Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Dear Jha ji, Your effort to bring yet another version of BPHS is commendable. It is need of the hour. I may like it to call as Brihat as this will be going to be a very voluminous edition. THE POPULAR NORTH- INDIA VERSION OF MAHABHARATA WAS CONTAINING 97,000 VERSES. SOUTH-INDIA VERSION WAS CONTAINING 1, 07. 000 VERSES. WHEN GITA PRESS MERGED BOTH VERSIONS , COMBINED VERSION WAS NOW CONTAINING 1,13,000 VERSES. THERE WAS NO WAY TO ASCERTAIN THE ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION OF SAGE VAYASA , THUS THEY PUBLISHED ALL AVAILABLE VERSES. Parasara mentioned in Vishnu Purana that VEPoint WAS presently in 1st pada of Kritika. This means that hora shashtra might have been narrated some where around 2000 BC. It will be very difficult to ascertain the originality of all verses available in various versions AT THIS LATTER STAGE. Sita Ram Jha had given some order to verses , that made his version more easy to understand. He had made some positive contributions through his translation and that should be appreciated. This is the one reason that other later authorities followed his order.You should bring out his posotive contribution rather than putting him in negative light (I purchesed Khemraj version in 1989 at Rs. 100 but I could draw benefit only after study of Jha's version purchased in 1996) I do not think Laghu and Madya Parasari were ever the parts of original Hora shastra.Laghu Parasari teaches us the impact of planets on account of their lordship of houses and Madhya Parasari deals the impact on dasa result on account of Vargas and mutual placement of planets ( on account of Sthithi pf planets) , because Hora shastra says that the results of planets should be ascertained after knowing Swabhava and placement of planets. These are two Karikas of Hora shastra , the time and name of author is not known. Santham was in bad financial state and he was also not having any team of competent astrologers to support him . He had given his reasons honestly for choosing a version. He could do the translation of only first part on account of financial dispute with publishes. G.C.Sharma woks in Govt. department.In spare time he does give astrological consultations. HE is not an scholar of astrology or Sanskrit or ENGLISH,his WORK IS ONLY A COMPILATION. HE STANDS NO COMPERISION WITH SITARAM JHA. I SUGGEST YOU PUBLISH ONLY TWO EDITIONS , SANSKRIT VERSES WITH HINDI TRANSLATION AND WITH ENGLISH TRANSLATION. Translation OF VERSES AND PUTTING THEN IN SOME ORDER WILL BE A BIGGER CHALLENGE. LET GOD GIVE YOU WISDOM , STRENGTH AND RESOURCES TO COMPLETE THIS HERCULEAN TASk. With best regards, G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA ________________________________ The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Dear Jha ji,Your effort to bring yet another version of BPHS is commendable.It is need of the hour.I may like it to call as Brihat as this will be going to be a very voluminousedition.THE POPULAR NORTH- INDIA VERSION OF MAHABHARATA WAS CONTAINING 97,000 VERSES. SOUTH-INDIA VERSION WAS CONTAINING 1, 07. 000 VERSES.WHEN GITA PRESS MERGED BOTH VERSIONS , COMBINED VERSION WAS NOW CONTAINING1,13,000 VERSES. THERE WAS NO WAY TO ASCERTAIN THE ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION OF SAGE VAYASA , THUS THEY PUBLISHED ALL AVAILABLE VERSES. Parasara mentioned in Vishnu Purana that VEPoint WAS presently in 1st pada of Kritika.This means that hora shashtra might have been narrated some where around 2000 BC.It will be very difficult to ascertain the originality of all verses available in various versionsAT THIS LATTER STAGE.Sita Ram Jha had given some order to verses , that made his version more easy to understand.He had made some positive contributions through his translation and that should be appreciated.This is the one reason that other later authorities followed his order.You should bring outhis posotive contribution rather than putting him in negative light (I purchesed Khemrajversion in 1989 at Rs. 100 but I could draw benefit only after study of Jha's version purchased in1996)I do not think Laghu and Madya Parasari were ever the parts of original Hora shastra.LaghuParasari teaches us the impact of planets on account of their lordship of houses and Madhya Parasari deals the impact on dasa result on account of Vargas and mutual placement of planets ( on account of Sthithi pf planets) , because Hora shastra says that the results of planets should be ascertained after knowing Swabhava and placement of planets. These are two Karikas of Hora shastra , the time and name of author is not known. Santham was in bad financial state and he was also not having any team of competent astrologers to support him . He had given his reasons honestly for choosing a version.He could do the translation of only first part on account of financial dispute with publishes.G.C.Sharma woks in Govt. department.In spare time he does give astrological consultations.HE is not an scholar of astrology or Sanskrit or ENGLISH,his WORK IS ONLY A COMPILATION.HE STANDS NO COMPERISION WITH SITARAM JHA.I SUGGEST YOU PUBLISH ONLY TWO EDITIONS , SANSKRIT VERSES WITH HINDI TRANSLATIONAND WITH ENGLISH TRANSLATION. Translation OF VERSES AND PUTTING THEN IN SOME ORDER WILL BE A BIGGER CHALLENGE. LET GOD GIVE YOU WISDOM , STRENGTH AND RESOURCES TO COMPLETE THIS HERCULEANTASk.With best regards, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Dear Goel jee, What a wonderful message of support! In fact since you have such clear ideas about how the product should eventually materialize as, may I suggest that you join forces with Vinay Jha_jee in this remarkable endeavour? That is if he endorses such collaboration, of course! Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on while mars is in karka and even before when mars was elsewhere ;-) It was interesting to read that GCS was a civil servant! It seems that in the last fifty-seventy years, civil servants (including executives in Civil Service) had been contributing a lot to modern Jyotish! Hmmm... Rohiniranjan vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: Dear Jha ji, > Your effort to bring yet another version of BPHS is commendable. > It is need of the hour. > I may like it to call as Brihat as this will be going to be a very voluminous > edition. > THE POPULAR NORTH- INDIA VERSION OF MAHABHARATA WAS CONTAINING > 97,000 VERSES. SOUTH-INDIA VERSION WAS CONTAINING 1, 07. 