Guest guest Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Dear Goelji Pranams. As you rightly said we have to bring all people together under SJC Sir, what happened to your wisdom and help when Sri Narasimha's outburst started 3 yrs ago. " HumLog " show ended then " Now I can post a very serious question to ask you to participate on this native's chart and tell us about the Guru droha.Secondly the native is going through technically Ashtama Shani forget the retrograde saturn for a moment. He does not have pushkaramsha like Shri. Ramadas Rao.Does he? If he had he may have quietly left without giving sermons. Please discuss this chart at length and whom can we ask for ashtama Shani Remedies to be suggested to this native? or any other remedies? You asked for Sri.Narasimha's chart? Help SJC in bringing all people together, counsel Sri.Narasimhaji to respect his GURU. Thanks with respect yousuf Sri. Narasimha Machilipatnam, AP, India (81 E 12, 16 N 15) on April 4, 1970 at 5:50 pm (IST: 5 1/2 hrs ahead of GMT). sohamsa , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Mr. Yousuf, > Really , I do not know you . > We are closely associated with Pt. Rath > when SJC was not even born. > M/s ramadas Rao , Ramanarayan Sailesh Chadda > are very knowledgeable and respected persons to > Mr. Rath. Kindly refer their names with respect and do > not drag them in petty controversies . I still remember that > 1st SJC conference was nicely arranged by Mr. Sailesh Chadda > at Hyderabad in January 2003 , when the book 'Varga Chakra' > was released .( By the way this book contains two articles by me). > Mr. Narasimha is among the most shining shishya of Mr. Rath. > On account of software developed by him ,the name of > SJC has become a household name in astrological fraternity. > As soon as Mercury/ Jupiter dasa of Pt. Rath will commence on > Aug20,2010 , they will makeup with each other . They cannot > live without each other too long.Mr. Narshima is too precious to > SJC , and if necessary, we the 'SJC' will veto all dissenting voices and > bring both of them together. > Let goodwill prevail all around. > With best regards, > > > G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Dear Manoj-ji what happens if his spiritual master gets cranky (we see his talk on veeryam, whew !) Narasimhaji belongs to the Elite society,Elite spiritualists because he is from IIT. He wears an elite Collar If he wants regular Homa practice by all,be a aghori tapaswi he should return and live in india, stand in long queues for water, wait long days for cooking gas and then go home and perform Homa under stress, preach what he is doing now.He will truly be a follower of Paramahamsa.This answers your last line " Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned " We have a proverb " khismat laat maara tho khuda kya karegaa " khismat accha hai, uski duniya chal raha hai. when everything is plucked away from him, that day he will see his God. Thanks yousuf sohamsa , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > Yousuf, > I second your thoughts on this. Guru can be benevolent and forgiving, but people like Narsimha would continue their tirade against people who taught them everything...I am tempted towrite more, but am refraining to do so to maintain the decorum on this forum...however, I have to say this, Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned....he now and then displays his 'tamsic' nature... > ms > > > > > ________________________________ > yousuf_i <yousuf_i > sohamsa > Fri, March 19, 2010 1:15:54 AM > [soHamsa] To:Goelji > > Â > Dear Goelji > Pranams. > > As you rightly said we have to bring all people together under SJC > Sir, what happened to your wisdom and help when Sri Narasimha's outburst started 3 yrs ago. " HumLog " show ended then " > Now I can post a very serious question to ask you to participate on this native's chart and tell us about the Guru droha.Secondly the native is going through technically Ashtama Shani forget the retrograde saturn for a moment. > He does not have pushkaramsha like Shri. Ramadas Rao.Does he? If he had he may have quietly left without giving sermons. > Please discuss this chart at length and whom can we ask for ashtama Shani Remedies to be suggested to this native? or any other remedies? > You asked for Sri.Narasimha' s chart? > Help SJC in bringing all people together, counsel Sri.Narasimhaji to respect his GURU. > > Thanks with respect > yousuf > Sri. Narasimha > Machilipatnam, AP, India (81 E 12, 16 N 15) on April 4, 1970 at 5:50 pm (IST: 5 1/2 hrs ahead of GMT). > > sohamsa@ .com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Yousuf, > > Really , I do not know you . > > We are closely associated with Pt. Rath > > when SJC was not even born. > > M/s ramadas Rao , Ramanarayan Sailesh Chadda > > are very knowledgeable and respected persons to > > Mr. Rath. Kindly refer their names with respect and do > > not drag them in petty controversies . I still remember that > > 1st SJC conference was nicely arranged by Mr. Sailesh Chadda > > at Hyderabad in January 2003 , when the book 'Varga Chakra' > > was released .