Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Dear Friends. The effect of Saturn's 3rd aspect is in discussion for some time. The following factors may be considered: !. basically Saturn is Karka of hard work , foresight and Karma. 2. Saturn's full aspect fall on 3rd and 10th house besides 7H. 4. The 3h and 10H fall in the category of Upachaya houses. This is the main reason for the famous dictum that: " Sthan vriddhi karo Shani " I.E. the Saturn lifts the material signification of the house in which it is placed , because it is aspecting two upachaya houses simultaneously.. 5. Besides this , the house is benefited when 3rd house from it is in malefic influence ( because Malefic planets or influence on 3rd house generate beneficial Argala ). This is the reason that 3rd aspect bring auspicious effects on the house in which Saturn is placed (and not the house aspected by Saturn by third aspect). Regards, G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 thank you goel ji for clearing this.I always used to wonder. so simple. best regards,anu, On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > > Dear Friends. > The effect of Saturn's 3rd aspect is in discussion for some > time. The following factors may be considered: > !. basically Saturn is Karka of hard work , foresight and Karma. > 2. Saturn's full aspect fall on 3rd and 10th house besides 7H. > 4. The 3h and 10H fall in the category of Upachaya houses. > This is the main reason for the famous dictum that: > " Sthan vriddhi karo Shani " > I.E. the Saturn lifts the material signification of the house in > which it is placed , because it is aspecting two upachaya houses > simultaneously.. > 5. Besides this , the house is benefited when 3rd house from > it is in malefic influence ( because Malefic planets or influence > on 3rd house generate beneficial Argala ). This is the reason > that 3rd aspect bring auspicious effects on the house in which > Saturn is placed (and not the house aspected by Saturn > by third aspect). > Regards, > > G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Dear Goel, Even when the rule is clear, it*s hard to genera- lize it.  Like 4)  The 3h and 10H fall in the category of Upachaya houses. This is the main reason for the famous dictum that: " Sthan vriddhi karo Shani " I.E. the Saturn lifts the material signification of the house in which it is placed , because it is aspecting two upachaya houses simultaneously. .Let me add IFF For this rule to be applicable, Saturn must be poorly placed in good house -/with Ta Li Lagna exception/- which do not welcome malefics. Upachayas always get some benefits from malefics, either in rashi or transit. Hardly any good could be expected if Sa -nicely placed in 3rd rashi, casts transit third aspect to Moon in fifth. Etc...  Although I believe that Sa sextile Moon in rashi does bring some stamina,stability, to the chart -particularly to crazy wondering moon,  I cannot think of any positive side of transit repetition of this natal config. To be more specific, in my case it brought bad health: twice, since I ve been *lucky enough* to have lived long enough- to have it doubled. Strangely, Sa over my Cn Lg is pretty good /onlySAV supports-  My 2ct Anna  --- On Wed, 4/21/10, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn's third aspect sohamsa Cc: astrologyandremedies , vedic astrology Received: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 2:12 AM  Dear Friends. The effect of Saturn's 3rd aspect is in discussion for some time. The following factors may be considered: !. basically Saturn is Karka of hard work , foresight and Karma. 2. Saturn's full aspect fall on 3rd and 10th house besides 7H. 4. The 3h and 10H fall in the category of Upachaya houses. This is the main reason for the famous dictum that: " Sthan vriddhi karo Shani " I.E. the Saturn lifts the material signification of the house in which it is placed , because it is aspecting two upachaya houses simultaneously. . 5. Besides this , the house is benefited when 3rd house from it is in malefic influence ( because Malefic planets or influence on 3rd house generate beneficial Argala ). This is the reason that 3rd aspect bring auspicious effects on the house in which Saturn is placed (and not the house aspected by Saturn by third aspect). Regards, G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 || Jai Jagannath || Respected Goelji, We respect all ppl who are disciple or student of Revered Sanjay ji. I read your mails very curiously and those are really very knowledgeable piece. It gives me alot pleasure when i find you student of Respected Sanjayji. Shri Goelji, one thing i want to add, Bhattacharjyaji was saying right that you were mixing 2 things that is Argala and Aspect, kindly reread BPHS. Hope it helps. With alot respect of you and forumites, Yours,Dinesh --- On Fri, 23/4/10, S S B <biradar.s.sunilkumar wrote: S S B <biradar.s.sunilkumarRE: [soHamsa] RE; Saturn's third aspectsohamsa Date: Friday, 23 April, 2010, 12:48 PM Dear Gopalji,You are highly regarded ,respected member of this forum and your knowledge is very vast.This