ELOPED ELDER SISTER CONTROVERSIAL MARRIAGE

April 19, 2010

Respected Sanjay ji,Lakshmi ji,Sarjit ji.

>> Namaskar.

>> Below happens to be the birth details of my elder sister.Her chart is

>> an example of secert Love Marriage in 2007,with disreputation in

>> society after marriage.Also rejection by our family,followed by separation

>> distancing,the marriage happens to be a person of very low status,in

>> terms of caste and financial.

>> What is the future of this marriage,bocz divorce likely in her chart.

>> UL lord Shani(Happens to be sorrowful for her).in A7 .

>> Sister elder than her partner by two years.

>> This is tough situation for our family.

>> Is a rescue indication???

>> Kindly Guide if possible.with astrological reasons of such a incident.

>> DOB 25 jan 1976.

>> TOB 2:35 am.

>> Place :Lucknow

>> Country:India.

>>KINDLY GUIDE WHAT STEP WE SHOULD TAKE,MORE THAN 3 YRS HAVE PASSED,WITH NO

DECISION.

WHOLE LOT OF TENSIONS IN FAMILY ARE BECAUSE OF ABOVE EVENT

best regards

Ashish .

April 19, 2010

Hare Rama KRishna

Dear Ashish,

IS your sister happy? Is her husband taking good care of her?

Im trying to understand the situation and what you are asking.

I assume you are saying society around you is givign your family a hard time due

to the unconventional marriage, and social status of the husband.?If so I doubt

things would improve for your family if she divorces.

However, her marriage looks be strong from the chart.

Ok, if I have the chart right- using an older version of jh , so double check

it.

I have scorpio rising with UL in aquarius,

either way aquarius has 2 lords both with some negative elements, plus UL is

aspected by Rahu, so chart appears to be correct, I dont know about the navamsa

so, i leave it out of equation.

Point-

Second from UL shows what supports or breaks marriages,

plus you have to look at other things to confirm.

The thing that stands out in your sisters chart -is that Jupiter is in PISCES ,

his own sign in the 2nd from the UL in the 5th house of love affairs..

The second from UL ISNT aspected by any malefics, in fact it has aspect also

from Venus.Pretty nice benefical Karmic influences SUPPORTing this marriage.

In summary, I hope there is some way this gets resolved so your family can be

happy and ok, but it looks like this marriage of your sister was strongly

destined.If I didnt understand your question, please rephase it.

best wishes

LAkshmi

sohamsa , " Ashish " <bondmerama wrote:

>

> Respected Sanjay ji,Lakshmi ji,Sarjit ji.

>

> >> Namaskar.

> >> Below happens to be the birth details of my elder sister.Her chart is

> >> an example of secert Love Marriage in 2007,with disreputation in

> >> society after marriage.Also rejection by our family,followed by separation

> >> distancing,the marriage happens to be a person of very low status,in

> >> terms of caste and financial.

> >> What is the future of this marriage,bocz divorce likely in her chart.

> >> UL lord Shani(Happens to be sorrowful for her).in A7 .

> >> Sister elder than her partner by two years.

> >> This is tough situation for our family.

> >> Is a rescue indication???

> >> Kindly Guide if possible.with astrological reasons of such a incident.

> >> DOB 25 jan 1976.

> >> TOB 2:35 am.

> >> Place :Lucknow

> >> Country:India.

> >>KINDLY GUIDE WHAT STEP WE SHOULD TAKE,MORE THAN 3 YRS HAVE PASSED,WITH NO

DECISION.

> WHOLE LOT OF TENSIONS IN FAMILY ARE BECAUSE OF ABOVE EVENT

> best regards

>

> Ashish .

>

April 20, 2010

Hare Rama KRishna

Dear Rafal,

If the 2nd from UL shows what supports and breaks a marriage,

and Jupiter is there in this chart as the binding principle, whether it

represents children or tradition, or money.

We cant overlook the influence of Venus as well.

Jupiter it AK and Venus is DK.!

As Far as I am aware, we arent looking for whether Jupiter is a friend or not to

lagna , we are looking to see what influences are having argala onto UL.

If the marriage is to break as you say due to extra marital affairs, then there

should be influence of Rahu, and such on the 2nd from UL.

