PV Narsimha's Degree and Karma - Attacked At Swami Ramdeva

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Let the Cat come out of the bag : Kary - not Veg-Curry - has shown true color,

now its time for elimination Sanjayji.

 

She belongs to the camp of Narashimha, so its time for elimination from gp.

 

Dhanyavad

 

Pawan Maurya

 

sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

> Dear Friend,

> Please stop posting these things about Narasimha, post to him if you have a

problem.

> also, it appears this was from THREE years ago,

> it is OLD news and you are posting just to get people upset.

> Best wishes

> Lakshmi

>

> sohamsa , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his mounted ego -

> >

> > //

> >

> > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels of

> > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are doing

> > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> >

> > //

> >

> > Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak anything to

> > any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and his

> > faulty line of vedic astrology.

> >

> >

> >

> > Go through following -

> >

> > jyotisa/message/27

> > <jyotisa/message/27>

> > Namaste friends,

> >

> > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > direct/indirect access to ----------------------Forwarded

> > ------------------------------- Namaste friends,

> >

> > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on

> > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a

> > direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that will be

> > great!

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> > him and can pass this message on, that will be great!

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> > ---------------------Letter to Swami Ramdev

> > ---------

> >

> > Namaskar Swami Ramdev,

> >

> > I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu sages for

> > the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against superstition.

> > But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to denounce

> > palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on the BBC

> > website:

> >

> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm

> > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6240681.stm>

> >

> > The above article attributes some statements to you as given below:

> >

> > > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive beliefs.

> > >

> > > " I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about the

> > lines on

> > > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is this

> > talk

> > > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place, " he says.

> > >

> > > " Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there? He is

> > > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be less or

> > > more auspicious? " he asks. "

> >

> > I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and

> > scriptures have taught different concepts for people at different levels

> > of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately.

> >

> > For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman, what you

> > said above is true. There is God in every point of time and space. There

> > is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and

> > inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or Sadashiva or

> > Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call

> > Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every so-called

> > auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A deluded

> > person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a liberated

> > sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all.

> >

> > If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and actions

> > started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage does

> > not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A

> > liberated sage described in " Bhagavad Gita " or " Yoga Vaasishtham " does

> > not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain, good

> > and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply different

> > manifestations/extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a liberated

> > sage.

> >

> > However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a liberated

> > sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized and hence

> > stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person cannot see

> > good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a

> > particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick promotion and

> > joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job and stay

> > without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at both in the

> > same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called) fortune and

> > (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To a

> > normal person, both are significantly different. One elates him/her and

> > the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither elated at the

> > (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune.

> >

> > The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate non-dual

> > vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world appearance as a

> > delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the ocean of

> > world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught not only

> > the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower

> > intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of!

> >

> > When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology that deal

> > with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because there is

> > God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally, mixing up

> > different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect.

> >

> > Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no distinction

> > between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and misfortune,

> > life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the working

> > of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality are

> > useless. However, if one is a " normal person " without self-realization,

> > immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the astrological

> > teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see pleasure

> > and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can plan his

> > activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like Parasara,

> > Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in

> > planning the activities.

> >

> > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels of

> > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are doing

> > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to

> > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis.

> >

> > I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of astrology

> > these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can memorize a few

> > paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several astrologers loot

> > their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism. All that

> > must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some astrologers and

> > not the fault of the subject itself.

> >

> > There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a sincere

> > and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis. I am a

> > reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an IIT and

> > a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the teachings of

> > Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his teachings

> > today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology enthusiasts

> > like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by maharshis. I

> > do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha software

> > for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are also free.

> > I do " service " and not " business " with Jyotisha.

> >

> > As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and skepticism.

> > Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with astrology. When

> > other respected people like you with great following denounce astrology,

> > it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult. If you

> > have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do not

> > comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading comments based

> > on false logic and make things that are already difficult more difficult

> > for genuine people.

> >

> > Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of ancient

> > rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of

> > importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything related to

> > ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position with good

> > judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some teachings of

> > rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be

> > unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa.

> >

> > Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on Jyotisha,

> > I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a yogi and

> > have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the work you

> > have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda. Please

> > keep up your great work.

> >

> > Sincere regards,

> > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11)

> >

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