forum needs peoples like you and your knowladge.As you mentioned if a person is not agreeing with others view than he should express his disagreement in polite way.Astrologer' s has to have humble nature.Simply fighting and showing dissent is not at all good for this forum.RegardsS S B sohamsa@ .comCC: astrologyandremedie s ; vedic astrologygkgoel1937 (AT) (DOT) co.inFri, 23 Apr 2010 16:14:30 +0530[soHamsa] RE; Saturn's third aspect Dear Friends,It looks Mr.BHATTACHARYYJI did not appreciated my observationson the above subject. He even brought a person in the picture who is trying to befoul the people because he has Rahu in Lagna.Thanks God that I do not have Rahu in my Lagna.A house gets an auspicious argla when third house from it in malefic influence. This is an independent principle which alwayswork. Take the case of Indra Gandhi , Sonia Gandhi ,Advaniji ,Atal Bihari , and Many others.this will show the strength in my observations.As regards , if Saturn is placed in 3H , one learned savant hadalready given its affects in the group mail.The aspects are of many kinds and its is a subject of independent study.The special full aspects of three outer planets are great significance in vedic astrology particularly for the follwing reasons ( I am not revealing any new thing but only restating it):1. They generate 'Sambandha' to form yogas. 2. At some time or other , these three planets are able to connect any two planets placed in different houses in natal chart during transit. I.E. suppose Mars is in 12H and Saturn in 11H , Mars during its transit in natal 5H will connect them by its 7th and8th aspect. Argala as well as upachaya are very potential tools for prediction ,I will prepare a paper and post for the critical analysis of savants.Dear Bhattachryji , if we say some thing which is not in agreementwith your understanding , kindly do not get angry. we are exchangingour views in this international forum to learn and not fight witheach other.With best wishes, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA All the post budget analysis and implications Sign up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 || Jai Jagannath || Dear Lakshmiji, Sadar Pranams ! I really love to read your posts. I need your inputs on following lines as I am preparing one article so would like to whip off some lines of that article over here just to gather your holy views. Classics say that when Ju used to be in second house, person gives good advices even to unwarranted ppl - to his enemies and he upholds truth and fight for Dharma and gives food to many and yes it really works. He helps struggling King in restoring his kingdom and reinstating law order. If Su and Ma are also fantastic – he also inculcates virtues of Kshatriya - then person himself becomes Senapati (Captain of legion). True example is Indian Glorious Chanakya. Apropos, Ju being retro, does just reverse – it produces one of the greatest liar. If Sa also becomes AK and aspect second house where exalted Ju( R) sits - it snowballs the problem of lying. Same Ju ( R), if also goes with Ra in D-9, no help ! : Holy sanctimonious look of the native. Person takes plunge – nose-dive - from his/her sacred Dharma at correct invocations by transits and VMD. Anyway I would like to stop stoning the crows over here. Now, Ju is about to enter in trine to Cancer, native should remain very cautious as fall time is going to start. Respected Lakshmi ji, kindly give your views on above lines; hope I am not queering pitch. With great respect for you and forumites. Yours, Dinesh sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > Dear Dinesh, > PLease post the birth detials(BUT NEVER INCLUDE THE PERSONS REAL NAME) if you want an answer- > Its not good to make such dramatic remarks about something that might not be the case at all. > Best wishes > Lakshmi > > > sohamsa , Dinesh Dheengra <dineshdheengra@> wrote: > > > > Respected Gurujans, > > Â > > Sadar Pranam ! > > Â > > Let me correct one mistake in the drafted mail, i am really very sorry for the mistake. > > Â > > // > > His Ve is with Ra and Ve is in exchange with Me and Ve, i have heard that when Ve come in contact with Ve then it makes one person very immoral and it is also with Ra here and in exchange with Agni tatva Su. > > // > > Â > > His Ve is with Ra and Ve is in exchange with Me(element of making oneimmoral) and Su(Fire element), i have heard that when Ve come in contact with Me then it makes one person very immoral as it doesnt douse the hunger of one's desire of having sex and it is also with Ra here. > > Â > > His 9'th lord is deb and with Sa and Ju being deb is also aspected by Ma so i think he may have killing attitude towards real gurus but i think he will have to pay for the same as in 7'th Sa is there and Ma is aspecting and 7'th stands for opponennts. So opponents of him would be very insurmountable. > > Â > > Kindly enlighten me more on those details. > > Â > > Mr Sunil had written about deb Ju and afflictd Ve with Ra so i thought to produce the following details. > > > > Warmest Regards, > > Dinesh > > > > > > --- On Wed, 