000 VERSES. > WHEN GITA PRESS MERGED BOTH VERSIONS , COMBINED VERSION WAS NOW CONTAINING > 1,13,000 VERSES. THERE WAS NO WAY TO ASCERTAIN THE ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION > OF SAGE VAYASA , THUS THEY PUBLISHED ALL AVAILABLE VERSES. > Parasara mentioned in Vishnu Purana that VEPoint WAS presently in 1st pada of Kritika. > This means that hora shashtra might have been narrated some where around 2000 BC. > It will be very difficult to ascertain the originality of all verses available in various versions > AT THIS LATTER STAGE. > > Sita Ram Jha had given some order to verses , that made his version more easy to understand. > He had made some positive contributions through his translation and that should be appreciated. > This is the one reason that other later authorities followed his order.You should bring out > his posotive contribution rather than putting him in negative light (I purchesed Khemraj > version in 1989 at Rs. 100 but I could draw benefit only after study of Jha's version purchased in > 1996) > I do not think Laghu and Madya Parasari were ever the parts of original Hora shastra.Laghu > Parasari teaches us the impact of planets on account of their lordship of houses and Madhya > Parasari deals the impact on dasa result on account of Vargas and mutual placement of planets > ( on account of Sthithi pf planets) , because Hora shastra says that the results of planets > should be ascertained after knowing Swabhava and placement of planets. These are two Karikas of Hora shastra , the time and name of author is not known. > > Santham was in bad financial state and he was also not having any team of competent > astrologers to support him . He had given his reasons honestly for choosing a version. > He could do the translation of only first part on account of financial dispute with publishes. > > G.C.Sharma woks in Govt. department.In spare time he does give astrological consultations. > HE is not an scholar of astrology or Sanskrit or ENGLISH,his WORK IS ONLY A COMPILATION. > HE STANDS NO COMPERISION WITH SITARAM JHA. > > I SUGGEST YOU PUBLISH ONLY TWO EDITIONS , SANSKRIT VERSES WITH HINDI TRANSLATION > AND WITH ENGLISH TRANSLATION. > Translation OF VERSES AND PUTTING THEN IN SOME ORDER WILL BE A BIGGER CHALLENGE. > LET GOD GIVE YOU WISDOM , STRENGTH AND RESOURCES TO COMPLETE THIS HERCULEAN > TASk. > With best regards, > > > G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > ________________________________ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Fine comedy by RR Ji ( " Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on ...)!! He is under an oath never to discuss Jyotisha with me. If there are variants of BPHS, why some persons are irked with the idea of a comprehensive edition containing all variants ?? -VJ ========================= === vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear Goel jee, > > What a wonderful message of support! In fact since you have such clear ideas about how the product should eventually materialize as, may I suggest that you join forces with Vinay Jha_jee in this remarkable endeavour? That is if he endorses such collaboration, of course! > > Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on while mars is in karka and even before when mars was elsewhere ;-) > > It was interesting to read that GCS was a civil servant! It seems that in the last fifty-seventy years, civil servants (including executives in Civil Service) had been contributing a lot to modern Jyotish! Hmmm... > > Rohiniranjan > > vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jha ji, > > Your effort to bring yet another version of BPHS is commendable. > > It is need of the hour. > > I may like it to call as Brihat as this will be going to be a very voluminous > > edition. > > THE POPULAR NORTH- INDIA VERSION OF MAHABHARATA WAS CONTAINING > > 97,000 VERSES. SOUTH-INDIA VERSION WAS CONTAINING 1, 07. 000 VERSES. > > WHEN GITA PRESS MERGED BOTH VERSIONS , COMBINED VERSION WAS NOW CONTAINING > > 1,13,000 VERSES. THERE WAS NO WAY TO ASCERTAIN THE ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION > > OF SAGE VAYASA , THUS THEY PUBLISHED ALL AVAILABLE VERSES. > > Parasara mentioned in Vishnu Purana that VEPoint WAS presently in 1st pada of Kritika. > > This means that hora shashtra might have been narrated some where around 2000 BC. > > It will be very difficult to ascertain the originality of all verses available in various versions > > AT THIS LATTER STAGE. > > > > Sita Ram Jha had given some order to verses , that made his version more easy to understand. > > He had made some positive contributions through his translation and that should be appreciated. > > This is the one reason that other later authorities followed his order.You should bring out > > his posotive contribution rather than putting him in negative light (I purchesed Khemraj > > version in 1989 at Rs. 100 but I could draw benefit only after study of Jha's version purchased in > > 1996) > > I do not think Laghu and Madya Parasari were ever the parts of original Hora shastra.Laghu > > Parasari teaches us the impact of planets on account of their lordship of houses and Madhya > > Parasari deals the impact on dasa result on account of Vargas and mutual placement of planets > > ( on account of Sthithi pf planets) , because Hora shastra says that the results of planets > > should be ascertained after knowing Swabhava and placement of planets. These are two Karikas of Hora shastra , the time and name of author is not known. > > > > Santham was in bad financial state and he was also not having any team of competent > > astrologers to support him . He had given his reasons honestly for choosing a version. > > He could do the translation of only first part on account of financial dispute with publishes. > > > > G.C.Sharma woks in Govt. department.In spare time he does give astrological consultations. > > HE is not an scholar of astrology or Sanskrit or ENGLISH,his WORK IS ONLY A COMPILATION. > > HE STANDS NO COMPERISION WITH SITARAM JHA. > > > > I SUGGEST YOU PUBLISH ONLY TWO EDITIONS , SANSKRIT VERSES WITH HINDI TRANSLATION > > AND WITH ENGLISH TRANSLATION. > > Translation OF VERSES AND PUTTING THEN IN SOME ORDER WILL BE A BIGGER CHALLENGE. > > LET GOD GIVE YOU WISDOM , STRENGTH AND RESOURCES TO COMPLETE THIS HERCULEAN > > TASk. > > With best regards, > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > Ph: 09350311433 > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > INDIA > > > > ________________________________ > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 As long as you end up with a smile on your face, Jha_ji, my mission is accomplished! :-) What I desire for you and all of us is simply Santosh! Contentment! Not happiness, ecstasy, bliss, but simply Santosh! Not too much to ask, is it? :-) Here is a prediction I will make publicly! " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the near future (10 years...!)! " Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical fingers -- readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!! Rohiniranjan vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > Fine comedy by RR Ji ( " Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on ...)