Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Note: I have realised that the group does not allow file attachments so I will reproduce the data I used for Charles Darwin's chart here... February 12, 1809 Time: 1:57:04 pm Time Zone: 0:10:56 (West of GMT) Place: 2 W 44' 00 " , 52 N 43' 00 " Shrewsbury, United Kingdom Altitude: 0.00 meters My source for the above data is http://www..org/om/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=134:\ abraham-lincoln-and-charles-darwin & catid=156:intermediate & Itemid=195 Warm regards, Paawan. Paawan Sharma Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:37 PM Vedic Astrology [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas Namaste all, I have a question regarding the usage of conditional nakshatra dasas. In the majority of charts, more than one conditional nakshatra dasa will apply. In these cases, to which dasa system do we give importance and how also do we understand what to see with each dasa? As far as I am aware, BPHS only gives calculation of all these dasas so how do we really know which facet of a chart to study for which dasa. For example, in Charles Darwin's chart (.jhd file attached) I am finding that, in addition to Vimsottari Dasa, the following nakshatra dasas are also applicable: Dwisaptati Sama Dasa Satabdika Dasa Shodasottari Dasa Panchottari Dasa Ashtottari Dasa How then do we know which dasa to use for timing which event and how to relate dasa analysis with the chart? Surely if we use all of these dasas together, this will only lead to confusion and no event will be easily pinpointed. If possible, could someone give me a brief explanation on what sort of viewpoint should be taken for each individual nakshatra dasa (like, for example, the chara dasa is mainly studied from the viewpoint of chara karakas)? I hope I have asked my question clearly. Thank you. Warm regards, Paawan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 *klim krishna klim* Dear Pawan Every dasa has its Karaka and this should be seen from Atmakaraka (like Dvisaptati karaka is Candra). Then if they are equally strong from Atmakaraka you should go to next step - order given by Parasara. Thats the traditional proccess which you may try in your investigation. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Vedic Astrologer of SJC http://rohinaa.com/ /rgendarz / Paawan Sharma pisze: > > > Namaste all, > > I have a question regarding the usage of conditional nakshatra dasas. > In the majority of charts, more than one conditional nakshatra dasa > will apply. > In these cases, to which dasa system do we give importance and how > also do we understand what to see with each dasa? > As far as I am aware, BPHS only gives calculation of all these dasas > so how do we really know which facet of a chart to study for which dasa. > > For example, in Charles Darwin's chart (.jhd file attached) I am > finding that, in addition to Vimsottari Dasa, the following nakshatra > dasas are also applicable: > Dwisaptati Sama Dasa > Satabdika Dasa > Shodasottari Dasa > Panchottari Dasa > Ashtottari Dasa > > How then do we know which dasa to use for timing which event and how > to relate dasa analysis with the chart? > Surely if we use all of these dasas together, this will only lead to > confusion and no event will be easily pinpointed. > > If possible, could someone give me a brief explanation on what sort of > viewpoint should be taken for each individual nakshatra dasa (like, > for example, the chara dasa is mainly studied from the viewpoint of > chara karakas)? > > I hope I have asked my question clearly. Thank you. > > Warm regards, > Paawan. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Dear Rafal Ji, Thank you very much for your response. From where can one find out these karakas and is there a classical reference? And also, if we find that Moon is the strongest karaka - for example - how do we know whether to give more importance to Dwisaptati Sama Dasa or to Vimsottari Dasa? Kindly help me. Thank you. Warm regards, Paawan. Rafał Gendarz Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:20 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas *klim krishna klim* Dear Pawan Every dasa has its Karaka and this should be seen from Atmakaraka (like Dvisaptati karaka is Candra). Then if they are equally strong from Atmakaraka you should go to next step - order given by Parasara. Thats the traditional proccess which you may try in your investigation. