Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Dear Rao Ji, Sri Krishna Misra should be correct , but it is just possible that we may be , repeat may be , wrong in interpreting the his verses : Let us take Kal-chakra dasa as per BPHS.Ist cycle of Nanamsas commence in direct order from Aries to Pisces covering all the 12 navamsas, for 1st 3 nakshatras. Then 2nd cycle commences for three next Nakshatras in reverse order from Scorpio to Sagittarus , again covering all the 12 navamsa signs. We can also interpret in the following manner : The next cycle starts from Sagittarius in reverse order i.e Ardra to Rohini but zodiac order will remain same- Sag, Cap , Aq, Pc , Ar .....upto Scorpio. In Hora , Trimsamsa and Shashtiamsa charts were also devised on similar basis in BPHS.PARASARA has indicated division of singns on the basis of planets and their lords on this basis instead of signs. Signs were allocated by later authorities.Sarvarth Cintamani , Brihat jatak followed BPHS. We should follow the same method as sage Parasara teaches us in formulating Navamsa order for kal-chakra dasa. In this manner the navamsa order will be for Taurus , Gemini and Capricorn will be as under : Vir,Leo,CAN .......Capricorn. In this manner , The condition given by Krishna Mishra will be met and Nadi Navamsa Chakra will have Nine Nanamsa of each Sign. Now come to the interpretation of verse 2115 of Chandra Kala nadi. this only means that the scread tread should be put when either Sun in Taurus sign , ( if it is not possible then ) or when sun is in its debility Navamsa. If we follow that when Sun is in Taurus Sign and Libra Navamsa (assuming the interpretation given by Late Mr. Santhanam is Correct ) then there are only four days would be available for this ceremony every year, The panchangs in North India do show the good Mahurta for this ceremony when Sun is in Taurus sign , but obviously , they are not looking for Libra Navamsa. Matand gives Upnayana mahurta on June4,2009 and on May 16,23 and 28 in 2010. one thing is common that Sun is in Taurus sign. It appears that the controversy of Nadi navamsa had arisen more on account of mis-interpretation of Verses of Shri Krishna and Chandra kala nadi. Even Nadis in Moveable , fixed and dual signs are fixed according to teachings of sage Parasara. These are my personal views and I have no intention to join the issue with my elders or expert savants in the field of science of Astrology. With best respects to all and Regards, G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA ________________________________ Ramdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotraja Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 Wed, 3 February, 2010 8:33:46 PM Re: Srikrishna (Nadi )Navamsha OM SHRI LAKSHMI NARASIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Goel Ji, Namaste. Sri Krishna Misra in his Phalaratnamala has mentioned about this. " charabhe charabhat sthirabhe navamat sutabha dubhaye munayopi jaghu vishamat kramato viparItamadho viduramsaka kalpanamatra budhaha. So as per this,for Mesha,Simha and Dhanu Rashis, the Navamsha count is from Mesha,for Prithwi tattwa signs,Vrishabha, Kanya and Makara Rashis,the Navamsha sign is reverse count from Makara.For Mithuna, Tula and Kumbha, the Airy signs, the Navamsha count will be direct from Tula,and for watery signs Karka,Vrischika and Meena Rashis the count will be reverse from Karka Rashi. So for Agni Tattwa Rashis, the Navamsha count will be from Mesha to Dhanus.Now here the question arises why the great Astrologer Sri Krishna Misra has advocated this kind of system.Out of three Agni tattwa Rashis which are male Rashis,only Mesha Rashi is the Kendra Rashi starting from Mesha .Also out of Prithwi tattwa Rashis which are female Rashis ,the 1st navamsha starts in reverse method is from Makara is due to Makara is the strongest Kendra, ie., 10th Rashi from Mesha Rashi.Now again out of Vayu Tattwa Rashis,Tula is another Kendra Rashi from Mesha Rashi which are again Male Rashis.Finally out of Jala Tattwa Rashis, Karka Rashi is also another Kendra Rashi from Mesha Rashi and obviously all are female Rashis.( Here Akasha tattwa Meena Rashi is excepted ).You may be knowing the reason why even numbered Rashis navamshas and other D-charts will be counted in reverse order in Jaimini system. With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smaran, Ramadas Rao. