Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 om gurave namah Dear Jyotish Guru’s I am restructuring SJC as Narasimha has left. You need to decide whether you are in Narasimha/KN Rao camp or with me/SJC. I will expect a decision in a week. If you with neither, then also, please inform me. If you are leaving, please remove yourself from this list, remove the logo of SJC and all associations with SJC from your websites. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Respected Guruji,Sadar Pranam!Although you asked "Jyotish Gurus" for their stance, I see you as my Jyotish Guru, so how could my heart remain silent!It is amazing to see how people with calibre and charisma are fooled and used by those with greater charisma and much lesser calibre... But that is the show in all the sphere nowadays.All this is the play of Mahamaya...the same Mahamaya who starts testing and playing with those who make her the object of their religious zeal, while comes running to those who simply call Ma with love in heart and tears in eyes...Guruji, I like many, have full faith in you! A Student has lost a Teacher! Nothing less but nothing more! The episode must be having emotional bearing on you...However, your Life has been for a PURPOSE, and the PURPOSE is far too great to grant much importance to such minor distractions!A student, me, expresses full faith in his teacher, you, in his journey with & for his PURPOSE!Your sincerely,Kunal. sohamsa , "Sanjay Rath" <sjrath wrote:>> > om gurave namah> > Dear Jyotish Guru's> > I am restructuring SJC as Narasimha has left. You need to decide whether you are in Narasimha/KN Rao camp or with me/SJC. I will expect a decision in a week. If you with neither, then also, please inform me. > > If you are leaving, please remove yourself from this list, remove the logo of SJC and all associations with SJC from your websites.> > Best Wishes> > Sanjay Rath> > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762> > Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Visti, I agree with you that we should avoid antagonistic and bad writtings. However, Never avoid to say your own opinion if asked. I see nothing bad in your standing with Guruji, Pt. Sanjay rath. On the other hand it is our duty to stand with the Guru. So, your opinion is and will be welcome, and it is nicer when we use nice words. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic sohamsa , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ॠगà¥à¤°à¤µà¥‡ नमः > Dear Shailesh and others, Namaste. > Please excuse my antagonistic writings towards the words of Narasimha in the > past. My weaknesses became obvious when I saw what I thought was a highly > unrighteous act. > There is no need to blame SJC for my misgivings, nor will you need to accept > my views towards Narasimha should you side with Sanjayji and SJC. My answers > to Narasimha were never encouraged by Guruji, and should not weigh in > your decisions w.r.t. SJC. Due to this I have vowed not to enter into such > debates where faith of the authors was the main issue, and not the > academical acumen. > I hope this clarifies. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) > www: http://srigaruda.com > www2: http://thejyotishdigest.com > @: visti > > > On 12 March 2010 09:53, Shailesh C Chadha <shailesh.c.chadhawrote: > > > > > > > *om gurave namah* > > Namaste Sanajay ji, > > > > You are my Guru and will always remain so. > > > > However, I am sorry to say that both sides have behaved badly in the > > current controversy. > > > > It really saddenes me that the real loser has been JYOTISH. > > > > Hence, I am unable to take any side. > > > > With best sincere regards, > > > > Shailesh C Chadha > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Sanjay Rath <sjrath wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> om gurave namah > >> > >> Dear Jyotish Guru’s > >> > >> I am restructuring SJC as Narasimha has left. You need to decide whether > >> you are in Narasimha/KN Rao camp or with me/SJC. I will expect a decision in > >> a week. If you with neither, then also, please inform me. > >> > >> If you are leaving, please remove yourself from this list, remove the logo > >> of SJC and all associations with SJC from your websites. > >> > >> Best Wishes > >> > >> Sanjay Rath > >> > >> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762 > >> > >> Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: > >> www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org > >> > >> <http://srath.cpm/> > >> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Dear Pt Sanjay, A guru's success is recognized when his student extends the knowledge that they receive from the guru, If a student does better then the guru did, that's the point of achievement in the life of a guru, in this parameter of vedic culture, you are a successful proven guru to your's student. You have shown a great example to your student in this manner, a rare one to see and realize, It's PVR Narsimha's fault that at the point he could progress towards becoming a guru, he chosen to dint the work of his guru, He could raise his findings and discuss with you directly to arrive at an acceptable conclusion, but that requires a different degree of honesty and commitment, sometimes we all try to encash the trivial opportunities leaving the ultimate goal that vedic astrology teaches us, he turned out to be an opportunistic one instead of a good student. While we admit talent and some of good works done by PVR Narsimha in your's association, we are fully aware his ditraction and derailment from the path of virtues, he w'd learn his lessons over period, because of inherent ego and because of his 9'th lord's placement in 8'th house, he overlapped the fact that spiritual