Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Dear Mr. Pawan, I really liked it ! Fantastic reply... Today i gave call to my family astrologer at Calcutta who is now of 93 yrs, said that 11'th house is the house of magic. And if 11'th house gets control of 6'th any how, native uses enemies only for his benefit. He creates enmity only for win so person may become very greedy of power. And if Asc and 3'rd or 8'th any how comes in picture, native murders his enemy and comes out very clean like we see in politics rivalries. So Ju and Ve play important role for native to go over-board. Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Sun, 11/4/10, astro.talk <astro.talk wrote: astro.talk <astro.talk[soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunctionsohamsa Date: Sunday, 11 April, 2010, 2:31 PM This mail really chummed my attention to put my views, nothing but, only from classics."Tanou Tana Danda Hara"Hara of what, native ?There is talk of 6'th and 11'th in above lines so let us try to dig some more just to get clear cut idea and will try to anvil around those 2 houses.Classics say: If the lord of the 6th bhava from the Asc, the planet occupying the same and the one aspecting it, if those three planets occupy 11'th bhava in great strength, they will quickly cause the disappearance of the disease, danger from enemies – Massacre of enemies. If even one among them be very strong in 11'th, the trouble from ulcers, eemies etc will operate only to a small extent; and all that was said about the evils besetting the bhavas of which the planets under consideration are the karkas will be replaced by happiness.Commentry of Jaimini Sutras has been done by many so it depends on author how he twist it in what way.So if I will do then I will produce above lines just to ratify the meaning of Verse.~ Pawan Mauryasohamsa@ .com, Rajat Kapoor <rajat_kapoor@ ...> wrote:>> Om namo bhagvate hrishikesaya> Hare Rama Krishna> Dear Lalit,> > There is principle "Tanou Tana Danda Hara". As per this the 6th house from the 6th house, which is 11th house is about punishment and this is the house where Hara sits.> 8th house is Nij Dosha not punishment.> Rgds> > Rajat Kapoor> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Lalit Mishra <mishra.lalit@ ...>> sohamsa@ .com> Sat, 10 April, 2010 1:03:11 AM> Re: 06 - Re: [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunction> > > Hello,> > As I understand every house of horoscope reflects our karma and> lakschhya (target or misson) of life.> > Nakshatras and Navamsa are keys.> > 11th house is house of kama or fulfillment of desires or ambitions,> 8th and 12th house should be assessed for jail and arrest if you mean> 'punishment' is that.> > Thanks,> Lalit Mishra.> > On 4/9/10, Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma > wrote:> > Mishraji, Namaste.> > Interesting point. How do you read Karma? Is it from 7th house or from hous> > where Sa is posted?> > another theory is 5th house denotes poorva punya, and 11th house is house of> > punishment.> >> > My knowledge is limited and would be glad if you can throw some light.> >> > Thanks> > Lakshman> >> > --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Lalit Mishra <mishra.lalit@ gmail.com> wrote:> >> >> > Lalit Mishra <mishra.lalit@ gmail.com>> > 06 - Re: [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunction> > sohamsa@ .com> > Thursday, April 8, 2010, 11:05 PM> >> >> >> > Waitlist reason: sohamsa@ .com is not on your Guest List | Approve> > sender | Approve domain | Approve sohamsa@ .com |> >> >> >> >> > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Quote // So Ju and Ve play important role for native to go over-board. // Unquote Read above line as below : So Ju and Ve play important role for native not to go over-board. He also laughed at when i asked just to get the view on that how it is house of punishment. He laughed and scorned at me and commented 'Modern Astrologers'. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya sohamsa , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunilbhattacharjya wrote: > > Dear Mr. Pawan, >  > I really liked it ! Fantastic reply... >  > Today i gave call to my family astrologer at Calcutta who is now of 93 yrs, said that 11'th house is the house of magic. And if 11'th house gets control of 6'th any how, native uses enemies only for his benefit. He creates enmity only for win so person may become very greedy of power. And if Asc and 3'rd or 8'th any how comes in picture, native murders his enemy and comes out very clean like we see in politics rivalries. > > So Ju and Ve play important role for native to go over-board. > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > --- On Sun, 11/4/10, astro.talk <astro.talk wrote: > > > astro.talk <astro.talk > [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunction > sohamsa > Sunday, 11 April, 2010, 2:31 PM > > >  > > > > This mail really chummed my attention to put my views, nothing but, only from classics. > > " Tanou Tana Danda Hara " > > Hara of what, native ? > > There is talk of 6'th and 11'th in above lines so let us try to dig some more just to get clear cut idea and will try to anvil around those 2 houses. > > Classics say: If the lord of the 6th bhava from the Asc, the planet occupying the same and the one aspecting it, if those three planets occupy 11'th bhava in great strength, they will quickly cause the disappearance of the disease, danger from enemies †" Massacre of enemies. If even one among them be very strong in 11'th, the trouble from ulcers, eemies etc will operate only to a small extent; and all that was said about the evils besetting the bhavas of which the planets under consideration are the karkas will be replaced by happiness. > > Commentry of Jaimini Sutras has been done by many so it depends on author how he twist it in what way. > > So if I will do then I will produce above lines just to ratify the meaning of Verse. > > ~ Pawan Maurya > > sohamsa@ .com, Rajat Kapoor <rajat_kapoor@ ...> wrote: > > > > Om namo bhagvate hrishikesaya > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Lalit, > > > > There is principle " Tanou Tana Danda Hara " . As per this the 6th house from the 6th house, which is 11th house is about punishment and this is the house where Hara sits. > > 8th house is Nij Dosha not punishment. > > Rgds > > > > Rajat Kapoor > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Lalit Mishra <mishra.lalit@ ...> > > sohamsa@ .com > > Sat, 10 April, 2010 1:03:11 AM > > Re: 06 - Re: [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunction > > > > > > Hello, > > > > As I understand every house of horoscope reflects our karma and > > lakschhya (target or misson) of life. > > > > Nakshatras and Navamsa are keys. > > > > 11th house is house of kama or fulfillment of desires or ambitions, > > 8th and 12th house should be assessed for jail and arrest if you mean > > 'punishment' is that. > > > > Thanks, > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > On 4/9/10, Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma > wrote: > > > Mishraji, Namaste. > > > Interesting point. How do you read Karma? Is it from 7th house or from hous > > > where Sa is posted? > > > another theory is 5th house denotes poorva punya, and 11th house is house of > > > punishment. > > > > > > My knowledge is limited and would be glad if you can throw some light. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Lakshman > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Lalit Mishra <mishra.lalit@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra <mishra.lalit@ gmail.com> > > > 06 - Re: [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunction > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > Thursday, April 8, 2010, 11:05 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Waitlist reason: sohamsa@ .com is not on your Guest List | Approve > > > sender | Approve domain | Approve sohamsa@ .com | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Mr Seetharamji, Why you take efforts the astrologers for ride. Native got married at age of 19 ? Details clearly show that native should be psycho. I was reading mail from achieves of other groups and was amazed, you are Hench-man of PVR abuser and what type of the man you are, you are vomiting over his filth, shameless joker. You are person who works hand-in-gloves with dirty ppl who twisted and crucified Jesus Christ and concur with Aryan invasion theory. And you are reading Vaidik Classics. This group is of Sanjay Rath, so why you are roaming around here with your bushy-tail. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya sohamsa , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: > > Dear Pawan ji, > > Thanks for you inputs on the chart. Here are some of the details about the > native: > > 1. The paternal grand mother is 81 years old now. Health condition is > reasonably good. She can attend to her own needs. However, her maternal > grand mother passed away at the age of 60. > 2. The father of the native is brought up by own mother and not by > step-mother > 3. The native is married and has a 3+ year old daughter. The kid is quite > normal and very active and naughty > 4. The mother of the native is also doing fine as of now > > I thought that a debilitated planet in a dustana is good as it can harm the > dustana and in turn bring good to the native. Am I wrong? > > I wanted you to specifically comment on the Sat+Ketu combo in this chart. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:25 AM, astro.talk <astro.talk wrote: > > > > > > > Mr Seetharamji, > > > > I am posting some points. > > > > You are good astrologer so I think you may understand about the points > > which I will brief over here in this mail. > > > > Firstly i would like to take one feed-back. > > > > What has been the status of his paternal grand-mother, longevity-wise? > > > > By above update i just want to see who is bossing over Mo; Me - afflicted > > by Su & Ma - or Ve ? > > > > From following points, you will get the point what i want to dig-up : > > > > When Ju reaches to 12'th and it also becomes retro then person used to > > remain indebted on the fold of children - Kids may be Mentally retarded. > > > > Good point is Ju's rashi is not falling in 5'th house, but curse from 6'th > > is coming to 5'th by fast moving planets - consider the point of Transit, > > and Ju VMD – Karaka of Children - is running so native should remain > > cautious in this period, it may open can-of-worms if he get married and have > > child. Even the AD or VMD of Sa can ensue same problem. > > > > I have validated above point on 5-6 data and got very correct - this point > > I have picked up from classic. If any of the native is having above problem > > kindly apply what I have drafted above. I am 200 percent sure that it will > > be correct. Give a try ! > > > > Weak waning Mo with Su brings bad luck to native's mother and it is 9'th to > > 9'th so just want to track down the status of Paternal-Grand-Mother. I think > > natives father would have been brought up by step mom. > > > > Some more points about this chart : > > > > Classics Say Me, Mo don't augur well if occupy same house or get intimacy > > any how and here by exchange of Rashis: person faces some problem on the > > line of Psychiatric disease - problem from 6'th is also reaching to 5'th so > > it is again fuelling the problem. > > > > One more thing, 3'rd 8'th and 10'th are connected in 6,th and Ma is > > combust. So he may loose balance and may shoot somebody down in arguments; > > when will this unfold, depends on VMD and transit. Asc lord is giving aspect > > from 9'th to 6'th. > > > > Classics say: when 3'rd and 8'th get connected, native jumps in the war and > > can devastate enemy camp. > > > > ~Pawan Maurya > > > > PS : I don't cook up my own points like it is 6'th or 7'th from AL or > > Lagnamsa or Karkamsha - as modern astrologer are doing and bringing bad name > > to Vedic astrology, I strictly follow classics. > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, " astro.talk " > > <astro.talk@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Mr Seetharam, > > > Namaste! > > > > > > Sorry for late reply. > > > > > > I don't know how much close your kith-kin is, about whom you are > > referring to. So, i would like to be reticent in expressing views on forum. > > > > > > One thing was taking flak when i opened this data. I will write later. > > > > > > ~ Pawan Maurya > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pawan, > > > > > > > > Here is a chart with the said combination. How do you think it will > > affect > > > > the native or the father? This person is a close relative of mine. > > Hence, I > > > > am keen to know about it. > > > > > > > > July 15, 1985 > > > > 22:00 hrs > > > > Bangalore. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Astro Talk <astro.talk@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Ve or Su used to be in good condition, pitri dosha get cancelled > > out: > > > > > Classics say the same. I have validated this on many charts, ppl who > > used to > > > > > have very bad 9'th house but good Su or Ve facilitates way out from > > > > > pitri-dosha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa + Ke where- ever sit together make that house fruitless: Classics > > say > > > > > the same. > > > > > > > > > > When 9'th lord reaches out to 4'th in good condition and if that > > planet, > > > > > which becomes instrumental for the same, is either Ve or Ju, creates > > one > > > > > fantastic Raj-Yoga – endow the position of Monarch . Sometimes this > > Yoga > > > > > scribbles down `Rags to Riches' story. > > > > > > > > > > So there is fight between good and some cursed yoga in your > > horoscope, so > > > > > way out for this is to be careful during transits and VMD. > > > > > > > > > > Put-on diamond, problems in your life related to pitri dosha will get > > > > > buried. > > > > > > > > > > Aspect of Ju® from 12'th on Ve is trying to wane the brightness of > > > > > Raj-Yoga; so perform some shanti pooja for Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > ~ Pawan Maurya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 6/4/10, ultraton_16 <Ultraton_16@>* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ultraton_16 <Ultraton_16@> > > > > > [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunction > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> > > > > > Tuesday, 6 April, 2010, 6:07 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > July 17, 1985. 