Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Om namo bhagvate hrishikesayaHare Rama KrishnaDear Mr Lalit and Pawan,Stop commenting on P V Narasimha Rao. What you know about him? And this forum is for discussing Jyotisha principles not about Baba Ramdev. If you have both have so much problem with Narasimha's comments on Baba Ramdev, please start a forum of your own on . Its free of cost also for your kind information.Its my sincere request to Sanjay guruji that such posts which are not related to jyotish and spirituality should not be allowed to be posted on this forum. We are here for learning jyotish principles and spirituality, not to know about how great Baba Ramdev is. Mr Pawan,Please understand what Lakshmi ji is. And mind using such words for her otherwise everyone here knows how to speak. She is well reputed spiritual person and a nice soul on this earth who always helps people with her right thoughts. Please don't use such words for anyone on this forum. If u have problem, u can opt not to reading the posts of this forum.RgdsRajat Kapoorlitsol <mishra.lalitsohamsa Sent: Wed, 31 March, 2010 11:13:04 PM[soHamsa] Re: PV Narsimha's Degree and Karma - Attacked At Swami Ramdeva Dear Friend, You must know that I wish Narimsha to correct himself but the more I come to know about such type of wrong doings, I loose my wish ........ Nrsimha's this sort of ideas shows that without a foot in predictive vedic astrology (Phalit Jyotish), because of some fan fare and Narsimha hiself made his larger then life image, In a time (Jup's Anatrdasha) when Jup was transiting it's mool trikona (Dhanur) rashi, when, he should have done more studies to understand basics of vedic astrology, Instead of learning, he focussed on superficial non existing Gurudom for him. Yesterday only, I came across this posting of his , I was schoked and upset by his posting. But such type of postins reveals how'z a person within. He has become a puppet in the hands of pseudo spiritiual person .... ... a person who influenced him by his charishmatic academic career, but, What people must know Swami Vivekananda was only BA in 2nd division and Thakur Ramkrishna had no academic degree. They were educated by mother devine and recognized in the world because of her love. Lord Shiva said - "Gyanam Bandhanam... " (Very Deeep to understand), Check how much Narsimha is in Bandhan ...... // By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels of people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are doing great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to spreading the correct teachings of maharshis. // Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak anything to any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and his faulty line of vedic astrology. Lalit Mishra. sohamsa@ .com, "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary@ ...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > Dear Friend, > Please stop posting these things about Narasimha, post to him if you have a problem. > also, it appears this was from THREE years ago, > it is OLD news and you are posting just to get people upset. > Best wishes > Lakshmi > > sohamsa@ .com, "litsol" mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > You w'd be surprised to read how low Narsimha goes out his mounted ego - > > > > // > > > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels of > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are doing > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis. > > > > // > > > > Poor placemnt of planets in his horoscope has made him speak anything to > > any body, I doubt that he ever w'd be able to correct himself and his > > faulty line of vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > Go through following - > > > > http://groups. / group/jyotisa/ message/27 > > <http://groups. / group/jyotisa/ message/27> > > Namaste friends, > > > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a > > direct/indirect access to ------------ --------- -Forwarded > > ------------ --------- --------- - Namaste friends, > > > > This is an open letter to Swami Ramdev regarding some comments on > > astrology attributed to him on the BBC website. If any of you have a > > direct/indirect access to him and can pass this message on, that will be > > great! > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > him and can pass this message on, that will be great! > > Best regards, > > Narasimha > > ------------ --------- Letter to Swami Ramdev > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --- > > > > Namaskar Swami Ramdev, > > > > I admire you for your fight to revive the teachings of Hindu sages for > > the betterment of the modern world and your tirade against superstition. > > But I take a strong exception to the logic given by you to denounce > > palmistry and astrology, as quoted by the following article on the BBC > > website: > > > > http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/south_ asia/6240681. stm > > <http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/south_ asia/6240681. stm> > > > > The above article attributes some statements to you as given below: > > > > > If anything, he condemns all superstition and retrogressive beliefs. > > > > > > "I don't believe in destiny. Palmistry and all this talk about the > > lines on > > > your hands deciding your future is nothing but nonsense. So is this > > talk > > > of sun signs and auspicious and inauspicious time and place," he says. > > > > > > "Can you identify any moment or place where God is not there? He is > > > everywhere and all the time. So how can any place or time be less or > > > more auspicious?" he asks." > > > > I am afraid your logic is faulty and misleading. Hindu sages and > > scriptures have taught different concepts for people at different levels > > of spiritual progress. One cannot mix them up indiscriminately. > > > > For a great sage who is immersed in the all-pervading Brahman, what you > > said above is true. There is God in every point of time and space. There > > is no duality and there is nothing called auspiciousness and > > inauspiciousness. It is non-dual Brahman (or Narayana or Sadashiva or > > Allah or Krishna or Holy Spirit or Buddha or whatever you call > > Him/Her/It) that fills every point of space and time - every so-called > > auspicious and so-called inauspicious point of time/space. A deluded > > person sees various dual objects - good and bad - in It, but a liberated > > sage sees only Brahman (non-dual self) in all. > > > > If actions started at a particular