!! > > He is under an oath never to discuss Jyotisha with me. If there are variants of BPHS, why some persons are irked with the idea of a comprehensive edition containing all variants ?? > > -VJ > ========================= === > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Dear Goel jee, > > > > What a wonderful message of support! In fact since you have such clear ideas about how the product should eventually materialize as, may I suggest that you join forces with Vinay Jha_jee in this remarkable endeavour? That is if he endorses such collaboration, of course! > > > > Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on while mars is in karka and even before when mars was elsewhere ;-) > > > > It was interesting to read that GCS was a civil servant! It seems that in the last fifty-seventy years, civil servants (including executives in Civil Service) had been contributing a lot to modern Jyotish! Hmmm... > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jha ji, > > > Your effort to bring yet another version of BPHS is commendable. > > > It is need of the hour. > > > I may like it to call as Brihat as this will be going to be a very voluminous > > > edition. > > > THE POPULAR NORTH- INDIA VERSION OF MAHABHARATA WAS CONTAINING > > > 97,000 VERSES. SOUTH-INDIA VERSION WAS CONTAINING 1, 07. 000 VERSES. > > > WHEN GITA PRESS MERGED BOTH VERSIONS , COMBINED VERSION WAS NOW CONTAINING > > > 1,13,000 VERSES. THERE WAS NO WAY TO ASCERTAIN THE ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION > > > OF SAGE VAYASA , THUS THEY PUBLISHED ALL AVAILABLE VERSES. > > > Parasara mentioned in Vishnu Purana that VEPoint WAS presently in 1st pada of Kritika. > > > This means that hora shashtra might have been narrated some where around 2000 BC. > > > It will be very difficult to ascertain the originality of all verses available in various versions > > > AT THIS LATTER STAGE. > > > > > > Sita Ram Jha had given some order to verses , that made his version more easy to understand. > > > He had made some positive contributions through his translation and that should be appreciated. > > > This is the one reason that other later authorities followed his order.You should bring out > > > his posotive contribution rather than putting him in negative light (I purchesed Khemraj > > > version in 1989 at Rs. 100 but I could draw benefit only after study of Jha's version purchased in > > > 1996) > > > I do not think Laghu and Madya Parasari were ever the parts of original Hora shastra.Laghu > > > Parasari teaches us the impact of planets on account of their lordship of houses and Madhya > > > Parasari deals the impact on dasa result on account of Vargas and mutual placement of planets > > > ( on account of Sthithi pf planets) , because Hora shastra says that the results of planets > > > should be ascertained after knowing Swabhava and placement of planets. These are two Karikas of Hora shastra , the time and name of author is not known. > > > > > > Santham was in bad financial state and he was also not having any team of competent > > > astrologers to support him . He had given his reasons honestly for choosing a version. > > > He could do the translation of only first part on account of financial dispute with publishes. > > > > > > G.C.Sharma woks in Govt. department.In spare time he does give astrological consultations. > > > HE is not an scholar of astrology or Sanskrit or ENGLISH,his WORK IS ONLY A COMPILATION. > > > HE STANDS NO COMPERISION WITH SITARAM JHA. > > > > > > I SUGGEST YOU PUBLISH ONLY TWO EDITIONS , SANSKRIT VERSES WITH HINDI TRANSLATION > > > AND WITH ENGLISH TRANSLATION. > > > Translation OF VERSES AND PUTTING THEN IN SOME ORDER WILL BE A BIGGER CHALLENGE. > > > LET GOD GIVE YOU WISDOM , STRENGTH AND RESOURCES TO COMPLETE THIS HERCULEAN > > > TASk. > > > With best regards, > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > INDIA > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but not in my name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH will be confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal to discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas. TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value Truth. I have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works for posterity. TIME will decide who is in the right. Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. Three years ago, the HOD (Pt Shukadev Chaturvedi) of Jyotisha in Lalbahadur Shastri Kendriya Vidyaapeeth in Delhi organized a small meeting to discuss my article about Saurapaksha versus Drikpaksha. There, Pt Ramchandra Pandey (former HOD of BHU) abused me in my absence and asserted that Vinay Jha knows nothing and his article should not be reviewed, in spite of protests from others. I requested Pt Nagendra Pandey (now HOD of Jyotisha in Sampoornanand Sanskrit university, Varanasi) to publish my refutal of Pt Ramchandra Pandey's commentary of Suryasiddhanta so that a written shaastraartha could take place. After it was published, I asked topmost Jyotishis of Varanasi to assemble at the residence of Pt Ramchandra Pandey and read my article in full, and ask Pt Ramchandra Pandey to refute my points. I had proven that many propositions of Pt Ramchandra Pandey were wrong. In that meeting, Pt Ramchandra Pandey acdcepted that I was in the right. Thereafter, he inaugurated my panchanga in Varanasi. Pt Ramchandra Pandey still entertains a lot of doubts about Suryasiddhanta, mainly because of centuries of false propaganda against it. Yet, he saw that the points I raised were correct and stopped opposing Suryasiddhanta. Similarly, Dr Kameshwar upadhyaya, former editor of Vishva Panchanga of BHU, was an ardent supporter of Drikpaksha (physical astronomy) in astrology. After he USED Kundalee, he changed. You know the filth in internet and ask me to find moksha from internet. But do you know the filth out of internet?? Those who do not deserve perfect method of Jyotisha will find a thousand excuses for not testing it. I do not care. I am not a businessman to appease them. Let them abuse me and my works without testing. I repeat : " TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value Truth. " -VJ ======================== === vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > As long as you end up with a smile on your face, Jha_ji, my mission is accomplished! :-) > > What I desire for you and all of us is simply Santosh! Contentment! Not happiness, ecstasy, bliss, but simply Santosh! > > Not too much to ask, is it? :-) > > Here is a prediction I will make publicly! > > " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the near future (10 years...!)! " > > Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical fingers -- readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!! > > Rohiniranjan > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > Fine comedy by RR Ji ( " Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on ...)