21/4/10, dineshdheengra <dineshdheengra@> wrote: > > > > > > dineshdheengra <dineshdheengra@> > > [soHamsa] Re: Saturn's third aspect > > sohamsa > > Wednesday, 21 April, 2010, 6:45 PM > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > Sadar Pranam! > > > > I have heard too much about Sanjayji and I have also read many articles of Respected Sanjayji, iwanted to attend upcoming conference of Sanjayji at New Yoork, kindly guide me for the same. > > > > Kindly let me know about the following details, it is one of my friends. > > > > His Ju is Deb and Sa is also there, i read that it is very bad when Ju used to be with Sa as person kills his own Guru. > > > > His Ve is with Ra and Ve is in exchange with Me and Ve, i have heard that when Ve come in contact with Ve then it makes one person very immoral and it is also with Ra here and in exchange with Agni tatva Su. > > > > Ra+ Ve is in second house so i am sure that he should have some extra-marital affairs. > > > > Kindly shed the light as Mr Sunilji said some about Ra+ Ve and Ju deb in a chart. > > > > Oct 10,1961 (Tue) > > 01:26:31 AM > > Tiruchchirapalli - India > > > > Warmest Regards, > > Dinesh > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Sam Sivaskandan <samsivaskandan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > ||Om Namo Narayanaya|| > > > > > > Namaste Mr. Sunil, > > > > > > Like many in this forum, I am here to discuss and learn about Vedic > > > Astrology per the parampara of Pandit Sanjayji whom I have never met, > > > but know only through reading his books and listening to his voice in > > > his mp3 lectures. > > > > > > Your very disrespectful and unprofessional messages to many in this > > > forum are a poor choice for a person who otherwise appears > > > knowledgeable and capable of offering much to this forum by way of > > > your insights into vedic astrology. > > > > > > Your message especially to Lakshmiji (a lady) was deeply troubling and > > > in very poor taste. Your subsequent apology was even poorer than your > > > original message. Hindu tradition and culture as taught to me in a > > > south indian brahmin family is certainly not what you are practising > > > in this forum. This forum has many foreign born people who put me to > > > shame in the way they have grasped and practise vedic culture, hindu > > > philosophy and tradition. We all would do well to follow their > > > example. > > > > > > I have held back writing to you and a few others in this forum who > > > have a total disregard for basic human respect and courtesy. But then > > > by not giving you direct feedback, we have to give you the benefit of > > > the doubt that you are unaware of your condescending and > > > confrontational behavior (especially without provocation) . You have > > > received feedback directly from a couple of others. Please add this > > > feedback to that list. Most people here welcome a healthy debate. > > > Please " disagree " freely without " being disagreeable " . > > > > > > Thanks very much for your listening, understanding and support. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Somnath > > > > > > On 4/21/10, sunilbhattacharjya@ ... > > > <sunilbhattacharjya wrote: > > > > // Besides this , the house is benefited when 3rd house from > > > > it is in malefic influence ( because Malefic planets or influence > > > > on 3rd house generate beneficial Argala ). This is the reason > > > > that 3rd aspect bring auspicious effects on the house in which > > > > Saturn is placed (and not the house aspected by Saturn > > > > by third aspect). > > > > // > > > > > > > > Is above thing correct? > > > > > > > > Argala and aspect can be juxtaposed? When aspect works and when argala?, > > > > have you any streak of idea ? Why deb Ju of 5'th and Ra in Lagna are making > > > > fool out of the ppl openly? > > > > > > > > Be careful Deb Ju can't win in front of exalted Ju & exalted Ve combo - both > > > > Brahmins of highest order as stated in classics - as it exposes worst > > > > concoction freely because of pollination of wisdom all around. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Dear Friends. > > > >> The effect of Saturn's 3rd aspect is in discussion for some > > > >> time. The following factors may be considered: > > > >> !. basically Saturn is Karka of hard work , foresight and Karma. > > > >> 2. Saturn's full aspect fall on 3rd and 10th house besides 7H. > > > >> 4. The 3h and 10H fall in the category of Upachaya houses. > > > >> This is the main reason for the famous dictum that: > > > >> " Sthan vriddhi karo Shani " > > > >> I.E. the Saturn lifts the material signification of the house in > > > >> which it is placed , because it is aspecting two upachaya houses > > > >> simultaneously. . > > > >> 5. Besides this , the house is benefited when 3rd house from > > > >> it is in malefic influence ( because Malefic planets or influence > > > >> on 3rd house generate beneficial Argala ). This is the reason > > > >> that 3rd aspect bring auspicious effects on the house in which > > > >> Saturn is placed (and not the house aspected by Saturn > > > >> by