ------------ --------- --------- --------- Consultations & Jyotish Articles http://rohinaa. com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, namaste Have you ever met anyone who performed Mahavidya Sadhana for AK? Are you sure this is good and correct advice? Warm regards, Maja Štrbac --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Monday, January 18, 2010, 8:34 AM klim krishna klim Dear Vivek Quite good chart: 9H aspected by 9L makes one gets fortune in own land, and strong planet in ninth gives also fortune and wealth. This aspected by strong or friendly planet makes one influential (Saravali 32.29) These strong grahas in kona form Mrdanga yoga which gives status BPHS 38.17. All planets in 4th houses from Lagna makes one spiritual and doer of yajnas per Brhat Jataka and BPHS. Moon in Lagna is good for Karka Rasi - J.Bharanam 17.13/B.Jataka 20.4; 3L with Jupiter is also there which gives knowledge of śastra and courage (+steady virtous according to J.Parijata) (J.Tattva 3.17). Courage also comes from Rahu and Mars in third (J.Bharanam) . 9L in kendra/trikona influenced by benefic gives lot of wealth, learning and fortune. Luck and fame also comes from Mo+Me in Lagna (J.Tattva 3.92). This also destroy the rajbhangayoga 'moon in lagna without any aspect makes rajayoga futile' The issues can be there related to money and work, especially resources and quallifications as 2nd and 10th lords are with malefics in 2nd (Su+Sa in 2nd - J.parijata 11.75) , 3rd. Also all planets except nodes in three signs can give wealth problem - this is known as Shoola yoga as Apart from 2nd house all planets are in Mo,Me,Ju signs which gives influence/status (J.Tattva 3.110). 9L strong in kendra with Lagnesh strong gives Lakshmi yoga. Most afflicted is Shukra and third bhava. Both rajasic grahas are neecha in D9 including AK vargottam nica - this will spoil lot of potential of the chart. So Kamala mantra will do wonders here. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru ------------ --------- --------- --------- Consultations & Jyotish Articles http://rohinaa. com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com Vivek Bajaj pisze: Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart. Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me. I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis. Thanks and Regards Vivek sohamsa@ .com manojsharma662000@ Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800 Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > sohamsa@ .com Sun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AM Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, namaste This is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me. Warm regards, Maja Strbac --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > To: sohamsa@ .com Sat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PM Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, )))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all. Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification? Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong. When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...). Warm regards, Maja Strbac --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> To: sohamsa@ ..com Fri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AM RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm Regards Vivek sohamsa@ .com bondmerama (AT) (DOT) in Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All, Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga, Here Jupiter is fallen. Best Regards sohamsa@ ..com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || >  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children. >  >  >  > Regards, > Hygreeva. > > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote: > > > AS <bondmerama@ ...> > Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell...... > sohamsa@ ..com > Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM > > >  > > > > Respected Sirs > Namaskar. > Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates. > Kindly tell. > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 klim krishna klim Dear Maja, Nice background Regards, Rafal Gendarz Jyotish Guru of SJC http://rohinaa.com/ rgendarz Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, namaste Perhaps this email background would make you feel more comfortable while discussing with me. Let me add a smiley--------------> And one more flower, why not---------------> Feeling better? I understand that Pishacha Badhaka in 7th needs time to overcome feeling of threat whenever is confronted with differences in opinion... I do know which is the main curse in your chart. As I am reading every email sent by Sanjay Rath, there was one very interesting he was sending a little bit over a year ago. The one in which he was explaining that Brahmin Saapa is not main issue in your chart. You do remember your surprise after learning that Kalatra Saapa is main curse, right? Wanna link for this post? I was not talking about remedies for your curse, I was talking about performing Mahavidya Sadhana for AK. You never said a word about it... P.S. Cheers for starting Kamala, I am very happy to read that! BTW please check if same Mahavidya (Kamala) was advised to Freedom Cole. Would you do that for me? Warm regards, Maja Štrbac --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa Monday, January 18, 2010, 1:16 PM  Dear Maja, Altough your tone is inappropriate let me answer this as benefics are in upachaya : my main curse is of Shukra as fifth lord is always the greatest benefic - I recite Kamala mantra (fifth house) recieved from sadhaka (ninth lord yuti). Rafal Gendarz Maja Štrbac pisze:  Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, namaste Why don't you be the first of the brave ones: perform Tara Mahavidya for 40 days and share your experience with us, please!!! Only after you do so, I will ask you one more time if you would give this kind of advice to anyone ever again. Warm regards Maja Štrbac --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:25 PM  klim krishna klim Dear Surely its not easy, like wearing AK gem can sometimes give some burns of ego. What to do if you must go through dark into the ligth? Alternatively one can worship Prajapati. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru ------------ --------- --------- --------- Consultations & Jyotish Articles http://rohinaa. com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze:  Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, namaste Have you ever met anyone who performed Mahavidya Sadhana for AK? Are you sure this is good and correct advice? Warm regards, Maja Štrbac --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Monday, January 18, 2010, 8:34 AM  klim krishna klim Dear Vivek Quite good chart: 9H aspected by 9L makes one gets fortune in own land, and strong planet in ninth gives also fortune and wealth. This aspected by strong or friendly planet makes one influential (Saravali 32.29) These strong grahas in kona form Mrdanga yoga which gives status BPHS 38.17. All planets in 4th houses from Lagna makes one spiritual and doer of yajnas per Brhat Jataka and BPHS. Moon in Lagna is good for Karka Rasi - J.Bharanam 17.13/B.Jataka 20.4; 3L with Jupiter is also there which gives knowledge of śastra and courage (+steady virtous according to J.Parijata) (J.Tattva 3.17). Courage also comes from Rahu and Mars in third (J.Bharanam) . 9L in kendra/trikona influenced by benefic gives lot of wealth, learning and fortune. Luck and fame also comes from Mo+Me in Lagna (J.Tattva 3.92). This also destroy the rajbhangayoga 'moon in lagna without any aspect makes rajayoga futile' The issues can be there related to money and work, especially resources and quallifications as 2nd and 10th lords are with malefics in 2nd (Su+Sa in 2nd - J.parijata 11.75) , 3rd. Also all planets except nodes in three signs can give wealth problem - this is known as Shoola yoga as Apart from 2nd house all planets are in Mo,Me,Ju signs which gives influence/status (J.Tattva 3.110). 9L strong in kendra with Lagnesh strong gives Lakshmi yoga. Most afflicted is Shukra and third bhava. Both rajasic grahas are neecha in D9 including AK vargottam nica - this will spoil lot of potential of the chart. So Kamala mantra will do wonders here. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru ------------ --------- --------- --------- Consultations & Jyotish Articles http://rohinaa. com/ Jyotish Tutorials www.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarz Mail: rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com Vivek Bajaj pisze:  Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji  Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart.  Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me.  I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis.  Thanks and Regards Vivek  sohamsa@ .com manojsharma662000@ Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800 Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > To: sohamsa@ .com Sun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AM Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, namaste This is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me. Warm regards, Maja Strbac --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM  Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > To: sohamsa@ .com Sat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PM Subject: Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Om Gurave Namah Dear Manoj, )))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all. Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification? Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong. When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...). Warm regards, Maja Strbac --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga sohamsa@ .com Saturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM  That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> To: sohamsa@ ..com Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AM Subject: RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Dear Guru jis/Learned Members  Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise.  