8:25pm. Dibrugarh, Assam, India. forgot to place time > > sorry > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com< > > http://in.mc950.mail./mc/compose?to=sohamsa%40>, > > > > > " ultraton_16 " <Ultraton_16@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > it's July 17, 1985. Dibrugarh, Assam, India. I think Pitri dosha is > > Sat > > > > > with any node, while Sun + node is Pitri Shaapa, and Mars + node > > shows Preta > > > > > Dosha, but I may be wrong. and ur right Lalit, my father does have > > severe > > > > > health issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com< > > http://in.mc950.mail./mc/compose?to=sohamsa%40>, > > > > > " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ultraton, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your chart looks interesting, pls share the details - Your > > current > > > > > dasha > > > > > > > is not known but with Sat + Ketu in 9'th, It can be said that > > your have > > > > > > > to serve your father in various ways and might be he is having > > health > > > > > > > problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Much will depend on Venus and Sun's placement and aspects, > > Without > > > > > > > complete chart, discussion doesnt guide us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com< > > http://in.mc950.mail./mc/compose?to=sohamsa%40>, > > > > > " ultraton_16 " <Ultraton_16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but isn't Sa+Ke Pitri Dosha, yielding obstructions to the > > native > > > > > based > > > > > > > on the sign of the house in which the combination is located. In > > my > > > > > > > chart I have Sa+Ke in the 9th house in Libra, doesn't that mean > > that I > > > > > > > have obstructions in Libra specific matters... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com< > > http://in.mc950.mail./mc/compose?to=sohamsa%40>, > > > > > Lalit Mishra mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn - Ketu conjunction always impacts longevity. > > > > > > > > > It's makes a person cunning as well as cruel unless there is > > some > > > > > > > aupecious > > > > > > > > > influence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even benefic Saturn harms some or other signification of the > > house > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > placed as well as the house it's aspecting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Gopal Goel gkgoel1937@wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > Saturn - Ketu combination is benefic particularly in > > > > > > > > > > 6H,8H and 9H provided there as no third planet with > > > > > > > > > > them(in that case all the three will give adverse results). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This combination in 10th house give auspicious results > > provided: > > > > > > > > > > 1. 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Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Dear Resepected Sunilji, I do a lot respect of you as you are against of Aryan Invasion theory and also take alot pain of crucification of Jesus. I am Hindu but in my home and in temple – at Home - i have larg- large posters of Jesus Christ. Now let me come to the point - Seetharam doesn’t know Kendradhipatu gets canceled out when Asc comes iunder this dosha as Asc has been counted under Angle. Take case of Sanjay Ji, That dosha really works on him: no never, his Ju is fantastic and Ke in 10’th is Gold over it. Seetharam also doesn’t know that DevaKeralam some where enunciated that when Asc lord, being Retro , sits in Kendra and gives aspect to 10'th creates some sort of Raj-Yoga and see Mr Lalit has confirmed that he got 4 promotions with good increment when Ju was passing over his natal Ju. He says Ke, Mo exchange is good? What type of the fraudulents are lurking around on groups, pitched on the theme of Vaidik astrology, who takes chip on the shoulder because ppl buried controversy of Aryan Invasion theory? It is really shame on such type ppl. I was not aware that he was hatching, abetting and conniving against me just to pit me down.He sucked my 1 hrs of hard work. Now no reply in personal chart. It is ridiculous that native got married at 19. Native and his Grand Mother is having 56 yrs of difference in age. ~ Pawan Maurya --- On Sun, 11/4/10, sunilbhattacharjya <sunilbhattacharjya wrote: sunilbhattacharjya <sunilbhattacharjya[soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunctionsohamsa Date: Sunday, 11 April, 2010, 3:27 PM Mr Seetharamji,Why you take efforts the astrologers for ride.Native got married at age of 19 ? Details clearly show that native should be psycho.I was reading mail from achieves of other groups and was amazed, you are Hench-man of PVR abuser and what type of the man you are, you are vomiting over his filth, shameless joker. You are person who works hand-in-gloves with dirty ppl who twisted and crucified Jesus Christ and concur with Aryan invasion theory. And you are reading Vaidik Classics. This group is of Sanjay Rath, so why you are roaming around here with your bushy-tail.Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjyasohamsa@ .com, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Pawan ji,> > Thanks for you inputs on the chart. Here are some of the details about the> native:> > 1. The paternal grand mother is 81 years old now. Health condition is> reasonably good. She can attend to her own needs. However, her maternal> grand mother passed away at the age of 60.> 2. The father of the native is brought up by own mother and not by> step-mother> 3. The native is married and has a 3+ year old daughter. The kid is quite> normal and very active and naughty> 4. The mother of the native is also doing fine as of now> > I thought that a debilitated planet in a dustana is good as it can harm the> dustana and in turn bring good to the native. Am I wrong?> > I wanted you to specifically comment on the Sat+Ketu combo in this chart.> > Regards,> Krishna> > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:25 AM, astro.talk <astro.talk@ ...> wrote:> > >> >> > Mr Seetharamji,> >> > I am posting some points.> >> > You are good astrologer so I think you may understand about the points> > which I will brief over here in this mail.> >> > Firstly i would like to take one feed-back.> >> > What has been the status of his paternal grand-mother, longevity-wise?> >> > By above update i just want to see who is bossing over Mo; Me - afflicted> > by Su & Ma - or Ve ?> >> > From following points, you will get the point what i want to dig-up :> >> > When Ju reaches to 12'th and it also becomes retro then person used to> > remain indebted on the fold of children - Kids may be Mentally retarded.> >> > Good point is Ju's rashi is not falling in 5'th house, but curse from 6'th> > is coming to 5'th by fast moving planets - consider the point of Transit,> > and Ju VMD – Karaka of Children - is running so native should remain> > cautious in this period, it may open can-of-worms if he get married and have> > child. Even the AD or VMD of Sa can ensue same problem.