( By the way this book contains two articles by me). > > Mr. Narasimha is among the most shining shishya of Mr. Rath. > > On account of software developed by him ,the name of > > SJC has become a household name in astrological fraternity. > > As soon as Mercury/ Jupiter dasa of Pt. Rath will commence on > > Aug20,2010 , they will makeup with each other . They cannot > > live without each other too long.Mr. Narshima is too precious to > > SJC , and if necessary, we the 'SJC' will veto all dissenting voices and > > bring both of them together. > > Let goodwill prevail all around. > > With best regards, > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > Ph: 09350311433 > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > INDIA > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > ________________ > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Yousuf, I disagree. To keep any kind of STEADY and regular sadhana ANYWHERE is an austerity especially in kali yuga and where maya is everywhere like USA. Id say most indians move DOWN a few notches when they move to USA and are inundated with all sorts of maya, alcohol, " girls gone wild " etc. all sorts of maya slamming from all sides. IN USA people have to get up early and sometimes sit in much traffic before they even get there.I know people who spend 5 hours each day to get to their jobs and back home. There are pressures of work all day, then come home and have to deal with spouse and children, all demanding of ones time and energy as well. Then the house or residence has its own worries and demands, mortgages, needing new roofs or this or that.Heaven help you if you loose your job and have to come up with money to support family and residence.IN USA most people dont have the benefit of extended family nearby to socialize and get emotional and other types of help and support. Its just a different type of maya, but maya non the less. They only time Ive found sadhana easy is when I was living in a temple with no responsibilites or personal demands. Give credit where credit is due. God works with each individual, you dont know Narasimhas karma or others, so dont be judgemental. At least he is TRYING at least he is TRYING to follow some thing. What about all the people eating meat, being cruel to others, killing others, all sorts of unhuman things going on... just a little bit above animal life. So when ANYONE is TRYING to perform some righteous activities,live a God filled life- best to just leave that person alone or admire them. IN kali yuga it is VERY hard to have a regular , steady sadhana, without a distracted mind. Dont critisize people who are at least trying, for whatever reason. all of these sadhaans and mantras lead to purification, best wishes LAkshmi sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i wrote: > > Dear Manoj-ji > what happens if his spiritual master gets cranky (we see his talk on veeryam, whew !) Narasimhaji belongs to the Elite society,Elite spiritualists because he is from IIT. He wears an elite Collar > > If he wants regular Homa practice by all,be a aghori tapaswi he should return and live in india, stand in long queues for water, wait long days for cooking gas and then go home and perform Homa under stress, preach what he is doing now.He will truly be a follower of Paramahamsa.This answers your last line " Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned " > > We have a proverb " khismat laat maara tho khuda kya karegaa " > khismat accha hai, uski duniya chal raha hai. when everything is plucked away from him, that day he will see his God. > > Thanks > yousuf > > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@> wrote: > > > > Yousuf, > > I second your thoughts on this. Guru can be benevolent and forgiving, but people like Narsimha would continue their tirade against people who taught them everything...I am tempted towrite more, but am refraining to do so to maintain the decorum on this forum...however, I have to say this, Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned....he now and then displays his 'tamsic' nature... > > ms > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > yousuf_i <yousuf_i@> > > sohamsa > > Fri, March 19, 2010 1:15:54 AM > > [soHamsa] To:Goelji > > > > Â > > Dear Goelji > > Pranams. > > > > As you rightly said we have to bring all people together under SJC > > Sir, what happened to your wisdom and help when Sri Narasimha's outburst started 3 yrs ago. " HumLog " show ended then " > > Now I can post a very serious question to ask you to participate on this native's chart and tell us about the Guru droha.Secondly the native is going through technically Ashtama Shani forget the retrograde saturn for a moment. > > He does not have pushkaramsha like Shri. Ramadas Rao.Does he? If he had he may have quietly left without giving sermons. > > Please discuss this chart at length and whom can we ask for ashtama Shani Remedies to be suggested to this native? or any other remedies? > > You asked for Sri.Narasimha' s chart? > > Help