!! > > > > He is under an oath never to discuss Jyotisha with me. If there are variants of BPHS, why some persons are irked with the idea of a comprehensive edition containing all variants ?? > > > > -VJ > > ========================= === > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Goel jee, > > > > > > What a wonderful message of support! In fact since you have such clear ideas about how the product should eventually materialize as, may I suggest that you join forces with Vinay Jha_jee in this remarkable endeavour? That is if he endorses such collaboration, of course! > > > > > > Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on while mars is in karka and even before when mars was elsewhere ;-) > > > > > > It was interesting to read that GCS was a civil servant! It seems that in the last fifty-seventy years, civil servants (including executives in Civil Service) had been contributing a lot to modern Jyotish! Hmmm... > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jha ji, > > > > Your effort to bring yet another version of BPHS is commendable. > > > > It is need of the hour. > > > > I may like it to call as Brihat as this will be going to be a very voluminous > > > > edition. > > > > THE POPULAR NORTH- INDIA VERSION OF MAHABHARATA WAS CONTAINING > > > > 97,000 VERSES. SOUTH-INDIA VERSION WAS CONTAINING 1, 07. 000 VERSES. > > > > WHEN GITA PRESS MERGED BOTH VERSIONS , COMBINED VERSION WAS NOW CONTAINING > > > > 1,13,000 VERSES. THERE WAS NO WAY TO ASCERTAIN THE ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION > > > > OF SAGE VAYASA , THUS THEY PUBLISHED ALL AVAILABLE VERSES. > > > > Parasara mentioned in Vishnu Purana that VEPoint WAS presently in 1st pada of Kritika. > > > > This means that hora shashtra might have been narrated some where around 2000 BC. > > > > It will be very difficult to ascertain the originality of all verses available in various versions > > > > AT THIS LATTER STAGE. > > > > > > > > Sita Ram Jha had given some order to verses , that made his version more easy to understand. > > > > He had made some positive contributions through his translation and that should be appreciated. > > > > This is the one reason that other later authorities followed his order.You should bring out > > > > his posotive contribution rather than putting him in negative light (I purchesed Khemraj > > > > version in 1989 at Rs. 100 but I could draw benefit only after study of Jha's version purchased in > > > > 1996) > > > > I do not think Laghu and Madya Parasari were ever the parts of original Hora shastra.Laghu > > > > Parasari teaches us the impact of planets on account of their lordship of houses and Madhya > > > > Parasari deals the impact on dasa result on account of Vargas and mutual placement of planets > > > > ( on account of Sthithi pf planets) , because Hora shastra says that the results of planets > > > > should be ascertained after knowing Swabhava and placement of planets. These are two Karikas of Hora shastra , the time and name of author is not known. > > > > > > > > Santham was in bad financial state and he was also not having any team of competent > > > > astrologers to support him . He had given his reasons honestly for choosing a version. > > > > He could do the translation of only first part on account of financial dispute with publishes. > > > > > > > > G.C.Sharma woks in Govt. department.In spare time he does give astrological consultations. > > > > HE is not an scholar of astrology or Sanskrit or ENGLISH,his WORK IS ONLY A COMPILATION. > > > > HE STANDS NO COMPERISION WITH SITARAM JHA. > > > > > > > > I SUGGEST YOU PUBLISH ONLY TWO EDITIONS , SANSKRIT VERSES WITH HINDI TRANSLATION > > > > AND WITH ENGLISH TRANSLATION. > > > > Translation OF VERSES AND PUTTING THEN IN SOME ORDER WILL BE A BIGGER CHALLENGE. > > > > LET GOD GIVE YOU WISDOM , STRENGTH AND RESOURCES TO COMPLETE THIS HERCULEAN > > > > TASk. > > > > With best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Blah blah blah! That is all I have received from you since P. Ghosh introduced us! Too many claims and promises, SIR! DO something!! SHOW something!!! The worldly reality is very rough!!!! Why else would one have fled -- going back a few years? RR_, vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but not in my name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH will be confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal to discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas. > > TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value Truth. I have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works for posterity. TIME will decide who is in the right. > > Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. > > Three years ago, the HOD (Pt Shukadev Chaturvedi) of Jyotisha in Lalbahadur Shastri Kendriya Vidyaapeeth in Delhi organized a small meeting to discuss my article about Saurapaksha versus Drikpaksha. There, Pt Ramchandra Pandey (former HOD of BHU) abused me in my absence and asserted that Vinay Jha knows nothing and his article should not be reviewed, in spite of protests from others. I requested Pt Nagendra Pandey (now HOD of Jyotisha in Sampoornanand Sanskrit university, Varanasi) to publish my refutal of Pt Ramchandra Pandey's commentary of Suryasiddhanta so that a written shaastraartha could take place. After it was published, I asked topmost Jyotishis of Varanasi to assemble at the residence of Pt Ramchandra Pandey and read my article in full, and ask Pt Ramchandra Pandey to refute my points. I had proven that many propositions of Pt Ramchandra Pandey were wrong. In that meeting, Pt Ramchandra Pandey acdcepted that I was in the right. Thereafter, he inaugurated my panchanga in Varanasi. Pt Ramchandra Pandey still entertains a lot of doubts about Suryasiddhanta, mainly because of centuries of false propaganda against it. Yet, he saw that the points I raised were correct and stopped opposing Suryasiddhanta. > > Similarly, Dr Kameshwar upadhyaya, former editor of Vishva Panchanga of BHU, was an ardent supporter of Drikpaksha (physical astronomy) in astrology. After he USED Kundalee, he changed. > > You know the filth in internet and ask me to find moksha from internet. But do you know the filth out of internet?? > > Those who do not deserve perfect method of Jyotisha will find a thousand excuses for not testing it. I do not care. I am not a businessman to appease them. Let them abuse me and my works without testing. I repeat : " TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value Truth. " > > > -VJ > ======================== === > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > As long as you end up with a smile on your face, Jha_ji, my mission is accomplished! :-) > > > > What I desire for you and all of us is simply Santosh! Contentment! Not happiness, ecstasy, bliss, but simply Santosh! > > > > Not too much to ask, is it? :-) > > > > Here is a prediction I will make publicly! > > > > " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the near future (10 years...!)! " > > > > Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical fingers -- readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > > > Fine comedy by RR Ji ( " Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on ...)