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: Dear Rao ji , >I had a good luck that I attended the class of >our guru ji Pt. Sanjay Rath in which he taught >Sri Krishna Navamsa in his usual scholarly manner. > >Somehow , I am not convinced . This does not >mean that I am raising finger on such a great authority >like Sri krishna. >In my understanding any Navamsha division should have >nine navamsa of each sign , this method fails this test. >>Regards, > > > G.K.GOEL >Ph: 09350311433 >Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR >NEW DELHI-110 076 >INDIA > > >> > >________________________________ >Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. -- Ramadas Rao The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Dear Rao Ji, Sri Krishna Misra should be correct , but it is just possible that we may be , repeat may be , wrong in interpreting the his verses :Let us take Kal-chakra dasa as per BPHS.Ist cycle of Nanamsascommence in direct order from Aries to Pisces covering all the 12 navamsas,for 1st 3 nakshatras. Then 2nd cycle commences for three next Nakshatrasin reverse order from Scorpio to Sagittarus , again covering all the 12 navamsa signs.We can also interpret in the following manner :The next cycle starts from Sagittarius in reverse order i.e Ardra to Rohini butzodiac order will remain same- Sag, Cap , Aq, Pc , Ar .....upto Scorpio.In Hora , Trimsamsa and Shashtiamsa charts were also devised on similar basis in BPHS.PARASARA has indicated division of singns on the basis of planets and their lords on this basis instead of signs. Signs were allocated by later authorities.Sarvarth Cintamani ,Brihat jatak followed BPHS.We should follow the same method as sage Parasara teaches us informulating Navamsa order for kal-chakra dasa.In this manner the navamsa order will be for Taurus , Gemini and Capricorn will be as under :Vir,Leo,CAN .......Capricorn.In this manner , The condition given by Krishna Mishra will be met and Nadi Navamsa Chakra will have Nine Nanamsa of each Sign.Now come to the interpretation of verse 2115 of Chandra Kala nadi.this only means that the scread tread should be put when either Sun in Taurus sign , ( if it is not possible then ) or when sun is in its debility Navamsa. If we follow that when Sun is in Taurus Sign and Libra Navamsa (assumingthe interpretation given by Late Mr. Santhanam is Correct ) then there are only four days would be available for this ceremony every year,The panchangs in North India do show the good Mahurta for this ceremony when Sun is in Taurus sign , but obviously , they are not looking for Libra Navamsa.Matand gives Upnayana mahurta on June4,2009 and on May 16,23 and 28 in 2010.one thing is common that Sun is in Taurus sign.It appears that the controversy of Nadi navamsa had arisen more on account of mis-interpretation of Verses of Shri Krishna and Chandra kala nadi.Even Nadis in Moveable , fixed and dual signs are fixed according to teachings of sage Parasara.These are my personal views and I have no intention to join the issue with my eldersor expert savants in the field of science of Astrology.With best respects to all and Regards, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIARamdas Hosabettu <kashyapagotrajaGopal Goel <gkgoel1937Wed, 3 February, 2010 8:33:46 PMRe: Srikrishna (Nadi )NavamshaOM SHRI LAKSHMI NARASIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Goel Ji,Namaste. Sri Krishna Misra in his Phalaratnamala has mentioned about this." charabhe charabhat sthirabhe navamat sutabha dubhaye munayopi jaghuvishamat kramato viparItamadhoviduramsaka kalpanamatra budhaha. So as per this,for Mesha,Simha and Dhanu Rashis, the Navamsha count is from Mesha,for Prithwi tattwa signs,Vrishabha, Kanya and Makara Rashis,the Navamsha sign is reverse count from Makara.For Mithuna, Tula and Kumbha, the Airy signs, the Navamsha count will be direct from Tula,and for watery signs Karka,Vrischika and Meena Rashis the count will be reverse from Karka Rashi. So for Agni Tattwa Rashis, the Navamsha count will be from Mesha to Dhanus.Now here the question arises why the great Astrologer Sri Krishna Misra has advocated this kind of system.Out of three Agni tattwa Rashis which are male Rashis,only Mesha Rashi is the Kendra Rashi starting from Mesha .Also out of Prithwi tattwa Rashis which are female Rashis ,the 1st navamsha starts in reverse method is from Makara is due to Makara is the strongest Kendra, ie., 10th Rashi from Mesha Rashi.Now again out of Vayu Tattwa Rashis,Tula is another Kendra Rashi from Mesha Rashi which are again Male Rashis.Finally out of Jala Tattwa Rashis, Karka Rashi is also another Kendra Rashi from Mesha Rashi and obviously all are female Rashis.( Here Akasha tattwa Meena Rashi is excepted ).You may be knowing the reason why even numbered Rashis navamshas and other D-charts will be counted in reverse order in Jaimini system. With Shri Hari Vayu Guru Naama Smaran,Ramadas Rao. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: Dear Rao ji ,I had a good luck that I attended the class ofour guru ji Pt. Sanjay Rath in which he taughtSri Krishna Navamsa in his usual scholarly manner. Somehow , I am not convinced . This does not mean that I am raising finger on such a great authority like Sri krishna.In my understanding any Navamsha division should have nine navamsa of each sign , this method fails this test. Regards, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. -- Ramadas Rao Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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