saptarishi astrology's invitation for Iranganti Rangacharya's interview

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Dear Vrajleela,

 

Your suggestions are good. But if you had listed only your suggestions than

offending a system or guru, it would be more welcomed amongst peers.There is no

need to criticize others hardwork when you want to make audience to hear your

voice.

 

Hope you can follow it in future.

 

Regards,

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vedic astrology , " vrajleela " <vrajleela wrote:

>

> Dear Members

>

> This is my reply to " invitation for questions to be raised to Iranganti

Rangacharya on Jaimini Astrology " by Saptarishi Astrology - e magazine

> This invitation is send to my mail and as the subject is of open in nature, i

am reproducing my reply for information sake for the benefit of all sincere

readers

>

>

> -----------mail from Saptarishi Astrology--------

>

> Dear Friends

>

> Greetings

>

>

>

> Recently Shri Iranganti Rangacharya one of the foremost & oldest authorities

of Classical Jaimini Astrology was requested for an technical lengthy interview

on Jaimini astrology. He has agreed to do this even at this ripe old age of 83.

In order to make this a memorial that would be practically useful for the future

we request students and scholars of Jaimini to post questions that he would be

asked and published in Saptarishis Astrology. Some points below

>

>

>

> 1. Questions can be basic or very technical. (without quoting shlokas)

>

> 2. Questions invited would be most welcome if readers can send in

questions with shloka number/chapter number. This can ensure easy response from

him

>

> 3. Readers should send in their full name and address within the body of

the mail at the end of the mail

>

> 4. If they do not want their names to appear (for whatever reasons) in

the interview, they can indicate so.

>

> 5. Kindly send the questions to admin with subject heading e.g.

`Questions for Sri Iranganti Rangacharya: From Jean Claude � Paris'

>

> 6. You are requested to ensure that your query is properly and

respectfully worded to him.

>

>

>

> Today in Andhra Pradesh, a land where Jaimini Astrology has been a great

fascination only 3 astrologers are alive known to us who have worked very hard

for 50 years in Jaimini and are of the age of 65, 83 and 80. Only these 3 have

the maximum commentaries so far known to us and not available outside in our

limited experience. (if anyone knows more such scholars having worked on minimum

5 commentaries pls write to us). Once they are gone the classical various

commentary based knowledge of Jaimini Astrology will once again have to

resurrected which would mean spending another 50 years experience in it. Hence

scholars are requested to pls ask as many questions as possible without

bothering about ones image for the sake of extracting of Jaimini astrology

pearls. This email can be passed on to the organisations you represent so that

someone somewhere might ask a fantastic question and something new or clearer

can come out.

>

>

>

> Many thanks for your time.

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

>

> Saptarishis Astrology

>

> The Free Digital Global Astro Magazine

>

> ----------end of Saptarishi Astrology invitation----

>

> ----------- My reply starts from here onwards ------

>

>

> To whomsoever it may concern

>

> Mr/Mrs

> I am neither your friend nor foe, so do not address with words like

> " Friends " etc

>

> You have misread the whole " FACT "

>

> In a Vikram aur Bethal story, it is Bethal who " tells " the story and " asks "

>

> So IRC is Bethal who told a beautiful, fancy and mental speculative

> story called " Jaimini Sutramritam " with no minimum courtesy of

> acknowledgment for his source material, persons who lend them to him.

> So it becomes " his " (not ours) duty to ask " questions " (to himself)

> like:

>

> 1) If Jaimini is superior to other schools, What stopped, great

> Acharyas like Varahamihira, Kalyanavarma etc of Garga school, to not

> mention it in their great works

>

> 2) If one aspires to study Jyotish, he should be thorough with all

> three branches i.e., Siddhanta, Hora and Samhita which are resolved

> completely by Varahamihira during golden age, but we do not find such

> completed works of either Jaimini and Parasara. Moreover, it is

> clearly stated by Varahamihira in Brihatjataka 1ch 2 sloka that he

> tried his best to resolve the lost or ruined " Tantra " , if so, why

> Jaimini is not being mentioned by him or listed among 18 rishis who

> taught this sastra, Is it not existing during his time, if so, can IRC

> mention any small verse from works of Varahamihira. Again, if Kalidas

> a contemporary of Varahamihira can mention Arudha concept in his

> Uttarakalamrita why not Varahamihira?

>

> 3) Why not he or his contemporaries practice the best solved school

> i.e., Varahimihira through the mathematical methods preached by

> Keshava and Sripati who themselves have again resolved completely all

> three branches through their works like " Siddhanta Sekhara " , " Jataka

> Karma Paddhati " and " Jyotisha Ratnamala " etc, because it is very

> difficult or complicated to implement? (This question is applicable to

> you and your readers)

>

> 4) If some foreign authority or a serious thinker asks us regarding

> study of this science with archaeological evident material we only

> have with us that of Varahamihira works complete on three branches but

> not for other schools. So it becomes first priority for a student to

> take this school seriously, master it and then look for other which

> are not completely available

>

> 5) if he is to be treated as living authority on Jaimini, he should

> first practice for atleast 10yrs in Varahamihira, train students,

> which is not evident either in his works or list of students etc

>

> 6) As Jyotish is based on Karma Siddhanta, can it be proved on Jaimini lines?

>

> 7) When Jaimini says that we have to apply " Katapaya " but not Bhuta

> sajna, why it is that the later is called for in Sutra 2-4-27 Tara

> Arka amsa .... Because it is commented by Neelankantha whom IRC mostly

> disagree?

>

> 8) Can he explain the reasons for basic principles on which Jaimini

> School stands? For example, the dasa krama for movable fixed and dual

> - 1,6 and 4 as per sutras 2-4-8,9,10

>

> 9) If he is authority why he is not reacting to frequent objections

> raised by Hetuvada Sangha in Hyderabad about validity of Jyotish

> Sastra

>

> 10) With my interaction with one of his (IRC) students who claims that

> he can sort out male and female from a bunch of at least 100 birth

> charts within 5 minutes, and also he can identify married couples out

> of 100 given pair of horoscopes very efficiently - Is this true? Of

> course this student denies the chara karaka theory proposed by his

> guru himself

>

> These are only some: I have read thoroughly his work " Jaimini

> Sutramritam " but not felt slightest grace of Jaimini " through it " - If

> someone like you still feel " Shri Iranganti Rangacharya one of the

> foremost & oldest authorities of Classical Jaimini Astrology " then let

> him give " AN EXHAUSTIVE EXPLANATION ON FIRST 3 SUTRAS " - I PROMISE

> THAT I WILL GIVE EXTRAORDINARY EXPLANATION TO THE SAME

>

> You have failed to mention:

> 1) names of 3 persons dedicated to Jaimini

> 2)your designation etc

>

> To conclude, I have no intention of giving trouble to elder or aged

> persons, but if they have much enthusiasm to get their name popular by

> mean methods (before they die) to stand besides Jaimini Maharshi,

> Varahamihira acharya and other great thinkers it is not healthy for

> our " sanatana dharma " and I strongly recommend you and your readers to

> first take seriously the most completed schools like Varahamihira and

> start working on them on these lines to prove this great science:

>

> 1) Collecting at least 2,00,000 births from different locations

> pertaining to 4 main directions through hospitals

> 2) Evaluate them on basis of sex, weight, nature of delivery,

> direction of delivery room, complexion of child, geographical location

> of birth like plain, plateau, hill, valley, river, forest etc

> 3) Evaluate infant deaths

> 4) Evaluate unnatural deaths for at least 1000 births

> 5) Find the appropriate ayanamsa that explains the above

> This is very basic research work for every student

>

> Please do not mix up hallucinogenic ideas like Narayana dasa etc proposed by

pseudo astrologers like Rath, Rao etc with those of charakaraka and darpana

ideas of IRC calibre.

>

> This whole chaos and confusion is due to Chitra Vichitra nature of Ketu whose

gotra is Jaimini - so it is only due to grace of swayam Jamini who has peculiar

habit of selecting his own disciples

>

> Jai Jaimini

> Jai Varahamihira

> Jairadhe

>

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Dear Members

As the subject matter is of open in nature, I am reproducing my response to

Saptarishi Astrology's request send to me personally

 

---------Mail of Saptarishi Astrology----

Dear Friends

 

Greetings

 

 

 

Recently Shri Iranganti Rangacharya one of the foremost & oldest authorities of

Classical Jaimini Astrology was requested for an technical lengthy interview on

Jaimini astrology. He has agreed to do this even at this ripe old age of 83. In

order to make this a memorial that would be practically useful for the future we

request students and scholars of Jaimini to post questions that he would be

asked and published in Saptarishis Astrology. Some points below

 

 

 

1. Questions can be basic or very technical. (without quoting shlokas)

 

2. Questions invited would be most welcome if readers can send in

questions with shloka number/chapter number. This can ensure easy response from

him

 

3. Readers should send in their full name and address within the body of

the mail at the end of the mail

 

4. If they do not want their names to appear (for whatever reasons) in the

interview, they can indicate so.

 

5. Kindly send the questions to admin with subject

heading e.g. `Questions for Sri Iranganti Rangacharya: From Jean Claude – Paris'

 

6. You are requested to ensure that your query is properly and respectfully

worded to him.