!! > > > > > > He is under an oath never to discuss Jyotisha with me. If there are variants of BPHS, why some persons are irked with the idea of a comprehensive edition containing all variants ?? > > > > > > -VJ > > > ========================= === > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Goel jee, > > > > > > > > What a wonderful message of support! In fact since you have such clear ideas about how the product should eventually materialize as, may I suggest that you join forces with Vinay Jha_jee in this remarkable endeavour? That is if he endorses such collaboration, of course! > > > > > > > > Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on while mars is in karka and even before when mars was elsewhere ;-) > > > > > > > > It was interesting to read that GCS was a civil servant! It seems that in the last fifty-seventy years, civil servants (including executives in Civil Service) had been contributing a lot to modern Jyotish! Hmmm... > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jha ji, > > > > > Your effort to bring yet another version of BPHS is commendable. > > > > > It is need of the hour. > > > > > I may like it to call as Brihat as this will be going to be a very voluminous > > > > > edition. > > > > > THE POPULAR NORTH- INDIA VERSION OF MAHABHARATA WAS CONTAINING > > > > > 97,000 VERSES. SOUTH-INDIA VERSION WAS CONTAINING 1, 07. 000 VERSES. > > > > > WHEN GITA PRESS MERGED BOTH VERSIONS , COMBINED VERSION WAS NOW CONTAINING > > > > > 1,13,000 VERSES. THERE WAS NO WAY TO ASCERTAIN THE ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION > > > > > OF SAGE VAYASA , THUS THEY PUBLISHED ALL AVAILABLE VERSES. > > > > > Parasara mentioned in Vishnu Purana that VEPoint WAS presently in 1st pada of Kritika. > > > > > This means that hora shashtra might have been narrated some where around 2000 BC. > > > > > It will be very difficult to ascertain the originality of all verses available in various versions > > > > > AT THIS LATTER STAGE. > > > > > > > > > > Sita Ram Jha had given some order to verses , that made his version more easy to understand. > > > > > He had made some positive contributions through his translation and that should be appreciated. > > > > > This is the one reason that other later authorities followed his order.You should bring out > > > > > his posotive contribution rather than putting him in negative light (I purchesed Khemraj > > > > > version in 1989 at Rs. 100 but I could draw benefit only after study of Jha's version purchased in > > > > > 1996) > > > > > I do not think Laghu and Madya Parasari were ever the parts of original Hora shastra.Laghu > > > > > Parasari teaches us the impact of planets on account of their lordship of houses and Madhya > > > > > Parasari deals the impact on dasa result on account of Vargas and mutual placement of planets > > > > > ( on account of Sthithi pf planets) , because Hora shastra says that the results of planets > > > > > should be ascertained after knowing Swabhava and placement of planets. These are two Karikas of Hora shastra , the time and name of author is not known. > > > > > > > > > > Santham was in bad financial state and he was also not having any team of competent > > > > > astrologers to support him . He had given his reasons honestly for choosing a version. > > > > > He could do the translation of only first part on account of financial dispute with publishes. > > > > > > > > > > G.C.Sharma woks in Govt. department.In spare time he does give astrological consultations. > > > > > HE is not an scholar of astrology or Sanskrit or ENGLISH,his WORK IS ONLY A COMPILATION. > > > > > HE STANDS NO COMPERISION WITH SITARAM JHA. > > > > > > > > > > I SUGGEST YOU PUBLISH ONLY TWO EDITIONS , SANSKRIT VERSES WITH HINDI TRANSLATION > > > > > AND WITH ENGLISH TRANSLATION. > > > > > Translation OF VERSES AND PUTTING THEN IN SOME ORDER WILL BE A BIGGER CHALLENGE. > > > > > LET GOD GIVE YOU WISDOM , STRENGTH AND RESOURCES TO COMPLETE THIS HERCULEAN > > > > > TASk. > > > > > With best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Ok Vinayji. What is the version of BPHS that you recommend as correct/closest to correct? vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but not in my name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH will be confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal to discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas. > > TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value Truth. I have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works for posterity. TIME will decide who is in the right. > > Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. > > Three years ago, the HOD (Pt Shukadev Chaturvedi) of Jyotisha in Lalbahadur Shastri Kendriya Vidyaapeeth in Delhi organized a small meeting to discuss my article about Saurapaksha versus Drikpaksha. There, Pt Ramchandra Pandey (former HOD of BHU) abused me in my absence and asserted that Vinay Jha knows nothing and his article should not be reviewed, in spite of protests from others. I requested Pt Nagendra Pandey (now HOD of Jyotisha in Sampoornanand Sanskrit university, Varanasi) to publish my refutal of Pt Ramchandra Pandey's commentary of Suryasiddhanta so that a written shaastraartha could take place. After it was published, I asked topmost Jyotishis of Varanasi to assemble at the residence of Pt Ramchandra Pandey and read my article in full, and ask Pt Ramchandra Pandey to refute my points. I had proven that many propositions of Pt Ramchandra Pandey were wrong. In that meeting, Pt Ramchandra Pandey acdcepted that I was in the right. Thereafter, he inaugurated my panchanga in Varanasi. Pt Ramchandra Pandey still entertains a lot of doubts about Suryasiddhanta, mainly because of centuries of false propaganda against it. Yet, he saw that the points I raised were correct and stopped opposing Suryasiddhanta. > > Similarly, Dr Kameshwar upadhyaya, former editor of Vishva Panchanga of BHU, was an ardent supporter of Drikpaksha (physical astronomy) in astrology. After he USED Kundalee, he changed. > > You know the filth in internet and ask me to find moksha from internet. But do you know the filth out of internet?? > > Those who do not deserve perfect method of Jyotisha will find a thousand excuses for not testing it. I do not care. I am not a businessman to appease them. Let them abuse me and my works without testing. I repeat : " TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value Truth. " > > > -VJ > ======================== === > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > As long as you end up with a smile on your face, Jha_ji, my mission is accomplished! :-) > > > > What I desire for you and all of us is simply Santosh! Contentment! Not happiness, ecstasy, bliss, but simply Santosh! > > > > Not too much to ask, is it? :-) > > > > Here is a prediction I will make publicly! > > > > " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the near future (10 years...!)! " > > > > Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical fingers -- readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > > > Fine comedy by RR Ji ( " Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on ...)