> >> > I have validated above point on 5-6 data and got very correct - this point> > I have picked up from classic. If any of the native is having above problem> > kindly apply what I have drafted above. I am 200 percent sure that it will> > be correct. Give a try !> >> > Weak waning Mo with Su brings bad luck to native's mother and it is 9'th to> > 9'th so just want to track down the status of Paternal-Grand- Mother. I think> > natives father would have been brought up by step mom.> >> > Some more points about this chart :> >> > Classics Say Me, Mo don't augur well if occupy same house or get intimacy> > any how and here by exchange of Rashis: person faces some problem on the> > line of Psychiatric disease - problem from 6'th is also reaching to 5'th so> > it is again fuelling the problem.> >> > One more thing, 3'rd 8'th and 10'th are connected in 6,th and Ma is> > combust. So he may loose balance and may shoot somebody down in arguments;> > when will this unfold, depends on VMD and transit. Asc lord is giving aspect> > from 9'th to 6'th.> >> > Classics say: when 3'rd and 8'th get connected, native jumps in the war and> > can devastate enemy camp.> >> > ~Pawan Maurya> >> > PS : I don't cook up my own points like it is 6'th or 7'th from AL or> > Lagnamsa or Karkamsha - as modern astrologer are doing and bringing bad name> > to Vedic astrology, I strictly follow classics.> >> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40gro ups.com>, "astro.talk"> > <astro.talk@ > wrote:> > >> > > Hello Mr Seetharam,> > > Namaste!> > >> > > Sorry for late reply.> > >> > > I don't know how much close your kith-kin is, about whom you are> > referring to. So, i would like to be reticent in expressing views on forum.> > >> > > One thing was taking flak when i opened this data. I will write later.> > >> > > ~ Pawan Maurya> > >> > >> > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40gro ups.com>,> > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Pawan,> > > >> > > > Here is a chart with the said combination. How do you think it will> > affect> > > > the native or the father? This person is a close relative of mine.> > Hence, I> > > > am keen to know about it.> > > >> > > > July 15, 1985> > > > 22:00 hrs> > > > Bangalore.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Krishna> > > >> > > >> > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Astro Talk <astro.talk@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > If Ve or Su used to be in good condition, pitri dosha get cancelled> > out:> > > > > Classics say the same. I have validated this on many charts, ppl who> > used to> > > > > have very bad 9'th house but good Su or Ve facilitates way out from> > > > > pitri-dosha.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Sa + Ke where- ever sit together make that house fruitless: Classics> > say> > > > > the same.> > > > >> > > > > When 9'th lord reaches out to 4'th in good condition and if that> > planet,> > > > > which becomes instrumental for the same, is either Ve or Ju, creates> > one> > > > > fantastic Raj-Yoga – endow the position of Monarch . Sometimes this> > Yoga> > > > > scribbles down `Rags to Riches' story.> > > > >> > > > > So there is fight between good and some cursed yoga in your> > horoscope, so> > > > > way out for this is to be careful during transits and VMD.> > > > >> > > > > Put-on diamond, problems in your life related to pitri dosha will get> > > > > buried.> > > > >> > > > > Aspect of Ju® from 12'th on Ve is trying to wane the brightness of> > > > > Raj-Yoga; so perform some shanti pooja for Jupiter.> > > > >> > > > > ~ Pawan Maurya> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On *Tue, 6/4/10, ultraton_16 <Ultraton_16@ >* wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ultraton_16 <Ultraton_16@ >> > > > > [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunction> > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40gro ups.com>> > > > > Tuesday, 6 April, 2010, 6:07 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > July 17, 1985. 8:25pm. Dibrugarh, Assam, India. forgot to place time> > sorry> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com<> > http://in.mc950. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=sohamsa% 40. com>,> > > > > "ultraton_16" <Ultraton_16@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > it's July 17, 1985. Dibrugarh, Assam, India. I think Pitri dosha is> > Sat> > > > > with any node, while Sun + node is Pitri Shaapa, and Mars + node> > shows Preta> > > > > Dosha, but I may be wrong. and ur right Lalit, my father does have> > severe> > > > > health issues.> > > > > >> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com<> > http://in.mc950. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=sohamsa% 40. com>,> > > > > "litsol" <mishra.lalit@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Ultraton,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Your chart looks interesting, pls share the details - Your> > current> > > > > dasha> > > > > > > is not known but with Sat + Ketu in 9'th, It can be said that> > your have> > > > > > > to serve your father in various ways and might be he is having> > health> > > > > > > problems.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Much will depend on Venus and Sun's placement and aspects,> > Without> > > > > > > complete chart, discussion doesnt guide us.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > Lalit Mishra> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com<> > http://in.mc950. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=sohamsa% 40. com>,> > > > > "ultraton_16" <Ultraton_16@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > but isn't Sa+Ke Pitri Dosha, yielding obstructions to the> > native> > > > > based> > > > > > > on the sign of the house in which the combination is located. In> > my> > > > > > > chart I have Sa+Ke in the 9th house in Libra, doesn't that mean> > that I> > > > > > > have obstructions in Libra specific matters...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com<> > http://in.mc950. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=sohamsa% 40. com>,> > > > > Lalit Mishra mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Saturn - Ketu conjunction always impacts longevity.> > > > > > > > > It's makes a person cunning as well as cruel unless there is> > some> > > > > > > aupecious> > > > > > > > > influence.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Even benefic Saturn harms some or other signification of the> > house> > > > > > > it's> > > > > > > > > placed as well as the house it's aspecting.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Gopal Goel gkgoel1937@wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > Saturn - Ketu combination is benefic particularly in> > > > > > > > > > 6H,8H and 9H provided there as no third planet with> > > > > > > > > > them(in that case all the three will give adverse results).> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This combination in 10th house give auspicious results> > provided:> > > > > > > > > > 1. Saturn is benefic for the chart> > > > > > > > > > 2. 