 

 

 

Today in Andhra Pradesh, a land where Jaimini Astrology has been a great

fascination only 3 astrologers are alive known to us who have worked very hard

for 50 years in Jaimini and are of the age of 65, 83 and 80. Only these 3 have

the maximum commentaries so far known to us and not available outside in our

limited experience. (if anyone knows more such scholars having worked on minimum

5 commentaries pls write to us). Once they are gone the classical various

commentary based knowledge of Jaimini Astrology will once again have to

resurrected which would mean spending another 50 years experience in it. Hence

scholars are requested to pls ask as many questions as possible without

bothering about ones image for the sake of extracting of Jaimini astrology

pearls. This email can be passed on to the organisations you represent so that

someone somewhere might ask a fantastic question and something new or clearer

can come out.

 

 

 

Many thanks for your time.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

 

Saptarishis Astrology

 

The Free Digital Global Astro Magazine

 

As Read In 96 Countries

 

www.saptarishisastrology.com

---------My response---------

 

To whomsoever it may concern

 

Mr/Mrs

I am neither your friend nor foe, so do not address with words like

" Friends " etc

 

You have misread the whole " FACT "

 

In a Vikram aur Bethal story, it is Bethal who " tells " the story and " asks "

 

So IRC is Bethal who told a beautiful, fancy and mental speculative

story called " Jaimini Sutramritam " with no minimum courtesy of

acknowledgment for his source material, persons who lend them to him.

So it becomes " his " (not ours) duty to ask " questions " (to himself)

like:

 

1) If Jaimini is superior to other schools, What stopped, great

Acharyas like Varahamihira, Kalyanavarma etc of Garga school, to not

mention it in their great works

 

2) If one aspires to study Jyotish, he should be thorough with all

three branches i.e., Siddhanta, Hora and Samhita which are resolved

completely by Varahamihira during golden age, but we do not find such

completed works of either Jaimini and Parasara. Moreover, it is

clearly stated by Varahamihira in Brihatjataka 1ch 2 sloka that he

tried his best to resolve the lost or ruined " Tantra " , if so, why

Jaimini is not being mentioned by him or listed among 18 rishis who

taught this sastra, Is it not existing during his time, if so, can IRC

mention any small verse from works of Varahamihira. Again, if Kalidas

a contemporary of Varahamihira can mention Arudha concept in his

Uttarakalamrita why not Varahamihira?

 

3) Why not he or his contemporaries practice the best solved school

i.e., Varahimihira through the mathematical methods preached by

Keshava and Sripati who themselves have again resolved completely all

three branches through their works like " Siddhanta Sekhara " , " Jataka

Karma Paddhati " and " Jyotisha Ratnamala " etc, because it is very

difficult or complicated to implement? (This question is applicable to

you and your readers)

 

4) If some foreign authority or a serious thinker asks us regarding

study of this science with archaeological evident material we only

have with us that of Varahamihira works complete on three branches but

not for other schools. So it becomes first priority for a student to

take this school seriously, master it and then look for other which

are not completely available

 

5) if he is to be treated as living authority on Jaimini, he should

first practice for atleast 10yrs in Varahamihira, train students,

which is not evident either in his works or list of students etc

 

6) As Jyotish is based on Karma Siddhanta, can it be proved on Jaimini lines?

 

7) When Jaimini says that we have to apply " Katapaya " but not Bhuta

sajna, why it is that the later is called for in Sutra 2-4-27 Tara

Arka amsa .... Because it is commented by Neelankantha whom IRC mostly

disagree?

 

8) Can he explain the reasons for basic principles on which Jaimini

School stands? For example, the dasa krama for movable fixed and dual

- 1,6 and 4 as per sutras 2-4-8,9,10

 

9) If he is authority why he is not reacting to frequent objections

raised by Hetuvada Sangha in Hyderabad about validity of Jyotish

Sastra

 

10) With my interaction with one of his (IRC) students who claims that

he can sort out male and female from a bunch of at least 100 birth

charts within 5 minutes, and also he can identify married couples out

of 100 given pair of horoscopes very efficiently - Is this true? Of

course this student denies the chara karaka theory proposed by his

guru himself

 

These are only some: I have read thoroughly his work " Jaimini

Sutramritam " but not felt slightest grace of Jaimini " through it " - If

someone like you still feel " Shri Iranganti Rangacharya one of the

foremost & oldest authorities of Classical Jaimini Astrology " then let

him give " AN EXHAUSTIVE EXPLANATION ON FIRST 3 SUTRAS " - I PROMISE

THAT I WILL GIVE EXTRAORDINARY EXPLANATION TO THE SAME

 

You have failed to mention:

1) names of 3 persons dedicated to Jaimini

2)your designation etc

 

To conclude, I have no intention of giving trouble to elder or aged

persons, but if they have much enthusiasm to get their name popular by

mean methods (before they die) to stand besides Jaimini Maharshi,

Varahamihira acharya and other great thinkers it is not healthy for

our " sanatana dharma " and I strongly recommend you and your readers to

first take seriously the most completed schools like Varahamihira and

start working on them on these lines to prove this great science:

 

1) Collecting at least 2,00,000 births from different locations

pertaining to 4 main directions through hospitals

2) Evaluate them on basis of sex, weight, nature of delivery,

direction of delivery room, complexion of child, geographical location

of birth like plain, plateau, hill, valley, river, forest etc

3) Evaluate infant deaths

4) Evaluate unnatural deaths for at least 1000 births

5) Find the appropriate ayanamsa that explains the above

This is very basic research work for every student

 

Please keep in mind, i am also fully aware of other pseudo Jaimini

followers like Rath, Rao etc who are far below IRC cadre, but also

there are others above IRC

 

Jai Jaimini

Jai Varahamihira

Jairadhe

---------- End of Reply NO 1----

 

Reply 2:

Mr/Mrs admin Saptarishi Astrology

I have some thing more important to say regarding IRC's work Jaimini

Sutramritam which I missed in my previous mail

 

1) It contains

a) NO one authoritative commentary like Neelakantha or Venkateshwara's

b) NO reproduction of mms and details like oriental library catalog number etc

c) NO acknowledgment

d) NO bibliography

e) NO illustrative examples

f) NO complete vriddha karikas

g) NO index

 

2) It contains extra sutras with no references or source material,

 

3) Worse, where the words within sutra are very important in their

order of occurence, It contains irregular order of sutras

 

4) It costs Rs 150/- in 1990s

 

He do not mentions any reference to

1) Sri Madura Krishnamurty Sastry

2) Sri P S Sastri

3) Sri Koil Kandadai Annan Kumar Venkatacharya of Warangal in whose

house Mr IRC was a tenant - he is main person who provided Mr IRC the

material

4) Sri Vemuri Ramamurthy - the pioneer vedic scholar without whom the

present day interest in Jaimini could not be possible

 

This is sufficient to show what is the standard of his work and the

award given by you, with sending a mail within a short duration of

time

It is very pity that people or organizations are popping up with a

motto of " SCRATCH MY BACK AND I SCRATCH YOURS "

 

I am not interested in your reply as your actions are itself evident -

until there is something EXTRAORDINARY

Let there be light for the true seeker

 

Jai Varahamihira

Jai Jaimini

Jai Radhe

 

-----end of reply 2---

suggestion 1: For beginners, this subject is to be avoided

suggestion 2: For professionals, please contact me to the

id:join_veda for any further information

[Guest guest]

ॠनमः शिवाय

 

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

 

 

 

My reply to Mr Leela's mail which actually does not deserve a reply

for the simple reason that it exhibited mannerisms not conducive for

honest discussion. My reply is in Red and the sanskrit slokas are in

Black.

 

 

 

----------- My reply starts from here onwards ------

 

 

To whomsoever it may concern,

 

 

 

Mr/Mrs

I am neither your friend nor foe, so do not address with words like

" Friends " etc.

 

 

 

Ours is a tradition from which Saint Vivekananda rose, addressing the

Americans " Brothers and Sisters " . I don't know from which

tradition he is who can't address anyone as a friend. If someone

addressed you or others as Friends, is it such a big crime, did you lose

some money or a night's sleep ? A reply like that from anyone over

someone addressing someone as Friends only exhibits a Gandhian reply

`Get Well Soon'.

 

 

You have misread the whole " FACT "

 

 

In a Vikram aur Bethal story, it is Bethal who " tells " the story and

" asks " So IRC is Bethal who told a beautiful, fancy and mental

speculative story called " Jaimini Sutramritam " with no minimum courtesy

of acknowledgment for his source material, persons who lend them to him.

 

 

 

Probably most of the readers are not aware of Vikram aur Bhetal story.

The legend is like the following. The King Vikram was asked by a Mantrik

to bring the corpse lying in a graveyard. He warns the King not to speak

while he brings in the corpse and the moment he fails to keep silent,

the corpse will return to graveyard. There lives a Bhetal (A Spirit) in

the corpse. When King went to the graveyard to bring the corpse, Bhetal

warns the King about the ill plans of the Mantrik. Yet, since the King

Vikram promised the Mantrik, he tries to carry the corpse. Then, Bhetal

tells the King Vikramarka a story embedded with a puzzle and asks the

king to unfold it. Bhetal also warns if the King doesn't answer the

puzzle even though he knows the answer, the King's head will be cut

in 1000 pieces. As the King Vikram is intelligent and smart, he would

answer the puzzle, but since the King would speak the corpse will return

to the graveyard. Like this there will be many attempts by the King and

many puzzles by the Bhetal.

 

 

 

I don't understand why Mr. Leela links this story with Sri

Rangacharya. Why he calls " Jaimini Sutramritam " as a mental

speculation. It looks he read this work with pre-occupied notions. If we

read the preface of the book, we understand what are the Jaimini

commentaries he referred in commenting Jaimini Sutras. Jaimini

Sutramritam is not at all a speculative work, but an honest attempt by a

scholar to bring in the essence of the Jaimini School in a nutshell with

his meticulous study of ancient works on this science. His main motto in

commenting the work is not to contradict and coin fancy theories, but

understanding the commentaries and prove their veracity.