!! > > > > > > He is under an oath never to discuss Jyotisha with me. If there are variants of BPHS, why some persons are irked with the idea of a comprehensive edition containing all variants ?? > > > > > > -VJ > > > ========================= === > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Goel jee, > > > > > > > > What a wonderful message of support! In fact since you have such clear ideas about how the product should eventually materialize as, may I suggest that you join forces with Vinay Jha_jee in this remarkable endeavour? That is if he endorses such collaboration, of course! > > > > > > > > Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on while mars is in karka and even before when mars was elsewhere ;-) > > > > > > > > It was interesting to read that GCS was a civil servant! It seems that in the last fifty-seventy years, civil servants (including executives in Civil Service) had been contributing a lot to modern Jyotish! Hmmm... > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jha ji, > > > > > Your effort to bring yet another version of BPHS is commendable. > > > > > It is need of the hour. > > > > > I may like it to call as Brihat as this will be going to be a very voluminous > > > > > edition. > > > > > THE POPULAR NORTH- INDIA VERSION OF MAHABHARATA WAS CONTAINING > > > > > 97,000 VERSES. SOUTH-INDIA VERSION WAS CONTAINING 1, 07. 000 VERSES. > > > > > WHEN GITA PRESS MERGED BOTH VERSIONS , COMBINED VERSION WAS NOW CONTAINING > > > > > 1,13,000 VERSES. THERE WAS NO WAY TO ASCERTAIN THE ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION > > > > > OF SAGE VAYASA , THUS THEY PUBLISHED ALL AVAILABLE VERSES. > > > > > Parasara mentioned in Vishnu Purana that VEPoint WAS presently in 1st pada of Kritika. > > > > > This means that hora shashtra might have been narrated some where around 2000 BC. > > > > > It will be very difficult to ascertain the originality of all verses available in various versions > > > > > AT THIS LATTER STAGE. > > > > > > > > > > Sita Ram Jha had given some order to verses , that made his version more easy to understand. > > > > > He had made some positive contributions through his translation and that should be appreciated. > > > > > This is the one reason that other later authorities followed his order.You should bring out > > > > > his posotive contribution rather than putting him in negative light (I purchesed Khemraj > > > > > version in 1989 at Rs. 100 but I could draw benefit only after study of Jha's version purchased in > > > > > 1996) > > > > > I do not think Laghu and Madya Parasari were ever the parts of original Hora shastra.Laghu > > > > > Parasari teaches us the impact of planets on account of their lordship of houses and Madhya > > > > > Parasari deals the impact on dasa result on account of Vargas and mutual placement of planets > > > > > ( on account of Sthithi pf planets) , because Hora shastra says that the results of planets > > > > > should be ascertained after knowing Swabhava and placement of planets. These are two Karikas of Hora shastra , the time and name of author is not known. > > > > > > > > > > Santham was in bad financial state and he was also not having any team of competent > > > > > astrologers to support him . He had given his reasons honestly for choosing a version. > > > > > He could do the translation of only first part on account of financial dispute with publishes. > > > > > > > > > > G.C.Sharma woks in Govt. department.In spare time he does give astrological consultations. > > > > > HE is not an scholar of astrology or Sanskrit or ENGLISH,his WORK IS ONLY A COMPILATION. > > > > > HE STANDS NO COMPERISION WITH SITARAM JHA. > > > > > > > > > > I SUGGEST YOU PUBLISH ONLY TWO EDITIONS , SANSKRIT VERSES WITH HINDI TRANSLATION > > > > > AND WITH ENGLISH TRANSLATION. > > > > > Translation OF VERSES AND PUTTING THEN IN SOME ORDER WILL BE A BIGGER CHALLENGE. > > > > > LET GOD GIVE YOU WISDOM , STRENGTH AND RESOURCES TO COMPLETE THIS HERCULEAN > > > > > TASk. > > > > > With best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I do not rely upon any one edition and advocate a comprehensive reading of all vartiants. But if you lack time, here is my list arranged according to reliability : (1) Devachandra Jha edition by Chowkhambha, Varanasi. (2) Khemraj Edition, Bombay (khemraj) (3) Ganeshadatt Pathak edition, by Thakur Prasad & sons These are all in Hindi translations. All positive cdontributuons by Sitaram Jha have been incorporated in above editions (1 & 3). Edition by Padmanabha Sharma is based on Sitaram Jha. English translations by Santhanam and GC Sharma are based on Sitaram Jha edition, but are edited by persons who had no Sanskrit background and did not examine various editions seriously. These should be touched only if you do not know Hindi or Sanskrit. I have decided to bring out a comprehensive edition comprising of all variants of BPHS. -VJ =================================== === vedic astrology , " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama wrote: > > > Ok Vinayji. > > What is the version of BPHS that you recommend as correct/closest to correct? > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but not in my name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH will be confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal to discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas. > > > > TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value Truth. I have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works for posterity. TIME will decide who is in the right. > > > > Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. > > > > Three years ago, the HOD (Pt Shukadev Chaturvedi) of Jyotisha in Lalbahadur Shastri Kendriya Vidyaapeeth in Delhi organized a small meeting to discuss my article about Saurapaksha versus Drikpaksha. There, Pt Ramchandra Pandey (former HOD of BHU) abused me in my absence and asserted that Vinay Jha knows nothing and his article should not be reviewed, in spite of protests from others. I requested Pt Nagendra Pandey (now HOD of Jyotisha in Sampoornanand Sanskrit university, Varanasi) to publish my refutal of Pt Ramchandra Pandey's commentary of Suryasiddhanta so that a written shaastraartha could take place. After it was published, I asked topmost Jyotishis of Varanasi to assemble at the residence of Pt Ramchandra Pandey and read my article in full, and ask Pt Ramchandra Pandey to refute my points. I had proven that many propositions of Pt Ramchandra Pandey were wrong. In that meeting, Pt Ramchandra Pandey acdcepted that I was in the right. Thereafter, he inaugurated my panchanga in Varanasi. Pt Ramchandra Pandey still entertains a lot of doubts about Suryasiddhanta, mainly because of centuries of false propaganda against it. Yet, he saw that the points I raised were correct and stopped opposing Suryasiddhanta. > > > > Similarly, Dr Kameshwar upadhyaya, former editor of Vishva Panchanga of BHU, was an ardent supporter of Drikpaksha (physical astronomy) in astrology. After he USED Kundalee, he changed. > > > > You know the filth in internet and ask me to find moksha from internet. But do you know the filth out of internet?? > > > > Those who do not deserve perfect method of Jyotisha will find a thousand excuses for not testing it. I do not care. I am not a businessman to appease them. Let them abuse me and my works without testing. I repeat : " TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value Truth. " > > > > > > -VJ > > ======================== === > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > As long as you end up with a smile on your face, Jha_ji, my mission is accomplished! :-) > > > > > > What I desire for you and all of us is simply Santosh! Contentment! Not happiness, ecstasy, bliss, but simply Santosh! > > > > > > Not too much to ask, is it? :-) > > > > > > Here is a prediction I will make publicly! > > > > > > " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the near future (10 years...!)! " > > > > > > Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical fingers -- readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Fine comedy by RR Ji ( " Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on ...)!! > > > > > > > > He is under an oath never to discuss Jyotisha with me. If there are variants of BPHS, why some persons are irked with the idea of a comprehensive edition containing all variants ?? > > > > > > > > -VJ > > > > ========================= === > > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel jee, > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful message of support! In fact since you have such clear ideas about how the product should eventually materialize as, may I suggest that you join forces with Vinay Jha_jee in this remarkable endeavour? That is if he endorses such collaboration, of course! > > > > > > > > > > Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on while mars is in karka and even before when mars was elsewhere ;-) > > > > > > > > > > It was interesting to read that GCS was a civil servant! It seems that in the last fifty-seventy years, civil servants (including executives in Civil Service) had been contributing a lot to modern Jyotish! Hmmm... > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jha ji, > > > > > > Your effort to bring yet another version of BPHS is commendable. > > > > > > It is need of the hour. > > > > > > I may like it to call as Brihat as this will be going to be a very voluminous > > > > > > edition. > > > > > > THE POPULAR NORTH- INDIA VERSION OF MAHABHARATA WAS CONTAINING > > > > > > 97,000 VERSES. SOUTH-INDIA VERSION WAS CONTAINING 1, 07. 000 VERSES. > > > > > > WHEN GITA PRESS MERGED BOTH VERSIONS , COMBINED VERSION WAS NOW CONTAINING > > > > > > 1,13,000 VERSES. THERE WAS NO WAY TO ASCERTAIN THE ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION > > > > > > OF SAGE VAYASA , THUS THEY PUBLISHED ALL AVAILABLE VERSES. > > > > > > Parasara mentioned in Vishnu Purana that VEPoint WAS presently in 1st pada of Kritika. > > > > > > This means that hora shashtra might have been narrated some where around 2000 BC. > > > > > > It will be very difficult to ascertain the originality of all verses available in various versions > > > > > > AT THIS LATTER STAGE. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sita Ram Jha had given some order to verses , that made his version more easy to understand. > > > > > > He had made some positive contributions through his translation and that should be appreciated. > > > > > > This is the one reason that other later authorities followed his order.You should bring out > > > > > > his posotive contribution rather than putting him in negative light (I purchesed Khemraj > > > > > > version in 1989 at Rs. 100 but I could draw benefit only after study of Jha's version purchased in > > > > > > 1996) > > > > > > I do not think Laghu and Madya Parasari were ever the parts of original Hora shastra.Laghu > > > > > > Parasari teaches us the impact of planets on account of their lordship of houses and Madhya > > > > > > Parasari deals the impact on dasa result on account of Vargas and mutual placement of planets > > > > > > ( on account of Sthithi pf planets) , because Hora shastra says that the results of planets > > > > > > should be ascertained after knowing Swabhava and placement of planets. These are two Karikas of Hora shastra , the time and name of author is not known. > > > > > > > > > > > > Santham was in bad financial state and he was also not having any team of competent > > > > > > astrologers to support him . He had given his reasons honestly for choosing a version. > > > > > > He could do the translation of only first part on account of financial dispute with publishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > G.C.Sharma woks in Govt. department.In spare time he does give astrological consultations. > > > > > > HE is not an scholar of astrology or Sanskrit or ENGLISH,his WORK IS ONLY A COMPILATION. > > > > > > HE STANDS NO COMPERISION WITH SITARAM JHA. > > > > > > > > > > > > I SUGGEST YOU PUBLISH ONLY TWO EDITIONS , SANSKRIT VERSES WITH HINDI TRANSLATION > > > > > > AND WITH ENGLISH TRANSLATION. > > > > > > Translation OF VERSES AND PUTTING THEN IN SOME ORDER WILL BE A BIGGER CHALLENGE. > > > > > > LET GOD GIVE YOU WISDOM , STRENGTH AND RESOURCES TO COMPLETE THIS HERCULEAN > > > > > > TASk. > > > > > > With best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Thanks Vinay ji. I will be one of the those to buy a copy. This will be of great service to the world of astrology Thanks Kiran vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > I do not rely upon any one edition and advocate a comprehensive reading of all vartiants. But if you lack time, here is my list arranged according to reliability : > > (1) Devachandra Jha edition by Chowkhambha, Varanasi. > (2) Khemraj Edition, Bombay (khemraj) > (3) Ganeshadatt Pathak edition, by Thakur Prasad & sons > > These are all in Hindi translations. All positive cdontributuons by Sitaram Jha have been incorporated in above editions (1 & 3). > > Edition by Padmanabha Sharma is based on Sitaram Jha. > > English translations by Santhanam and GC Sharma are based on Sitaram Jha edition, but are edited by persons who had no Sanskrit background and did not examine various editions seriously. These should be touched only if you do not know Hindi or Sanskrit. > > I have decided to bring out a comprehensive edition comprising of all variants of BPHS. > > -VJ > =================================== === > vedic astrology , " kiran.rama " <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > > > Ok Vinayji. > > > > What is the version of BPHS that you recommend as correct/closest to correct? > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > > > I approve your prediction, Da. I myself made this prediction, but not in my name, in a message to PVR recently. Those who have too much SANTOSH will be confounded with confusion concerning their ill-founded SANTOSH. Refusal to discuss confusions is not SANTOSH. SANTOSH, in Jyotish, is based on true findings and not on blind support to wrong ideas. > > > > > > TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value Truth. I have no desire to change others. My sole aim is to LEAVE my works for posterity. TIME will decide who is in the right. > > > > > > Those who lack SANTOSH should not preach it to others. > > > > > > Three years ago, the HOD (Pt Shukadev Chaturvedi) of Jyotisha in