third aspect). > > > >> Regards, > > > >> > > > >> G.K.GOEL > > > >> Ph: 09350311433 > > > >> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > >> NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > >> INDIA > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Dinesh,, Well I have a chart for you to study that fits your discription. Although, Im not quite sure what you wanted me to comment on- did you want me to confirm these are combinations for a liar? One thing for sure- You cant take what you read in the classics at face value. All astro combination have to be assessed from all angles.There are always mitagating factors. You also have to keep time, place and circumstance into consideration. Very few people are riding around on palaquins,elephants,... but many drive mercedes and bmws etc Really the whole chart needs to be studied, because otherwise you can make some very bad mistakes. (And before you can study a chart you need to know it is the correct chart so students should try to learn as many clues to recification as possible to ensure you have the right picture.) THEN you have to remember that God can change anyones karma as he sees fit.SO dont ever get so confident that you forget that the Supreme Personality of Godhead is in control of everything. Before you read ANY chart always pray for vision and guidance. So if you like study this chart and I will tell you where you are right on and where you are wrong, and I will tell you why.As you can see Saturn is AK,Jupiter is exalted ,retro grade in rasi and with Rahu in the navamsa, so according to classics you quote person should be a liar. Or maybe that isnt the case?What do you think. With best wishes Lakshmi Natal Chart md woman January 15, 1955 Time: 5:16:57 pm Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 96 W 22' 00 " , 30 N 40' 00 " Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Jaya - Pushya Tithi: Krishna Ashtami (Ra) (46.01% left) Vedic Weekday: Saturday (Sa) Nakshatra: Chitra (Ma) (32.78% left) Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (94.14% left) Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (92.03% left) Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Vi) Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Ge) Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Venus) Sunrise: 7:24:52 am Sunset: 5:45:57 pm Janma Ghatis: 24.6700 Ayanamsa: 23-14-01.97 Sidereal Time: 0:29:5 Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 26 Ge 29' 54.42 " Puna 2 Ge Ta Sun - GK 1 Cp 49' 05.74 " USha 2 Cp Cp Moon - PK 2 Li 17' 47.86 " Chit 3 Li Li Mars - PiK 7 Pi 19' 54.69 " UBha 2 Pi Vi Mercury - MK 15 Cp 04' 37.75 " Srav 2 Cp Ta Jupiter ® - DK 1 Cn 39' 06.79 " Puna 4 Cn Cn Venus - BK 15 Sc 21' 19.93 " Anu 4 Sc Sc Saturn - AK 26 Li 18' 49.54 " Visa 2 Li Ta Rahu - AmK 11 Sg 23' 52.56 " Mool 4 Sg Cn Ketu 11 Ge 23' 52.56 " Ardr 2 Ge Cp Maandi 11 Cp 22' 01.14 " Srav 1 Cp Ar Gulika 0 Cp 33' 37.30 " USha 2 Cp Cp Uranus ® 2 Cn 27' 06.73 " Puna 4 Cn Cn Neptune 4 Li 57' 11.70 " Chit 4 Li Sc Pluto ® 3 Le 01' 59.12 " Magh 1 Le Ar Bhava Lagna 29 Ta 25' 10.43 " Mrig 2 Ta Vi Hora Lagna 27 Li 26' 22.70 " Visa 3 Li Ge Ghati Lagna 21 Cp 29' 59.53 " Srav 4 Cp Cn Vighati Lagna 21 Pi 48' 03.64 " Reva 2 Pi Cp Varnada Lagna 26 Cp 29' 54.42 " Aswi 1 Cp Le Sree Lagna 28 Aq 30' 26.69 " PBha 3 Aq Ge Pranapada Lagna 22 Pi 13' 11.23 " Reva 2 Pi Cp Rasi +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ JuR / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Ke \ / | | \ / \ / | |AL x As x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 3 / \ | | / \ / \ | | x Ma | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |HL \ / \ / | |Mo Sa x Ra x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / Md Gk \ | | / Ve \ / Su \ | | / \ / Me GL \ | +--------------+ Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Mars Mars 1950-05-01 Rah 1950-10-01 Jup 1951-10-19 Sat 1952-09-24 Merc 1953-11-03 Ket 1954-10-31 Ven 1955-03-26 Sun 1956-05-26 Moon 1956-10-04 Rah Rah 1957-05-01 Jup 1960-01-13 Sat 1962-06-08 Merc 1965-04-13 Ket 1967-11-04 Ven 1968-11-21 Sun 1971-11-21 Moon 1972-10-16 Mars 1974-04-13 Jup Jup 1975-05-02 Sat 1977-06-20 Merc 1980-01-02 Ket 1982-04-07 Ven 1983-03-14 Sun 1985-11-15 Moon 1986-09-03 Mars 1988-01-02 Rah 1988-12-09 Sat Sat 1991-05-02 Merc 1994-05-05 Ket 1997-01-13 Ven 1998-02-21 Sun 2001-04-22 Moon 2002-04-04 Mars 2003-11-07 Rah 2004-12-15 Jup 2007-10-23 Merc Merc 2010-05-02 Ket 2012-10-01 Ven 2013-09-28 Sun 2016-07-28 Moon 2017-06-01 Mars 2018-11-04 Rah 2019-11-01 Jup 2022-05-17 Sat 2024-08-25 Ket Ket 2027-05-02 Ven 2027-10-02 Sun 2028-11-30 Moon 2029-04-04 Mars 2029-11-06 Rah 2030-04-01 Jup 2031-04-20 Sat 2032-03-25 Merc 2033-05-05 sohamsa , " dineshdheengra " <dineshdheengra wrote: > > || Jai Jagannath || > > Dear Lakshmiji, > > Sadar Pranams ! > > I really love to read your posts. I need your inputs on following lines as I am preparing one article so would like to whip off some lines of that article over here just to gather your holy views. > > Classics say that when Ju used to be in second house, person gives good advices even to unwarranted