 

 

 

He humbly admits that he has not furthered the Jaimini system, but tried

to understand and preserve the system. He always admits that not even

50% of work is done unfolding this system and calls upon the young

Astrologers to do that needful work. Remember, this is a message from

Sri Rangacharya, now aged 83, who has spent 5o years in Jaimini.

 

 

 

It is true that his commentary doesn't contain examples on Dasa

systems. For the precise purpose, he has written more than 50 articles

on Jaimini system in various Astrological journals. If he had included

them in his " Jaimini Sutramritam " , the book would have been more

than a 1000 pages, which a simple Head Master of a Govt. School in a

small town called Hanamkonda in Andhra Pradesh couldn't afford to

publish. The students of this Jaimini System definitely would be

indebted to this man for his work and history will prove this.

 

 

 

Coming to the source material, Sri Rangacharya clearly explained the

works he referred in the preface of his work. He mentioned many of the

references in the Sanskrit commentary. I challenge that his commentary

is the foremost one, in giving most of the references from Vriddha

Karikas, ancient commentaries. Let somebody prove me wrong. If someone

pays money for transcribing a work, Is it necessary to acknowledge? If

he acknowledges, it would be good. We can't judge a person for a

simple lapse like this. Does Mr. Leela know that the person who lend the

manuscripts to him took money for that? We never know for sure what went

in between, then why to make such foolish statements.

 

 

 

 

So it becomes " his " (not ours) duty to ask " questions " (to himself)

like:

 

 

1) If Jaimini is superior to other schools, What stopped, great Acharyas

like Varahamihira, Kalyanavarma etc of Garga school, to not mention it

in their great works.

 

 

 

The same question can be asked like " What stopped Varahamihira,

Kalyana Varma not to mention Vimsottari Dasa? " . Mr. Leela brands

Varahamihira and Kalyanavarma of Garga School. The Science needs to be

researched and modified according to the age like a flowing river. If

the river becomes a still pond, then it will be contaminated. Like this,

in the pages of history, one particular system will flourish at a

certain point of time, it then gets lost in time and then gets restored

to the previous glory again. We never know why they didn't mention

Sage Jaimini, Sage Parasara etc.

 

 

 

Sri Rangacharya never opined Jaimini System is superior to the other

systems. He always admits that knowledge of Parasara system is essential

in understanding Jaimini Astrology. This is often warned by him not to

ignore Parasara system, since Jaimini System doesn't contain

delineations of all spheres of the life. Yet, He explains the points

addressed by Sage Jaimini in his sutras are superb in finding practical

applicability.

 

 

2) If one aspires to study Jyotish, he should be thorough with all three

branches i.e., Siddhanta, Hora and Samhita which are resolved completely

by Varahamihira during golden age, but we do not find such

completed works of either Jaimini and Parasara. Moreover, it is clearly

stated by Varahamihira in Brihatjataka 1ch 2 sloka that he tried his

best to resolve the lost or ruined " Tantra " , if so, why Jaimini is not

being mentioned by him or listed among 18 rishis who taught this sastra,

Is it not existing during his time, if so, can IRC mention any small

verse from works of Varahamihira. Again, if Kalidas a contemporary of

Varahamihira can mention Arudha concept in his Uttarakalamrita why not

Varahamihira?

 

 

 

As explained above, we never know Why Varahamihira never talked about

Sage Parasara or Sage Jaimini. Well, Can Mr. Leela explain, why Varaha

didn't acknowledge? Does he mean that at the time of Varahamihira,

these systems were not existing.

 

 

 

It was mentioned by the savants of this system like Somanatha, Krishna

Mishra that this science is a Secret System. They were well aware of

Brihat Jataka and they clearly dismissed the Hora, Drekkana, Amsa chart

calculations advocated by Varahamihira. They mentioned a different

reckoning of Drekkana, Hora and Amsa charts for the usage in Jaimini

System. They also mentioned Vriddha Karikas in their works. That means

the Vriddha Karikas are ancient even to the time of Somanatha. Krishna

Mishra, the father of Somanatha, claims in his Jyotisha Phalaratnamala

that he was living in the court of King Vikramarka. The exact verse

reads as follows.

 

शà¥à¤°à¥€à¤µà¤¿à¤•à¥à¤°à¤®à¤¾à¤°à¥à¤•à¥Œ

जगतीतलेऽसà¥à¤®à¤¿à¤¨à¥

जीयानॠमनà¥à¤ªà¥à¤°à¤–à¥à¤¯à¤¯à¤¶à¤¾

नरेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤ƒà¥¤

 

úrîvikramârkau jagatîtale'smin jîyân

manuprakhyayaúâ narendraḥ |

 

So, it needs to be searched by the savants of this system about the

living time of Krishna Mishra and the King Vikramarka of the lineage of

Manu. Then, we will get to know approximately how ancient this system

was. As Somanatha mentioned Brihat Jataka, he will be definitely after

Varahamihira time. They followed the commentary by Sage Sarvagna, who

was an expert of this system. Like this we can move further in

understanding the era of these savants. Since it was a secret system as

claimed by Somantha, it is apparent why Sage Jaimini was not mentioned

by Varahamihira. I am giving below the verse snippets form the

Kalpalatha of Somanatha available with us for proof of my explanation.

 

 

 

तथाच लगà¥à¤¨à¤¤à¥à¤°à¤¿à¤­à¤¾à¤—ो

दà¥à¤°à¥‡à¤•à¥à¤•à¤£ इति

नà¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤¯à¥‡à¤¨ बृहतà¥

जातकादिषà¥

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दà¥à¤°à¥‡à¤•à¥à¤•à¤¾à¤£à¤¸à¥à¤¯

अनिरूपितà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤¤à¥à¥¤

 

tathâca lagnatribhâgo drekkaṇa iti nyâyena bá¹›hat

jâtakâdiá¹£u prasidhdasya drekkâṇasya

anirûpitvât |

 

 

 

होरातॠपंचधा।

बृहजà¥à¤œà¤¤à¤•à¤¾ पà¥à¤°à¤¸à¤¿à¤§à¥à¤¦à¤¾à¥¤

 

horâtu paá¹cadhâ| bá¹›hajjatakâ prasidhdâ |

 

 

 

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asya arthasya sûtre saá¹proktatvât |

 

rahasya úâstreá¹£u adhigamya vyâkurmaḥ

 

 

 

 

3) Why not he or his contemporaries practice the best solved school

i.e., Varahimihira through the mathematical methods preached by Keshava

and Sripati who themselves have again resolved completely all three

branches through their works like " Siddhanta Sekhara " , " Jataka Karma

Paddhati " and " Jyotisha Ratnamala " etc, because it is very difficult or

complicated to implement? (This question is applicable to you and your

readers)

 

 

 

There are many tools in Astrology. Scholars study them and use whichever

suits him. It is ridiculous to ask questions like this which are grossly

incoherent. I can ask him questions like why can't Mr. Leela

practice works like " Jyotisha Phalaratnamala " , " Jyotisha

Kalpalatha " , " Jataka Sara Sangraha " etc. which are complete

in their exposition of Jaimini system. Does he not use them for they are

complicated and not comprehensive to him? The taste of pudding lies in

eating. Probably this guy seems to have manuscripts like the ones he

mentioned and tires to get mileage out of them. It was also advertised

in the Horoscopes prepared by his VEDA institute that they prepare the

horoscopes according to the works he mentioned in the above para of his

mail.

 

 

 

If Varahamihira completely resolved the Astrology, then what made

Kalyana Varma to write Saravali. What made other authors like

Vaidhyanatha, Mantreswara, Venkateswara etc. to write some more classics

on Astrology?

 

 

4) If some foreign authority or a serious thinker asks us regarding

study of this science with archaeological evident material we only have

with us that of Varahamihira works complete on three branches but not

for other schools. So it becomes first priority for a student to take

this school seriously, master it and then look for other which are not

completely available.

 

 

 

Mr. Leela is most welcome in taking up works like Varahamihira. Indian

history in archaeological and chronological order is matter of another

experts and I don't dwell in to this. Students are free to choose

his branch of interest as Mr. Leela is.

 

 

5) if he is to be treated as living authority on Jaimini, he should

first practice for atleast 10yrs in Varahamihira, train students, which

is not evident either in his works or list of students etc

 

 

 

It is like poking his nose into other. How can this guy ask someone to

study this or that first, he should mind his own business. The normal

tradition is for someone to produce one or two good books of his own and

then one can start opening his or her mouth in advising someone what to

study or what not to practice. Does he mean " Varahamihira is above

Sage Jaimini " ? Or he means that understanding Varahamihira is

essential to understand Sage Jaimini. Whichever be his opinion let him

bring out his books, researches on Brihat Jataka and Jaimini Sutras and

let the people verify them. That's what a sincere scholar needs to

do, when one wants to propagate his ideas on any science. As already

expressed his books will speak about his scholarship not his words and

even if one's books are better than others, it is considered

extremely rude to tell people what to practice especially not to a man

who is in his 80s.

 

 

6) As Jyotish is based on Karma Siddhanta, can it be proved on Jaimini

lines?

 

 

 

He is going miles away at a faster speed. I request him to prove the

above in Jaimini or Varahamihira etc.

 

शà¥à¤°à¥€ गà¥à¤°à¥à¤­à¥à¤¯à¥‹ नमः

 

 

7) When Jaimini says that we have to apply " Katapaya " but not Bhuta

sajna, why it is that the later is called for in Sutra 2-4-27 Tara Arka

amsa .... Because it is commented by Neelankantha whom IRC mostly

disagree?