Warm Regards Vivek   sohamsa@ .com bondmerama (AT) (DOT) in Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga  Dear All, Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga, Here Jupiter is fallen. Best Regards sohamsa@ ..com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || >  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children. >  >  >  > Regards, > Hygreeva. > > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote: > > > AS <bondmerama@ ...> > Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell...... > sohamsa@ ..com > Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM > > >  > > > > Respected Sirs > Namaskar. > Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates. > Kindly tell. > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Dear Maja ji Thanks a lot for your kind reply. Here are some major details for my life. I was married on 12th December 2008. My Father born in 1938 is a businessman and now not doing any active work except for some investments. He is having family history of diabetes and heart problems and is himself a Heart and blood Sugar patient. My mother is a housewife and she does not have any major medical problems except for overweight. Have always belonged to a well to do family but there was not much progress in our financial status and growth has always been stagnant. I've learnt from my parents not to believe in pump and show and lead a simple life. I'm a very stubborn person and don't usually change my decisions. I love to do charity and try to donate as much as possible. I have great love for literature and poetry and love art cinema more than commercial cinema. I passed my B.Com in 3rd division even when I was not that bad a student. I've always been haunted by Math and physics and complex calculations. I did my 12 in Science. After that i did some computer courses and worked here and there but my proper job started in Sep 2003 when I left India and came for a contract job of 2 months in Bangkok. here after 3 months i was offered a full time job and had to travel a lot in this job. I have recently been moved to plant location which has forced me to stay away from my wife as she is also working in the city. I was told this news on Dussehra day 2009. My Wife's DOB is 15th Apr 1980. Number 3, 6, 9 have mostly been lucky. most of my good friends also have these numbers as their date of birth. I have 2 brothers and 1 sister. i'm the youngest child. Both my brothers are in business. My sister is also married to a businessman. I don't remember much of my childhood but after I've grown up, I've seen mostly problems in business front in my dad's business. I can't say they were very huge but yes, if I compare to how well to do and progressing we used to be (as I was told), our growth got stagnant and also going down. My Marriage was a Love cum arranged Marriage. there was a lot of opposition from Girls family but later settled. The first few months of my marriage, my wife and I had lot of quarrels. We actually had very bitter fights and i had lost all interest and faith in the institution of marriage. Things are getting better, touch wood. We don't finght that much as my wife very cleverly avoids any such thing which can make me loose my temper. I won't say I'm satisfied but yes, i also feel its better to avoid any thing which can cause fights. My quality of life, I can't really say as there were both +ve and -ve changes but my career has taken a downfall and I've been landing in problems as explained earlier. I was once told by a palmist that My future will always be bright outside of the country of my birth and that I would probably die in a country which is not my birth country. Health wise, My wife is a bit fragile and although her health is more or less stable, she has improved over time but still she keeps getting small problems health wise. Regarding my wife's chart, should I ask her to send an email to you if she is interested in getting the things explained in her chart? Please let me know if any further information is required from my side. Once again thank you so much for your kindness to help. Kind Regards Vivek sohamsa From: majastrbacastroDate: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:09:19 -0800RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Vivek, namasteHaving direct dialogue with you is much better option, nice that you included. First of all, no reason for panic at this stage, as we are still checking if your birth time is correct or not.Tell me when did you get married? As your Upa Pada lagna is in 2nd bhava with Surya and Sani, I guess your marriage was arranged according to tradition of your family (which is the case with majority of people of your age in your country, but I would like to check if this is true anyway). You are 31 years old at the moment, so I don't see any serious marriage delay in your case... As I understand tradition, condition number one, necessary to fulfill in order to become potential groom, is to finish education (at least) before entering marriage. This can not happen before age of 23-24 (if we are talking about higher education). As Sani is on Upa Pada lagna, here we should focus on 7th there from (Kumbha) in order to find more details about relation between you and your wife. It is nice to see that her Rashi Lagna fits perfectly to your Upa Pada. I think your relation will be so much stronger after birth of children, as Ketu (kula devata) is there in Mooltrikona receiving Graha drishti of Guru from lagna. No need to focus on afflicted neecha Sukra from 3rd bhava and its influence on 2nd from Kumbha, as Guru is strong enough to protect his rashi (Meena) and his beneficial influence is strong enough to sustain your marriage. This marriage should last, all you guys need is children. This is the best "remedy" to keep your marriage safe and sound. I can not give comments related to your wife's chart, as I need her blessing and permission to do such a thing. It is her privacy. Though I am allowed to cheer you up with good news: my knowledge in determining compatibility between partners is pretty much poor, but what I am familiar with at this stage allows me to say that there is perfect compatibility in domain of Chandra (representing both of your families, social circles and mind level) between the two of you. "Third party involvement" meaning-if there were any extramarital issues with other women?Longevity issues- if Kumbha is your Navamsha lagna, this brings neecha Sukra in 8th bhava, related to sustaining of marriage and this is maraka bhava for wife also. This is neecha, vargotama Atma Karaka (under curse in Rashi chart), believe me you would feel very unhappy in your marriage if this is in 8th bhava. Further, 9th bhava is 3rd from 7th, so it is related to death of spouse in a way. Lord is neecha Budh having graha drishti on neecha Sukra in 2nd from 7th. If Sukra and Budh were not neecha (without neecha banga in Navamsha), I would not insist that this combination could ever influence wife's longevity, as there is no 7th lord involved in this combination to satisfy snap shot combination for death of spouse. This way, I would stick to health issues and longevity decreased to some extent. Speaking of her health, I need you to tell me how is your wife doing? If she is fine and well, I suggest Makara Navamsha lagna.What is your father's occupation? If Kumbha is your Navamsha lagna, following scenario is possible: social and financial status of your family could have been very stable and good before you were born. After you were born, your family could have experienced huge problems related to status, reputation, some court cases, legal issues and similar could have cropped up. Was this the case?Also, after you got married, how would you describe quality of your life, your career and interpersonal relations with people from your surrounding? I need these answers.Keep in touch.Warm regards,Maja Štrbac--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 1:48 AM Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart. Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me. I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis. Thanks and RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .commanojsharma662000@ Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj, namasteThis is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me.Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj,)))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all.Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification?Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong.When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...).Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>sohamsa@ .comFri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AMRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .combondmerama (AT) (DOT) inFri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama@ ...>> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa@ .com> Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Dear Rafal ji and Maja jiI would like to thank you for your kind time dicussing my horoscope and I hope that this chart of mine will not become a source of any bitter debate. I hope that the debates here will stay healthy and friendly and we all keep learning new things and spread the knowledge. I thank you both from the bottom of my heart for taking out time for me. Wishing you both All the very best in life. Warm Regards Vivek. sohamsa From: starsuponmeDate: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:31:34 +0100Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga klim krishna klimDear Maja,Nice background Regards,Rafal GendarzJyotish Guru of SJChttp://rohinaa.com/rgendarz'>http://rohinaa.com/rgendarz Maja ©trbac pisze: Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal, namastePerhaps this email background would make you feel more comfortable while discussing with me. Let me add a smiley--------------> And one more flower, why not---------------> Feeling better?I understand that Pishacha Badhaka in 7th needs time to overcome feeling of threat whenever is confronted with differences in opinion... I do know which is the main curse in your chart. As I am reading every email sent by Sanjay Rath, there was one very interesting he was sending a little bit over a year ago. The one in which he was explaining that Brahmin Saapa is not main issue in your chart. You do remember your surprise after learning that Kalatra Saapa is main curse, right? Wanna link for this post?I was not talking about remedies for your curse, I was talking about performing Mahavidya Sadhana for AK. You never said a word about it... P.S. Cheers for starting Kamala, I am very happy to read that! BTW please check if same Mahavidya (Kamala) was advised to Freedom Cole. Would you do that for me?Warm regards,Maja ©trbac--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafa³ Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafa³ Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 1:16 PM Dear Maja,Altough your tone is inappropriate let me answer this as benefics are in upachaya : my main curse is of Shukra as fifth lord is always the greatest benefic - I recite Kamala mantra (fifth house) recieved from sadhaka (ninth lord yuti).Rafal GendarzMaja ©trbac pisze: Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal, namasteWhy don't you be the first of the brave ones: perform Tara Mahavidya for 40 days and share your experience with us, please!!! Only after you do so, I will ask you one more time if you would give this kind of advice to anyone ever again.Warm regardsMaja ©trbac--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafa³ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafa³ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comMonday, January 18, 2010, 12:25 PM klim krishna klimDear Surely its not easy, like wearing AK gem can sometimes give some burns of ego. What to do if you must go through dark into the ligth?Alternatively one can worship Prajapati.Regards,Rafal GendarzSri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru------------ --------- --------- ---------Consultations & Jyotish Articleshttp://rohinaa. com/Jyotish Tutorialswww.