Now are you assuming that the native or the spouse would be the one to due this?

my point is I dont think it is wise to mess around with the navamsa chart unless

you can clearly see something indicated in rasi.

You said " if you move it 7 minutes lagna changes " , but it also changes the other

way at 6 minutes!

Before you make some big moves to navamsa- where do you see a tendancy or

potential for this in the natives RASI chart.?

also , did you notice the transit of Jupiter coming up?

In regards to dasa choice, I think Vimshottari is a better choice to use as

there are many planets in kendra to MOON.

with regards and looking forward to your reply you need a more convincing

argument to sway me.

Lakshmi

sohamsa , RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> *klim krishna klim*

> Dear Lakshmi

>

> Such Guru is normally good, but not for Rahu/Kumbha rasi. If its 1st

> marriage then if we move forward 7 minutes then 8th in D9 have

> Shukra-Rahu yoga which shows extramaritial problems.

>

> Last part of Budha mahadasa (Dvisaptati) belongs to strength and

> nicaamsa avastha brings many stressful situation and seperation (Budha

> is in vayu rasi in D9). Mercury dasa is challenging for

> Navami tithi (being rejected by family/community) and is ending soon.

> Current AD is of Mars which gives effect of Moon (Navamsa parivartana)

> and being in 12th with Rahu doesn't bode well. Åšakti yoga aspects Mangal

> (7th lord) which is rejected by Atmakaraka (marana karaka sthana). These

> are also in Visakha nakÅ›atra which is Utpata (100% significator Rahu,

> the good point is friendly sambandha with Vara which is Sanivar). Rahu

> is lord of Upapada and 4th house so the problems are occuring now

> (Candra AD).

>

> Worship of Durga (especially Puja) would be the remedy based on the

> traditional advise.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Vedic Astrologer of SJC

> http://rohinaa.com/

> /rgendarz/

>

> lakshmikary pisze:

> >

> > Hare Rama KRishna

> > Dear Ashish,

> > IS your sister happy? Is her husband taking good care of her?

> > Im trying to understand the situation and what you are asking.

> > I assume you are saying society around you is givign your family a

> > hard time due to the unconventional marriage, and social status of the

> > husband.?If so I doubt things would improve for your family if she

> > divorces.

> > However, her marriage looks be strong from the chart.

> > Ok, if I have the chart right- using an older version of jh , so

> > double check it.

> > I have scorpio rising with UL in aquarius,

> > either way aquarius has 2 lords both with some negative elements, plus

> > UL is aspected by Rahu, so chart appears to be correct, I dont know

> > about the navamsa so, i leave it out of equation.

> > Point-

> > Second from UL shows what supports or breaks marriages,

> > plus you have to look at other things to confirm.

> > The thing that stands out in your sisters chart -is that Jupiter is in

> > PISCES , his own sign in the 2nd from the UL in the 5th house of love

> > affairs..

> > The second from UL ISNT aspected by any malefics, in fact it has

> > aspect also from Venus.Pretty nice benefical Karmic influences

> > SUPPORTing this marriage.

> > In summary, I hope there is some way this gets resolved so your family

> > can be happy and ok, but it looks like this marriage of your sister

> > was strongly destined.If I didnt understand your question, please

> > rephase it.

> > best wishes

> > LAkshmi

> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>,

> > " Ashish " <bondmerama@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Sanjay ji,Lakshmi ji,Sarjit ji.

> > >

> > > >> Namaskar.

> > > >> Below happens to be the birth details of my elder sister.Her

> > chart is

> > > >> an example of secert Love Marriage in 2007,with disreputation in

> > > >> society after marriage.Also rejection by our family,followed by

> > separation

> > > >> distancing,the marriage happens to be a person of very low status,in

> > > >> terms of caste and financial.

> > > >> What is the future of this marriage,bocz divorce likely in her chart.

> > > >> UL lord Shani(Happens to be sorrowful for her).in A7 .

> > > >> Sister elder than her partner by two years.

> > > >> This is tough situation for our family.

> > > >> Is a rescue indication???

> > > >> Kindly Guide if possible.with astrological reasons of such a

> > incident.

> > > >> DOB 25 jan 1976.

> > > >> TOB 2:35 am.

