[SoHamsa] AAPOKLIM - Bhransha

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Dear Lalit,

Tenth house is for karma, work and not father who is the first lord of your dharma. The argument that father is the spouse or mate of mother is not of relevance to a native after his birth and hence in the birth chart the position of father is in the house of dharma, which is his important definition.

The rest of the argument about aapoklima and atmoktram is brilliant. Aapoklimas is a greek term and to that extent Jyotish has borrowed from the greeks. Yet it is important to remember that that’s not the way the rishi's wanted us to see charts. The concept of Guna is very vedic and there is no place for this in either greek or chinese astrology. Now the problem arose as to 'how to teach guna to a greek' and that’s when the borrowing would have occurred. Our entire jyotish is guna based. Everything is from AUM

Varahamihira did not want to encourage zenophobia and that’s why he happily borrowed from the greeks words which he thought would add easier understanding to the teachings of the seers, yet at times he has not understood the seers and has criticised their works. This was a bad practise. Raja Kalyana Verma has preferred to follow the path of Varahamihira as Saravali states so but cautions us against borrowing unnecessarily those things which do not fit into the jyotish paradigm. For this reason I am cautious but do not close doors of learning.

National boundaries are political and man made - god never made them.

The Tajaka system is so named by Indian astrologers to differentiate them from Jataka - just like Vanara and Ravana ...see the reversal in the words by taking the first syllable to the end. Ra-Vana >> Vana-Ra. In Tajaka and Jataka, the last syllable Ka symbolising the bha-chakra is similar, so leave this out. The words then are Jata-Ka and Taja-Ka >> Jata and Taja which are opposite like Rama and Mara. Interesting word play. Yet it has its place in Indian astrology although Tajaka system is NOT Vedic astrology

 

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

 

 

 

litsol

Tuesday, March 30, 2010 12:49 AM

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[soHamsa] AAPOKLIM - Bhransha

 

While defining collective attributes to houses, Some bhransha sanskrit terms are used in classics of Jyotish or vedic astrology, bhransh terms shows foreign influence on our culture, Our ancient universities were burnt to ashes and when after the chaos, we restored ourselves back, Our Jyotish had become Darbari as it required protection and recognition both for it's survival.

There has been a downside of the Darbari Jyotish, Varah Mihira like astrologers had become over influencial as they were dominating the tradition due to their position.

The classics composed in this era though contains the Vedic Knolwedge in essence, The manner they are written still exhibit deterioration of culture because of firstly attacks and subsequent business exchange.

In Jyotish, four kendras signifies - 1. Atma (Self) , 4. Matra (Mother) 7. Kalatra (Spouse) 10. Pitra (Father).

Kendras are "Aatmiya Sthaan" or houses related to native himself.

In Sanskrit, the term - "Krama" signifies - sequence or order, Added with prefix (Upsarga), it makes other terms to tell about - In the defined order (Anu-Krama) or Reverse order (Ut-Krama).

Houses in the reverse of Kendras are - 12, 9, 6, 3 which are collectively known as AAP-OKLIM.

The term AAP-OKLIM IS bhransha of ATM-OKTRAM as it's clearly seen by the houses signified by it.

Bhranshita AAPOKLIM looks so much alien to hindi or to sanskrit, It's origin is not understood by some of new age jyotish scholars, and they mis interpreted that Jyotish is not Indian.

They so called scholars used availability of One or two such terms in Jyotish classics as a tool to propogate false theories that Jyotish is of Greek origin.

This is the reason vedic scholars like BANA BHATTA of Gupta age and post Gupta age badly criticized Varah-Mihira and others like him for introducing such a impurity in Jyotish.

Lalit Mishra