 

 

 

The sutra mentioned by Mr. Leela reads as follows.

 

तारारà¥à¤•à¤¾à¤‚शे

मनà¥à¤¦à¤¾à¤¦à¥à¤¯à¥‹ दशेशः

२-४-२७

 

târârkâá¹úe mandâdyo daúeúaḥ 2-4-27

 

 

 

Mr. Leela was probably unaware that the explanation given by Sri

Rangacharya was not only endorsed by Neelakantha, but also by Somantha,

Raghava Bhatta etc. This shows his ignorance of Jaimini works. Sage

mentioned that he denotes bhavas, signs in Katapayadi pneumonic and not

the planets vide the following sutras.

 

सरà¥à¤µà¤¤à¥à¤° सवरà¥à¤£à¤­à¤¾à¤µà¤¾

राशयशà¥à¤š १-१-३२

 

sarvatra savarṇabhâvâ râúayaúca 1-1-32

 

Translation : The signs and bhavas are discernible by the katapaya

pneumonic values.

 

न गà¥à¤°à¤¹à¤¾à¤ƒ १-२-३३

 

na grahâḥ 1-2-33

 

Translation : The planets are not represented in katapayadi pnemonic.

 

 

 

So, it is clear that only signs and houses needs to be understood using

Katapayadi system. Hence the words तार, अरà¥à¤•à¤¾,

अंश needs to be interpreted using normal meanings. That's

probably the precise reason why all savants of this system interpreted

this sutra in calculating Tara Lagna. That is dividing the duration of

Moon Nakshtra in to 12 parts and calculating the no. of parts from Lagna

to obtain Tara lagan. Here, the beauty is word मनà¥à¤¦ was

interpreted using katapaya pnemonic yielding Lagna, which is a Bhava.

 

 

 

So, the allegation made by Mr. Leela was baseless, sarcastic and lacks

propriety.

 

 

 

 

8) Can he explain the reasons for basic principles on which Jaimini

School stands? For example, the dasa krama for movable fixed and dual -

1,6 and 4 as per sutras 2-4-8,9,10

 

 

 

He clearly explained them in Jaimini Sutramrtiam (Sanskrit and English

Commentary). Request him study them once again. He has given a Vriddha

Karika as well which clearly explains this concept. Proper study of the

work is necessary before making allegations. This type of false

allegation can only be expected from a person of Mr. Leela's caliber

who has had a history of joining forums, showing his rude nature at the

drop of a hat, fighting with everyone and so on.

 

 

9) If he is authority why he is not reacting to frequent objections

raised by Hetuvada Sangha in Hyderabad about validity of Jyotish Sastra.

 

 

 

I request Mr. Leela to respond to these frequent objections by Hetuvada

Sangha in Hyderabad because he runs a VEDA institute that claims to

propagate Astrology. Probably he may win those one crore prize announced

by them for proving Astrology. If he wants to propagate the science he

can use this One Crore rupees to publish some rare manuscripts or do

whatever he wishes with it.

 

 

10) With my interaction with one of his (IRC) students who claims that

he can sort out male and female from a bunch of at least 100 birth

charts within 5 minutes, and also he can identify married couples out of

100 given pair of horoscopes very efficiently - Is this true? Of course

this student denies the chara karaka theory proposed by his guru

himself.

 

 

 

Since Mr. Leela interacted with the above cited student, Why can't

he check out whether claim made by that student is true or not? Why does

Mr. Leela ask us to whether it is true or not? How stupid can one get by

asking us a question which we never answered in the first place? Sri

Rangacharya in my interaction with him never made such tall claims. He

is so humble, who knows the limitations of the Astrology and its tools.

Guru only guides the student, it up to the student to move it further. I

don't know whom Mr. Leela is referring to, yet if I were correct in

my guess, that claimed knowledge of that student neither useful to him

nor to the students of this system, since he never shared to the public.

At one point of time Mr Leela is demanding the originator of this mail

to name the 3 scholars of Jaimini yet he did not give the name of the

student, does not sound a fair practice.

 

 

 

 

These are only some: I have read thoroughly his work " Jaimini

Sutramritam " but not felt slightest grace of Jaimini " through it " –

If someone like you still feel " Shri Iranganti Rangacharya one of the

foremost & oldest authorities of Classical Jaimini Astrology " then let

him give " AN EXHAUSTIVE EXPLANATION ON FIRST 3 SUTRAS " - I PROMISE THAT

I WILL GIVE EXTRAORDINARY EXPLANATION TO THE SAME

 

 

 

I have proved one of the allegations made by Mr. Leela wrong by quoting

the sutra in the above paragraphs. How long it will take to this guy to

experience the divine nectar that Sage Jaimini poured in his sutras. How

long it will take to this person to reach to the level of Sri Iranganti

Rangacharya who named his commentary " Sutramritam " . I need not

to testify the beauty of this work, it itself speaks of its worth. In

the ocean, people find Gems and corals as well according to their fate.

I found many pearls in " Jaimini Sutramritam " , it looks Mr. Leela

got corals, probably of his fate.

 

 

 

One can appreciate Mr. Leela's extraordinary explanations, either if

he had given them in his mail or published his work before he could

write such a mail. Unfortunately he does neither, yet makes tall claims;

it does not exhibit the attitude of grace towards elders.

 

 

You have failed to mention:

 

1) names of 3 persons dedicated to Jaimini

 

2) your designation etc

 

 

 

Just a simple question. Whether this person (Mr. Leela) signed this

mail, wrote this designation or name etc. I don't find it in the

mail. If he hasn't, then on what grounds, he points out that

admin@SA didn't mention the designation. Our concern here is

Astrology, not the formalities.

 

 

 

To conclude, I have no intention of giving trouble to elder or aged

persons, but if they have much enthusiasm to get their name popular by

mean methods (before they die) to stand besides Jaimini Maharshi,

Varahamihira acharya and other great thinkers it is not healthy for our

" sanatana dharma " and I strongly recommend you and your readers to1

first take seriously the most completed schools like Varahamihira and

start working on them on these lines to prove this great science:

 

 

 

Well, his intentions are very clear. I fear Mr. Leela misunderstood the

intention of the mail by Saptarishis Astrology team. It is not the

intention of Sri Rangacharya to advertise to be equaled to Sage Jaimini

etc. Unfortunately, it looks it was Mr. Leela's intention to become

famous as he wants people to join his website and him. It was the

genuine intention of SA team to give the opportunity to students of

Jaimini system to pose the lingering questions in their minds, hopefully

answered by a savant of this system. Why can't Mr. Leela shoot some

tough questions on Jaimini system as was requested by SA team rather

than writing such repeated foolish mails. I requested the admin@SA to

clarify whether this mail was given with the knowledge of Sri

Rangacharya. Just now I got clarification from Saptarishis Astrology

that Sri Rangacharya does not even know of the existence of this mail

from SA requesting for questions. Mr. Leela speaks of " Sanatana

Dharma " and yet can't understand the meaning of brotherhood

(Vasudhaiva Kutumba), who can't address the person as a friend to

whom he is writing such a mail.

 

 

 

I request the student of Jaimini to ignore these shooters who tries to

procure cheap mileage out of false allegations.

 

 

 

1) Collecting at least 2,00,000 births from different locations

pertaining to 4 main directions through hospitals

 

2) Evaluate them on basis of sex, weight, nature of delivery,

direction of delivery room, complexion of child, geographical location

of birth like plain, plateau, hill, valley, river, forest etc

 

3) Evaluate infant deaths

 

4) Evaluate unnatural deaths for at least 1000 births

 

5) Find the appropriate ayanamsa that explains the above

 

 

 

This is very basic research work for every student

 

 

 

Please have at look at the points above raised by Mr.Leela. Is it

possible for anybody to do such a herculean task? So far, how many

horoscopes that this person writing long claims have collected? In SA

website, there is a section " Akashic Records " devoted to these

activities where they have a no. of categories like " Divorce

Cases " , " Unmarried " etc. If Mr. Leela has collected any such

horoscopes, kindly provide them to the public for their study. If he

hasn't so far or can't provide 200 cases of the above

approximately 10 categories that he has mentioned for the Akashic

Records or any other site then its only akin to barking and not doing

any real work. For years on these many forums many said of collecting

manuscripts, translating them for the good of astrology, yet it is no

one who has done so far, lets first `Do It' then `Talk About

It'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please do not mix up hallucinogenic ideas like Narayana dasa etc

proposed by pseudo astrologers like Rath, Rao etc with those of

charakaraka and darpana ideas of IRC calibre.

 

 

 

 

 

I won't respond to Narayana Dasa etc. Coming to Darpana idea, it is

not Sri Rangacharya's idea. It was Sage Jaimini's idea, which

was explained by Raghava Bhatta in his Jataka Sara Sangraha. One should

study the literature before criticizing someone's work else only his

ignorance will be proved.

 

 

 

 

This whole chaos and confusion is due to Chitra Vichitra nature of Ketu

whose gotra is Jaimini - so it is only due to grace of swayam Jamini who

has peculiar habit of selecting his own disciples.

 

 

 

I hope by this time, readers could understand who is in the state of

hallucinogenic, cynical and depression. It is very true that Sage

Jaimini picks up his students and I am sure the Sage being a spiritual

being would not pick up students who are abusive, trying to gain mileage

by putting others down, who are of the mark from the main subject at

hand.