ppl - to his enemies and he upholds truth and fight for Dharma and gives food to many and yes it really works. He helps struggling King in restoring his kingdom and reinstating law order. If Su and Ma are also fantastic – he also inculcates virtues of Kshatriya - then person himself becomes Senapati (Captain of legion). True example is Indian Glorious Chanakya. > > Apropos, Ju being retro, does just reverse – it produces one of the greatest liar. If Sa also becomes AK and aspect second house where exalted Ju( R) sits - it snowballs the problem of lying. Same Ju ( R), if also goes with Ra in D-9, no help ! : Holy sanctimonious look of the native. Person takes plunge – nose-dive - from his/her sacred Dharma at correct invocations by transits and VMD. Anyway I would like to stop stoning the crows over here. > > Now, Ju is about to enter in trine to Cancer, native should remain very cautious as fall time is going to start. > > Respected Lakshmi ji, kindly give your views on above lines; hope I am not queering pitch. > > With great respect for you and forumites. > > Yours, > Dinesh > > sohamsa , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@> wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Dinesh, > > PLease post the birth detials(BUT NEVER INCLUDE THE PERSONS REAL NAME) if you want an answer- > > Its not good to make such dramatic remarks about something that might not be the case at all. > > Best wishes > > Lakshmi > > > > > > sohamsa , Dinesh Dheengra <dineshdheengra@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Gurujans, > > > Â > > > Sadar Pranam ! > > > Â > > > Let me correct one mistake in the drafted mail, i am really very sorry for the mistake. > > > Â > > > // > > > His Ve is with Ra and Ve is in exchange with Me and Ve, i have heard that when Ve come in contact with Ve then it makes one person very immoral and it is also with Ra here and in exchange with Agni tatva Su. > > > // > > > Â > > > His Ve is with Ra and Ve is in exchange with Me(element of making oneimmoral) and Su(Fire element), i have heard that when Ve come in contact with Me then it makes one person very immoral as it doesnt douse the hunger of one's desire of having sex and it is also with Ra here. > > > Â > > > His 9'th lord is deb and with Sa and Ju being deb is also aspected by Ma so i think he may have killing attitude towards real gurus but i think he will have to pay for the same as in 7'th Sa is there and Ma is aspecting and 7'th stands for opponennts. So opponents of him would be very insurmountable. > > > Â > > > Kindly enlighten me more on those details. > > > Â > > > Mr Sunil had written about deb Ju and afflictd Ve with Ra so i thought to produce the following details. > > > > > > Warmest Regards, > > > Dinesh > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 21/4/10, dineshdheengra <dineshdheengra@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > dineshdheengra <dineshdheengra@> > > > [soHamsa] Re: Saturn's third aspect > > > sohamsa > > > Wednesday, 21 April, 2010, 6:45 PM > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sirs, > > > Sadar Pranam! > > > > > > I have heard too much about Sanjayji and I have also read many articles of Respected Sanjayji, iwanted to attend upcoming conference of Sanjayji at New Yoork, kindly guide me for the same. > > > > > > Kindly let me know about the following details, it is one of my friends. > > > > > > His Ju is Deb and Sa is also there, i read that it is very bad when Ju used to be with Sa as person kills his own Guru. > > > > > > His Ve is with Ra and Ve is in exchange with Me and Ve, i have heard that when Ve come in contact with Ve then it makes one person very immoral and it is also with Ra here and in exchange with Agni tatva Su. > > > > > > Ra+ Ve is in second house so i am sure that he should have some extra-marital affairs. > > > > > > Kindly shed the light as Mr Sunilji said some about Ra+ Ve and Ju deb in a chart. > > > > > > Oct 10,1961 (Tue) > > > 01:26:31 AM > > > Tiruchchirapalli - India > > > > > > Warmest Regards, > > > Dinesh > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Sam Sivaskandan <samsivaskandan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > ||Om Namo Narayanaya|| > > > > > > > > Namaste Mr. Sunil, > > > > > > > > Like many in this forum, I am here to discuss and learn about Vedic > > > > Astrology per the parampara of Pandit Sanjayji whom I have never met, > > > > but know only through reading his books and listening to his voice in > > > > his mp3 lectures. > > > > > > > > Your very disrespectful and unprofessional messages to many in this > > > > forum are a poor choice for a person who otherwise appears > > > > knowledgeable and capable of offering much to this forum by way of > > > > your insights into vedic astrology. > > > > > > > > Your message especially to Lakshmiji (a lady) was deeply troubling and > > > > in very poor taste. Your subsequent apology was even poorer than your > > > > original message. Hindu tradition and culture as taught to me in a > > > > south indian brahmin family is certainly not what you are practising > > > > in this forum. This forum has many foreign born people who put me to > > > > shame in the way they have grasped and practise vedic culture, hindu > > > > philosophy and tradition. We all would do well to follow their > > > > example. > > > > > > > > I have held back writing to you and a few others in this forum who > > > > have a total disregard for basic human respect and courtesy. But then > > > > by not giving you direct feedback, we have to give you the benefit of > > > > the doubt that you are unaware of your condescending and > > > > confrontational behavior (especially without provocation) . You have > > > > received feedback directly from a couple of others. Please add this > > > > feedback to that list. Most people here welcome a healthy debate. > > > > Please " disagree " freely without " being disagreeable " . > > > > > > > > Thanks very much for your listening, understanding and support. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Somnath > > > > > > > > On 4/21/10, sunilbhattacharjya@ ... > > > > <sunilbhattacharjya wrote: > > > > > // Besides this , the house is benefited when 3rd house from > > > > > it is in malefic influence ( because Malefic planets or influence > > > > > on 3rd house generate beneficial Argala ). This is the reason > > > > > that 3rd aspect bring auspicious effects on the house in which > > > > > Saturn is placed (and not the house aspected by Saturn > > > > > by third aspect). > > > > > // > > > > > > > > > > Is above thing correct? > > > > > > > > > > Argala and aspect can be juxtaposed? When aspect works and when argala?, > > > > > have you any streak of idea ? Why deb Ju of 5'th and Ra in Lagna are making > > > > > fool out of the ppl openly? > > > > > > > > > > Be careful Deb Ju can't win in front of exalted Ju & exalted Ve combo - both > > > > > Brahmins of highest order as stated in classics - as it exposes worst > > > > > concoction freely because of pollination of wisdom all around. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Dear Friends. > > > > >> The effect of Saturn's 3rd aspect is in discussion for some > > > > >> time. The following factors may be considered: > > > > >> !. basically Saturn is Karka of hard work , foresight and Karma. > > > > >> 2. Saturn's full aspect fall on 3rd and 10th house besides 7H. > > > > >> 4. The 3h and 10H fall in the category of Upachaya houses. > > > > >> This is the main reason for the famous dictum that: > > > > >> " Sthan vriddhi karo Shani " > > > > >> I.E. the Saturn lifts the material signification of the house in > > > > >> which it is placed , because it is aspecting two upachaya houses > > > > >> simultaneously. . > > > > >> 5. Besides this , the house is benefited when 3rd house from > > > > >> it is in malefic influence ( because Malefic planets or influence > > > > >> on 3rd house generate beneficial Argala ). This is the reason > > > > >> that 3rd aspect bring auspicious effects on the house in which > > > > >> Saturn is placed (and not the house aspected by Saturn > > > > >> by third aspect). > > > > >> Regards, > > > > >> > > > > >> G.K.GOEL > > > > >> Ph: 09350311433 > > > > >> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > >> NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > >> INDIA > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2010 Report Share Posted April 25, 2010 how can jupter bring neecha bhanga it is neither kendra to lagna nor chandra same is for venus Ashish yep the way he spends his money i feel he enjoys a fat paypacket As far as relationships go shukra is in MKS ,his first raltionship were both of them were quite serious ended because of high career ambitions.He got married to some one else in next 1 yr or so ,the 2nd relationship gal he met online and was following her blogs , they just met once and thn tied the knot quickly as he was in Germany . I guess his second marriage is sort of a rebound ,too much imflammatory planets like sun,mars,ketu in 7th in aquarius and shukra in MKS is gonna give him troubles at least it seems on paper but at present everything is normal on marriage front. Also one more thing to notice is that Sun becomes the AK and Saturn the AMK ,sun is in 7th and saturn in ascendant thereby causing a parivartan betweeen 1st and 7th house . this also might be the theme of his life this parivartan between the AK and Amk whereby one trying to elevate him to the heights and other trying to make him fall ,this is my opinion and being a novice i may be entirely wrong. Regards Deep. sohamsa , " Ashish " <bondmerama wrote: > > Dear Deepen, > Namaskar. > In the below chart Mercury is neecha banga,with aspect of exalted Jupiter,also Jupiter is in 2nd from Chandra.The sources of income are strong. > I wish experts can comment more for clearer picture. > How about his marriage,please let me know.Is he married? or faces problem in that zone.Is he very argumentive (logical thinking)? > Best Regards > Ashish. > > sohamsa , deepen thakkar <justcoolout@> wrote: > > > > HI Ashish and Group members, > > > > I am also presenting a chart who is very intelligent guy ,qaulifications