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarzMail:rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) comMaja ©trbac pisze: Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal, namasteHave you ever met anyone who performed Mahavidya Sadhana for AK? Are you sure this is good and correct advice?Warm regards,Maja ©trbac--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Rafa³ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafa³ Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comMonday, January 18, 2010, 8:34 AM klim krishna klimDear VivekQuite good chart: 9H aspected by 9L makes one gets fortune in own land, and strong planet in ninth gives also fortune and wealth. This aspected by strong or friendly planet makes one influential (Saravali 32.29) These strong grahas in kona form Mrdanga yoga which gives status BPHS 38.17. All planets in 4th houses from Lagna makes one spiritual and doer of yajnas per Brhat Jataka and BPHS. Moon in Lagna is good for Karka Rasi - J.Bharanam 17.13/B.Jataka 20.4; 3L with Jupiter is also there which gives knowledge of ¶astra and courage (+steady virtous according to J.Parijata) (J.Tattva 3.17). Courage also comes from Rahu and Mars in third (J.Bharanam) . 9L in kendra/trikona influenced by benefic gives lot of wealth, learning and fortune. Luck and fame also comes from Mo+Me in Lagna (J.Tattva 3.92). This also destroy the rajbhangayoga 'moon in lagna without any aspect makes rajayoga futile' The issues can be there related to money and work, especially resources and quallifications as 2nd and 10th lords are with malefics in 2nd (Su+Sa in 2nd - J.parijata 11.75) , 3rd. Also all planets except nodes in three signs can give wealth problem - this is known as Shoola yoga as Apart from 2nd house all planets are in Mo,Me,Ju signs which gives influence/status (J.Tattva 3.110). 9L strong in kendra with Lagnesh strong gives Lakshmi yoga.Most afflicted is Shukra and third bhava. Both rajasic grahas are neecha in D9 including AK vargottam nica - this will spoil lot of potential of the chart. So Kamala mantra will do wonders here.Regards,Rafal GendarzSri Jagannath Center Jyotish Guru------------ --------- --------- ---------Consultations & Jyotish Articleshttp://rohinaa. com/Jyotish Tutorialswww.youtube. com/user/ RafalGendarzMail:rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) comVivek Bajaj pisze: Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart. Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me. I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis. Thanks and RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .commanojsharma662000@ Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja ©trbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj, namasteThis is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me.Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja ©trbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj,)))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all.Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification?Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong.When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...).Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>sohamsa@ .comFri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AMRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .combondmerama (AT) (DOT) inFri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama@ ...>> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa@ .com> Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Om Gurave NamahDear Vivek, namasteI'll have to be short this time. What you told me about your education and your abilities is useful hint for rectification. If Navamsha lagna is Makara, in that case there is rashi drishti of Ke-Gu on your lagna from Simha (" I've always been haunted by Math and physics and complex calculations."). Another thing, I think your Siddhamsha (D24) lagna should be Dhanu.Hardly you could ever adopt attitude of your parents to appreciate simple life with Rahu on Kumbha navamsha lagna This sounds like Makara very much.Your father's business was related with what?I will have to correct myself on events related to your UL, I guess all is supposed to be judged from Kumbha in your rashi chart. I will explain this next time. There was no long term relationship with another girl before you've met your wife, right? (Usually, the answer is "no", but it is useful to check). What exactly are your wife's health issues?Talk to you soon.Warm regards,Maja Štrbac--- On Tue, 1/19/10, Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek wrote:Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivekRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 2:08 AM Dear Maja ji Thanks a lot for your kind reply. Here are some major details for my life. I was married on 12th December 2008. My Father born in 1938 is a businessman and now not doing any active work except for some investments. He is having family history of diabetes and heart problems and is himself a Heart and blood Sugar patient. My mother is a housewife and she does not have any major medical problems except for overweight. Have always belonged to a well to do family but there was not much progress in our financial status and growth has always been stagnant. I've learnt from my parents not to believe in pump and show and lead a simple life. I'm a very stubborn person and don't usually change my decisions. I love to do charity and try to donate as much as possible. I have great love for literature and poetry and love art cinema more than commercial cinema. I passed my B.Com in 3rd division even when I was not that bad a student. I've always been haunted by Math and physics and complex calculations. I did my 12 in Science. After that i did some computer courses and worked here and there but my proper job started in Sep 2003 when I left India and came for a contract job of 2 months in Bangkok. here after 3 months i was offered a full time job and had to travel a lot in this job. I have recently been moved to plant location which has forced me to stay away from my wife as she is also working in the city. I was told this news on Dussehra day 2009. My Wife's DOB is 15th Apr 1980. Number 3, 6, 9 have mostly been lucky. most of my good friends also have these numbers as their date of birth. I have 2 brothers and 1 sister. i'm the youngest child. Both my brothers are in business. My sister is also married to a businessman. I don't remember much of my childhood but after I've grown up, I've seen mostly problems in business front in my dad's business. I can't say they were very huge but yes, if I compare to how well to do and progressing we used to be (as I was told), our growth got stagnant and also going down. My Marriage was a Love cum arranged Marriage. there was a lot of opposition from Girls family but later settled. The first few months of my marriage, my wife and I had lot of quarrels. We actually had very bitter fights and i had lost all interest and faith in the institution of marriage. Things are getting better, touch wood. We don't finght that much as my wife very cleverly avoids any such thing which can make me loose my temper. I won't say I'm satisfied but yes, i also feel its better to avoid any thing which can cause fights. My quality of life, I can't really say as there were both +ve and -ve changes but my career has taken a downfall and I've been landing in problems as explained earlier. I was once told by a palmist that My future will always be bright outside of the country of my birth and that I would probably die in a country which is not my birth country. Health wise, My wife is a bit fragile and although her health is more or less stable, she has improved over time but still she keeps getting small problems health wise. Regarding my wife's chart, should I ask her to send an email to you if she is interested in getting the things explained in her chart? Please let me know if any further information is required from my side. Once again thank you so much for your kindness to help. Kind Regards Vivek sohamsa@ .commajastrbacastro@ Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:09:19 -0800RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Vivek, namasteHaving direct dialogue with you is much better option, nice that you included. First of all, no reason for panic at this stage, as we are still checking if your birth time is correct or not.Tell me when did you get married? As your Upa Pada lagna is in 2nd bhava with Surya and Sani, I guess your marriage was arranged according to tradition of your family (which is the case with majority of people of your age in your country, but I would like to check if this is true anyway). You are 31 years old at the moment, so I don't see any serious marriage delay in your case... As I understand tradition, condition number one, necessary to fulfill in order to become potential groom, is to finish education (at least) before entering marriage. This can not happen before age of 23-24 (if we are talking about higher education). As Sani is on Upa Pada lagna, here we should focus on 7th there from (Kumbha) in order to find more details about relation between you and your wife. It is nice to see that her Rashi Lagna fits perfectly to your Upa Pada. I think your relation will be so much stronger after birth of children, as Ketu (kula devata) is there in Mooltrikona receiving Graha drishti of Guru from lagna. No need to focus on afflicted neecha Sukra from 3rd bhava and its influence on 2nd from Kumbha, as Guru is strong enough to protect his rashi (Meena) and his beneficial influence is strong enough to sustain your marriage. This marriage should last, all you guys need is children. This is the best "remedy" to keep your marriage safe and sound. I can not give comments related to your wife's chart, as I need her blessing and permission to do such a thing. It is her privacy. Though I am allowed to cheer you up with good news: my knowledge in determining compatibility between partners is pretty much poor, but what I am familiar with at this stage allows me to say that there is perfect compatibility in domain of Chandra (representing both of your families, social circles and mind level) between the two of you. "Third party involvement" meaning-if there were any extramarital issues with other women?Longevity issues- if Kumbha is your Navamsha lagna, this brings neecha Sukra in 8th bhava, related to sustaining of marriage and this is maraka bhava for wife also. This is neecha, vargotama Atma Karaka (under curse in Rashi chart), believe me you would feel very unhappy in your marriage if this is in 8th bhava. Further, 9th bhava is 3rd from 7th, so it is related to death of spouse in a way. Lord is neecha Budh having graha drishti on neecha Sukra in 2nd from 7th. If Sukra and Budh were not neecha (without neecha banga in Navamsha), I would not insist that this combination could ever influence wife's longevity, as there is no 7th lord involved in this combination to satisfy snap shot combination for death of spouse. This way, I would stick to health issues and longevity decreased to some extent. Speaking of her health, I need you to tell me how is your wife doing? If she is fine and well, I suggest Makara Navamsha lagna.What is your father's occupation? If Kumbha is your Navamsha lagna, following scenario is possible: social and financial status of your family could have been very stable and good before you were born. After you were born, your family could have experienced huge problems related to status, reputation, some court cases, legal issues and similar could have cropped up. Was this the case?Also, after you got married, how would you describe quality of your life, your career and interpersonal relations with people from your surrounding? I need these answers.Keep in touch.Warm regards,Maja Štrbac--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comMonday, January 18, 2010, 1:48 AM Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart. Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me. I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis. Thanks and RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .commanojsharma662000@ Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj, namasteThis is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me.Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj,)))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all.Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification?Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong.When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...).Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>sohamsa@ .comFri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AMRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .combondmerama (AT) (DOT) inFri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama@ ...>> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa@ .com> Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Maja jiMy Father's business was related to metal utensils. We used to have a factory too but we shut that down and sticked to Trading of the same. Although I was good in Studies and even Science it was only complex calculations and complex math which haunted me. I loved literature too. I am good at logics. I had a couple relations before I met my wife but for short period and I was not serious about them. There was nothing I was serious about or which lasted too long. My Wife's health issues are general ones, like cold and cough, stuff like that. Nothing very serious but irritating enough. Thanks a ton for your kind help. Warm Regards Vivek sohamsa From: majastrbacastroDate: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:12:21 -0800RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Vivek, namasteI'll have to be short this time. What you told me about your education and your abilities is useful hint for rectification. If Navamsha lagna is Makara, in that case there is rashi drishti of Ke-Gu on your lagna from Simha (" I've always been haunted by Math and physics and complex calculations."). Another thing, I think your Siddhamsha (D24) lagna should be Dhanu.Hardly you could ever adopt attitude of your parents to appreciate simple life with Rahu on Kumbha navamsha lagna This sounds like Makara very much.Your father's business was related with what?I will have to correct myself on events related to your UL, I guess all is supposed to be judged from Kumbha in your rashi chart. I will explain this next time. There was no long term relationship with another girl before you've met your wife, right? (Usually, the answer is "no", but it is useful to check). What exactly are your wife's health issues?Talk to you soon.Warm regards,Maja Štrbac--- On Tue, 1/19/10, Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 2:08 AM Dear Maja ji Thanks a lot for your kind reply. Here are some major details for my life. I was married on 12th December 2008. My Father born in 1938 is a businessman and now not doing any active work except for some investments. He is having family history of diabetes and heart problems and is himself a Heart and blood Sugar patient. My mother is a housewife and she does not have any major medical problems except for overweight. Have always belonged to a well to do family but there was not much progress in our financial status and growth has always been stagnant. I've learnt from my parents not to believe in pump and show and lead a simple life. I'm a very stubborn person and don't usually change my decisions. I love to do charity and try to donate as much as possible. I have great love for literature and poetry and love art cinema more than commercial cinema. I passed my B.Com in 3rd division even when I was not that bad a student. I've always been haunted by Math and physics and complex calculations. I did my 12 in Science. After that i did some computer courses and worked here and there but my proper job started in Sep 2003 when I left India and came for a contract job of 2 months in Bangkok. here after 3 months i was offered a full time job and had to travel a lot in this job. I have recently been moved to plant location which has forced me to stay away from my wife as she is also working in the city. I was told this news on Dussehra day 2009. My Wife's DOB is 15th Apr 1980. Number 3, 6, 9 have mostly been lucky. most of my good friends also have these numbers as their date of birth. I have 2 brothers and 1 sister. i'm the youngest child. Both my brothers are in business. My sister is also married to a businessman. I don't remember much of my childhood but after I've grown up, I've seen mostly problems in business front in my dad's business. I can't say they were very huge but yes, if I compare to how well to do and progressing we used to be (as I was told), our growth got stagnant and also going down. My Marriage was a Love cum arranged Marriage. there was a lot of opposition from Girls family but later settled. The first few months of my marriage, my wife and I had lot of quarrels. We actually had very bitter fights and i had lost all interest and faith in the institution of marriage. Things are getting better, touch wood. We don't finght that much as my wife very cleverly avoids any such thing which can make me loose my temper. I won't say I'm satisfied but yes, i also feel its better to avoid any thing which can cause fights. My quality of life, I can't really say as there were both +ve and -ve changes but my career has taken a downfall and I've been landing in problems as explained earlier.I was once told by a palmist that My future will always be bright outside of the country of my birth and that I would probably die in a country which is not my birth country. Health wise, My wife is a bit fragile and although her health is more or less stable, she has improved over time but still she keeps getting small problems health wise. Regarding my wife's chart, should I ask her to send an email to you if she is interested in getting the things explained in her chart? Please let me know if any further information is required from my side. Once again thank you so much for your kindness to help. Kind RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .commajastrbacastro@ Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:09:19 -0800RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Vivek, namasteHaving direct dialogue with you is much better option, nice that you included. First of all, no reason for panic at this stage, as we are still checking if your birth time is correct or not.Tell me when did you get married? As your Upa Pada lagna is in 2nd bhava with Surya and Sani, I guess your marriage was arranged according to tradition of your family (which is the case with majority of people of your age in your country, but I would like to check if this is true anyway). You are 31 years old at the moment, so I don't see any serious marriage delay in your case... As I understand tradition, condition number one, necessary to fulfill in order to become potential groom, is to finish education (at least) before entering marriage. This can not happen before age of 23-24 (if we are talking about higher education). As Sani is on Upa Pada lagna, here we should focus on 7th there from (Kumbha) in order to find more details about relation between you and your wife. It is nice to see that her Rashi Lagna fits perfectly