> > > >> Place :Lucknow

> > > >> Country:India.

> > > >>KINDLY GUIDE WHAT STEP WE SHOULD TAKE,MORE THAN 3 YRS HAVE

> > PASSED,WITH NO DECISION.

> > > WHOLE LOT OF TENSIONS IN FAMILY ARE BECAUSE OF ABOVE EVENT

> > > best regards

> > >

> > > Ashish .

> > >

> >

>

April 20, 2010

Hare Rama KRishna

Dear Rafal,

Just for interest(and curiousity) I took the change of the navamsa lagna to 6

minutes,(instead of your 7 minutes to the later sign)

see previous post

This puts retro Saturn(the co-lord of 7th) in navamsa lagna-

Saturn would give delays in getting married, and if we use vimshottari dasa she

was in Saturn/Jupiter when she was married.

Now,

Saturn is co-lord of Ul in Rasi, Jupiter is having argala,

AND if we make this adjustment,in navamsa lagna , Saturn will be in navamsa

lagna and Jupiter is in the 7th!

Rahus influence ont he 2nd from navamsa lagna would show the controversy and

social scandal involved-he is also co-lord 7th house.

Of course if she has been previously married I take back everything ive said, I

am reading this as first marriage as more or less presented in the original

query.

Best wishes

Lakshmi

sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary wrote:

>

> Hare Rama KRishna

> Dear Rafal,

> If the 2nd from UL shows what supports and breaks a marriage,

> and Jupiter is there in this chart as the binding principle, whether it

represents children or tradition, or money.

> We cant overlook the influence of Venus as well.

> Jupiter it AK and Venus is DK.!

> As Far as I am aware, we arent looking for whether Jupiter is a friend or not

to lagna , we are looking to see what influences are having argala onto UL.

>

> If the marriage is to break as you say due to extra marital affairs, then

there should be influence of Rahu, and such on the 2nd from UL.

> Now are you assuming that the native or the spouse would be the one to due

this? my point is I dont think it is wise to mess around with the navamsa chart

unless you can clearly see something indicated in rasi.

> You said " if you move it 7 minutes lagna changes " , but it also changes the

other way at 6 minutes!

>

> Before you make some big moves to navamsa- where do you see a tendancy or

potential for this in the natives RASI chart.?

>

> also , did you notice the transit of Jupiter coming up?

>

> In regards to dasa choice, I think Vimshottari is a better choice to use as

there are many planets in kendra to MOON.

> with regards and looking forward to your reply you need a more convincing

argument to sway me.

> Lakshmi

>

> sohamsa , RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote:

> >

> > *klim krishna klim*

> > Dear Lakshmi

> >

> > Such Guru is normally good, but not for Rahu/Kumbha rasi. If its 1st

> > marriage then if we move forward 7 minutes then 8th in D9 have

> > Shukra-Rahu yoga which shows extramaritial problems.

> >

> > Last part of Budha mahadasa (Dvisaptati) belongs to strength and

> > nicaamsa avastha brings many stressful situation and seperation (Budha

> > is in vayu rasi in D9). Mercury dasa is challenging for

> > Navami tithi (being rejected by family/community) and is ending soon.

> > Current AD is of Mars which gives effect of Moon (Navamsa parivartana)

> > and being in 12th with Rahu doesn't bode well. Åšakti yoga aspects Mangal

> > (7th lord) which is rejected by Atmakaraka (marana karaka sthana). These

> > are also in Visakha nakÅ›atra which is Utpata (100% significator Rahu,

> > the good point is friendly sambandha with Vara which is Sanivar). Rahu

> > is lord of Upapada and 4th house so the problems are occuring now

> > (Candra AD).

> >

> > Worship of Durga (especially Puja) would be the remedy based on the

> > traditional advise.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Vedic Astrologer of SJC

> > http://rohinaa.com/

> > /rgendarz@/

> >

> > lakshmikary pisze:

> > >

> > > Hare Rama KRishna

> > > Dear Ashish,

> > > IS your sister happy? Is her husband taking good care of her?

> > > Im trying to understand the situation and what you are asking.

> > > I assume you are saying society around you is givign your family a

> > > hard time due to the unconventional marriage, and social status of the

> > > husband.?If so I doubt things would improve for your family if she

> > > divorces.