MBA & S/W Engineer a ranked student all the while ,currently in germany working with INFOSYS. > > The most striking thing to look fwd in this chart is nearly 6 planets are getting exalted in navmansha. > > > > I want to ask one question to the learned members of the group ,this person is havin Leo ascendant with Sa + rahu in asc and Sun+kektu+ mars in 7th house no other benefics in kendra ,even exchange between 1st and 7th house ,all malefics in kendra thereby causing a Sarpa Dosha ,but his life has been relatively quite smoother and no visible effects of Sarpa Dosha are seen.. > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > Date:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â March 6, 1979 > > Time:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 6:04:27 pm > > Time Zone:Â Â Â Â 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Bombay, India > > Altitude:Â Â Â Â Â 0.00 meters > > > > > > > > Kind Regards > > Deep > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 22/4/10, Ashish <bondmerama@> wrote: > > > > Ashish <bondmerama@> > > [soHamsa] Re: Saturn's third aspect > > sohamsa > > Thursday, 22 April, 2010, 11:13 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Lakshmi Ji,. > > > > Namaskar. > > > > I have Shani in Lagna with Rahu in a very enemy sign of Leo. > > > > I will share some of my experiences of Shani in Lagna. > > > > First thing to note is that any single indicator doesnot count,I have strong exalted Shani in Navamsha. > > > > I have faced several challenges in terms of courage,fears, anxiety,conflict s with society,friends and bosses.I have worked as a low-paid worker. > > > > I thought that yoga of Leo(Shani+Rahu) was responsible for miseries,but there is friend of mine with a similar yoga in lagna,he is very courageous and a famous,rich celebrity. > > > > Thus there is more to simple placement of Shani in lagna. > > > > Best Regards > > > > Ashish. > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > Dear Shiv, > > > > > Now I have your name. > > > > > Saturn in lagna, is in MKS. It is hard for person to try and lord it over others. > > > > > When Saturn is strong and well placed(like in Sasi maha parusha yoga as extreme) the person can be a manager, landlord or employ people or in some way lord it over others. > > > > > Saturn in lagna, can also make a person Shy, > > > > > shy persons often have a hard time to stand up for themselves.It takes alot of courage for them to stand before others. > > > > > Ketu can also make that person blend in, and be ignored by others(like invisable) > > > > > More later, have to run off. > > > > > Will check out your navamsa , that is the fruit of the Rasi chart, where we can see what dharma and karma reap . > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " Sun " <theblisswithin@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Goelji > > > > > > Thanks for you insights. Point no. 5 is indeed interesting. One thing, though, is that it might hold true for any other house in the chart, but Saturn in first is considered MKS. Will this still hold true there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Shiv > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends. > > > > > > > The effect of Saturn's 3rd aspect is in discussion for some > > > > > > > time. The following factors may be considered: > > > > > > > !. basically Saturn is Karka of hard work , foresight and Karma. > > > > > > > 2. Saturn's full aspect fall on 3rd and 10th house besides 7H. > > > > > > > 4. The 3h and 10H fall in the category of Upachaya houses. > > > > > > > This is the main reason for the famous dictum that: > > > > > > > " Sthan vriddhi karo Shani " > > > > > > > I.E. the Saturn lifts the material signification of the house in > > > > > > > which it is placed , because it is aspecting two upachaya houses > > > > > > > simultaneously. . > > > > > > > 5. Besides this , the house is benefited when 3rd house from > > > > > > > it is in malefic influence ( because Malefic planets or influence > > > > > > > on 3rd house generate beneficial Argala ). This is the reason > > > > > > > that 3rd aspect bring auspicious effects on the house in which > > > > > > > Saturn is placed (and not the house aspected by Saturn > > > > > > > by third aspect). > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 Dear Deepan, Namaskar. Mercury gets Neecha banga due to it's dispositer Jupiter getting exalted.Also aspect of Jupiter adds to strength. Females in general would have brought transformation in thought process for him.Is he very romantic guy,and what " sweet " addictions does he have,conflicts in partnerships will always be there due to ego problems. He should take care about his addictions,which must have brought some disease from 2007. Best Regards Ashish. sohamsa , " deepenthakkar79 " <justcoolout wrote: > > > how can jupter bring neecha bhanga it is neither kendra to lagna nor chandra same is for venus > Ashish yep the way he spends his money i feel he enjoys a fat paypacket > As far as relationships go shukra is in MKS ,his first raltionship were both of them were quite