SJC in bringing all people together, counsel Sri.Narasimhaji to respect his GURU. > > > > Thanks with respect > > yousuf > > Sri. Narasimha > > Machilipatnam, AP, India (81 E 12, 16 N 15) on April 4, 1970 at 5:50 pm (IST: 5 1/2 hrs ahead of GMT). > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Yousuf, > > > Really , I do not know you . > > > We are closely associated with Pt. Rath > > > when SJC was not even born. > > > M/s ramadas Rao , Ramanarayan Sailesh Chadda > > > are very knowledgeable and respected persons to > > > Mr. Rath. Kindly refer their names with respect and do > > > not drag them in petty controversies . I still remember that > > > 1st SJC conference was nicely arranged by Mr. Sailesh Chadda > > > at Hyderabad in January 2003 , when the book 'Varga Chakra' > > > was released .( By the way this book contains two articles by me). > > > Mr. Narasimha is among the most shining shishya of Mr. Rath. > > > On account of software developed by him ,the name of > > > SJC has become a household name in astrological fraternity. > > > As soon as Mercury/ Jupiter dasa of Pt. Rath will commence on > > > Aug20,2010 , they will makeup with each other . They cannot > > > live without each other too long.Mr. Narshima is too precious to > > > SJC , and if necessary, we the 'SJC' will veto all dissenting voices and > > > bring both of them together. > > > Let goodwill prevail all around. > > > With best regards, > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________ > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Dear Lakshmiji Good morning from India.Pranams. eventhough you and your friend seem to be furious over my line of thinking I borrow this posting to repost for the thinking heads to understand that surrender means give-up.Total surrender means give up completely everything. By the way IMHO meena is a great rasi/lagna can you find a Guruji other than Sanjayji( meena lagna can we discuss his chart) Lotus is the holiest flower (pancha tatwa representation) Where do we find the Lotus? slushy,murky waters.which nakshatra, Anuradha = Lotus So we find God in dirt,pain,Krishna and the Gita.Yes Lakshmiji ultimately Gita is the answer to all our problems I completely vouch Sri.Ramanarayanji.He too said in one of the postings that Krishna rescued Draupadi after she lifted both her hands I beg him to indulge in discussion and help us all. He is a spiritualist of High Order. Thanks Yousuf Our friendly posting of Sri Prashant jalasutram. Sir thank you and God bless you Talk 101. A gentleman from Ambala asked: What is the rationalistic explanation of Draupadi’s sari becoming endless? M.: Spiritual matters cannot be fitted into rationalism*. Spirituality is transcendental. The miracle was after Draupadi had surrendered herself. The secret lies in surrender. More Over Verse 468 Of Guru Vachaka Kovai Says, In ancient days the chaste lady [Draupadi] had her honour saved and her sari lengthened by the Grace of Lord Krishna only when at last, letting go of her own hold on her sari, she lifted up both her hands in complete surrender to Him; and the strong wicked one [Duchasana] who was stripping her fell down abashed. Sadhu Om: So long as Draupadi was trying to hold her sari by her own hands lest it should be stripped off and was calling Sri Krishna for help, His Grace did not begin to function. But as soon as, having complete faith in His gracious protection, she gave up holding her clothes with her own hands and lifted them above her head, her surrender became complete and hence His Grace began to function by making her sari grow unendingly and by making the wicked Duchasana, who was stripping her, fall down in a swoon. This incident is pointed out there in order to instruct us that we should give up the sense of doership and should thus surrender to God completely and unreservedly. Sources: 1) GURU VACHAKA KOVAI The Light of Supreme Truth or THE COLLECTION OF GURU’S SAYINGS Translated from the Original Tamil by Sadhu Om and Michael James With an Introduction by David Godman 2) Talks With Ramana Maharshi Book rationalism -- the doctrine that knowledge is acquired by reason without resort to experience sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > Dear Yousuf, > I disagree. To keep any kind of STEADY and regular sadhana ANYWHERE is an austerity especially in kali yuga and where maya is everywhere like USA. Id say most indians move DOWN a few notches when they move to USA and are inundated with all sorts of maya, alcohol, " girls gone wild " etc. all sorts of maya slamming from all sides. > > IN USA people have to get up early and sometimes sit in much traffic before they even get there.I know people who spend 5 hours each day to get to their jobs and back home. > There are pressures of work all day, then come home and have to deal with spouse and children, all demanding of ones time and energy as well. Then the house or residence has its own worries and demands, mortgages, needing new roofs or this or that.Heaven help you if you loose your job and have to come up with money to support family