> > > However, her marriage looks be strong from the chart.

> > > Ok, if I have the chart right- using an older version of jh , so

> > > double check it.

> > > I have scorpio rising with UL in aquarius,

> > > either way aquarius has 2 lords both with some negative elements, plus

> > > UL is aspected by Rahu, so chart appears to be correct, I dont know

> > > about the navamsa so, i leave it out of equation.

> > > Point-

> > > Second from UL shows what supports or breaks marriages,

> > > plus you have to look at other things to confirm.

> > > The thing that stands out in your sisters chart -is that Jupiter is in

> > > PISCES , his own sign in the 2nd from the UL in the 5th house of love

> > > affairs..

> > > The second from UL ISNT aspected by any malefics, in fact it has

> > > aspect also from Venus.Pretty nice benefical Karmic influences

> > > SUPPORTing this marriage.

> > > In summary, I hope there is some way this gets resolved so your family

> > > can be happy and ok, but it looks like this marriage of your sister

> > > was strongly destined.If I didnt understand your question, please

> > > rephase it.

> > > best wishes

> > > LAkshmi

> > >

> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>,

> > > " Ashish " <bondmerama@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Sanjay ji,Lakshmi ji,Sarjit ji.

> > > >

> > > > >> Namaskar.

> > > > >> Below happens to be the birth details of my elder sister.Her

> > > chart is

> > > > >> an example of secert Love Marriage in 2007,with disreputation in

> > > > >> society after marriage.Also rejection by our family,followed by

> > > separation

> > > > >> distancing,the marriage happens to be a person of very low status,in

> > > > >> terms of caste and financial.

> > > > >> What is the future of this marriage,bocz divorce likely in her chart.

> > > > >> UL lord Shani(Happens to be sorrowful for her).in A7 .

> > > > >> Sister elder than her partner by two years.

> > > > >> This is tough situation for our family.

> > > > >> Is a rescue indication???

> > > > >> Kindly Guide if possible.with astrological reasons of such a

> > > incident.

> > > > >> DOB 25 jan 1976.

> > > > >> TOB 2:35 am.

> > > > >> Place :Lucknow

> > > > >> Country:India.

> > > > >>KINDLY GUIDE WHAT STEP WE SHOULD TAKE,MORE THAN 3 YRS HAVE

> > > PASSED,WITH NO DECISION.

> > > > WHOLE LOT OF TENSIONS IN FAMILY ARE BECAUSE OF ABOVE EVENT

> > > > best regards

> > > >

> > > > Ashish .

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 20, 2010

Respected Rafal Ji and Lakshmi Ji,

Namaskar.

The complete picture is as follows.

My elder sister used to teach in a computer institute where she had fallen in

love with a fellow student,the affair as told by her started in 2005,and on 1st

2007,she got married in a run-away situation from her institute for few

hours,with the support of office collegues,and returned back.We had no knowledge

about all this when a 3rd person informed us,and it was too late then.We were

much sacred about the defamation in family,so we along with my sister and

parents left the city and moved to Bangalore.Her marriage was unregistered.

Since 2007-till 2010 now,we wished that she would change her mind.Reasons-the

person she has married,we have never met,nor talked.

Some astrologers at that time told us that it was a Tantric trap,by the group on

my sister.,but the truth is that she is very much attached to the person.

We have no idea what to do,because marriage in such situations can be very

exploitive,because it was done in antisocial way.

So currently since past 3 yrs,me my sister and parents are all staying under one

roof,unknowing what to do.There is a complete criss-cross situation within 4 of

us.

Since the person she has chosen is not properly settled in education or

professional it makes a tough choice to accept,just on basis of love,even we

donot know whether it is true from both sides.

Please guide,what exactly we can do because my parents are worried about my

marriage also,I am 31 now.They cannot do that also nor can I without the sister

life getting properly settled.No one would wish to marry in a family with such a

critical situation.

WE ARE LIVING A NOMADIC LIFE IN A DIFFERENT CITY,AS A TENANT,THOUGH WE HAVE OUR

OWN HOME BUT WE CANNOT GO THERE TOGETHER.

When will we return our home happily back again?