Lalbahadur Shastri Kendriya Vidyaapeeth in Delhi organized a small meeting to discuss my article about Saurapaksha versus Drikpaksha. There, Pt Ramchandra Pandey (former HOD of BHU) abused me in my absence and asserted that Vinay Jha knows nothing and his article should not be reviewed, in spite of protests from others. I requested Pt Nagendra Pandey (now HOD of Jyotisha in Sampoornanand Sanskrit university, Varanasi) to publish my refutal of Pt Ramchandra Pandey's commentary of Suryasiddhanta so that a written shaastraartha could take place. After it was published, I asked topmost Jyotishis of Varanasi to assemble at the residence of Pt Ramchandra Pandey and read my article in full, and ask Pt Ramchandra Pandey to refute my points. I had proven that many propositions of Pt Ramchandra Pandey were wrong. In that meeting, Pt Ramchandra Pandey acdcepted that I was in the right. Thereafter, he inaugurated my panchanga in Varanasi. Pt Ramchandra Pandey still entertains a lot of doubts about Suryasiddhanta, mainly because of centuries of false propaganda against it. Yet, he saw that the points I raised were correct and stopped opposing Suryasiddhanta. > > > > > > Similarly, Dr Kameshwar upadhyaya, former editor of Vishva Panchanga of BHU, was an ardent supporter of Drikpaksha (physical astronomy) in astrology. After he USED Kundalee, he changed. > > > > > > You know the filth in internet and ask me to find moksha from internet. But do you know the filth out of internet?? > > > > > > Those who do not deserve perfect method of Jyotisha will find a thousand excuses for not testing it. I do not care. I am not a businessman to appease them. Let them abuse me and my works without testing. I repeat : " TRUTH cannot be established in Kaliyuga, excepting for a few who value Truth. " > > > > > > > > > -VJ > > > ======================== === > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > As long as you end up with a smile on your face, Jha_ji, my mission is accomplished! :-) > > > > > > > > What I desire for you and all of us is simply Santosh! Contentment! Not happiness, ecstasy, bliss, but simply Santosh! > > > > > > > > Not too much to ask, is it? :-) > > > > > > > > Here is a prediction I will make publicly! > > > > > > > > " You will simply continue to create more confusion in Jyotish in the near future (10 years...!)! " > > > > > > > > Of course you can prove me wrong just by snapping your magical fingers -- readily! Please do so, we await with baited breath!! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Fine comedy by RR Ji ( " Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on ...)!! > > > > > > > > > > He is under an oath never to discuss Jyotisha with me. If there are variants of BPHS, why some persons are irked with the idea of a comprehensive edition containing all variants ?? > > > > > > > > > > -VJ > > > > > ========================= === > > > > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful message of support! In fact since you have such clear ideas about how the product should eventually materialize as, may I suggest that you join forces with Vinay Jha_jee in this remarkable endeavour? That is if he endorses such collaboration, of course! > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice to see dedicated Jyotishis working together, after all the sabre rattling that is going on while mars is in karka and even before when mars was elsewhere ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > It was interesting to read that GCS was a civil servant! It seems that in the last fifty-seventy years, civil servants (including executives in Civil Service) had been contributing a lot to modern Jyotish! Hmmm... > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jha ji, > > > > > > > Your effort to bring yet another version of BPHS is commendable. > > > > > > > It is need of the hour. > > > > > > > I may like it to call as Brihat as this will be going to be a very voluminous > > > > > > > edition. > > > > > > > THE POPULAR NORTH- INDIA VERSION OF MAHABHARATA WAS CONTAINING > > > > > > > 97,000 VERSES. SOUTH-INDIA VERSION WAS CONTAINING 1, 07. 000 VERSES. > > > > > > > WHEN GITA PRESS MERGED BOTH VERSIONS , COMBINED VERSION WAS NOW CONTAINING > > > > > > > 1,13,000 VERSES. THERE WAS NO WAY TO ASCERTAIN THE ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION > > > > > > > OF SAGE VAYASA , THUS THEY PUBLISHED ALL AVAILABLE VERSES. > > > > > > > Parasara mentioned in Vishnu Purana that VEPoint WAS presently in 1st pada of Kritika. > > > > > > > This means that hora shashtra might have been narrated some where around 2000 BC. > > > > > > > It will be very difficult to ascertain the originality of all verses available in various versions > > > > > > > AT THIS LATTER STAGE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sita Ram Jha had given some order to verses , that made his version more easy to understand. > > > > > > > He had made some positive contributions through his translation and that should be appreciated. > > > > > > > This is the one reason that other later authorities followed his order.You should bring out > > > > > > > his posotive contribution rather than putting him in negative light (I purchesed Khemraj > > > > > > > version in 1989 at Rs. 100 but I could draw benefit only after study of Jha's version purchased in > > > > > > > 1996) > > > > > > > I do not think Laghu and Madya Parasari were ever the parts of original Hora shastra.Laghu > > > > > > > Parasari teaches us the impact of planets on account of their lordship of houses and Madhya > > > > > > > Parasari deals the impact on dasa result on account of Vargas and mutual placement of planets > > > > > > > ( on account of Sthithi pf planets) , because Hora shastra says that the results of planets > > > > > > > should be ascertained after knowing Swabhava and placement of planets. These are two Karikas of Hora shastra , the time and name of author is not known. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santham was in bad financial state and he was also not having any team of competent > > > > > > > astrologers to support him . He had given his reasons honestly for choosing a version. > > > > > > > He could do the translation of only first part on account of financial dispute with publishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.C.Sharma woks in Govt. department.In spare time he does give astrological consultations. > > > > > > > HE is not an scholar of astrology or Sanskrit or ENGLISH,his WORK IS ONLY A COMPILATION. > > > > > > > HE STANDS NO COMPERISION WITH SITARAM JHA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I SUGGEST YOU PUBLISH ONLY TWO EDITIONS , SANSKRIT VERSES WITH HINDI TRANSLATION > > > > > > > AND WITH ENGLISH TRANSLATION. > > > > > > > Translation OF VERSES AND PUTTING THEN IN SOME ORDER WILL BE A BIGGER CHALLENGE. > > > > > > > LET GOD GIVE YOU WISDOM , STRENGTH AND RESOURCES TO COMPLETE THIS HERCULEAN > > > > > > > TASk. > > > > > > > With best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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