2H is vacant> > > > > > > > > > 3. Any of the three planets should not be in 4H - Sun ,> > Moon and> > > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL> > > > > > > > > > Ph: 09350311433> > > > > > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> > > > > > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076> > > > > > > > > > INDIA> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Dear Respected Sunilji, I do a lot respect of you as you are against of Aryan Invasion theory and also take alot pain of crucification of Jesus. I am Hindu but in my home and in temple - at Home - i have large - large posters of Jesus Christ. Now let me come to the point - Seetharam doesn't know Kendra-adhipati dosha gets canceled out when Asc comes under this dosha as Asc has been counted under Angle. Take case of Sanjay Ji, That dosha really works on him: no never, his Ju is fantastic and Ke in 10'th is Gold over it. Seetharam also doesn't know that DevaKeralam some where has enunciated that when Asc lord, being Retro, sits in Kendra and gives aspect to 10'th creates some sort of Raj-Yoga and see Mr Lalit has confirmed that he got 4 promotions with good increment when Ju was passing over his natal Ju. He says Ke, Mo exchange is good? What type of the fraudulents are lurking around on groups, pitched on the theme of Vaidik astrology, who takes chip on the shoulder because ppl buried controversy of Aryan Invasion theory? It is really shame on such type ppl. I was not aware that he was hatching, abetting and conniving against me just to pit me down. He sucked my 1 hrs of hard work. Now no reply in personal chart. It is ridiculous that native got married at 19. Native and his Grand Mother is having 56 yrs of difference in age. ~ Pawan Maurya sohamsa , Astro Talk <astro.talk wrote: > > Dear Resepected Sunilji, >  > I do a lot respect of you as you are against of Aryan Invasion theory and also take alot pain of crucification of Jesus. >  > I am Hindu but in my home and in temple †" at Home -  i have larg- large posters of Jesus Christ. >  > Now let me come to the point - >  > Seetharam doesn’t know Kendradhipatu gets canceled out when Asc comes iunder this dosha as Asc has been counted under Angle. Take case of Sanjay Ji, That dosha really works on him: no never, his Ju is fantastic and Ke in 10’th is Gold over it. >  > Seetharam also doesn’t know that DevaKeralam some where enunciated that when Asc lord, being Retro , sits in Kendra and gives aspect to 10'th creates some sort of Raj-Yoga and see Mr Lalit has confirmed that he got 4 promotions with good increment when Ju was passing over his natal Ju. >  > He says Ke, Mo exchange is good? What type of the fraudulents are lurking around on groups, pitched on the theme of Vaidik astrology, who takes chip on the shoulder because ppl buried controversy of Aryan Invasion theory? It is really shame on such type ppl. >  > I was not aware that he was hatching, abetting and conniving against me just to pit me down.He sucked my 1 hrs of hard work. Now no reply in personal chart. >  > It is ridiculous that native got married at 19. Native and his Grand Mother is having 56 yrs of difference in age. >  > ~ Pawan Maurya >  > --- On Sun, 11/4/10, sunilbhattacharjya <sunilbhattacharjya wrote: > > > sunilbhattacharjya <sunilbhattacharjya > [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunction > sohamsa > Sunday, 11 April, 2010, 3:27 PM > > >  > > > > Mr Seetharamji, > > Why you take efforts the astrologers for ride. > > Native got married at age of 19 ? Details clearly show that native should be psycho. > > I was reading mail from achieves of other groups and was amazed, you are Hench-man of PVR abuser and what type of the man you are, you are vomiting over his filth, shameless joker. You are person who works hand-in-gloves with dirty ppl who twisted and crucified Jesus Christ and concur with Aryan invasion theory. And you are reading Vaidik Classics. > > This group is of Sanjay Rath, so why you are roaming around here with your bushy-tail. > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > sohamsa@ .com, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Pawan ji, > > > > Thanks for you inputs on the chart. Here are some of the details about the > > native: > > > > 1. The paternal grand mother is 81 years old now. Health condition is > > reasonably good. She can attend to her own needs. However, her maternal > > grand mother passed away at the age of 60. > > 2. The father of the native is brought up by own mother and not by > > step-mother > > 3. The native is married and has a 3+ year old daughter. The kid is quite > > normal and very active and naughty > > 4. The mother of the native is also doing fine as of now > > > > I thought that a debilitated planet in a dustana is good as it can harm the > > dustana and in turn bring good to the native. Am I wrong? > > > > I wanted you to specifically comment on the Sat+Ketu combo in this chart. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:25 AM, astro.talk <astro.talk@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Seetharamji, > > > > > > I am posting some points. > > > > > > You are good astrologer so I think you may understand about the points > > > which I will brief over here in this mail. > > > > > > Firstly i would like to take one feed-back. > > > > > > What has been the status of his paternal grand-mother, longevity-wise? > > > > > > By above update i just want to see who is bossing over Mo; Me - afflicted > > > by Su & Ma - or Ve ? > > > > > > From following points, you will get the point what i want to dig-up : > > > > > > When Ju reaches to 12'th and it also becomes retro then person used to > > > remain indebted on the fold of children - Kids may be Mentally retarded. > > > > > > Good point is Ju's rashi is not falling in 5'th house, but curse from 6'th > > > is coming to 5'th by fast moving planets - consider the point of Transit, > > > and Ju VMD †" Karaka of Children - is running so native should remain > > > cautious in this period, it may open can-of-worms if he get married and have > > > child. Even the AD or VMD of Sa can ensue same problem. > > > > > > I have validated above point on 5-6 data and got very correct - this point > > > I have picked up from classic. If any of the native is having above problem > > > kindly apply what I have drafted above. I am 200 percent sure that it will > > > be correct. Give a try ! > > > > > > Weak waning Mo with Su brings bad luck to native's mother and it is 9'th to > > > 9'th so just want to track down the status of Paternal-Grand- Mother. I think > > > natives father would have been brought up by step mom. > > > > > > Some more points about this chart : > > > > > > Classics Say Me, Mo don't augur well if occupy same house or get intimacy > > > any how and here by exchange of Rashis: person faces some problem on the > > > line of Psychiatric disease - problem from 6'th is also reaching to 5'th so > > > it is again fuelling the problem. > > > > > > One more thing, 3'rd 8'th and 10'th are connected in 6,th and Ma is > > > combust. So he may loose balance and may shoot somebody down in