Best Regards

Ashish.

sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary wrote:

>

> Hare Rama KRishna

> Dear Rafal,

> Just for interest(and curiousity) I took the change of the navamsa lagna to 6

minutes,(instead of your 7 minutes to the later sign)

> see previous post

>

> This puts retro Saturn(the co-lord of 7th) in navamsa lagna-

> Saturn would give delays in getting married, and if we use vimshottari dasa

she was in Saturn/Jupiter when she was married.

> Now,

> Saturn is co-lord of Ul in Rasi, Jupiter is having argala,

> AND if we make this adjustment,in navamsa lagna , Saturn will be in navamsa

lagna and Jupiter is in the 7th!

> Rahus influence ont he 2nd from navamsa lagna would show the controversy and

social scandal involved-he is also co-lord 7th house.

>

> Of course if she has been previously married I take back everything ive said,

I am reading this as first marriage as more or less presented in the original

query.

> Best wishes

> Lakshmi

>

> sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@> wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama KRishna

> > Dear Rafal,

> > If the 2nd from UL shows what supports and breaks a marriage,

> > and Jupiter is there in this chart as the binding principle, whether it

represents children or tradition, or money.

> > We cant overlook the influence of Venus as well.

> > Jupiter it AK and Venus is DK.!

> > As Far as I am aware, we arent looking for whether Jupiter is a friend or

not to lagna , we are looking to see what influences are having argala onto UL.

> >

> > If the marriage is to break as you say due to extra marital affairs, then

there should be influence of Rahu, and such on the 2nd from UL.

> > Now are you assuming that the native or the spouse would be the one to due

this? my point is I dont think it is wise to mess around with the navamsa chart

unless you can clearly see something indicated in rasi.

> > You said " if you move it 7 minutes lagna changes " , but it also changes the

other way at 6 minutes!

> >

> > Before you make some big moves to navamsa- where do you see a tendancy or

potential for this in the natives RASI chart.?

> >

> > also , did you notice the transit of Jupiter coming up?

> >

> > In regards to dasa choice, I think Vimshottari is a better choice to use as

there are many planets in kendra to MOON.

> > with regards and looking forward to your reply you need a more convincing

argument to sway me.

> > Lakshmi

> >

> > sohamsa , RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > >

> > > *klim krishna klim*

> > > Dear Lakshmi

> > >

> > > Such Guru is normally good, but not for Rahu/Kumbha rasi. If its 1st

> > > marriage then if we move forward 7 minutes then 8th in D9 have

> > > Shukra-Rahu yoga which shows extramaritial problems.

> > >

> > > Last part of Budha mahadasa (Dvisaptati) belongs to strength and

> > > nicaamsa avastha brings many stressful situation and seperation (Budha

> > > is in vayu rasi in D9). Mercury dasa is challenging for

> > > Navami tithi (being rejected by family/community) and is ending soon.

> > > Current AD is of Mars which gives effect of Moon (Navamsa parivartana)

> > > and being in 12th with Rahu doesn't bode well. Åšakti yoga aspects Mangal

> > > (7th lord) which is rejected by Atmakaraka (marana karaka sthana). These

> > > are also in Visakha nakÅ›atra which is Utpata (100% significator Rahu,

> > > the good point is friendly sambandha with Vara which is Sanivar). Rahu

> > > is lord of Upapada and 4th house so the problems are occuring now

> > > (Candra AD).

> > >

> > > Worship of Durga (especially Puja) would be the remedy based on the

> > > traditional advise.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Vedic Astrologer of SJC

> > > http://rohinaa.com/

> > > /rgendarz@/

> > >

> > > lakshmikary pisze:

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama KRishna

> > > > Dear Ashish,

> > > > IS your sister happy? Is her husband taking good care of her?

> > > > Im trying to understand the situation and what you are asking.

> > > > I assume you are saying society around you is givign your family a

> > > > hard time due to the unconventional marriage, and social status of the

> > > > husband.?If so I doubt things would improve for your family if she

> > > > divorces.

> > > > However, her marriage looks be strong from the chart.

> > > > Ok, if I have the chart right- using an older version of jh , so

> > > > double check it.