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Vedic Astrologer of SJC http://rohinaa.com/ /rgendarz / Paawan Sharma pisze: > > > Namaste all, > > I have a question regarding the usage of conditional nakshatra dasas. > In the majority of charts, more than one conditional nakshatra dasa > will apply. > In these cases, to which dasa system do we give importance and how > also do we understand what to see with each dasa? > As far as I am aware, BPHS only gives calculation of all these dasas > so how do we really know which facet of a chart to study for which dasa. > > For example, in Charles Darwin's chart (.jhd file attached) I am > finding that, in addition to Vimsottari Dasa, the following nakshatra > dasas are also applicable: > Dwisaptati Sama Dasa > Satabdika Dasa > Shodasottari Dasa > Panchottari Dasa > Ashtottari Dasa > > How then do we know which dasa to use for timing which event and how > to relate dasa analysis with the chart? > Surely if we use all of these dasas together, this will only lead to > confusion and no event will be easily pinpointed. > > If possible, could someone give me a brief explanation on what sort of > viewpoint should be taken for each individual nakshatra dasa (like, > for example, the chara dasa is mainly studied from the viewpoint of > chara karakas)? > > I hope I have asked my question clearly. Thank you. > > Warm regards, > Paawan. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Hi, I also don't understand your explanation Raphael- Paawan, short explanation on when to use conditional d's you can find in JH- Like: Dwisaptati SD- when LL is in seventh, or seventh in fisrs.. Astottary when rahu is in kendra from Ak..etc.. I have no idea about the reasons, though. Now that Raphael says, that DSD lord is Chandra, I would definitively ask him to explain this Thnks, Anna  --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Paawan Sharma <pav_pv wrote: Paawan Sharma <pav_pv Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas vedic astrology Received: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 4:38 PM  Dear Rafal Ji, Thank you very much for your response. From where can one find out these karakas and is there a classical reference? And also, if we find that Moon is the strongest karaka - for example - how do we know whether to give more importance to Dwisaptati Sama Dasa or to Vimsottari Dasa? Kindly help me. Thank you. Warm regards, Paawan. Rafał Gendarz Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:20 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas *klim krishna klim* Dear Pawan Every dasa has its Karaka and this should be seen from Atmakaraka (like Dvisaptati karaka is Candra). Then if they are equally strong from Atmakaraka you should go to next step - order given by Parasara. Thats the traditional proccess which you may try in your investigation. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Vedic Astrologer of SJC http://rohinaa. com/ /rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com / Paawan Sharma pisze: > > > Namaste all, > > I have a question regarding the usage of conditional nakshatra dasas. > In the majority of charts, more than one conditional nakshatra dasa > will apply. > In these cases, to which dasa system do we give importance and how > also do we understand what to see with each dasa? > As far as I am aware, BPHS only gives calculation of all these dasas > so how do we really know which facet of a chart to study for which dasa. > > For example, in Charles Darwin's chart (.jhd file attached) I am > finding that, in addition to Vimsottari Dasa, the following nakshatra > dasas are also applicable: > Dwisaptati Sama Dasa > Satabdika Dasa > Shodasottari Dasa > Panchottari Dasa > Ashtottari Dasa > > How then do we know which dasa to use for timing which event and how > to relate dasa analysis with the chart? > Surely if we use all of these dasas together, this will only lead to > confusion and no event will be easily pinpointed. > > If possible, could someone give me a brief explanation on what sort of > viewpoint should be taken for each individual nakshatra dasa (like, > for example, the chara dasa is mainly studied from the viewpoint of > chara karakas)? > > I hope I have asked my question clearly. Thank you. > > Warm regards, > Paawan. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 *klim krishna klim* Dear Pawan Vimshottari and Udu dasas by Sanjay Rath. Vimshottari and Dvisaptati dasa shows different life cycles, it comes with practice. Conditional dasas shows life's theme and Vimshottari is used for society influence over the person (moon) or reverse (lagna-star as referal point). Regards, Rafal Gendarz Vedic Astrologer of SJC http://rohinaa.com/ /rgendarz / Paawan Sharma pisze: > > > Dear Rafal Ji, > > Thank you very much for your response. From where can one find out > these karakas and is there a classical reference? And also, if we find > that Moon is the strongest karaka - for example - how do we know > whether to give more importance to Dwisaptati Sama Dasa or to > Vimsottari Dasa? Kindly help me. > > Thank you. > > Warm regards, > Paawan. > > Rafał Gendarz > Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:20 AM > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40> > Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas > > *klim krishna klim* > Dear Pawan > > Every dasa has its Karaka and this should be seen from Atmakaraka (like > Dvisaptati karaka is Candra). Then if they are equally strong from > Atmakaraka you should go to next step - order given by Parasara. Thats > the traditional proccess which you may try in your investigation. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Vedic Astrologer of SJC > http://rohinaa.com/ <http://rohinaa.com/> > /rgendarz <%2Frgendarz%40gmail.com> > / > > Paawan Sharma pisze: > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > I have a question regarding the usage of conditional nakshatra dasas. > > In the majority of charts, more than one conditional nakshatra dasa > > will apply. > > In these cases, to which dasa system do we give importance and how > > also do we understand what to see with each dasa? > > As far as I am aware, BPHS only gives calculation of all these dasas > > so how do we really know which facet of a chart to study for which dasa. > > > > For example, in Charles Darwin's chart (.jhd file attached) I am > > finding that, in addition to Vimsottari Dasa, the following nakshatra > > dasas are also applicable: > > Dwisaptati Sama Dasa > > Satabdika Dasa > > Shodasottari Dasa > > Panchottari Dasa > > Ashtottari Dasa > > > > How then do we know which dasa to use for timing which event and how > > to relate dasa analysis with the chart? > > Surely if we use all of these dasas together, this will only lead to > > confusion and no event will be easily pinpointed. > > > > If possible, could someone give me a brief explanation on what sort of > > viewpoint should be taken for each individual nakshatra dasa (like, > > for example, the chara dasa is mainly studied from the viewpoint of > > chara karakas)? > > > > I hope I have asked my question clearly. Thank you. > > > > Warm regards, > > Paawan. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 *klim krishna klim* Dear Anna Candra is karaka for dvisaptati so if Candra is in kendra to AK and lagnesh is in vivaha sthana or reverse then the dasa will be accurate. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Vedic Astrologer of SJC http://rohinaa.com/ /rgendarz / SAR108 pisze: > > > > > Hi, > I also don't understand your explanation Raphael- > Paawan, short explanation on when to use conditional d's > you can find in JH- > Like: > Dwisaptati SD- when LL is in seventh, or seventh in fisrs.. > Astottary when rahu is in kendra from Ak..etc.. > I have no idea about the reasons, though. > Now that Raphael says, that DSD lord is Chandra, > I would definitively ask him to explain this > Thnks, > Anna > > --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Paawan Sharma <pav_pv > <pav_pv%40hotmail.co.uk>> wrote: > > Paawan Sharma <pav_pv <pav_pv%40hotmail.co.uk>> > Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40> > Received: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 4:38 PM > > > > Dear Rafal Ji, > > Thank you very much for your response. From where can one find out > these karakas and is there a classical reference? And also, if we find > that Moon is the strongest karaka - for example - how do we know > whether to give more importance to Dwisaptati Sama Dasa or to > Vimsottari Dasa? Kindly help me. > > Thank you. > > Warm regards, > Paawan. > > Rafał Gendarz > Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:20 AM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas > > *klim krishna klim* > Dear Pawan > > Every dasa has its Karaka and this should be seen from Atmakaraka (like > Dvisaptati karaka is Candra). Then if they are equally strong from > Atmakaraka you should go to next step - order given by Parasara. Thats > the traditional proccess which you may try in your investigation. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Vedic Astrologer of SJC > http://rohinaa. com/ > /rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com > / > > Paawan Sharma pisze: > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > I have a question regarding the usage of conditional nakshatra dasas. > > In the majority of charts, more than one conditional nakshatra dasa > > will apply. > > In these cases, to which dasa system do we give importance and how > > also do we understand what to see with each dasa? > > As far as I am aware, BPHS only gives calculation of all these dasas > > so how do we really know which facet of a chart to study for which dasa. > > > > For example, in Charles Darwin's chart (.jhd file attached) I am > > finding that, in addition to Vimsottari Dasa, the following nakshatra > > dasas are also applicable: > > Dwisaptati Sama Dasa > > Satabdika Dasa > > Shodasottari Dasa > > Panchottari Dasa > > Ashtottari Dasa > > > > How then do we know which dasa to use for timing which event and how > > to relate dasa analysis with the chart? > > Surely if we use all of these dasas together, this will only lead to > > confusion and no event will be easily pinpointed. > > > > If possible, could someone give me a brief explanation on what sort of > > viewpoint should be taken for each individual nakshatra dasa (like, > > for example, the chara dasa is mainly studied from the viewpoint of > > chara karakas)? > > > > I hope I have asked my question clearly. Thank you. > > > > Warm regards, > > Paawan. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Dear Anna Ji, I am aware of the various rules for dasa applicability. What I was wondering about is the utilisation of multiple nakshatra dasas. For example, in the chart I presented, six dasas apply (inclusive of Vimsottari) so I was wondering about the use of these. Thank you for your response though. I think what Rafal Ji means is that Moon is the karaka graha of this dasa, as everything in astrology has a karaka. For example, karaka of ascendant is Jupiter (I believe). Warm regards, Paawan. SAR108 Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:55 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas Hi, I also don't understand your explanation Raphael- Paawan, short explanation on when to use conditional d's you can find in JH- Like: Dwisaptati SD- when LL is in seventh, or seventh in fisrs.. Astottary when rahu is in kendra from Ak..etc.. I have no idea about the reasons, though. Now that Raphael says, that DSD lord is Chandra, I would definitively ask him to explain this Thnks, Anna --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Paawan Sharma <pav_pv wrote: Paawan Sharma <pav_pv Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas vedic astrology Received: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 4:38 PM Dear Rafal Ji, Thank you very much for your response. From where can one find out these karakas and is there a classical reference? And also, if we find that Moon is the strongest karaka - for example - how do we know whether to give more importance to Dwisaptati Sama Dasa or to Vimsottari Dasa? Kindly help me. Thank you. Warm regards, Paawan. Rafał Gendarz Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:20 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas *klim krishna klim* Dear Pawan Every dasa has its Karaka and this should be seen from Atmakaraka (like Dvisaptati karaka is Candra). Then if they are equally strong from Atmakaraka you should go to next step - order given by Parasara. Thats the traditional proccess which you may try in your investigation. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Vedic Astrologer of SJC http://rohinaa. com/ /rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com / Paawan Sharma pisze: > > > Namaste all, > > I have a question regarding the usage of conditional nakshatra dasas. > In the majority of charts, more than one conditional nakshatra dasa > will apply. > In these cases, to which dasa system do we give importance and how > also do we understand what to see with each dasa? > As far as I am aware, BPHS only gives calculation of all these dasas > so how do we really know which facet of a chart to study for which dasa. > > For example, in Charles Darwin's chart (.jhd file attached) I am > finding that, in addition to Vimsottari Dasa, the following nakshatra > dasas are also applicable: > Dwisaptati Sama Dasa > Satabdika Dasa > Shodasottari Dasa > Panchottari Dasa > Ashtottari Dasa > > How then do we know which dasa to use for timing which event and how > to relate dasa analysis with the chart? > Surely if we use all of these dasas together, this will only lead to > confusion and no event will be easily pinpointed. > > If possible, could someone give me a brief explanation on what sort of > viewpoint should be taken for each individual nakshatra dasa (like, > for example, the chara dasa is mainly studied from the viewpoint of > chara karakas)? > > I hope I have asked my question clearly. Thank you. > > Warm regards, > Paawan. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Dear Rafal Ji, Thank you very much. Warm regards, Paawan. Rafał Gendarz Thursday, April 08, 2010 1:02 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas *klim krishna klim* Dear Pawan Vimshottari and Udu dasas by Sanjay Rath. Vimshottari and Dvisaptati dasa shows different life cycles, it comes with practice. Conditional dasas shows life's theme and Vimshottari is used for society influence over the person (moon) or reverse (lagna-star as referal point). Regards, Rafal Gendarz Vedic Astrologer of SJC http://rohinaa.com/ /rgendarz / Paawan Sharma pisze: > > > Dear Rafal Ji, > > Thank you very much for your response. From where can one find out > these karakas and is there a classical reference? And also, if we find > that Moon is the strongest karaka - for example - how do we know > whether to give more importance to Dwisaptati Sama Dasa or to > Vimsottari Dasa? Kindly help me. > > Thank you. > > Warm regards, > Paawan. > > Rafał Gendarz > Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:20 AM > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40> > Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas > > *klim krishna klim* > Dear Pawan > > Every dasa has its Karaka and this should be seen from Atmakaraka (like > Dvisaptati karaka is Candra). Then if they are equally strong from > Atmakaraka you should go to next step - order given by Parasara. Thats > the traditional proccess which you may try in your investigation. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Vedic Astrologer of SJC > http://rohinaa.com/ <http://rohinaa.com/> > /rgendarz <%2Frgendarz%40gmail.com> > / > > Paawan Sharma pisze: > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > I have a question regarding the usage of conditional nakshatra dasas. > > In the majority of charts, more than one conditional nakshatra dasa > > will apply. > > In these cases, to which dasa system do we give importance and how > > also do we understand what to see with each dasa? > > As far as I am aware, BPHS only gives calculation of all these dasas > > so how do we really know which facet of a chart to study for which dasa. > > > > For example, in Charles Darwin's chart (.jhd file attached) I am > > finding that, in addition to Vimsottari Dasa, the following nakshatra > > dasas are also applicable: > > Dwisaptati Sama Dasa > > Satabdika Dasa > > Shodasottari Dasa > > Panchottari Dasa > > Ashtottari Dasa > > > > How then do we know which dasa to use for timing which event and how > > to relate dasa analysis with the chart? > > Surely if we use all of these dasas together, this will only lead to > > confusion and no event will be easily pinpointed. > > > > If possible, could someone give me a brief explanation on what sort of > > viewpoint should be taken for each individual nakshatra dasa (like, > > for example, the chara dasa is mainly studied from the viewpoint of > > chara karakas)? > > > > I hope I have asked my question clearly. Thank you. > > > > Warm regards, > > Paawan. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Hi Paawan, Rafael- There are so many dashas indeed, like 'panchottary, sataabdika dasa, chaturasity SD when Ll is in 10th...- I think that it's advisible that one master Vimsottary first. ...spice it up with Narayana, and maybe just have a look at other naks.dasas. Regards, Anna --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Paawan Sharma <pav_pv wrote:a Paawan Sharma <pav_pv Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas vedic astrology Received: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 5:09 PM  Dear Rafal Ji, Thank you very much. Warm regards, Paawan. Rafał Gendarz Thursday, April 08, 2010 1:02 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas *klim krishna klim* Dear Pawan Vimshottari and Udu dasas by Sanjay Rath. Vimshottari and Dvisaptati dasa shows different life cycles, it comes with practice. Conditional dasas shows life's theme and Vimshottari is used for society influence over the person (moon) or reverse (lagna-star as referal point). Regards, Rafal Gendarz Vedic Astrologer of SJC http://rohinaa. com/ /rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com / Paawan Sharma pisze: > > > Dear Rafal Ji, > > Thank you very much for your response. From where can one find out > these karakas and is there a classical reference? And also, if we find > that Moon is the strongest karaka - for example - how do we know > whether to give more importance to Dwisaptati Sama Dasa or to > Vimsottari Dasa? Kindly help me. > > Thank you. > > Warm regards, > Paawan. > > Rafał Gendarz > Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:20 AM > vedic astrology > <vedic- astrology% 40. com> > Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas > > *klim krishna klim* > Dear Pawan > > Every dasa has its Karaka and this should be seen from Atmakaraka (like > Dvisaptati karaka is Candra). Then if they are equally strong from > Atmakaraka you should go to next step - order given by Parasara. Thats > the traditional proccess which you may try in your investigation. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Vedic Astrologer of SJC > http://rohinaa. com/ <http://rohinaa. com/> > /rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com <%2Frgendarz %40gmail. com> > / > > Paawan Sharma pisze: > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > I have a question regarding the usage of conditional nakshatra dasas. > > In the majority of charts, more than one conditional nakshatra dasa > > will apply. > > In these cases, to which dasa system do we give importance and how > > also do we understand what to see with each dasa? > > As far as I am aware, BPHS only gives calculation of all these dasas > > so how do we really know which facet of a chart to study for which dasa. > > > > For example, in Charles Darwin's chart (.jhd file attached) I am > > finding that, in addition to Vimsottari Dasa, the following nakshatra > > dasas are also applicable: > > Dwisaptati Sama Dasa > > Satabdika Dasa > > Shodasottari Dasa > > Panchottari Dasa > > Ashtottari Dasa > > > > How then do we know which dasa to use for timing which event and how > > to relate dasa analysis with the chart? > > Surely if we use all of these dasas together, this will only lead to > > confusion and no event will be easily pinpointed. > > > > If possible, could someone give me a brief explanation on what sort of > > viewpoint should be taken for each individual nakshatra dasa (like, > > for example, the chara dasa is mainly studied from the viewpoint of > > chara karakas)? > > > > I hope I have asked my question clearly. Thank you. > > > > Warm regards, > > Paawan. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Dear Anna Ji, I agree with you, Vimsottari should ideally be mastered (as far as possible) before proceeding on to any other dasa. However, knowledge is always a good thing and the curiosity for knowing about other nakshatra dasas is also there, isn't it? A good astrologer, in my opinion, should not be judged by his/her methods but by predictive results and success and if conditional nakshatra dasas can help with analysis, we should definitely look into them. As far as Narayana dasa goes, I have not used this so I cannot comment. Warm regards, Paawan. SAR108 Thursday, April 08, 2010 1:37 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas Hi Paawan, Rafael- There are so many dashas indeed, like 'panchottary, sataabdika dasa, chaturasity SD when Ll is in 10th...- I think that it's advisible that one master Vimsottary first. ...spice it up with Narayana, and maybe just have a look at other naks.dasas. Regards, Anna --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Paawan Sharma <pav_pv wrote:a Paawan Sharma <pav_pv Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas vedic astrology Received: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 5:09 PM Dear Rafal Ji, Thank you very much. Warm regards, Paawan. Rafał Gendarz Thursday, April 08, 2010 1:02 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas *klim krishna klim* Dear Pawan Vimshottari and Udu dasas by Sanjay Rath. Vimshottari and Dvisaptati dasa shows different life cycles, it comes with practice. Conditional dasas shows life's theme and Vimshottari is used for society influence over the person (moon) or reverse (lagna-star as referal point). Regards, Rafal Gendarz Vedic Astrologer of SJC http://rohinaa. com/ /rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com / Paawan Sharma pisze: > > > Dear Rafal Ji, > > Thank you very much for your response. From where can one find out > these karakas and is there a classical reference? And also, if we find > that Moon is the strongest karaka - for example - how do we know > whether to give more importance to Dwisaptati Sama Dasa or to > Vimsottari Dasa? Kindly help me. > > Thank you. > > Warm regards, > Paawan. > > Rafał Gendarz > Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:20 AM > vedic astrology > <vedic- astrology% 40. com> > Re: [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra Dasas > > *klim krishna klim* > Dear Pawan > > Every dasa has its Karaka and this should be seen from Atmakaraka (like > Dvisaptati karaka is Candra). Then if they are equally strong from > Atmakaraka you should go to next step - order given by Parasara. Thats > the traditional proccess which you may try in your investigation. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Vedic Astrologer of SJC > http://rohinaa. com/ <http://rohinaa. com/> > /rgendarz (AT) gmail (DOT) com <%2Frgendarz %40gmail. com> > / > > Paawan Sharma pisze: > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > I have a question regarding the usage of conditional nakshatra dasas. > > In the majority of charts, more than one conditional nakshatra dasa > > will apply. > > In these cases, to which dasa system do we give importance and how > > also do we understand what to see with each dasa? > > As far as I am aware, BPHS only gives calculation of all these dasas > > so how do we really know which facet of a chart to study for which dasa. > > > > For example, in Charles Darwin's chart (.jhd file attached) I am > > finding that, in