arguments; > > > when will this unfold, depends on VMD and transit. Asc lord is giving aspect > > > from 9'th to 6'th. > > > > > > Classics say: when 3'rd and 8'th get connected, native jumps in the war and > > > can devastate enemy camp. > > > > > > ~Pawan Maurya > > > > > > PS : I don't cook up my own points like it is 6'th or 7'th from AL or > > > Lagnamsa or Karkamsha - as modern astrologer are doing and bringing bad name > > > to Vedic astrology, I strictly follow classics. > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40gro ups.com>, " astro.talk " > > > <astro.talk@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Mr Seetharam, > > > > Namaste! > > > > > > > > Sorry for late reply. > > > > > > > > I don't know how much close your kith-kin is, about whom you are > > > referring to. So, i would like to be reticent in expressing views on forum. > > > > > > > > One thing was taking flak when i opened this data. I will write later. > > > > > > > > ~ Pawan Maurya > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40gro ups.com>, > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pawan, > > > > > > > > > > Here is a chart with the said combination. How do you think it will > > > affect > > > > > the native or the father? This person is a close relative of mine. > > > Hence, I > > > > > am keen to know about it. > > > > > > > > > > July 15, 1985 > > > > > 22:00 hrs > > > > > Bangalore. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Astro Talk <astro.talk@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Ve or Su used to be in good condition, pitri dosha get cancelled > > > out: > > > > > > Classics say the same. I have validated this on many charts, ppl who > > > used to > > > > > > have very bad 9'th house but good Su or Ve facilitates way out from > > > > > > pitri-dosha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa + Ke where- ever sit together make that house fruitless: Classics > > > say > > > > > > the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > When 9'th lord reaches out to 4'th in good condition and if that > > > planet, > > > > > > which becomes instrumental for the same, is either Ve or Ju, creates > > > one > > > > > > fantastic Raj-Yoga †" endow the position of Monarch . Sometimes this > > > Yoga > > > > > > scribbles down `Rags to Riches' story. > > > > > > > > > > > > So there is fight between good and some cursed yoga in your > > > horoscope, so > > > > > > way out for this is to be careful during transits and VMD. > > > > > > > > > > > > Put-on diamond, problems in your life related to pitri dosha will get > > > > > > buried. > > > > > > > > > > > > Aspect of Ju® from 12'th on Ve is trying to wane the brightness of > > > > > > Raj-Yoga; so perform some shanti pooja for Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Pawan Maurya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 6/4/10, ultraton_16 <Ultraton_16@ >* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ultraton_16 <Ultraton_16@ > > > > > > > [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunction > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40gro ups.com> > > > > > > Tuesday, 6 April, 2010, 6:07 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > July 17, 1985. 8:25pm. Dibrugarh, Assam, India. forgot to place time > > > sorry > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com< > > > http://in.mc950. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > " ultraton_16 " <Ultraton_16@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's July 17, 1985. Dibrugarh, Assam, India. I think Pitri dosha is > > > Sat > > > > > > with any node, while Sun + node is Pitri Shaapa, and Mars + node > > > shows Preta > > > > > > Dosha, but I may be wrong. and ur right Lalit, my father does have > > > severe > > > > > > health issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com< > > > http://in.mc950. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > " litsol " <mishra.lalit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ultraton, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your chart looks interesting, pls share the details - Your > > > current > > > > > > dasha > > > > > > > > is not known but with Sat + Ketu in 9'th, It can be said that > > > your have > > > > > > > > to serve your father in various ways and might be he is having > > > health > > > > > > > > problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Much will depend on Venus and Sun's placement and aspects, > > > Without > > > > > > > > complete chart, discussion doesnt guide us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com< > > > http://in.mc950. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > " ultraton_16 " <Ultraton_16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but isn't Sa+Ke Pitri Dosha, yielding obstructions to the > > > native > > > > > > based > > > > > > > > on the sign of the house in which the combination is located. In > > > my > > > > > > > > chart I have Sa+Ke in the 9th house in Libra, doesn't that mean > > > that I > > > > > > > > have obstructions in Libra specific matters... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com< > > > http://in.mc950. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > Lalit Mishra mishra.lalit@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn - Ketu conjunction always impacts longevity. > > > > > > > > > > It's makes a person cunning as well as cruel unless there is > > > some > > > > > > > > aupecious > > > > > > > > > > influence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even benefic Saturn harms some or other signification of the > > > house > > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > > placed as well as the house it's aspecting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Gopal Goel gkgoel1937@wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn - Ketu combination is benefic particularly in > > > > > > > > > > > 6H,8H and 9H provided there as no third planet with > > > > > > > > > > > them(in that case all the three will give adverse results). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This combination in 10th house give auspicious results > > > provided: > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Saturn is benefic for the chart > > > > > > > > > > > 2. 2H is vacant > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Any of the three planets should not be in 4H - Sun , > > > Moon and > > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > > > > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > > > > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > > > > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > > > > > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Dear Krishnamurthy, Don’t look at the gifted horse in mouth by squint eyes. Maliciously this man made the story; Mr Pawan guessed that his child could have some mental issues in issues. But see he advertently said that child's age is 3+ means person can just tell that yes child is not retarded as he fudged that daughter is 3 + so it is properly diagnosed that no it is not like and he added one comment that ‘daughter is kicking’ . Raise your paint, raise your image man. http://in.linkedin.com/pub/krishnamurthy-seetharama/0/658/19 Kindly match his photo with the pic placed by him at Mrs Wendy's group in file section. Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Sun, 11/4/10, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58Re: [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunctionsohamsa Date: Sunday, 11 April, 2010, 3:47 PM :-) Regards,Krishna On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:57 PM, sunilbhattacharjya@ rocketmail. com <sunilbhattacharjya@ rocketmail. com> wrote: Mr Seetharamji,Why you take efforts the astrologers for ride.Native got married at age of 19 ? Details clearly show that native should be psycho.I was reading mail from achieves of other groups and was amazed, you are Hench-man of PVR abuser and what type of the man you are, you are vomiting over his filth, shameless joker. You are person who works hand-in-gloves with dirty ppl who twisted and crucified Jesus Christ and concur with Aryan invasion theory. And you are reading Vaidik Classics. This group is of Sanjay Rath, so why you are roaming around here with your bushy-tail.Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya sohamsa@ .com, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58@. ..> wrote:> > Dear Pawan ji,> > Thanks for you inputs on the chart. Here are some of the details about the> native:> > 1. The paternal grand mother is 81 years old now. Health condition is> reasonably good. She can attend to her own needs. However, her maternal> grand mother passed away at the age of 60.> 2. The father of the native is brought up by own mother and not by> step-mother> 3. The native is married and has a 3+ year old daughter. The kid is quite> normal and very active and naughty> 4. The mother of the native is also doing fine as of now> > I thought that a debilitated planet in a dustana is good as it can harm the> dustana and in turn bring good to the native. Am I wrong?> > I wanted you to specifically comment on the Sat+Ketu combo in this chart.> > Regards,> Krishna> > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:25 AM, astro.talk <astro.talk@. ..> wrote:> > >> >> > Mr Seetharamji,> >> > I am posting some points.> >> > You are good astrologer so I think you may understand about the points> > which I will brief over here in this mail.> >> > Firstly i would like to take one feed-back.> >> > What has been the status of his paternal grand-mother, longevity-wise?> >> > By above update i just want to see who is bossing over Mo; Me - afflicted> > by Su & Ma - or Ve ?> >> > From following points, you will get the point what i want to dig-up :> >> > When Ju reaches to 12'th and it also becomes retro then person used to> > remain indebted on the fold of children - Kids may be Mentally retarded.> >> > Good point is Ju's rashi is not falling in 5'th house, but curse from 6'th> > is coming to 5'th by fast moving planets - consider the point of Transit,> > and Ju VMD – Karaka of Children - is running so native should remain> > cautious in this period, it may open can-of-worms if he get married and have> > child. Even the AD or VMD of Sa can ensue same problem.> >> > I have validated above point on 5-6 data and got very correct - this point> > I have picked up from classic. If any of the native is having above problem> > kindly apply what I have drafted above. I am 200 percent sure that it will> > be correct. Give a try !> >> > Weak waning Mo with Su brings bad luck to native's mother and it is 9'th to> > 9'th so just want to track down the status of Paternal-Grand- Mother. I think> > natives father would have been brought up by step mom.> >> > Some more points about this chart :> >> > Classics Say Me, Mo don't augur well if occupy same house or get intimacy> > any how and here by exchange of Rashis: person faces some problem on the> > line of Psychiatric disease - problem from 6'th is also reaching to 5'th so> > it is again fuelling the problem.> >> > One more thing, 3'rd 8'th and 10'th are connected in 6,th and Ma is> > combust. So he may loose balance and may shoot somebody down in arguments;> > when will this unfold, depends on VMD and transit. Asc lord is giving aspect> > from 9'th to 6'th.> >> > Classics say: when 3'rd and 8'th get connected, native jumps in the war and> > can devastate enemy camp.> >> > ~Pawan Maurya> >> > PS : I don't cook up my own points like it is 6'th or 7'th from AL or> > Lagnamsa or Karkamsha - as modern astrologer are doing and bringing bad name> > to Vedic astrology, I strictly follow classics.> >> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40. com>, "astro.talk" > > <astro.talk@> wrote:> > >> > > Hello Mr Seetharam,> > > Namaste!> > >> > > Sorry for late reply.> > >> > > I don't know how much close your kith-kin is, about whom you are> > referring to. So, i would like to be reticent in expressing views on forum.> > >> > > One thing was taking flak when i opened this data. I will write later.> > >> > > ~ Pawan Maurya> > >> > >> > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40. com>, > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Pawan,> > > >> > > > Here is a chart with the said combination. How do you think it will> > affect> > > > the native or the father? This person is a close relative of mine.> > Hence, I> > > > am keen to know about it.> > > >> > > > July 15, 1985> > > > 22:00 hrs> > > > Bangalore.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Krishna> > > >> > > >> > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Astro Talk <astro.talk@> wrote:> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > If Ve or Su used to be in good condition, pitri dosha get cancelled> > out:> > > > > Classics say the same. I have validated this on many charts, ppl who> > used to> > > > > have very bad 9'th house but good Su or Ve facilitates way out from> > > > > pitri-dosha.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Sa + Ke where- ever sit together make that house fruitless: Classics> > say> > > > > the same.> > > > >> > > > > When 9'th lord reaches out to 4'th in good condition and if that> > planet,> > > > > which becomes instrumental for the same, is either Ve or Ju, creates> > one> > > > > fantastic Raj-Yoga – endow the position of Monarch . Sometimes this> > Yoga> > > > > scribbles down `Rags to Riches' story.> > > > >> > > > > So there is fight between good and some cursed yoga in your> > horoscope, so> > > > > way out for this is to be careful during transits and VMD.> > > > >> > > > > Put-on diamond, problems in your life related to pitri dosha will get> > > > > buried.> > > > >> > > > > Aspect of Ju® from 12'th on Ve is trying to wane the brightness of> > > > > Raj-Yoga; so perform some shanti pooja for Jupiter.> > > > >> > > > > ~ Pawan Maurya> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On *Tue, 6/4/10, ultraton_16 <Ultraton_16@>* wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ultraton_16 <Ultraton_16@>> > > > > [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunction> > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40. com> > > > > > Tuesday, 6 April, 2010, 6:07 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > July 17, 1985. 