to your Upa Pada. I think your relation will be so much stronger after birth of children, as Ketu (kula devata) is there in Mooltrikona receiving Graha drishti of Guru from lagna. No need to focus on afflicted neecha Sukra from 3rd bhava and its influence on 2nd from Kumbha, as Guru is strong enough to protect his rashi (Meena) and his beneficial influence is strong enough to sustain your marriage. This marriage should last, all you guys need is children. This is the best "remedy" to keep your marriage safe and sound. I can not give comments related to your wife's chart, as I need her blessing and permission to do such a thing. It is her privacy. Though I am allowed to cheer you up with good news: my knowledge in determining compatibility between partners is pretty much poor, but what I am familiar with at this stage allows me to say that there is perfect compatibility in domain of Chandra (representing both of your families, social circles and mind level) between the two of you. "Third party involvement" meaning-if there were any extramarital issues with other women?Longevity issues- if Kumbha is your Navamsha lagna, this brings neecha Sukra in 8th bhava, related to sustaining of marriage and this is maraka bhava for wife also. This is neecha, vargotama Atma Karaka (under curse in Rashi chart), believe me you would feel very unhappy in your marriage if this is in 8th bhava. Further, 9th bhava is 3rd from 7th, so it is related to death of spouse in a way. Lord is neecha Budh having graha drishti on neecha Sukra in 2nd from 7th. If Sukra and Budh were not neecha (without neecha banga in Navamsha), I would not insist that this combination could ever influence wife's longevity, as there is no 7th lord involved in this combination to satisfy snap shot combination for death of spouse. This way, I would stick to health issues and longevity decreased to some extent. Speaking of her health, I need you to tell me how is your wife doing? If she is fine and well, I suggest Makara Navamsha lagna.What is your father's occupation? If Kumbha is your Navamsha lagna, following scenario is possible: social and financial status of your family could have been very stable and good before you were born. After you were born, your family could have experienced huge problems related to status, reputation, some court cases, legal issues and similar could have cropped up. Was this the case?Also, after you got married, how would you describe quality of your life, your career and interpersonal relations with people from your surrounding? I need these answers.Keep in touch.Warm regards,Maja Štrbac--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comMonday, January 18, 2010, 1:48 AM Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart. Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me. I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis. Thanks and RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .commanojsharma662000@ Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj, namasteThis is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me.Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj,)))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all.Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification?Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong.When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...).Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>sohamsa@ .comFri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AMRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .combondmerama (AT) (DOT) inFri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama@ ...>> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa@ .com> Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear Maja Strbac. Namaskar. Please can you stretch the meaning you are explaining for parampara yoga,association with family business or lineage,or is it only concerned with religion. Traditions and lineage have very wide meanings. Looking for an answer. best regards Ashish. sohamsa , Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek wrote: > > > Dear Maja ji > > My Father's business was related to metal utensils. We used to have a factory too but we shut that down and sticked to Trading of the same. Although I was good in Studies and even Science it was only complex calculations and complex math which haunted me. I loved literature too. I am good at logics. I had a couple relations before I met my wife but for short period and I was not serious about them. There was nothing I was serious about or which lasted too long. My Wife's health issues are general ones, like cold and cough, stuff like that. Nothing very serious but irritating enough. > > Thanks a ton for your kind help. > > Warm Regards > Vivek > sohamsa > majastrbacastro > Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:12:21 -0800 > RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Vivek, namaste > > I'll have to be short this time. What you told me about your education and your abilities is useful hint for rectification. If Navamsha lagna is Makara, in that case there is rashi drishti of Ke-Gu on your lagna from Simha ( " I've always been haunted by Math and physics and complex calculations. " ). Another thing, I think your Siddhamsha (D24) lagna should be Dhanu. > > Hardly you could ever adopt attitude of your parents to appreciate simple life with Rahu on Kumbha navamsha lagna This sounds like Makara very much. > > Your father's business was related with what? > > I will have to correct myself on events related to your UL, I guess all is supposed to be judged from Kumbha in your rashi chart. I will explain this next time. There was no long term relationship with another girl before you've met your wife, right? (Usually, the answer is " no " , but it is useful to check). What exactly are your wife's health issues? > > Talk to you soon. > > Warm regards, > Maja Štrbac > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek wrote: > > > Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek > RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga > sohamsa > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 2:08 AM > > > > > Dear Maja ji > > > > Thanks a lot for your kind reply. Here are some major details for my life. > > I was married on 12th December 2008. My Father born in 1938 is a businessman and now not doing any active work except for some investments. He is having family history of diabetes and heart problems and is himself a Heart and blood Sugar patient. My mother is a housewife and she does not have any major medical problems except for overweight. Have always belonged to a well to do family but there was not much progress in our financial status and growth has always been stagnant. I've learnt from my parents not to believe in pump and show and lead a simple life. I'm a very stubborn person and don't usually change my decisions. I love to do charity and try to donate as much as possible. I have great love for literature and poetry and love art cinema more than commercial cinema. I passed my B.Com in 3rd division even when I was not that bad a student. I've always been haunted by Math and physics and complex calculations. I did my 12 in Science. After that i did some computer courses and worked here and there but my proper job started in Sep 2003 when I left India and came for a contract job of 2 months in Bangkok. here after 3 months i was offered a full time job and had to travel a lot in this job. I have recently been moved to plant location which has forced me to stay away from my wife as she is also working in the city. I was told this news on Dussehra day 2009. My Wife's DOB is 15th Apr 1980. Number 3, 6, 9 have mostly been lucky. most of my good friends also have these numbers as their date of birth. I have 2 brothers and 1 sister. i'm the youngest child. Both my brothers are in business. My sister is also married to a businessman. I don't remember much of my childhood but after I've grown up, I've seen mostly problems in business front in my dad's business. I can't say they were very huge but yes, if I compare to how well to do and progressing we used to be (as I was told), our growth got stagnant and also going down. > > My Marriage was a Love cum arranged Marriage. there was a lot of opposition from Girls family but later settled. The first few months of my marriage, my wife and I had lot of quarrels. We actually had very bitter fights and i had lost all interest and faith in the institution of marriage. Things are getting better, touch wood. We don't finght that much as my wife very cleverly avoids any such thing which can make me loose my temper. I won't say I'm satisfied but yes, i also feel its better to avoid any thing which can cause fights. My quality of life, I can't really say as there were both +ve and -ve changes but my career has taken a downfall and I've been landing in problems as explained earlier. > > I was once told by a palmist that My future will always be bright outside of the country of my birth and that I would probably die in a country which is not my birth country. > > Health wise, My wife is a bit fragile and although her health is more or less stable, she has improved over time but still she keeps getting small problems health wise. > > Regarding my wife's chart, should I ask her to send an email to you if she is interested in getting the things explained in her chart? > > Please let me know if any further information is required from my side. > > Once again thank you so much for your kindness to help. > > Kind Regards > Vivek > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > majastrbacastro@ > Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:09:19 -0800 > RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Vivek, namaste > > Having direct dialogue with you is much better option, nice that you included. > > First of all, no reason for panic at this stage, as we are still checking if your birth time is correct or not. > > Tell me when did you get married? > > As your Upa Pada lagna is in 2nd bhava with Surya and Sani, I guess your marriage was arranged according to tradition of your family (which is the case with majority of people of your age in your country, but I would like to check if this is true anyway). You are 31 years old at the moment, so I don't see any serious marriage delay in your case... As I understand tradition, condition number one, necessary to fulfill in order to become potential