06 - [SoHamsa] Saturn and Ketu conjunction

April 11, 2010

Rajat,

To explain life there are two systems in vedic astrology - 1.

Parashara's System 2. Jaimini's System

Sage Jaimini proposed different comutation permutation for houses to

understand nativity than that of Sage Parashara, problem becomes for

Jyotishi when he overrlaps both the approaches.

" Tanah Tanou Danda Hara " is said Jaimini not by Parashara, use this

dictum while using Jaimini, Jaimini is pada based therefore this dictum

has an application over there.

Parashara calles 11'th house as Labha Sthana same is further explained

in depth by Kalidasa.

Hope it helps.

Lalit Mishra.

sohamsa , Rajat Kapoor <rajat_kapoor wrote:

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> Om namo bhagvate hrishikesaya

> Hare Rama Krishna

> Dear Lalit,

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> There is principle " Tanou Tana Danda Hara " . As per this the 6th house

from the 6th house, which is 11th house is about punishment and this is

the house where Hara sits.

> 8th house is Nij Dosha not punishment.

> Rgds

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> Rajat Kapoor

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> Re: 06 - Re: [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunction

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> Hello,

>

> As I understand every house of horoscope reflects our karma and

> lakschhya (target or misson) of life.

>

> Nakshatras and Navamsa are keys.

>

> 11th house is house of kama or fulfillment of desires or ambitions,

> 8th and 12th house should be assessed for jail and arrest if you mean

> 'punishment' is that.

>

> Thanks,

> Lalit Mishra.

>

> On 4/9/10, Lakshman Brahma lbrahma > wrote:

> > Mishraji, Namaste.

> > Interesting point. How do you read Karma? Is it from 7th house or

from hous

> > where Sa is posted?

> > another theory is 5th house denotes poorva punya, and 11th house is

house of

> > punishment.

> >

> > My knowledge is limited and would be glad if you can throw some

light.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Lakshman

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April 11, 2010

Hello Everybody,

I had replied to queries asked in the thread but seems my post is missing,

Pls consider there are two systems in Vedic Astrology - 1. Parashara 2. Jaimini, In order to explain life, Jaimini used different computation and permutation of house then that of Parashara.

Parashara is based on Lagna and Bhava whereas Jaimini is based on Pada.

Tanou Tana Danda Hara is said by sage Jaimini for his way of looking at charts, this is not said by Parashara, Parashara has always called 11'th house a Labha Sthan, After the Parashara, Kalidasa has given extended list of significations for all 12 houses, he also calls 11'th house as Labha Sthal.

Opposit to Labha (Profit) theres is Loss, therefore, loss in enterprise could be understood from 11'th house.

Sarvarth Chintamani and Jatak Tatwa says if 11'th house makes a connection with 6'th house or lord, native is attacked by thieves, bullies and miscreants, If you look at Indira Gandhi's chart, You can get a working example, 11'th lord Venus is in 6'th house and she was theivishly attacked by her body gaurds.

I w'd suggest everybody reading Kalidasa's Uttar Kalamrita for developing ability to understand a house by the significations of that house, Bhavat Bhavam is a kind of mnemonic which helps but if overstretched misleads.

We should not intermix the dictums of Jaimini with Parashara.

regards,Lalit Mishra

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma wrote:

Namaste every one on this thread,That Jaimini principle(Tanou Tana Dand hara) and also if you look 11th house is opposite to 5th house. 12th house sustains the 11th house. ( The severity of punishment is determined by 12th house - Like imprisonment. Also if you see the gains made by 11th house depends on the expenses denoted by 12th house).

Again see tat 11th is 2nd to Karma bhava which means you also add this Janma's karma(What you do in society) to be judged by 11th house - meaning rewarded or punished largely in terms of money in materialistic world.

Those were my thoughts, and I found some interesting approach by Lalitji in analysis of an horoscope as mostly people look for remedies rather than root cause. Every one has to enjoy/suffer the consequences of past Karma.

Lalitji why don't you share some of your knowledge for the benefit of the List.ThanksLakshman--- On Sat, 4/10/10, Rajat Kapoor <rajat_kapoor wrote:

Rajat Kapoor <rajat_kapoor Re: 06 - Re: [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunctionsohamsa Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 1:20 PM

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Om Gurave NamahDear Lalit, namasteIf pada calculation and interpretation is included only in "Jaimini system", which is "completely different" from "Parashara system", then why is chapter 31 Bhava Padas and chapter 32 Upa Padas included in BPHS (Vol.1 pg 419-439)? Check Sanskrit on these pages, you will find word "pada" many times in those verses.Warm regards,Maja Å trbac--- On Sun, 4/11/10, Lalit Mishra <mishra.lalit wrote:Lalit Mishra <mishra.lalitRe: 06 - Re: [soHamsa] Re: Saturn and Ketu conjunctionsohamsa Cc: lbrahmaDate: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 8:30 AM