> > > > I have scorpio rising with UL in aquarius,

> > > > either way aquarius has 2 lords both with some negative elements, plus

> > > > UL is aspected by Rahu, so chart appears to be correct, I dont know

> > > > about the navamsa so, i leave it out of equation.

> > > > Point-

> > > > Second from UL shows what supports or breaks marriages,

> > > > plus you have to look at other things to confirm.

> > > > The thing that stands out in your sisters chart -is that Jupiter is in

> > > > PISCES , his own sign in the 2nd from the UL in the 5th house of love

> > > > affairs..

> > > > The second from UL ISNT aspected by any malefics, in fact it has

> > > > aspect also from Venus.Pretty nice benefical Karmic influences

> > > > SUPPORTing this marriage.

> > > > In summary, I hope there is some way this gets resolved so your family

> > > > can be happy and ok, but it looks like this marriage of your sister

> > > > was strongly destined.If I didnt understand your question, please

> > > > rephase it.

> > > > best wishes

> > > > LAkshmi

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>,

> > > > " Ashish " <bondmerama@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Sanjay ji,Lakshmi ji,Sarjit ji.

> > > > >

> > > > > >> Namaskar.

> > > > > >> Below happens to be the birth details of my elder sister.Her

> > > > chart is

> > > > > >> an example of secert Love Marriage in 2007,with disreputation in

> > > > > >> society after marriage.Also rejection by our family,followed by

> > > > separation

> > > > > >> distancing,the marriage happens to be a person of very low

status,in

> > > > > >> terms of caste and financial.

> > > > > >> What is the future of this marriage,bocz divorce likely in her

chart.

> > > > > >> UL lord Shani(Happens to be sorrowful for her).in A7 .

> > > > > >> Sister elder than her partner by two years.

> > > > > >> This is tough situation for our family.

> > > > > >> Is a rescue indication???

> > > > > >> Kindly Guide if possible.with astrological reasons of such a

> > > > incident.

> > > > > >> DOB 25 jan 1976.

> > > > > >> TOB 2:35 am.

> > > > > >> Place :Lucknow

> > > > > >> Country:India.

> > > > > >>KINDLY GUIDE WHAT STEP WE SHOULD TAKE,MORE THAN 3 YRS HAVE

> > > > PASSED,WITH NO DECISION.

> > > > > WHOLE LOT OF TENSIONS IN FAMILY ARE BECAUSE OF ABOVE EVENT

> > > > > best regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Ashish .

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 20, 2010

Respected Rafal Ji,

Namaskar.

It was 1st of february 2007 time around 12-2pm.,Lucknow

We left city on 15 March 2007, 6:30 pm.,Lucknow

People who attended and performed the marriage were unknown to us,few were from

Institute.

This was confirmed by the photographs and CD made there and handed over to us,as

proof.

Was black magic used in all this?.

We suspect lot of crimial behaviour in the whole act,it wasn't at all pleasing

to hear the way everything was inacted,ie. through misguidance,threats etc.

We have lost trust for sister,and till now also we cannot trust her and leave

her alone.My sister is firm in her choice and doesn't feel that she has done

anything wrong and done the right act.

What is the future for our family.?

Best Regards

Ashish

sohamsa , RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> *klim krishna klim*

> Dear Ashish

>

> 1st of 2007, you mean January 2007 or what was the month?

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Vedic Astrologer of SJC

> http://rohinaa.com/

> /rgendarz

> /

>

> Ashish pisze:

> >

> > Respected Rafal Ji and Lakshmi Ji,

> > Namaskar.

> > The complete picture is as follows.

> > My elder sister used to teach in a computer institute where she had

> > fallen in love with a fellow student,the affair as told by her started

> > in 2005,and on 1st 2007,she got married in a run-away situation from

> > her institute for few hours,with the support of office collegues,and

> > returned back.We had no knowledge about all this when a 3rd person

> > informed us,and it was too late then.We were much sacred about the

> > defamation in family,so we along with my sister and parents left the

> > city and moved to Bangalore.Her marriage was unregistered.

> > Since 2007-till 2010 now,we wished that she would change her

> > mind.Reasons-the person she has married,we have never met,nor talked.

> > Some astrologers at that time told us that it was a Tantric trap,by

> > the group on my sister.,but the truth is that she is very much

> > attached to the person.