groom, is to finish education (at least) before entering marriage. This can not happen before age of 23-24 (if we are talking about higher education). As Sani is on Upa Pada lagna, here we should focus on 7th there from (Kumbha) in order to find more details about relation between you and your wife. It is nice to see that her Rashi Lagna fits perfectly to your Upa Pada. I think your relation will be so much stronger after birth of children, as Ketu (kula devata) is there in Mooltrikona receiving Graha drishti of Guru from lagna. No need to focus on afflicted neecha Sukra from 3rd bhava and its influence on 2nd from Kumbha, as Guru is strong enough to protect his rashi (Meena) and his beneficial influence is strong enough to sustain your marriage. This marriage should last, all you guys need is children. This is the best " remedy " to keep your marriage safe and sound. > > I can not give comments related to your wife's chart, as I need her blessing and permission to do such a thing. It is her privacy. Though I am allowed to cheer you up with good news: my knowledge in determining compatibility between partners is pretty much poor, but what I am familiar with at this stage allows me to say that there is perfect compatibility in domain of Chandra (representing both of your families, social circles and mind level) between the two of you. > > " Third party involvement " meaning-if there were any extramarital issues with other women? > > Longevity issues- if Kumbha is your Navamsha lagna, this brings neecha Sukra in 8th bhava, related to sustaining of marriage and this is maraka bhava for wife also. This is neecha, vargotama Atma Karaka (under curse in Rashi chart), believe me you would feel very unhappy in your marriage if this is in 8th bhava. Further, 9th bhava is 3rd from 7th, so it is related to death of spouse in a way. Lord is neecha Budh having graha drishti on neecha Sukra in 2nd from 7th. If Sukra and Budh were not neecha (without neecha banga in Navamsha), I would not insist that this combination could ever influence wife's longevity, as there is no 7th lord involved in this combination to satisfy snap shot combination for death of spouse. This way, I would stick to health issues and longevity decreased to some extent. > > Speaking of her health, I need you to tell me how is your wife doing? If she is fine and well, I suggest Makara Navamsha lagna. > > What is your father's occupation? If Kumbha is your Navamsha lagna, following scenario is possible: social and financial status of your family could have been very stable and good before you were born. After you were born, your family could have experienced huge problems related to status, reputation, some court cases, legal issues and similar could have cropped up. Was this the case? > > Also, after you got married, how would you describe quality of your life, your career and interpersonal relations with people from your surrounding? I need these answers. > > Keep in touch. > > Warm regards, > Maja Štrbac > > --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > > Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> > RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga > sohamsa@ .com > Monday, January 18, 2010, 1:48 AM > > > > > Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji > > Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart. > > Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me. > > I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis. > > Thanks and Regards > Vivek > > sohamsa@ .com > manojsharma662000@ > Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800 > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences > > > > > > Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > > sohamsa@ .com > Sun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AM > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Manoj, namaste > > This is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. > > Only facts make sense to me. > > Warm regards, > Maja Strbac > > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga > sohamsa@ .com > Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM > > > Hi Maja, > Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. > > > > > > Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > > sohamsa@ .com > Sat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PM > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Manoj, > > )))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all. > > Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: " You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested. " in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification? > > Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong. > > When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...). > > Warm regards, > Maja Strbac > > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga > sohamsa@ .com > Saturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM > That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... .. > Respectfully > ms > > > > > > Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> > sohamsa@ .com > Fri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AM > RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga > > > > Dear Guru jis/Learned Members > > Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. > > Warm Regards > Vivek > > > > sohamsa@ .com > bondmerama (AT) (DOT) in > Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 > Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga > > > > > Dear All, > Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga, > Here Jupiter is fallen. > Best Regards > > sohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote: > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > >  > > Namaskar, > > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children. > >  > >  > >  > > Regards, > > Hygreeva. > > > > > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > AS <bondmerama@ ...> > > Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell...... > > sohamsa@ .com > > Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs > > Namaskar. > > Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates. > > Kindly tell. > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Om Gurave NamahDear Vivek, namasteI read that last email you were sending after this which is bellow my email. Your wife is pretty much healthy woman. Considering your relationships before marriage, the only serious relationship you ever had is this with your wife. She is first Upa Pada, I am glad this is confirmed.Before I forget to say it (again): yes that is right, your wife would have to contact me directly (however she feels more comfortable-privately or here on forum) in order to allow me to interpret her chart.Opposition to your marriage was mostly from your father in law? When did you meet your wife?Eternal, life time painful spot of every Sukra Atma Karaka is its "Royal Highness-Institution of Marriage". What Sukra Atma Karaka is living and breathing for is love. You have read that you are having afflicted Sukra (curse) in your chart. This adds hardships on previous statement. Here on forum many times I came across questions such as "Will I have love marriage or arranged marriage?" and every time I am wondering what is on questioners mind... Love? Or falling in love/passion? There is a difference and it is so hard to explain it to someone who had never felt both, simply entered arranged marriage and remain there for rest of life. No matter what one says to a person who experienced only arranged marriage without falling in love to spouse or loving spouse, they can never understand that there is no big difference between deep love on one side and solid, quality relation inside arranged marriage on the other. There are no "butterflies in stomach" feeling, excitement, shivering, sweet insomnia when it comes to real, deep love. Are you following me so far Sukra Atma Karaka? :)"Butterflies" are present for few days, weeks, months... in best case for few years. Eventually they "fly away" and leave us in bills, loans, arguments over holiday destination, color of sofa, budget plans, "shall we rent/buy house/apartment here or there?", diapers, babies crying, "I am too tired talk, I had a very exhausting day at work", what are we going to have for dinner, who is earning more, etc. etc. etc. A warm welcome to cruel reality of every day life! So really, who is messed up more at birth: westerns or Indians? Westerns rarely learn difference between love and falling in love, so landing "cruel reality" after "butterflies stage" appears more as a plain crash, if love did not have enough time to plant roots before living together. Indians, on the other side, can hardly get rid of feeling as if they are missing something crucial if their only option is simply to enter arranged marriage and that is it as far as their emotional life. (It is probably scary idea for nowadays 20 year old in India, considering what they are coming across in global media and internet.) As a human being I can only be honest with you and say that I don't believe in institution of marriage either. At least not from that perspective of what majority of human beings aged 20-35 is expecting from partnership deep down inside, no matter which tradition/country/religion he or she belongs. Mutual love. Very small percentage of population is lucky to experience this, and majority of these lucky ones did not get everything on the plate as soon as they married. They probably had to put lot of effort and time to make things work.Bottom line, what every married human being needs in The Holy Institution of Marriage is mutual respect, understanding, both sides ready for compromises, cooperation and sharing responsibilities. Otherwise everyone included suffer terribly. Love is a nice asset, but it will not make it work if any single one of those above terms is not included. It will not plant roots and grow. It is hard enough to find a person who is ready to cooperate with another to such extent. Deep down inside, all human beings are very selfish. Institution of Marriage? Disappointments? Well, disappointments come after failed expectations. It depends on what one is expecting of marriage... See my point?I am not from India, so the first time I became familiar with Vedic viewpoints on marriage was only few years ago. I told you that as a human being I don't believe in Institution of Marriage: Well, why would I wish to