8:25pm. Dibrugarh, Assam, India. forgot to place time> > sorry> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com<> > http://in.mc950. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=sohamsa% 40. com>,> > > > > "ultraton_16" <Ultraton_16@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > it's July 17, 1985. Dibrugarh, Assam, India. I think Pitri dosha is> > Sat> > > > > with any node, while Sun + node is Pitri Shaapa, and Mars + node> > shows Preta> > > > > Dosha, but I may be wrong. and ur right Lalit, my father does have> > severe> > > > > health issues.> > > > > >> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com<> > http://in.mc950. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=sohamsa% 40. com>,> > > > > "litsol" <mishra.lalit@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Ultraton,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Your chart looks interesting, pls share the details - Your> > current> > > > > dasha> > > > > > > is not known but with Sat + Ketu in 9'th, It can be said that> > your have> > > > > > > to serve your father in various ways and might be he is having> > health> > > > > > > problems.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Much will depend on Venus and Sun's placement and aspects,> > Without> > > > > > > complete chart, discussion doesnt guide us.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > Lalit Mishra> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com<> > http://in.mc950. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=sohamsa% 40. com>,> > > > > "ultraton_16" <Ultraton_16@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > but isn't Sa+Ke Pitri Dosha, yielding obstructions to the> > native> > > > > based> > > > > > > on the sign of the house in which the combination is located. In> > my> > > > > > > chart I have Sa+Ke in the 9th house in Libra, doesn't that mean> > that I> > > > > > > have obstructions in Libra specific matters...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com<> > http://in.mc950. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=sohamsa% 40. com>,> > > > > Lalit Mishra mishra.lalit@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Saturn - Ketu conjunction always impacts longevity.> > > > > > > > > It's makes a person cunning as well as cruel unless there is> > some> > > > > > > aupecious> > > > > > > > > influence.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Even benefic Saturn harms some or other signification of the> > house> > > > > > > it's> > > > > > > > > placed as well as the house it's aspecting.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Lalit Mishra.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Gopal Goel gkgoel1937@wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > Saturn - Ketu combination is benefic particularly in> > > > > > > > > > 6H,8H and 9H provided there as no third planet with> > > > > > > > > > them(in that case all the three will give adverse results).> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This combination in 10th house give auspicious results> > provided:> > > > > > > > > > 1. 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Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Dear Mr Lalit, Do you want to know why this man - Krishnamurthy Seetharama, was rubbing shoulder with you on Jyotish Group, because you were fighting for truth - exposing Guru-Chandal and he was finding himself floudering around in it because of that so he wanted to flout the real Jyotish principles and humiliate you. He has written as follows on his profile:- ***** I am a 1958 born, living in Bangalore with my family. ***** http://www.blogger.com/profile/02880298518802532695 Now open up the stars position in 1958, Ra and Ju were very close in same house so he is having Guru-Chandal Yoga. And you were vehemently opposing it. Got the point. Now Guru Chandal theory is hence proved that native used to have no moral values as he lied with some data and tried to pit me down. And see how much sweet he is in his writtings. ~ Pawan Maurya sohamsa , Lalit Mishra <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Hello Everybody, > > I had replied to queries asked in the thread but seems my post is missing, > > Pls consider there are two systems in Vedic Astrology - 1. Parashara 2. > Jaimini, In order to explain life, Jaimini used different computation and > permutation of house then that of Parashara. > > Parashara is based on Lagna and Bhava whereas Jaimini is based on Pada. > > Tanou Tana Danda Hara is said by sage Jaimini for his way of looking at > charts, this is not said by Parashara, Parashara has always called 11'th > house a Labha Sthan, After the Parashara, Kalidasa has given extended list > of significations for all 12 houses, he also calls 11'th house as Labha > Sthal. > > > Opposit to Labha (Profit) theres is Loss, therefore, loss in enterprise > could be understood from 11'th house. > > Sarvarth Chintamani and Jatak Tatwa says if 11'th house makes a connection > with 6'th house or lord, native is attacked by thieves, bullies and > miscreants, If you look at Indira Gandhi's chart, You can get a working > example, 11'th lord Venus is in 6'th house and she was theivishly attacked > by her body gaurds. > > I w'd suggest everybody reading Kalidasa's Uttar Kalamrita for developing > ability to understand a house by the significations of that house, Bhavat > Bhavam is a kind of mnemonic which helps but if overstretched misleads. > > We should not intermix the dictums of Jaimini with Parashara. > > regards, > Lalit Mishra > > > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma wrote: > > > > > > > Namaste every one on this thread, > > That Jaimini principle(Tanou Tana Dand hara) and also if you look 11th > > house is opposite to 5th house. 12th house sustains the 11th house. ( The > > severity of punishment is determined by 12th house - Like imprisonment. Also > > if you see the gains made by 11th house depends on the expenses denoted by > > 12th house). > > Again see tat 11th is 2nd to Karma bhava which means you also add this > > Janma's karma(What you do in society) to be judged by 11th house - meaning > > rewarded or punished largely in terms of money in materialistic world. > > > > > > Those were my thoughts, and I found some interesting approach by Lalitji in > > analysis of an horoscope as mostly people look for remedies rather than > > root cause. Every one has to enjoy/suffer the consequences of past Karma. > > > > Lalitji why don't you share some of your knowledge for the benefit of the > > List. > > > > Thanks > > Lakshman > > --- On *Sat, 4/10/10, Rajat Kapoor <rajat_kapoor* wrote: > > > > > > Rajat Kapoor <rajat_kapoor > > > > Re: 06 - Re: [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunction > > sohamsa > > Saturday, April 10, 2010, 1:20 PM > > > > | Approve sender <https://www.boxbe.com/anno?tc=2291526207_1722783198> | Approve > > domain <https://www.boxbe.com/anno?tc=2291526207_1722783198 & dom> | [image: > > Boxbe] <https://www.boxbe.com/overview> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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