 

 

 

Somanatha, in the first paragraph of his celebrated commentary

" Kalpalatha " , venerate Sage Jaimini as " Bhagavan

Acharya " . That is their scholarship in acknowledging Sage.

 

 

 

 

 

Jai Jaimini

 

Jai Varahamihira

 

Jairadhe

 

(I do not see your name or designation here Mr Leela or Sagar Or

Madhav).

 

Now, here comes the second mail from Mr. Leela. Probably, he didn't

get the required mileage from his first mail and hence made some more

false allegations. Let me answer them as well. This mail is for sincere

students to provide the information available with me.

 

 

 

Mr/Mrs admin Saptarishi Astrology

 

 

I have some thing more important to say regarding IRC's work Jaimini

Sutramritam which I missed in my previous mail

 

1) It contains

 

 

a) NO one authoritative commentary like Neelakantha or Venkateshwara's

 

 

 

Unfortunately, Mr.Leela knows only the above two commentaries. Sri

Rangacharya wrote an independent commentary on Jaimini Sutras based on

his study of various available works, not translated the commentaries of

Nilakantha or Venkatatesa. This simple concept is not understood by Mr.

Leela, let alone Jaimini System. As indicated earlier, Sri Rangacharya

consulted many commentaries, and his preface speaks of them.

 

 

 

b) NO reproduction of mms and details like oriental library catalog

number etc

 

 

 

Not at all required to mention the MSS and Oriental Catalog No, when

they are readily available with him in manuscript from and some in Book

form. Sri Rangacharya explained when Jataka Sara Sangraha was printed.

He is the fortunate one have had the printed copy of " Jataka Sara

Sangraha " apart from Sri P. Siva Kumar of Pidaparthi lineage.

 

 

c) NO acknowledgment

 

 

 

What acknowledgement he needs to do.

 

 

d) NO bibliography

 

 

 

Doesn't merit any answer.

 

 

 

e) NO illustrative examples

 

 

 

For the precise purpose, he wrote many articles in Astrological

magazine. In the function held in Hyderabad, we distributed the free CD

containing more than 50 articles of his published articles in various

magazines. Still, lots more are pending with SA for typing etc. works.

 

 

f) NO complete vriddha karikas

 

 

 

Sheer ignorance. It is the commentary that contains the most of the

Vriddha Karikas. Scholars like Sri Sanjay Rath praise Sri Rangacharya as

the authority on Vriddha Karikas and he highly recommends Sri

Rangacharya's work. Readers can check archives of Sohamsa during the

later part of 2008. Readers can check many issues of AM and speeches of

Dr. Raman where he praises Sri Rangacharya regarding his studies in

Jaimini. Sri Rangacharya was one of the first directors of Telugu

University Astrology courses, recommended by Dr. B.V.Raman to Mr.

N.T.Rama Rao, then Chief Minister.

 

 

g) NO index

 

 

 

Basically, it is a Sanskrit commentary, for which he added English

translation for the benefit of readers. This type of works doesn't

fit in modern style of book writing. He also advised in one of his books

in English to study Sanskrit commentary of his to understand the

Jaimini. It is unfortunate that M/s Sagar Publications removed the

Sanskrit part while publishing " Jaimini Sutramritam " .

 

 

 

2) It contains extra sutras with no references or source material,

 

 

 

If Mr. Leela showed those extra sutras it would have been

constructive criticism. Readers can understand the mood of this person.

 

3) Worse, where the words within sutra are very important in their order

of occurence, It contains irregular order of sutras

 

 

 

What to comment on this unless he shows what exactly he wants

to convey. Let him prove the explanations / Commentary given by Sri

Rangacharya wrong either in context wise or Grammar wise etc. If Mr.

Leela can't do it, please keep quiet and don't waste time of

others by mailing such false allegations.

 

 

4) It costs Rs 150/- in 1990s

 

 

 

It is true. If people finds the book worth spending Rs.150/-, then they

will buy. What bothers this person? Nobody is pointing a gun at a

customer and forcing him to buy. I know people have photocopied Jaimini

Sutramritam for the copies were not available and sold it at much higher

cost but the price of a book does not show the worth of its contents,

this any kid in astrology knows so why comment on it.

 

 

 

He do not mentions any reference to

 

1) Sri Madura Krishnamurty Sastry

2) Sri P S Sastri

3) Sri Koil Kandadai Annan Kumar Venkatacharya of Warangal in whose

house Mr IRC was a tenant - he is main person who provided Mr IRC the

material.

 

4) Sri Vemuri Ramamurthy - the pioneer vedic scholar without whom the

present day interest in Jaimini could not be possible.

 

 

 

Why does he need to mention their references? Did any person referred

above; make a reference to Sri Rangacharya in their books? They are all

peers to him when he was active in Astrology and Sri Rangacharya is in

no way inferior to them, of course if not superior.

 

 

 

Coming to Sri Koil Kandadai, yes it was true that Sri Rangacharya was

tenant in their house. Does this mean, he has to acknowledge them? I

don't know much of Sri Venkatacharya, yet the story I learnt was

different and since it doesn't fetch anything to Astrology, I

don't want to narrate it here. I can simply say there will always be

two sides for a story. One needs to learn both to judge. It is

completely wrong that Sri Venkatacharya provided material to Sri

Rangacharya. Sri Rangacharya had access to Sri Madhura Krishna Murthy as

he was writing articles (in Jyotisha magazine run by Sri Madhura) and he

could get the required material. How many persons know that Sri Madhura

Krishna Murthi learnt some basics of Jaimini from Sri Vemuri Ramamurthy?

How many know that it was Sri Madhura Krishnamurthi who introduced Sri

Rangacharya to Sri Vemuri? How many know that Sri Rangacharya had

interaction with Sri Vemuri and visited him a couple of times. Sri

Vemuri was a chaste Brahmin feels much concerned about their Puja room.

Yet, he took Sri Rangacharya to his Puja room, such was the affection he

had towards Sri Rangacharya. Sri Rangacharya wrote many articles in

Telugu Astrological magazine run by Sri Madhura Krishnamurthi. The

bottom line is they had good relations with each other, may have had

difference of opinions on concepts. Sri Rangacharya wrote articles on

Jaimini, in those days when Sri Vemuri was alive. People believe that

Sri Vemuri Ramamurthi was pioneer in Jaimini System Yet, he never

trained anyone and his knowledge was lost. That's the precise

purpose, SA urged the students to pose questions on Jaimini to save the

knowledge of senior scholars in digital format so that it can be read by

someone 70 years from now.

 

 

 

Nothing to speak of Sri P.S.Sastri as his commentary on Jaimini speaks.

 

 

 

 

 

This is sufficient to show what is the standard of his work and the

award given by you, with sending a mail within a short duration of time.

 

 

 

 

It is very pity that people or organizations are popping up with a motto

of " SCRATCH MY BACK AND I SCRATCH YOURS "

 

I am not interested in your reply as your actions are itself evident -

until there is something EXTRAORDINARY Let there be light for the true

seeker

 

-----end of reply 2---

suggestion 1: For beginners, this subject is to be avoided

suggestion 2: For professionals, please contact me to the

id:join_veda for any further information

 

 

 

Yes, Let there be light for the true seeker.

 

 

 

As I wrote earlier, this person is craving for exposure and now he has

given his email id to join in his group. This is the pity of Indian

astrologers they believe in throwing stones at scholars to gain cheap

mileage and form their own groups instead of contributing to the science

first.

 

 

 

Jai Varahamihira

 

Jai Jaimini

 

Jai Radhe

 

 

 

ॠनमः शिवाय

 

Warm Regards,

 

Shanmukha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Om Namah Sivaya

 

 

 

Dear Brothers and Sisters

 

My reply to Mr Leela's mail which actually does not deserve a reply

for the simple reason that it exhibited mannerisms not conducive for

honest discussion. I tried to apply colors to highlight, but it was

observed not working. So, I am adding my name at the relevant places and

my reply in Bold Letters. Hope it works this time.

 

 

 

Excuse me for sending the same mail again.

 

 

 

----------- My reply starts from here onwards ------

 

 

To whomsoever it may concern,

 

 

 

Mr/Mrs

I am neither your friend nor foe, so do not address with words like

" Friends " etc.

 

 

 

Shanmukha: Ours is a tradition from which Saint Vivekananda rose,

addressing the Americans " Brothers and Sisters " . I don't

know from which tradition he is who can't address anyone as a

friend. If someone addressed you or others as Friends, is it such a big

crime, did you lose some money or a night's sleep ? A reply like

that from anyone over someone addressing someone as Friends only

exhibits a Gandhian reply `Get Well Soon'.

 

 

You have misread the whole " FACT "

 

 

In a Vikram aur Bethal story, it is Bethal who " tells " the story and

" asks " So IRC is Bethal who told a beautiful, fancy and mental

speculative story called " Jaimini Sutramritam " with no minimum courtesy

of acknowledgment for his source material, persons who lend them to him.

 

 

 

Shanmukha: Probably most of the readers are not aware of Vikram aur

Bhetal story. The legend is like the following. The King Vikram was

asked by a Mantrik to bring the corpse lying in a graveyard. He warns

the King not to speak while he brings in the corpse and the moment he

fails to keep silent, the corpse will return to graveyard. There lives a

Bhetal (A Spirit) in the corpse. When King went to the graveyard to

bring the corpse, Bhetal warns the King about the ill plans of the

Mantrik. Yet, since the King Vikram promised the Mantrik, he tries to

carry the corpse. Then, Bhetal tells the King Vikramarka a story

embedded with a puzzle and asks the king to unfold it. Bhetal also warns

if the King doesn't answer the puzzle even though he knows the

answer, the King's head will be cut in 1000 pieces. As the King

Vikram is intelligent and smart, he would answer the puzzle, but since

the King would speak the corpse will return to the graveyard. Like this

there will be many attempts by the King and many puzzles by the Bhetal.