sadhana and jyotish sadhana may need two gurus and at their places both the gurus have equal importance and deserve equal respect. Spirituality doesn't require and not based on practice of Jyotish however both can be integrated as Jyotish is a vedang also. Frankly saying, I criticized some of your students at several occasions when I found they are not presenting depth in their way of using mantras and when I saw that they are overstressing on curses, except for these two things your school seems to be working fine. Though, I suggest to keep those 18 founder ssages parampara at first place, In the interest of growth of vedic astrology, sticking to core principles laid out by Parashara or Jaimini Rishi, we have to see schools of astrology remain continue and schools must remain open for new discoveries and researches. Parampara must work in manner knolwedge grows further, It should overcome all sorts of trivial clashes out of inner darkness that individuals carry. I w'd recomment some more classical texts to be included in your teachings for the benefits of the students, otherwise, as a team, your team has done a nice job. Pls consider student's chart and astrologically evaluate level of potential that they have within themselves, in order to avoid repeatation of PVR like cases. Also teach students to remain open to respect other paramparas and schools, our approach should be an approach of integrity. Best Wishes,Lalit Mishra. sohamsa , Sunilkumar Biradar <biradar.s.sunilkumar wrote:>> > > > > > > > > ॠदकà¥à¤·à¤¿à¤£à¤¾à¤®à¥‚रà¥à¤¤à¤¿à¤°à¤¤à¤°à¥‹à¤‚ > > Dear Gurudevji, > > Namasthe, > > > > Gurudevji even though this mail is addressed to Jyotish > Gurujans a student like me also felt that it is the time to show our solidarity > with you. > > > > It is very surprising that peoples who are initially part of > this great ocean of knowledge called SJC are leaving it. > > > > It is very difficult to construct a house but it is very > easy to break it. But this house called SJC has been constructed on the great > foundation called faith and this faith is always will remain intact as Shri > Jagannatha himself resides in this house. You spent your very valuable time in constructing > this house and your effort will not go in vain due to some corrupt and egoistic > minds. Shri Jagannatha always stood by his bhaktas (like you) and no doubt he > will again come for protection of dharma. > > > > It is very funny that peoples who are leaving you are > accusing that you are egoist. But A Guru like you who always teaches his > students to leave ego (ahamkar) are facing this. Peoples know that you are very > humble and very sincere in your approach that’s why whole SJC, Its Gurus and > students backed you. > > > > If a person raises question about your parampara than it is laughable > as your parampara dates backs to Great Achyuta Dasa parampara. If a person who > lacks this parapara and claims that now your parampara teachings are dried up > than it will become great joke of the day nothing else. > > > > At last but not least Krsna always favors peoples like you who > are humble, follows dharma and shastra,he will never support corrupt peoples > who will argue with everything and makes false claims because Krsna is > everywhere and he knows who is correct. > > > > You are very correct in saying that Shiva knows the truth > and truth is always very bitter and it is not possible for peoples with corrupt > minds to accept it. > > > > Satyam Shivam Sundaram > > > > Yours faithfully > > > > > Sunilkumar Biradar > > > > sohamsa > sjrath > Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:48:04 +0530 > [soHamsa] Please respond privately > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om gurave namah > Dear Jyotish Guru’s > I am restructuring SJC as Narasimha has left. You need to decide > whether you are in Narasimha/KN Rao camp or with me/SJC. I will expect a > decision in a week. If you with neither, then also, please inform me. > > If you are leaving, please remove yourself from this list, remove the > logo of SJC and all associations with SJC from your > websites. > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 > 8762 > Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; > Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Hare Rama Krishna, Dear Sanjay-ji, as a "worker" of many years in this field,I found myself more and more perplexed, watching the increasingly chaotic writings of Mr. Narasimha. It seems that he failed to absorb anything from the teachings. Be as it may, let me stand up and "be counted" in affirming and saying that you have -and I also mean your WORK (for latin Opus,Magnum Opus at that)- my 100% SUPPORT! Much as it may pain "others", I believe that what you have done and achieved is by far the most significant development and contribution to the Art and Science of Astrology, between East and West and between the North and South poles ,since Dr. Raman, of the 1940s. With deep respect to ALL: AJsohamsa , "Sanjay Rath" <sjrath wrote:>> > om gurave namah> > Dear Jyotish Guru's> > I am restructuring SJC as Narasimha has left. You need to decide whether you are in Narasimha/KN Rao camp or with me/SJC. I will expect a decision in a week. If you with neither, then also, please inform me. > > If you are leaving, please remove yourself from this list, remove the logo of SJC and all associations with SJC from your websites.> > Best Wishes> > Sanjay Rath> > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road, New Delhi 110060, India; +91 (011) 4504 8762> > Readings: www.srath.com; Courses: www.sohamsa.com; Books: www.sagittariuspublications.com; Community: www..org> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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