> > We have no idea what to do,because marriage in such situations can be

> > very exploitive,because it was done in antisocial way.

> > So currently since past 3 yrs,me my sister and parents are all staying

> > under one roof,unknowing what to do.There is a complete criss-cross

> > situation within 4 of us.

> > Since the person she has chosen is not properly settled in education

> > or professional it makes a tough choice to accept,just on basis of

> > love,even we donot know whether it is true from both sides.

> > Please guide,what exactly we can do because my parents are worried

> > about my marriage also,I am 31 now.They cannot do that also nor can I

> > without the sister life getting properly settled.No one would wish to

> > marry in a family with such a critical situation.

> > WE ARE LIVING A NOMADIC LIFE IN A DIFFERENT CITY,AS A TENANT,THOUGH WE

> > HAVE OUR OWN HOME BUT WE CANNOT GO THERE TOGETHER.

> > When will we return our home happily back again?

> > Best Regards

> > Ashish.

> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>,

> > " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare Rama KRishna

> > > Dear Rafal,

> > > Just for interest(and curiousity) I took the change of the navamsa

> > lagna to 6 minutes,(instead of your 7 minutes to the later sign)

> > > see previous post

> > >

> > > This puts retro Saturn(the co-lord of 7th) in navamsa lagna-

> > > Saturn would give delays in getting married, and if we use

> > vimshottari dasa she was in Saturn/Jupiter when she was married.

> > > Now,

> > > Saturn is co-lord of Ul in Rasi, Jupiter is having argala,

> > > AND if we make this adjustment,in navamsa lagna , Saturn will be in

> > navamsa lagna and Jupiter is in the 7th!

> > > Rahus influence ont he 2nd from navamsa lagna would show the

> > controversy and social scandal involved-he is also co-lord 7th house.

> > >

> > > Of course if she has been previously married I take back everything

> > ive said, I am reading this as first marriage as more or less

> > presented in the original query.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Lakshmi

> > >

> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>,

> > " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama KRishna

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > If the 2nd from UL shows what supports and breaks a marriage,

> > > > and Jupiter is there in this chart as the binding principle,

> > whether it represents children or tradition, or money.

> > > > We cant overlook the influence of Venus as well.

> > > > Jupiter it AK and Venus is DK.!

> > > > As Far as I am aware, we arent looking for whether Jupiter is a

> > friend or not to lagna , we are looking to see what influences are

> > having argala onto UL.

> > > >

> > > > If the marriage is to break as you say due to extra marital

> > affairs, then there should be influence of Rahu, and such on the 2nd

> > from UL.

> > > > Now are you assuming that the native or the spouse would be the

> > one to due this? my point is I dont think it is wise to mess around

> > with the navamsa chart unless you can clearly see something indicated

> > in rasi.

> > > > You said " if you move it 7 minutes lagna changes " , but it also

> > changes the other way at 6 minutes!

> > > >

> > > > Before you make some big moves to navamsa- where do you see a

> > tendancy or potential for this in the natives RASI chart.?

> > > >

> > > > also , did you notice the transit of Jupiter coming up?

> > > >

> > > > In regards to dasa choice, I think Vimshottari is a better choice

> > to use as there are many planets in kendra to MOON.

> > > > with regards and looking forward to your reply you need a more

> > convincing argument to sway me.

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>,

> > RafaÃ…â€š Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *klim krishna klim*

> > > > > Dear Lakshmi

> > > > >

> > > > > Such Guru is normally good, but not for Rahu/Kumbha rasi. If its

> > 1st

> > > > > marriage then if we move forward 7 minutes then 8th in D9 have

> > > > > Shukra-Rahu yoga which shows extramaritial problems.

> > > > >

> > > > > Last part of Budha mahadasa (Dvisaptati) belongs to strength and

> > > > > nicaamsa avastha brings many stressful situation and seperation

> > (Budha

> > > > > is in vayu rasi in D9). Mercury dasa is challenging for

> > > > > Navami tithi (being rejected by family/community) and is ending

> > soon.