 

 

 

I don't understand why Mr. Leela links this story with Sri

Rangacharya. Why he calls " Jaimini Sutramritam " as a mental

speculation. It looks he read this work with pre-occupied notions. If we

read the preface of the book, we understand what are the Jaimini

commentaries he referred in commenting Jaimini Sutras. Jaimini

Sutramritam is not at all a speculative work, but an honest attempt by a

scholar to bring in the essence of the Jaimini School in a nutshell with

his meticulous study of ancient works on this science. His main motto in

commenting the work is not to contradict and coin fancy theories, but

understanding the commentaries and prove their veracity.

 

 

 

He humbly admits that he has not furthered the Jaimini system, but tried

to understand and preserve the system. He always admits that not even

50% of work is done unfolding this system and calls upon the young

Astrologers to do that needful work. Remember, this is a message from

Sri Rangacharya, now aged 83, who has spent 5o years in Jaimini.

 

 

 

It is true that his commentary doesn't contain examples on Dasa

systems. For the precise purpose, he has written more than 50 articles

on Jaimini system in various Astrological journals. If he had included

them in his " Jaimini Sutramritam " , the book would have been more

than a 1000 pages, which a simple Head Master of a Govt. School in a

small town called Hanamkonda in Andhra Pradesh couldn't afford to

publish. The students of this Jaimini System definitely would be

indebted to this man for his work and history will prove this.

 

 

 

Coming to the source material, Sri Rangacharya clearly explained the

works he referred in the preface of his work. He mentioned many of the

references in the Sanskrit commentary. I challenge that his commentary

is the foremost one, in giving most of the references from Vriddha

Karikas, ancient commentaries. Let somebody prove me wrong. If someone

pays money for transcribing a work, Is it necessary to acknowledge? If

he acknowledges, it would be good. We can't judge a person for a

simple lapse like this. Does Mr. Leela know that the person who lend the

manuscripts to him took money for that? We never know for sure what went

in between, then why to make such foolish statements.

 

 

 

 

So it becomes " his " (not ours) duty to ask " questions " (to himself)

like:

 

 

1) If Jaimini is superior to other schools, What stopped, great Acharyas

like Varahamihira, Kalyanavarma etc of Garga school, to not mention it

in their great works.

 

 

 

Shanmukha : The same question can be asked like " What stopped

Varahamihira, Kalyana Varma not to mention Vimsottari Dasa? " . Mr.

Leela brands Varahamihira and Kalyanavarma of Garga School. The Science

needs to be researched and modified according to the age like a flowing

river. If the river becomes a still pond, then it will be contaminated.

Like this, in the pages of history, one particular system will flourish

at a certain point of time, it then gets lost in time and then gets

restored to the previous glory again. We never know why they didn't

mention Sage Jaimini, Sage Parasara etc.

 

 

 

Sri Rangacharya never opined Jaimini System is superior to the other

systems. He always admits that knowledge of Parasara system is essential

in understanding Jaimini Astrology. This is often warned by him not to

ignore Parasara system, since Jaimini System doesn't contain

delineations of all spheres of the life. Yet, He explains the points

addressed by Sage Jaimini in his sutras are superb in finding practical

applicability.

 

 

2) If one aspires to study Jyotish, he should be thorough with all three

branches i.e., Siddhanta, Hora and Samhita which are resolved completely

by Varahamihira during golden age, but we do not find such

completed works of either Jaimini and Parasara. Moreover, it is clearly

stated by Varahamihira in Brihatjataka 1ch 2 sloka that he tried his

best to resolve the lost or ruined " Tantra " , if so, why Jaimini is not

being mentioned by him or listed among 18 rishis who taught this sastra,

Is it not existing during his time, if so, can IRC mention any small

verse from works of Varahamihira. Again, if Kalidas a contemporary of

Varahamihira can mention Arudha concept in his Uttarakalamrita why not

Varahamihira?

 

 

 

Shanmukha: As explained above, we never know Why Varahamihira never

talked about Sage Parasara or Sage Jaimini. Well, Can Mr. Leela explain,

why Varaha didn't acknowledge? Does he mean that at the time of

Varahamihira, these systems were not existing.

 

 

 

It was mentioned by the savants of this system like Somanatha, Krishna

Mishra that this science is a Secret System. They were well aware of

Brihat Jataka and they clearly dismissed the Hora, Drekkana, Amsa chart

calculations advocated by Varahamihira. They mentioned a different

reckoning of Drekkana, Hora and Amsa charts for the usage in Jaimini

System. They also mentioned Vriddha Karikas in their works. That means

the Vriddha Karikas are ancient even to the time of Somanatha. Krishna

Mishra, the father of Somanatha, claims in his Jyotisha Phalaratnamala

that he was living in the court of King Vikramarka. The exact verse

reads as follows.

 

शà¥à¤°à¥€à¤µà¤¿à¤•à¥à¤°à¤®à¤¾à¤°à¥à¤•à¥Œ

जगतीतलेऽसà¥à¤®à¤¿à¤¨à¥

जीयानॠमनà¥à¤ªà¥à¤°à¤–à¥à¤¯à¤¯à¤¶à¤¾

नरेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤ƒà¥¤

 

úrîvikramârkau jagatîtale'smin jîyân

manuprakhyayaúâ narendraḥ |

 

 

 

So, it needs to be searched by the savants of this system about the

living time of Krishna Mishra and the King Vikramarka of the lineage of

Manu. Then, we will get to know approximately how ancient this system

was. As Somanatha mentioned Brihat Jataka, he will be definitely after

Varahamihira time. They followed the commentary by Sage Sarvagna, who

was an expert of this system. Like this we can move further in

understanding the era of these savants. Since it was a secret system as

claimed by Somantha and Krishna Mishra, it is apparent why Sage Jaimini

was not mentioned by Varahamihira. Krishna Mishra was on record saying

that he is unfolding a Secret system while explaining Divya Lagna. I am

giving below the verse snippets form the Kalpalatha of Somanatha

available with us for proof of my explanation.

 

 

 

तथाच लगà¥à¤¨à¤¤à¥à¤°à¤¿à¤­à¤¾à¤—ो

दà¥à¤°à¥‡à¤•à¥à¤•à¤£ इति

नà¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤¯à¥‡à¤¨ बृहतà¥

जातकादिषà¥

पà¥à¤°à¤¸à¤¿à¤§à¥à¤¦à¤¸à¥à¤¯

दà¥à¤°à¥‡à¤•à¥à¤•à¤¾à¤£à¤¸à¥à¤¯

अनिरूपितà¥à¤µà¤¾à¤¤à¥à¥¤

 

tathâca lagnatribhâgo drekkaṇa iti nyâyena bá¹›hat

jâtakâdiá¹£u prasidhdasya drekkâṇasya

anirûpitvât |

 

 

 

होरातॠपंचधा।

बृहजà¥à¤œà¤¤à¤•à¤¾ पà¥à¤°à¤¸à¤¿à¤§à¥à¤¦à¤¾à¥¤

 

horâtu paá¹cadhâ| bá¹›hajjatakâ prasidhdâ |

 

 

 

असà¥à¤¯ अरà¥à¤¥à¤¸à¥à¤¯ सूतà¥à¤°à¥‡

संपà¥à¤°à¥‹à¤•à¥à¤¤à¤¤à¥à¤µà¤¾à¤¤à¥à¥¤

 

रहसà¥à¤¯ शासà¥à¤¤à¥à¤°à¥‡à¤·à¥

अधिगमà¥à¤¯ वà¥à¤¯à¤¾à¤•à¥à¤°à¥à¤®à¤ƒ

 

asya arthasya sûtre saá¹proktatvât |

 

rahasya úâstreá¹£u adhigamya vyâkurmaḥ

 

 

 

 

3) Why not he or his contemporaries practice the best solved school

i.e., Varahimihira through the mathematical methods preached by Keshava

and Sripati who themselves have again resolved completely all three

branches through their works like " Siddhanta Sekhara " , " Jataka Karma

Paddhati " and " Jyotisha Ratnamala " etc, because it is very difficult or

complicated to implement? (This question is applicable to you and your

readers)

 

 

 

Shanmukha: There are many tools in Astrology. Scholars study them and

use whichever suits him. It is ridiculous to ask questions like this

which are grossly incoherent. I can ask him questions like why can't

Mr. Leela practice works like " Jyotisha Phalaratnamala " ,

" Jyotisha Kalpalatha " , " Jataka Sara Sangraha " etc. which

are complete in their exposition of Jaimini system. Does he not use them

for they are complicated and not comprehensive to him? The taste of

pudding lies in eating. Probably this guy seems to have manuscripts like

the ones he mentioned and tires to get mileage out of them. It was also

advertised in the Horoscopes prepared by his VEDA institute that they

prepare the horoscopes according to the works he mentioned in the above

para of his mail.

 

 

 

If Varahamihira completely resolved the Astrology, then what made

Kalyana Varma to write Saravali. What made other authors like

Vaidhyanatha, Mantreswara, Venkateswara etc. to write some more classics

on Astrology?

 

 

4) If some foreign authority or a serious thinker asks us regarding

study of this science with archaeological evident material we only have

with us that of Varahamihira works complete on three branches but not

for other schools. So it becomes first priority for a student to take

this school seriously, master it and then look for other which are not

completely available.