push myself and accept so many responsibilities? Why would I ever wish to let anyone disturbing my privacy, habits and occupying half of my bed (while snoring, probably ? Two reasons:1. Children2. Children#1 Children is purely from human being level. I do wish to accomplish my self as a mother. #2 Children is from viewpoint of Dharma. As you are born in India, I am expecting that you do know that Dharma of every mortal human is continuing linage. This linage can be spiritual, within parampara, if one decides to renounce material aspects of life. In this option one is adopting "spiritual children" or shishyas (students). Second option is to continue family linage and have biological or adopted children. We are here for the sake of creation and we are obligated to create our own children in order to pay our debts to our Pitris (ancestors). Are you familiar with these principles? If you are, in that case you do understand that you did not marry for your own benefit or pleasure (if this becomes part of your marriage, great!). You married for having children and share responsibilities with your wife in order to up bring them in to greatest possible human beings. Life really makes no sense without children. If you don't believe me, just search for married people who never decided to raise a child (even though they could) and observe their lives. From this viewpoint Institution of Marriage is sacred. One may believe in it or not, but it is sacred because it provides us fulfilling significant portion of our Dharma. (As far as I am concerned, this paragraph is 80% of my motivation to enter marriage some day. God, I really hope I will have XXXL bed and enough wax for my ears to survive that. :)For good and bad marriage it takes two and it is always easier to blame the other side when something goes wrong. All human beings find hard to face own failure and responsibility... Think about your actions and actions of your wife again, please. She learned to avoid mentioning something that might make you loose your temper. Good. Now is the best time to teach her how to make you talk, smile, feel that you belong there with her, make you happy... She needs you to show her how. You are where you are and there is no turning back. Divorce is always an option, but don't leave before you are sure you tried EVERYTHING to make it work. Replacing her with another woman maybe would be as good enough as changing a package to the same problem, so you need to try to pull the best out of current situation. You both need to become team players. I can try to help a little, rest is really on you.As mentioned earlier, Sukra in your chart is afflicted (under curse), but main problem in your chart is Kala Sarpa Yoga (KSY-all Grahas distributed zodiacally from Rashi occupied by Ketu to Rashi occpuied by Rahu). Nodes are influencing 2nd bhava from Upa Pada. After you told me about circumstances of the way you entered your marriage, I do believe that described is related to Kumbha Rashi. Co lord Rahu is in 3rd bhava with Sukra and Mangal, so you fell in love and choice of spouse was mainly your decision. You were probably head over heels in love... It must have been very intensive emotional experience considering that Rahu is with Sukra Atma Karaka. Currently Rahu antar dasha is running, making Sukra and KSY issues very much in focus.Giving remedies for KSY is easy task if there is benefic with nodes. In your case that would be neecha Sukra. As neecha Grahas are always related with Devi forms, Kamala Mahavidya would be perfect remedy to break KSY. But... Mahavidya Sadhana is always very intensive experience, since performer gets opportunity to burn significant amount of bad Karma within 40 days (to speed up process of purification in a way). This process is very painful but worth vile, as it would probably take few years or even longer to accoplish same results with another kind of worship. Atma Karaka by it self is delivering most intensive karmic experiences (usually painful, but again-worth vile) to each and every one of us. Combination of Atma Karaka and Mahavidya Sadhana is overextended intensity for fragile human mind. One of possible "side effects" of this combination is mental instability. I do think your Dhishakti, intelligence and mind are very strong, considering all those blessings on your lagna, but you are just a man who is worried about his marriage, financial existence and employment-meaning you are "regular civilian", making you very fragile for this type of Sadhana.Alternative for Mahavidya is Jyotirlinga mantra for Graha which is joining nodes. Shiva in form of Tryambakkeshvaya is Jyotirlinga for Sukra. This will exalt Sukra, take care of KSY, additionally purify occupants in Meena and give strength to this Rashi which is sustaining your marriage (2nd from Kumbha). You get multiple benefits from this mantra:Om Haum Om Jum Sah Bhurbhuva Svah Tryambakkam Yajamahe Sugandhim Pushtivardhanam Urvarukameva Bandhanaam Mrityormoksheeya Maamritaat Bhur Bhuva Svah Roam Jum Sah Haum OmThis is Mahamrityunjaya Mantra and you are supposed to start it on any Monday, performing it 108 times (one Mala) in the morning and 108 times at the sunset. Do it for 40 days. After that you wait next Monday to start another 40 days of Shiva worship. There is catch with Jyotirlinga. I don't advise you to start it unless you are fully prepared to be nothing but a loving husband to your wife. You must be very careful, there are no excuses. She can behave as she likes, be unbearable, impulsive, stubborn, behaving like a spoiled breath, I am so sorry, but all you are allowed to do is to behave like you are preparing for "Husband of decade" contest. You are not allowed to hurt her, insult her even a little bit, to raise your voice at her or to make her unhappy in any way. Whenever you do anything similar you will be "reminded" not to repeat it, because things can get very difficult again. Also, Sukra is related to couples and young, unmarried ladies, so this is place No2 and No3 on your personal list of sacred and divine. Ah yes, add Institution of Marriage as No4, as this institution is also related to Sukra. You are obligated to have full respect towards everything related to Sukra, especially your wife. Neecha Sukra requires you to be humble towards your wife, sister, ladies etc. etc. Help them when they ask you, help them and support them even when they don't ask you. From now and on, your wife is Devi personified as far as you are concerned and the ground she is walking is sacred to you. You will have to chose this attitude if you want to give some strength to Sukra in your chart and pull your self out of the problem. Believe me that you will make incomparably less damage if you decide to insult anybody else in your life before you decide to make your wife unhappy. (Don't worry, I promise I will never share this conversation with her You have to perform some good karma if you want to prevent continuation of bad karma. Your wife is not with you by coincidence. She is there to deliver some karma that must be delivered and you can try to make it easier for yourself. I repeat again what I said few emails ago: Guru will protect Meena rashi, plus Ketu is there, so you need children as soon as possible. Your marriage has more chances to sustain with children. Come on Karka lagna, you can be great father... I am sure that children will pull the best out of you. That palmist had a point about far away country. I recommend you to move Northwest as Chandra is in digbala from Arudha Lagna. Move from Asia, far far away, as movable rashis such as Karka require distance to get activated. Your lagna and all occupants are your way out of every problem. In next Maha Dasa of Guru it would be great to perform Tara Mahavidya. If you feel ready to do it earlier, let's say around August this year, start it then. I am saying Tara because Grahas on Lagna are also qualified to break Kala Sarpa Yoga. Tara is for Guru.Hm... that would be all for now. Email is long, I know. I had to trouble you to put some effort in reading long list of remedies and advices, as 3rd bhava is place of problems. Okay, I am joking. I just think that there was some point in doing all this, as you might have benefits from everything written above this paragraph. You are reasonable, you might listen to me and you will probably perform Jyotirlinga. Thank you very much for reading this and giving me a chance to do some good karma. As I said before, rest is really on you.Keep in touch.Warm regards,Maja Štrbac--- On Tue, 1/19/10, Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek wrote:Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivekRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 2:08 AM Dear Maja ji Thanks a lot for your kind reply. Here are some major details for my life. I was married on 12th December 2008. My Father born in 1938 is a businessman and now not doing any active work except for some investments. He is having family history of diabetes and heart problems and is himself a Heart and blood Sugar patient. My mother is a housewife and she does not have any major medical problems except for overweight. Have always belonged to a well to do family but there was not much progress in our financial status and growth has always been stagnant. I've learnt from my parents not to believe in pump and show and lead a simple life. I'm a very stubborn person and don't usually change my decisions. I love to do charity and try to donate as much as possible. I have great love for literature and poetry and love art cinema more than commercial cinema. I passed my B.Com in 3rd division even when I was not that bad a student. I've always been haunted by Math and physics and complex calculations. I did my 12 in Science. After that i did some computer courses and worked here and there but my proper job started in Sep 2003 when I left India and came for a contract job of 2 months in Bangkok. here after 3 months i was offered a full time job and had to travel a lot in this job. I have recently been moved to plant location which has forced me to stay away from my wife as she is also working in the city. I was told this news on Dussehra day 2009. My Wife's DOB is 15th Apr 1980. Number 3, 6, 9 have mostly been lucky. most of my good friends also have these numbers as their date of birth. I have 2 brothers and 1 sister. i'm the youngest child. Both my brothers are in business. My sister is also married to a businessman. I don't remember much