> > > > > Current AD is of Mars which gives effect of Moon (Navamsa

> > parivartana)

> > > > > and being in 12th with Rahu doesn't bode well. Ã…Å¡akti yoga

> > aspects Mangal

> > > > > (7th lord) which is rejected by Atmakaraka (marana karaka

> > sthana). These

> > > > > are also in Visakha nakÃ…â€ºatra which is Utpata (100% significator

> > Rahu,

> > > > > the good point is friendly sambandha with Vara which is

> > Sanivar). Rahu

> > > > > is lord of Upapada and 4th house so the problems are occuring now

> > > > > (Candra AD).

> > > > >

> > > > > Worship of Durga (especially Puja) would be the remedy based on the

> > > > > traditional advise.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > Vedic Astrologer of SJC

> > > > > http://rohinaa.com/ <http://rohinaa.com/>

> > > > > /rgendarz@/

> > > > >

> > > > > lakshmikary pisze:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama KRishna

> > > > > > Dear Ashish,

> > > > > > IS your sister happy? Is her husband taking good care of her?

> > > > > > Im trying to understand the situation and what you are asking.

> > > > > > I assume you are saying society around you is givign your

> > family a

> > > > > > hard time due to the unconventional marriage, and social

> > status of the

> > > > > > husband.?If so I doubt things would improve for your family if

> > she

> > > > > > divorces.

> > > > > > However, her marriage looks be strong from the chart.

> > > > > > Ok, if I have the chart right- using an older version of jh , so

> > > > > > double check it.

> > > > > > I have scorpio rising with UL in aquarius,

> > > > > > either way aquarius has 2 lords both with some negative

> > elements, plus

> > > > > > UL is aspected by Rahu, so chart appears to be correct, I dont

> > know

> > > > > > about the navamsa so, i leave it out of equation.

> > > > > > Point-

> > > > > > Second from UL shows what supports or breaks marriages,

> > > > > > plus you have to look at other things to confirm.

> > > > > > The thing that stands out in your sisters chart -is that

> > Jupiter is in

> > > > > > PISCES , his own sign in the 2nd from the UL in the 5th house

> > of love

> > > > > > affairs..

> > > > > > The second from UL ISNT aspected by any malefics, in fact it has

> > > > > > aspect also from Venus.Pretty nice benefical Karmic influences

> > > > > > SUPPORTing this marriage.

> > > > > > In summary, I hope there is some way this gets resolved so

> > your family

> > > > > > can be happy and ok, but it looks like this marriage of your

> > sister

> > > > > > was strongly destined.If I didnt understand your question, please

> > > > > > rephase it.

> > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > LAkshmi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa

> > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%40>,

> > > > > > " Ashish " <bondmerama@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Sanjay ji,Lakshmi ji,Sarjit ji.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >> Namaskar.

> > > > > > > >> Below happens to be the birth details of my elder sister.Her

> > > > > > chart is

> > > > > > > >> an example of secert Love Marriage in 2007,with

> > disreputation in

> > > > > > > >> society after marriage.Also rejection by our

> > family,followed by

> > > > > > separation

> > > > > > > >> distancing,the marriage happens to be a person of very

> > low status,in

> > > > > > > >> terms of caste and financial.

> > > > > > > >> What is the future of this marriage,bocz divorce likely

> > in her chart.

> > > > > > > >> UL lord Shani(Happens to be sorrowful for her).in A7 .

> > > > > > > >> Sister elder than her partner by two years.

> > > > > > > >> This is tough situation for our family.

> > > > > > > >> Is a rescue indication???

> > > > > > > >> Kindly Guide if possible.with astrological reasons of such a

> > > > > > incident.

> > > > > > > >> DOB 25 jan 1976.

> > > > > > > >> TOB 2:35 am.

> > > > > > > >> Place :Lucknow

> > > > > > > >> Country:India.

> > > > > > > >>KINDLY GUIDE WHAT STEP WE SHOULD TAKE,MORE THAN 3 YRS HAVE

> > > > > > PASSED,WITH NO DECISION.

> > > > > > > WHOLE LOT OF TENSIONS IN FAMILY ARE BECAUSE OF ABOVE EVENT

> > > > > > > best regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ashish .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 21, 2010

Respected Rafal ji and Lakshmi Ji,

Namaskar.

Kindly provide a final conclusion of the all disscussion,

Q)How exactly will be her married life and future?Will happier times be back for

her and family?