 

 

 

Shanmukha: Mr. Leela is most welcome in taking up works like

Varahamihira. Indian history in archaeological and chronological order

is matter of another experts and I don't dwell in to this. Students

are free to choose his branch of interest as Mr. Leela is.

 

 

5) if he is to be treated as living authority on Jaimini, he should

first practice for atleast 10yrs in Varahamihira, train students, which

is not evident either in his works or list of students etc

 

 

 

Shanmukha: It is like poking his nose into other. How can this guy ask

someone to study this or that first, he should mind his own business.

The normal tradition is for someone to produce one or two good books of

his own and then one can start opening his or her mouth in advising

someone what to study or what not to practice. Does he mean

" Varahamihira is above Sage Jaimini " ? Or he means that

understanding Varahamihira is essential to understand Sage Jaimini.

Whichever be his opinion let him bring out his books, researches on

Brihat Jataka and Jaimini Sutras and let the people verify them.

That's what a sincere scholar needs to do, when one wants to

propagate his ideas on any science. As already expressed his books will

speak about his scholarship not his words and even if one's books

are better than others, it is considered extremely rude to tell people

what to practice especially not to a man who is in his 80s.

 

 

6) As Jyotish is based on Karma Siddhanta, can it be proved on Jaimini

lines?

 

 

 

Shanmukha: He is going miles away at a faster speed. I request him to

prove the above in Jaimini or Varahamihira etc.

 

शà¥à¤°à¥€ गà¥à¤°à¥à¤­à¥à¤¯à¥‹ नमः

 

 

7) When Jaimini says that we have to apply " Katapaya " but not Bhuta

sajna, why it is that the later is called for in Sutra 2-4-27 Tara Arka

amsa .... Because it is commented by Neelankantha whom IRC mostly

disagree?

 

 

 

Shanmukha: The sutra mentioned by Mr. Leela reads as follows.

 

तारारà¥à¤•à¤¾à¤‚शे

मनà¥à¤¦à¤¾à¤¦à¥à¤¯à¥‹ दशेशः

२-४-२७

 

târârkâá¹úe mandâdyo daúeúaḥ 2-4-27

 

 

 

Mr. Leela was probably unaware that the explanation given by Sri

Rangacharya was not only endorsed by Neelakantha, but also by Somantha,

Raghava Bhatta etc. This shows his ignorance of Jaimini works. Sage

mentioned that he denotes bhavas, signs in Katapayadi pneumonic and not

the planets vide the following sutras.

 

सरà¥à¤µà¤¤à¥à¤° सवरà¥à¤£à¤­à¤¾à¤µà¤¾

राशयशà¥à¤š १-१-३२

 

sarvatra savarṇabhâvâ râúayaúca 1-1-32

 

Translation : The signs and bhavas are discernible by the katapaya

pneumonic values.

 

न गà¥à¤°à¤¹à¤¾à¤ƒ १-२-३३

 

na grahâḥ 1-2-33

 

Translation : The planets are not represented in katapayadi pnemonic.

 

 

 

So, it is clear that only signs and houses needs to be understood using

Katapayadi system. Hence the words " Taara " , " Arka " , Amsa " needs to be

interpreted using normal meanings. That's probably the precise

reason why all savants of this system interpreted this sutra in

calculating Tara Lagna. That is dividing the duration of Moon Nakshtra

in to 12 parts and calculating the no. of parts from Lagna to obtain

Tara lagan. Here, the beauty is word मनà¥à¤¦ was interpreted

using katapaya pnemonic yielding Lagna, which is a Bhava.

 

 

 

So, the allegation made by Mr. Leela was baseless, sarcastic and acks

propriety.

 

 

 

 

8) Can he explain the reasons for basic principles on which Jaimini

School stands? For example, the dasa krama for movable fixed and dual -

1,6 and 4 as per sutras 2-4-8,9,10

 

 

 

Shanmukha: He clearly explained them in Jaimini Sutramrtiam (Sanskrit

and English Commentary). Request him study them once again. He has given

a Vriddha Karika as well which clearly explains this concept. Proper

study of the work is necessary before making allegations. This type of

false allegation can only be expected from a person of Mr. Leela's

caliber who has had a history of joining forums, showing his rude nature

at the drop of a hat, fighting with everyone and so on.

 

 

9) If he is authority why he is not reacting to frequent objections

raised by Hetuvada Sangha in Hyderabad about validity of Jyotish Sastra.

 

 

 

Shanmukha: I request Mr. Leela to respond to these frequent objections

by Hetuvada Sangha in Hyderabad because he runs a VEDA institute that

claims to propagate Astrology. Probably he may win those one crore prize

announced by them for proving Astrology. If he wants to propagate the

science he can use this One Crore rupees to publish some rare

manuscripts or do whatever he wishes with it.

 

 

10) With my interaction with one of his (IRC) students who claims that

he can sort out male and female from a bunch of at least 100 birth

charts within 5 minutes, and also he can identify married couples out of

100 given pair of horoscopes very efficiently - Is this true? Of course

this student denies the chara karaka theory proposed by his guru

himself.

 

 

 

Shanmukha: Since Mr. Leela interacted with the above cited student, Why

can't he check out whether claim made by that student is true or

not? Why does Mr. Leela ask us to whether it is true or not? How stupid

can one get by asking us a question which we never answered in the first

place? Sri Rangacharya in my interaction with him never made such tall

claims. He is so humble, who knows the limitations of the Astrology and

its tools. Guru only guides the student, it up to the student to move it

further. I don't know whom Mr. Leela is referring to, yet if I were

correct in my guess, that claimed knowledge of that student neither

useful to him nor to the students of this system, since he never shared

to the public. At one point of time Mr Leela is demanding the originator

of this mail to name the 3 scholars of Jaimini yet he did not give the

name of the student, does not sound a fair practice.

 

 

 

 

These are only some: I have read thoroughly his work " Jaimini

Sutramritam " but not felt slightest grace of Jaimini " through it " –

If someone like you still feel " Shri Iranganti Rangacharya one of the

foremost & oldest authorities of Classical Jaimini Astrology " then let

him give " AN EXHAUSTIVE EXPLANATION ON FIRST 3 SUTRAS " - I PROMISE THAT

I WILL GIVE EXTRAORDINARY EXPLANATION TO THE SAME

 

 

 

Shanmukha: I have proved one of the allegations made by Mr. Leela wrong

in the above paragraphs. How long it will take to this guy to experience

the divine nectar that Sage Jaimini poured in his sutras. How long it

will take to this person to reach to the level of Sri Iranganti

Rangacharya who named his commentary " Sutramritam " . I need not

to testify the beauty of this work, it itself speaks of its worth. In

the ocean, people find Gems and corals as well according to their fate.

I found many pearls in " Jaimini Sutramritam " , it looks Mr. Leela

got corals, probably of his fate.

 

 

 

One can appreciate Mr. Leela's extraordinary explanations, either if

he had given them in his mail or published his work before he could

write such a mail. Unfortunately he does neither, yet makes tall claims;

it does not exhibit the attitude of grace towards elders.

 

 

You have failed to mention:

 

1) names of 3 persons dedicated to Jaimini

 

2) your designation etc

 

 

 

Shanmukha: Just a simple question. Whether this person (Mr. Leela)

signed this mail, wrote this designation or name etc. I don't find

it in the mail. If he hasn't, then on what grounds, he points out

that admin@SA didn't mention the designation. Our concern here is

Astrology, not the formalities.

 

 

 

To conclude, I have no intention of giving trouble to elder or aged

persons, but if they have much enthusiasm to get their name popular by

mean methods (before they die) to stand besides Jaimini Maharshi,

Varahamihira acharya and other great thinkers it is not healthy for our

" sanatana dharma " and I strongly recommend you and your readers to1

first take seriously the most completed schools like Varahamihira and

start working on them on these lines to prove this great science:

 

 

 

Shanmukha: Well, his intentions are very clear. I fear Mr. Leela

misunderstood the intention of the mail by Saptarishis Astrology team.

It is not the intention of Sri Rangacharya to advertise to be equaled to

Sage Jaimini etc. Unfortunately, it looks it was Mr. Leela's

intention to become famous as he wants people to join his website and

him. It was the genuine intention of SA team to give the opportunity to

students of Jaimini system to pose the lingering questions in their

minds, hopefully answered by a savant of this system. Why can't Mr.

Leela shoot some tough questions on Jaimini system as was requested by

SA team rather than writing such repeated foolish mails. I requested the

admin@SA to clarify whether this mail was given with the knowledge of

Sri Rangacharya. Just now I got clarification from Saptarishis Astrology

that Sri Rangacharya does not even know of the existence of this mail

from SA requesting for questions. Mr. Leela speaks of " Sanatana

Dharma " and yet can't understand the meaning of brotherhood

(Vasudhaiva Kutumba), who can't address the person as a friend to

whom he is writing such a mail.

 

 

 

I request the student of Jaimini to ignore these shooters who tries to

procure cheap mileage out of false allegations.

 

 

 

1) Collecting at least 2,00,000 births from different locations

pertaining to 4 main directions through hospitals

 

2) Evaluate them on basis of sex, weight, nature of delivery,

direction of delivery room, complexion of child, geographical location

of birth like plain, plateau, hill, valley, river, forest etc

 

3) Evaluate infant deaths

 

4) Evaluate unnatural deaths for at least 1000 births

 

5) Find the appropriate ayanamsa that explains the above

 

 

 

This is very basic research work for every student

 

 

 

Shanmukha: Please have at look at the points above raised by Mr.Leela.