and residence.IN USA most people dont have the benefit of extended family nearby to socialize and get emotional and other types of help and support. > Its just a different type of maya, but maya non the less. > They only time Ive found sadhana easy is when I was living in a temple with no responsibilites or personal demands. > Give credit where credit is due. > God works with each individual, you dont know Narasimhas karma or others, so dont be judgemental. > At least he is TRYING at least he is TRYING to follow some thing. > What about all the people eating meat, being cruel to others, killing others, all sorts of unhuman things going on... just a little bit above animal life. > So when ANYONE is TRYING to perform some righteous activities,live a God filled life- best to just leave that person alone or admire them. > IN kali yuga it is VERY hard to have a regular , steady sadhana, without a distracted mind. > Dont critisize people who are at least trying, for whatever reason. > all of these sadhaans and mantras lead to purification, > best wishes > LAkshmi > > sohamsa , " yousuf_i " <yousuf_i@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoj-ji > > what happens if his spiritual master gets cranky (we see his talk on veeryam, whew !) Narasimhaji belongs to the Elite society,Elite spiritualists because he is from IIT. He wears an elite Collar > > > > If he wants regular Homa practice by all,be a aghori tapaswi he should return and live in india, stand in long queues for water, wait long days for cooking gas and then go home and perform Homa under stress, preach what he is doing now.He will truly be a follower of Paramahamsa.This answers your last line " Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned " > > > > We have a proverb " khismat laat maara tho khuda kya karegaa " > > khismat accha hai, uski duniya chal raha hai. when everything is plucked away from him, that day he will see his God. > > > > Thanks > > yousuf > > > > > > sohamsa , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@> wrote: > > > > > > Yousuf, > > > I second your thoughts on this. Guru can be benevolent and forgiving, but people like Narsimha would continue their tirade against people who taught them everything...I am tempted towrite more, but am refraining to do so to maintain the decorum on this forum...however, I have to say this, Narsimha has a long way to go as far his spritual evolution is concerned....he now and then displays his 'tamsic' nature... > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > yousuf_i <yousuf_i@> > > > sohamsa > > > Fri, March 19, 2010 1:15:54 AM > > > [soHamsa] To:Goelji > > > > > >  > > > Dear Goelji > > > Pranams. > > > > > > As you rightly said we have to bring all people together under SJC > > > Sir, what happened to your wisdom and help when Sri Narasimha's outburst started 3 yrs ago. " HumLog " show ended then " > > > Now I can post a very serious question to ask you to participate on this native's chart and tell us about the Guru droha.Secondly the native is going through technically Ashtama Shani forget the retrograde saturn for a moment. > > > He does not have pushkaramsha like Shri. Ramadas Rao.Does he? If he had he may have quietly left without giving sermons. > > > Please discuss this chart at length and whom can we ask for ashtama Shani Remedies to be suggested to this native? or any other remedies? > > > You asked for Sri.Narasimha' s chart? > > > Help SJC in bringing all people together, counsel Sri.Narasimhaji to respect his GURU. > > > > > > Thanks with respect > > > yousuf > > > Sri. Narasimha > > > Machilipatnam, AP, India (81 E 12, 16 N 15) on April 4, 1970 at 5:50 pm (IST: 5 1/2 hrs ahead of GMT). > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Yousuf, > > > > Really , I do not know you . > > > > We are closely associated with Pt. Rath > > > > when SJC was not even born. > > > > M/s ramadas Rao , Ramanarayan Sailesh Chadda > > > > are very knowledgeable and respected persons to > > > > Mr. Rath. Kindly refer their names with respect and do > > > > not drag them in petty controversies . I still remember that > > > > 1st SJC conference was nicely arranged by Mr. Sailesh Chadda > > > > at Hyderabad in January 2003 , when the book 'Varga Chakra' > > > > was released .( By the way this book contains two articles by me). > > > > Mr. Narasimha is among the most shining shishya of Mr. Rath. > > > > On account of software developed by him ,the name of > > > > SJC has become a household name in astrological fraternity. > > > > As soon as Mercury/ Jupiter dasa of Pt. Rath will commence on > > > > Aug20,2010 , they will makeup with each other . They cannot > > > > live without each other too long.Mr. Narshima is too precious to > > > > SJC , and if necessary, we the 'SJC' will veto all dissenting voices and > > > > bring both of them together. > > > > Let goodwill prevail all around. > > > > With best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________ > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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