of my childhood but after I've grown up, I've seen mostly problems in business front in my dad's business. I can't say they were very huge but yes, if I compare to how well to do and progressing we used to be (as I was told), our growth got stagnant and also going down. My Marriage was a Love cum arranged Marriage. there was a lot of opposition from Girls family but later settled. The first few months of my marriage, my wife and I had lot of quarrels. We actually had very bitter fights and i had lost all interest and faith in the institution of marriage. Things are getting better, touch wood. We don't finght that much as my wife very cleverly avoids any such thing which can make me loose my temper. I won't say I'm satisfied but yes, i also feel its better to avoid any thing which can cause fights. My quality of life, I can't really say as there were both +ve and -ve changes but my career has taken a downfall and I've been landing in problems as explained earlier. I was once told by a palmist that My future will always be bright outside of the country of my birth and that I would probably die in a country which is not my birth country. Health wise, My wife is a bit fragile and although her health is more or less stable, she has improved over time but still she keeps getting small problems health wise. Regarding my wife's chart, should I ask her to send an email to you if she is interested in getting the things explained in her chart? Please let me know if any further information is required from my side. Once again thank you so much for your kindness to help. Kind Regards Vivek sohamsa@ .commajastrbacastro@ Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:09:19 -0800RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Vivek, namasteHaving direct dialogue with you is much better option, nice that you included. First of all, no reason for panic at this stage, as we are still checking if your birth time is correct or not.Tell me when did you get married? As your Upa Pada lagna is in 2nd bhava with Surya and Sani, I guess your marriage was arranged according to tradition of your family (which is the case with majority of people of your age in your country, but I would like to check if this is true anyway). You are 31 years old at the moment, so I don't see any serious marriage delay in your case... As I understand tradition, condition number one, necessary to fulfill in order to become potential groom, is to finish education (at least) before entering marriage. This can not happen before age of 23-24 (if we are talking about higher education). As Sani is on Upa Pada lagna, here we should focus on 7th there from (Kumbha) in order to find more details about relation between you and your wife. It is nice to see that her Rashi Lagna fits perfectly to your Upa Pada. I think your relation will be so much stronger after birth of children, as Ketu (kula devata) is there in Mooltrikona receiving Graha drishti of Guru from lagna. No need to focus on afflicted neecha Sukra from 3rd bhava and its influence on 2nd from Kumbha, as Guru is strong enough to protect his rashi (Meena) and his beneficial influence is strong enough to sustain your marriage. This marriage should last, all you guys need is children. This is the best "remedy" to keep your marriage safe and sound. I can not give comments related to your wife's chart, as I need her blessing and permission to do such a thing. It is her privacy. Though I am allowed to cheer you up with good news: my knowledge in determining compatibility between partners is pretty much poor, but what I am familiar with at this stage allows me to say that there is perfect compatibility in domain of Chandra (representing both of your families, social circles and mind level) between the two of you. "Third party involvement" meaning-if there were any extramarital issues with other women?Longevity issues- if Kumbha is your Navamsha lagna, this brings neecha Sukra in 8th bhava, related to sustaining of marriage and this is maraka bhava for wife also. This is neecha, vargotama Atma Karaka (under curse in Rashi chart), believe me you would feel very unhappy in your marriage if this is in 8th bhava. Further, 9th bhava is 3rd from 7th, so it is related to death of spouse in a way. Lord is neecha Budh having graha drishti on neecha Sukra in 2nd from 7th. If Sukra and Budh were not neecha (without neecha banga in Navamsha), I would not insist that this combination could ever influence wife's longevity, as there is no 7th lord involved in this combination to satisfy snap shot combination for death of spouse. This way, I would stick to health issues and longevity decreased to some extent. Speaking of her health, I need you to tell me how is your wife doing? If she is fine and well, I suggest Makara Navamsha lagna.What is your father's occupation? If Kumbha is your Navamsha lagna, following scenario is possible: social and financial status of your family could have been very stable and good before you were born. After you were born, your family could have experienced huge problems related to status, reputation, some court cases, legal issues and similar could have cropped up. Was this the case?Also, after you got married, how would you describe quality of your life, your career and interpersonal relations with people from your surrounding? I need these answers.Keep in touch.Warm regards,Maja Štrbac--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comMonday, January 18, 2010, 1:48 AM Dear Maja ji and Manoj ji Thanks a lot for taking out time to look at the chart. Maja ji, can you please help with the charts of me and my wife as if its really a Kumbha Lagna in Navmasa then I guess I'd be needing the help and blessings of Gurujans and learned members. My marriage was delayed. I'm sorry but I could not fully understand the third party involvement and longvity things. Frankly I'm getting scared a bit. Please guide me. I would also like to request Gurujans and Other leaned members if they can help with their analysis. Thanks and RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .commanojsharma662000@ Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:50:26 -0800Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga point well taken...I am a day dreamer and dreams just add more illusion (maya) around you...but that is my karma and I have to face (actually I am already facing) the consequences Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSun, January 17, 2010 3:41:43 AMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj, namasteThis is not matter of knowledge level, it is matter of approaching facts. Only facts make sense to me.Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 6:15 PM Hi Maja, Thanks for your response. I will not pretend to know more than you in astrology even for a wee bit. I was just saying that sometime the truth is not every apparent, and at abstract level sometime what is apparent is not necessarily true. I was just trying to make this point. However, again not sure whether it makes sense to you. Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ >sohamsa@ .comSat, January 16, 2010 4:25:13 PMRe: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Om Gurave NamahDear Manoj,)))))))))) ))))))))) )) Thank you for making me laugh with this lovely explanation. I do believe Vivek knows his wife very well. They are living together after all.Does this mean that Jyotishi is allowed to say: "You had a very good period to become millionaire a year ago, but sadly, you did not use it, so nothing manifested." in order to justify our errors in interpretation or rectification?Vivek's navamsha lagna shifts to Makara lagna within less than one minute earlier. In case of Kumbha navamsha lagna, Sukra would be 9th lord in 8th and Sukra is neecha, so I do believe that this would delay his marriage (fulfiling Dharma-9th bhava). Also, neecha Sukra would be matter of sustaining his marriage. There is drishti of neecha Budh on Sukra, so I do believe that if there is no terrible suffering or involvement of third party in his marriage, or if his wife is alive and well (yoga of 8th and 9th lord would badly afflict wife's longevity) Vivek's navamsha lagna should be Makara. This way, second bhava related to sustaining is occupied with Gu/Ke, meaning that children (own or adopted) and continuing linage is something that is keeping this marriage strong.When there is parampara yoga in 7th in Navamsha, it is not matter of inner quality or inner attitude of spouse. It is reality and spouse should actually belong to/be born in some Parampara if Yoga is strong (Guru is in Surya's rashi here, so...).Warm regards,Maja Strbac--- On Sat, 1/16/10, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >Re: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yogasohamsa@ .comSaturday, January 16, 2010, 10:32 AM That my be because of her Arudha lagna; what manifests is not always true...just tear the facade of this maya and try to understand the soul of your wife...may be you will realize, she is indeed very spritual if not religious... . Respectfully ms Vivek Bajaj <bajajvivek (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>sohamsa@ .comFri, January 15, 2010 5:50:11 AMRE: Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear Guru jis/Learned Members Just noticed that Jupiter + Ketu is in my D9 too in 7th house. I don't think my wife is very spiritual. She is more fun loving and out going than me. Chart attached. I guess we need some more expert advise. Warm RegardsVivek sohamsa@ .combondmerama (AT) (DOT) inFri, 15 Jan 2010 10:39:13 +0000 Re: Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:Ganapati yoga Dear All,Does this yoga always known as Ganapati Yoga,Here Jupiter is fallen.Best Regardssohamsa@ .com, LearneR Vedic AstroG <hygreeva_ram@ ...> wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>  > Namaskar, > It indiacte you get spirtual wife , may be marriage purpose is to beget children.>  >  >  > Regards,> Hygreeva.> > > --- On Thu, 14/1/10, AS <bondmerama@ ...> wrote:> > > AS <bondmerama@ ...>> Jup+Ketu in D-9 seventh house:shri Rafal Ji please tell......> sohamsa@ .com> Thursday, 14 January, 2010, 8:20 AM> > >  > > > > Respected Sirs> Namaskar.> Does the combination of Jupiter+Ketu in Makara, seventh house of D-9,indictates an astrologer spouse/spiritual spouse or what it indicates.> Kindly tell.> Regards.> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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