time result in happiness and actions > > started at another time result in sadness, such a liberated sage does > > not look at them differently. He/She will see Brahman in both. A > > liberated sage described in "Bhagavad Gita" or "Yoga Vaasishtham" does > > not distinguish between happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain, good > > and bad and other opposites of the dual world. All are simply different > > manifestations/ extensions of the same non-dual Brahman to a liberated > > sage. > > > > However, it is vital to note that all this applies only to a liberated > > sage with self-knowledge. A normal person is not self-realized and hence > > stuck in the delusion of this world appearance. Such a person cannot see > > good and bad with an equal vision. If joining in a new job at a > > particular time makes one have a good time and get a quick promotion and > > joining in a new job at another times makes one lose that job and stay > > without job for a year, one may not be capable of looking at both in the > > same way. One may not be able to see both the (so-called) fortune and > > (so-called) misfortune as manifestations of the same Brahman. To a > > normal person, both are significantly different. One elates him/her and > > the other depresses. A liberated sage, however, is neither elated at the > > (so-called) fortune nor depressed by the (so-called) misfortune. > > > > The same maharshis who have taught and extolled the ultimate non-dual > > vision as the only reality and dismissed the dual world appearance as a > > delusion, have also taught the rules to use in swimming the ocean of > > world appearance. The maharshis were compassionate. They taught not only > > the highest truths, but also lower truths that one of a lower > > intellectual (and spiritual) calibre can make use of! > > > > When learned men like you claim that subjects like astrology that deal > > with auspicious and inauspicious times are meaningless because there is > > God in all times, they are, intentionally or unintentionally, mixing up > > different levels of truths. This is misleading and incorrect. > > > > Let me repeat. If one is a self-realized person seeing no distinction > > between pleasure and pain, health and disease, fortune and misfortune, > > life and death, then subjects like astrology that deal with the working > > of the delusive world appearance that rests on such a duality are > > useless. However, if one is a "normal person" without self-realization, > > immersed in the duality of this world appearance, then the astrological > > teachings of maharshis are quaite relevant. If one cannot see pleasure > > and pain equally and desires to experience pleasure, one can plan his > > activities accordingly. Astrological teachings of sages like Parasara, > > Bhrigu, Kashypa and Garga are quite relevant to such a person in > > planning the activities. > > > > By mixing up concepts of Hindu philosophy meant for different levels of > > people to dismiss the astrological teachings of maharshis, you are doing > > great disservice to people like me who have dedicated themselves to > > spreading the correct teachings of maharshis. > > > > I do agree that there is a lot of nonsense in the name of astrology > > these days. Any idiot with a pocket book on astrology can memorize a few > > paragraphs and become an astrologer these days. Several astrologers loot > > their customers with false/shallow knowledge and commercialism. All that > > must be condemned. However, that is the fault of some astrologers and > > not the fault of the subject itself. > > > > There are some who have self-lessly dedicated themselves to a sincere > > and genuine pursuit of the astrological teachings of maharshis. I am a > > reasonably intelligent person - I have a B.Tech. degree from an IIT and > > a masters from US - and I say with full honesty that the teachings of > > Parasara are truly brilliant and people use only 1% of his teachings > > today. A new generation of scientifically educated astrology enthusiasts > > like me are trying to revive the true Jyotisha as taught by maharshis. I > > do research and teach for free. One can download my Jyotisha software > > for free and mp3 audio recordings of my Jyotisha classes are also free. > > I do "service" and not "business" with Jyotisha. > > > > As such, other educated people look at us with suspicion and skepticism. > > Unfortunately, there is a certain stigma associated with astrology. When > > other respected people like you with great following denounce astrology, > > it is quite disappointing and makes our job even more difficult. If you > > have not studied the Jyotisha teachings of maharshis, please do not > > comment on astrology. There is no need to make misleading comments based > > on false logic and make things that are already difficult more difficult > > for genuine people. > > > > Whether by design or by coincidence, you represent the wisdom of ancient > > rishis to modern Indian populace. This position places a lot of > > importance and value in whatever you say regarding anything related to > > ancient Indian wisdom and knowledge. Kindly use your position with good > > judgment. If you use your position to wrongly denounce some teachings of > > rishis that you yourself do not have experience in, it will be > > unfortunate. It will be a disservice to aarsha vidyaa. > > > > Apart from these notes of discord related to your comments on Jyotisha, > > I have the highest respect for you. I myself am somewhat of a yogi and > > have relied on ayurveda for several years now and I respect the work you > > have done in reviving the popular interest in Yoga and Ayurveda. Please > > keep up your great work. > > > > Sincere regards, > > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (2007 Feb 11) > > > > 26 Seaver Farm Lane > > South Grafton, MA 01560 USA > > Ph: +1-508-839-1218 +1-508-839-1218 > > email: pvr@ > > Home: www.VedicAstrologer .org <http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> > > <http://www.vedicast rologer.org/> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam > > <http://www.vedicast rologer.org/ homam> > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net > > <http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net/> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org > > <http://www.vedicast rologer.org/> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org > > <http://www.srijagan nath.org/> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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