addition to Vimsottari Dasa, the following nakshatra > > dasas are also applicable: > > Dwisaptati Sama Dasa > > Satabdika Dasa > > Shodasottari Dasa > > Panchottari Dasa > > Ashtottari Dasa > > > > How then do we know which dasa to use for timing which event and how > > to relate dasa analysis with the chart? > > Surely if we use all of these dasas together, this will only lead to > > confusion and no event will be easily pinpointed. > > > > If possible, could someone give me a brief explanation on what sort of > > viewpoint should be taken for each individual nakshatra dasa (like, > > for example, the chara dasa is mainly studied from the viewpoint of > > chara karakas)? > > > > I hope I have asked my question clearly. Thank you. > > > > Warm regards, > > Paawan. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Dear Goel Ji, Thank you very much for this information. It is very interesting. Warm regards, Paawan. Gopal Goel Thursday, April 08, 2010 1:09 PM Paawan Sharma Cc: astrologyandremedies ; vedic astrology ; sohamsa [vedic astrology] Conditional Nakshatra dasas Dear Pavan ji, Bphs had given 14 Nakshatra dasa including Yogni dasa. Rules for deducing the results of Vimsottari dasa is given in detail in many chapters of Bphs ,Laghu and Madya Parasari.These rules are not applicable verbatim on Astottari dasa. Kalachakra dasa is also dealt in detail in Bphs and other classics. Astotri dasa and Shastihayani dasa are based on Sarbotrabhadra chakra. THE RESULTS OF THESE DASAS ARE ANALYZED along WITH THIS CHAKRA. Yogni dasa is popular in northern hilly reason of India . I have yet able to lay hand in any classic reference.Ist cycle is mainly to judge parents and elders , 2nd cycle for self and 3rd cycle for the wellfare of progeny. Astottari dasa is more popular In Gujrat reason of India . and generally used to pin point good and bad events in life. Other Nakshatra dasas are applicable as per rules given in Bphs , but method of deducing results are not given in any famous classics , as per my knowledge. Under these circumstances we can only depend on the views of modern savants. In fact if one masters Vimsottari dasa Astottari dasa ( and savotbhadra chakra). Kalachakra dasa and yogni dasa , other nakshatra dasas will not be of any substantial value. This comment is not applicable for dasas on Bhavas , signs and planets. As Nakshtra chakra is based on the cycle of Moon , these dasas indicate one's mental inclination and attitude towards pain and pleasure of the life. Whereas , Other dasas are based on Sun , it indicate resources and spirit behind all our actions. BPHS says that the savants don't vouch safe for all the dasas mentioned herein (in Verse 11 of chapter 46 -dasas Adhya) G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Dear Pavan ji,Bphs had given 14 Nakshatra dasa including Yogni dasa.Rules for deducing the results of Vimsottari dasa is given in detailin many chapters of Bphs ,Laghu and Madya Parasari.These rules are not applicable verbatim on Astottari dasa.Kalachakra dasa is also dealt in detail in Bphs and other classics.Astotri dasa and Shastihayani dasa are based on Sarbotrabhadra chakra.THE RESULTS OF THESE DASAS ARE ANALYZED along WITH THIS CHAKRA.Yogni dasa is popular in northern hilly reason of India . I have yet able to lay hand in any classic reference.Ist cycle is mainly to judge parents and elders , 2nd cycle for self and 3rdcycle for the wellfare of progeny.Astottari dasa is more popular In Gujrat reason of India . and generally used to pin point good and bad events in life.Other Nakshatra dasas are applicable as per rules given in Bphs , but method of deducingresults are not given in any famous classics , as per my knowledge. Under these circumstanceswe can only depend on the views of modern savants.In fact if one masters Vimsottari dasa Astottari dasa ( and savotbhadra chakra). Kalachakra dasa and yogni dasa , other nakshatra dasas will not be of any substantial value.This comment is not applicable for dasas on Bhavas , signs and planets.As Nakshtra chakra is based on the cycle of Moon , these dasas indicate one's mental inclinationand attitude towards pain and pleasure of the life. Whereas , Other dasas are based on Sun , it indicate resources and spirit behind all our actions.BPHS says that the savants don't vouch safe for all the dasas mentioned herein (in Verse 11 of chapter 46 -dasas Adhya) G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 believe me yogini dasha rocks par excellence. i have been using it with par excellence. you just need to know which tools to combine to make the reading and make sure , you use bhava chakra and not rasi chart. many thanks and humble regards, chandan singh. ps - my chart has both ashtottari applicable and yogini is universally applicable, but yogini gives accurate