Is it possible for anybody to do such a herculean task? So far, how many

horoscopes that this person writing long claims have collected? In SA

website, there is a section " Akashic Records " devoted to these

activities where they have a no. of categories like " Divorce

Cases " , " Unmarried " etc. If Mr. Leela has collected any such

horoscopes, kindly provide them to the public for their study. If he

hasn't so far or can't provide 200 cases of the above

approximately 10 categories that he has mentioned for the Akashic

Records or any other site then its only akin to barking and not doing

any real work. For years on these many forums many said of collecting

manuscripts, translating them for the good of astrology, yet it is no

one who has done so far, lets first `Do It' then `Talk About

It'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please do not mix up hallucinogenic ideas like Narayana dasa etc

proposed by pseudo astrologers like Rath, Rao etc with those of

charakaraka and darpana ideas of IRC calibre.

 

 

 

 

 

Shanmukha: I won't respond to Narayana Dasa etc. Coming to Darpana

idea, it is not Sri Rangacharya's idea. It was Sage Jaimini's

idea, which was explained by Raghava Bhatta in his Jataka Sara Sangraha.

One should study the literature before criticizing someone's work

else only his ignorance will be proved.

 

 

 

 

This whole chaos and confusion is due to Chitra Vichitra nature of Ketu

whose gotra is Jaimini - so it is only due to grace of swayam Jamini who

has peculiar habit of selecting his own disciples.

 

 

 

Shanmukha: I hope by this time, readers could understand who is in the

state of hallucinogenic, cynical and depression. It is very true that

Sage Jaimini picks up his students and I am sure the Sage being a

spiritual being would not pick up students who are abusive, trying to

gain mileage by putting others down, who are of the mark from the main

subject at hand.

 

 

 

Somanatha, in the first paragraph of his celebrated commentary

" Kalpalatha " , venerate Sage Jaimini as " Bhagavan

Acharya " . That is their scholarship in acknowledging Sage.

 

 

 

 

 

Jai Jaimini

 

Jai Varahamihira

 

Jairadhe

 

 

 

Shanmukha: (I do not see your name or designation here Mr Leela or Sagar

Or Madhav).

 

Now, here comes the second mail from Mr. Leela. Probably, he didn't

get the required mileage from his first mail and hence made some more

false allegations. Let me answer them as well. This mail is for sincere

students to provide the information available with me.

 

 

 

Mr/Mrs admin Saptarishi Astrology

 

 

I have some thing more important to say regarding IRC's work Jaimini

Sutramritam which I missed in my previous mail

 

1) It contains

 

 

a) NO one authoritative commentary like Neelakantha or Venkateshwara's

 

 

 

Shanmukha: Unfortunately, Mr.Leela knows only the above two

commentaries. Sri Rangacharya wrote an independent commentary on Jaimini

Sutras based on his study of various available works, not translated the

commentaries of Nilakantha or Venkatatesa. This simple concept is not

understood by Mr. Leela, let alone Jaimini System. As indicated earlier,

Sri Rangacharya consulted many commentaries, and his preface speaks of

them.

 

 

 

b) NO reproduction of mms and details like oriental library catalog

number etc

 

 

 

Shanmukha: Not at all required to mention the MSS and Oriental Catalog

No, when they are readily available with him in manuscript from and some

in Book form. Sri Rangacharya explained when Jataka Sara Sangraha was

printed. He is the fortunate one have had the printed copy of

" Jataka Sara Sangraha " apart from Sri P. Siva Kumar of

Pidaparthi lineage.

 

 

c) NO acknowledgment

 

 

 

Shanmukha: What acknowledgement he needs to do.

 

 

d) NO bibliography

 

 

 

Shanmukha: Doesn't merit any answer.

 

 

 

e) NO illustrative examples

 

 

 

Shanmukha: For the precise purpose, he wrote many articles in

Astrological magazine. In the function held in Hyderabad, we distributed

the free CD containing more than 50 articles of his published articles

in various magazines. Still, lots more are pending with SA for typing

etc. works.

 

 

f) NO complete vriddha karikas

 

 

 

Shanmukha: Sheer ignorance. It is the commentary that contains the most

of the Vriddha Karikas. Scholars like Sri Sanjay Rath praise Sri

Rangacharya as the authority on Vriddha Karikas and he highly recommends

Sri Rangacharya's work. Readers can check archives of Sohamsa during

the later part of 2008. Readers can check many issues of AM and speeches

of Dr. Raman where he praises Sri Rangacharya regarding his studies in

Jaimini. Sri Rangacharya was one of the first directors of Telugu

University Astrology courses, recommended by Dr. B.V.Raman to Mr.

N.T.Rama Rao, then Chief Minister.

 

 

g) NO index

 

 

 

Shanmukha: Basically, it is a Sanskrit commentary, for which he added

English translation for the benefit of readers. This type of works

doesn't fit in modern style of book writing. He also advised in one

of his books in English to study Sanskrit commentary of his to

understand the Jaimini. It is unfortunate that M/s Sagar Publications

removed the Sanskrit part while publishing " Jaimini

Sutramritam " .

 

 

 

2) It contains extra sutras with no references or source material,

 

 

 

Shanmukha: If Mr. Leela showed those extra sutras it would

have been constructive criticism. Readers can understand the mood of

this person.

 

3) Worse, where the words within sutra are very important in their order

of occurence, It contains irregular order of sutras

 

 

 

Shanmukha: What to comment on this unless he shows what

exactly he wants to convey. Let him prove the explanations / Commentary

given by Sri Rangacharya wrong either in context wise or Grammar wise

etc. If Mr. Leela can't do it, please keep quiet and don't waste

time of others by mailing such false allegations.

 

 

4) It costs Rs 150/- in 1990s

 

 

 

Shanmukha: It is true. If people finds the book worth spending Rs.150/-,

then they will buy. What bothers this person? Nobody is pointing a gun

at a customer and forcing him to buy. I know people have photocopied

Jaimini Sutramritam for the copies were not available and sold it at

much higher cost but the price of a book does not show the worth of its

contents, this any kid in astrology knows so why comment on it.

 

 

 

He do not mentions any reference to

 

1) Sri Madura Krishnamurty Sastry

2) Sri P S Sastri

3) Sri Koil Kandadai Annan Kumar Venkatacharya of Warangal in whose

house Mr IRC was a tenant - he is main person who provided Mr IRC the

material.

 

4) Sri Vemuri Ramamurthy - the pioneer vedic scholar without whom the

present day interest in Jaimini could not be possible.

 

 

 

Shanmukha: Why does Sri Rangacharya need to mention their references?

Did any person referred above; make a reference to Sri Rangacharya in

their books? They are all peers to him when he was active in Astrology

and Sri Rangacharya is in no way inferior to them, of course if not

superior.

 

 

 

Coming to Sri Koil Kandadai, yes it was true that Sri Rangacharya was

tenant in their house. Does this mean, he has to acknowledge them? I

don't know much of Sri Venkatacharya, yet the story I learnt was

different and since it doesn't fetch anything to Astrology, I

don't want to narrate it here. I can simply say there will always be

two sides for a story. One needs to learn both to judge. It is

completely wrong that Sri Venkatacharya provided material to Sri

Rangacharya. Sri Rangacharya had access to Sri Madhura Krishna Murthy as

he was writing articles (in Jyotisha magazine run by Sri Madhura) and he

could get the required material. How many persons know that Sri Madhura

Krishna Murthi learnt some basics of Jaimini from Sri Vemuri Ramamurthy?

How many know that it was Sri Madhura Krishnamurthi who introduced Sri

Rangacharya to Sri Vemuri? How many know that Sri Rangacharya had

interaction with Sri Vemuri and visited him a couple of times. Sri

Vemuri was a chaste Brahmin feels much concerned about their Puja room.

Yet, he took Sri Rangacharya to his Puja room, such was the affection he

had towards Sri Rangacharya. Sri Rangacharya wrote many articles in

Telugu Astrological magazine run by Sri Madhura Krishnamurthi. The

bottom line is they had good relations with each other, may have had

difference of opinions on concepts. Sri Rangacharya wrote articles on

Jaimini, in those days when Sri Vemuri was alive. People believe that

Sri Vemuri Ramamurthi was pioneer in Jaimini System Yet, he never

trained anyone and his knowledge was lost. That's the precise

purpose, SA urged the students to pose questions on Jaimini to save the

knowledge of senior scholars in digital format so that it can be read by

someone 70 years from now.

 

 

 

Nothing to speak of Sri P.S.Sastri as his commentary on Jaimini speaks.

 

 

 

 

 

This is sufficient to show what is the standard of his work and the

award given by you, with sending a mail within a short duration of time.

 

 

 

 

It is very pity that people or organizations are popping up with a motto

of " SCRATCH MY BACK AND I SCRATCH YOURS "

 

I am not interested in your reply as your actions are itself evident -

until there is something EXTRAORDINARY Let there be light for the true

seeker

 

-----end of reply 2---

suggestion 1: For beginners, this subject is to be avoided

suggestion 2: For professionals, please contact me to the

id:join_veda for any further information

 

 

 

Shanmukha: Yes, Let there be light for the true seeker.

 

 

 

As I wrote earlier, this person is craving for exposure and now he has

given his email id to join in his group. This is the pity of Indian

astrologers they believe in throwing stones at scholars to gain cheap

mileage and form their own groups instead of contributing to the science

first.

 

 

 

Jai Varahamihira

 

Jai Jaimini

 

Jai Radhe

 

 

 

ॠनमः शिवाय

 

Warm Regards,

 

Shanmukha