results , which sometimes cannot be explained from ashtottari. sohamsa , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Pavan ji, > Bphs had given 14 Nakshatra dasa including Yogni dasa. > Rules for deducing the results of Vimsottari dasa is given in detail > in many chapters of Bphs ,Laghu and Madya Parasari.These rules are not > applicable verbatim on Astottari dasa. > Kalachakra dasa is also dealt in detail in Bphs and other classics. > Astotri dasa and Shastihayani dasa are based on Sarbotrabhadra chakra. > THE RESULTS OF THESE DASAS ARE ANALYZED along WITH THIS CHAKRA. > > Yogni dasa is popular in northern hilly reason of India . I have yet able to lay hand > in any classic reference.Ist cycle is mainly to judge parents and elders , 2nd cycle for self and 3rd > cycle for the wellfare of progeny. > > Astottari dasa is more popular In Gujrat reason of India . and generally used to pin point > good and bad events in life. > Other Nakshatra dasas are applicable as per rules given in Bphs , but method of deducing > results are not given in any famous classics , as per my knowledge. Under these circumstances > we can only depend on the views of modern savants. > In fact if one masters Vimsottari dasa Astottari dasa ( and savotbhadra chakra). Kalachakra > dasa and yogni dasa , other nakshatra dasas will not be of any substantial value. > This comment is not applicable for dasas on Bhavas , signs and planets. > As Nakshtra chakra is based on the cycle of Moon , these dasas indicate one's mental inclination > and attitude towards pain and pleasure of the life. Whereas , Other dasas are based on Sun , > it indicate resources and spirit behind all our actions. > > BPHS says that the savants don't vouch safe for all the dasas mentioned herein (in > Verse 11 of chapter 46 -dasas Adhya) > > G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Hi Chandan, I agree Yogini dasa seems really amazing. For instance, yogini Bhramari is said to cause displacement, travels, shifting of residence, etc., and sure enough I have had many moves and travels during Bhramari periods. It also appears yogini dasa readings put more emphasis on the yogini's inherent nature rather than its lord's temporal nature and placement. Would you care to share your yogini dasa par excellence readings techniques? Cheers, Leosohamsa , "chandan s sabarwal" <wavelogix wrote:>> believe me yogini dasha rocks par excellence. i have been using it with par excellence. you just need to know which tools to combine to make the reading and make sure , you use bhava chakra and not rasi chart.> > many thanks and humble regards,> chandan singh.> > ps - my chart has both ashtottari applicable and yogini is universally applicable, but yogini gives accurate results , which sometimes cannot be explained from ashtottari.> > sohamsa , Gopal Goel gkgoel1937@ wrote:> >> > Dear Pavan ji,> > Bphs had given 14 Nakshatra dasa including Yogni dasa.> > Rules for deducing the results of Vimsottari dasa is given in detail> > in many chapters of Bphs ,Laghu and Madya Parasari.These rules are not > > applicable verbatim on Astottari dasa.> > Kalachakra dasa is also dealt in detail in Bphs and other classics.> > Astotri dasa and Shastihayani dasa are based on Sarbotrabhadra chakra.> > THE RESULTS OF THESE DASAS ARE ANALYZED along WITH THIS CHAKRA.> > > > Yogni dasa is popular in northern hilly reason of India . I have yet able to lay hand > > in any classic reference.Ist cycle is mainly to judge parents and elders , 2nd cycle for self and 3rd> > cycle for the wellfare of progeny.> > > > Astottari dasa is more popular In Gujrat reason of India . and generally used to pin point > > good and bad events in life.> > Other Nakshatra dasas are applicable as per rules given in Bphs , but method of deducing> > results are not given in any famous classics , as per my knowledge. Under these circumstances> > we can only depend on the views of modern savants.> > In fact if one masters Vimsottari dasa Astottari dasa ( and savotbhadra chakra). Kalachakra > > dasa and yogni dasa , other nakshatra dasas will not be of any substantial value.> > This comment is not applicable for dasas on Bhavas , signs and planets.> > As Nakshtra chakra is based on the cycle of Moon , these dasas indicate one's mental inclination> > and attitude towards pain and pleasure of the life. Whereas , Other dasas are based on Sun , > > it indicate resources and spirit behind all our actions.> > > > BPHS says that the savants don't vouch safe for all the dasas mentioned herein (in> > Verse 11 of chapter 46 -dasas Adhya)> > > > G.K.GOEL> > Ph: 09350311433> > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> > NEW DELHI-110 076> > INDIA> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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