serious ended because of high career ambitions.He got married to some one else in next 1 yr or so ,the 2nd relationship gal he met online and was following her blogs , they just met once and thn tied the knot quickly as he was in Germany . > I guess his second marriage is sort of a rebound ,too much imflammatory planets like sun,mars,ketu in 7th in aquarius and shukra in MKS is gonna give him troubles at least it seems on paper but at present everything is normal on marriage front. > Also one more thing to notice is that Sun becomes the AK and Saturn the AMK ,sun is in 7th and saturn in ascendant thereby causing a parivartan betweeen 1st and 7th house . this also might be the theme of his life this parivartan between the AK and Amk whereby one trying to elevate him to the heights and other trying to make him fall ,this is my opinion and being a novice i may be entirely wrong. > > Regards > Deep. > sohamsa , " Ashish " <bondmerama@> wrote: > > > > Dear Deepen, > > Namaskar. > > In the below chart Mercury is neecha banga,with aspect of exalted Jupiter,also Jupiter is in 2nd from Chandra.The sources of income are strong. > > I wish experts can comment more for clearer picture. > > How about his marriage,please let me know.Is he married? or faces problem in that zone.Is he very argumentive (logical thinking)? > > Best Regards > > Ashish. > > > > sohamsa , deepen thakkar <justcoolout@> wrote: > > > > > > HI Ashish and Group members, > > > > > > I am also presenting a chart who is very intelligent guy ,qaulifications MBA & S/W Engineer a ranked student all the while ,currently in germany working with INFOSYS. > > > The most striking thing to look fwd in this chart is nearly 6 planets are getting exalted in navmansha. > > > > > > I want to ask one question to the learned members of the group ,this person is havin Leo ascendant with Sa + rahu in asc and Sun+kektu+ mars in 7th house no other benefics in kendra ,even exchange between 1st and 7th house ,all malefics in kendra thereby causing a Sarpa Dosha ,but his life has been relatively quite smoother and no visible effects of Sarpa Dosha are seen.. > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > Date:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â March 6, 1979 > > > Time:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 6:04:27 pm > > > Time Zone:Â Â Â Â 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Bombay, India > > > Altitude:Â Â Â Â Â 0.00 meters > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards > > > Deep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 22/4/10, Ashish <bondmerama@> wrote: > > > > > > Ashish <bondmerama@> > > > [soHamsa] Re: Saturn's third aspect > > > sohamsa > > > Thursday, 22 April, 2010, 11:13 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Lakshmi Ji,. > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > > > I have Shani in Lagna with Rahu in a very enemy sign of Leo. > > > > > > I will share some of my experiences of Shani in Lagna. > > > > > > First thing to note is that any single indicator doesnot count,I have strong exalted Shani in Navamsha. > > > > > > I have faced several challenges in terms of courage,fears, anxiety,conflict s with society,friends and bosses.I have worked as a low-paid worker. > > > > > > I thought that yoga of Leo(Shani+Rahu) was responsible for miseries,but there is friend of mine with a similar yoga in lagna,he is very courageous and a famous,rich celebrity. > > > > > > Thus there is more to simple placement of Shani in lagna. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Ashish. > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > > Dear Shiv, > > > > > > > Now I have your name. > > > > > > > Saturn in lagna, is in MKS. It is hard for person to try and lord it over others. > > > > > > > When Saturn is strong and well placed(like in Sasi maha parusha yoga as extreme) the person can be a manager, landlord or employ people or in some way lord it over others. > > > > > > > Saturn in lagna, can also make a person Shy, > > > > > > > shy persons often have a hard time to stand up for themselves.It takes alot of courage for them to stand before others. > > > > > > > Ketu can also make that person blend in, and be ignored by others(like invisable) > > > > > > > More later, have to run off. > > > > > > > Will check out your navamsa , that is the fruit of the Rasi chart, where we can see what dharma and karma reap . > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, " Sun " <theblisswithin@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Goelji > > > > > > > > Thanks for you insights. Point no. 5 is indeed interesting. One thing, though, is that it might hold true for any other house in the chart, but Saturn in first is considered MKS. Will this still hold true there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Shiv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends. > > > > > > > > > The effect of Saturn's 3rd aspect is in discussion for some > > > > > > > > > time. The following factors may be considered: > > > > > > > > > !. basically Saturn is Karka of hard work , foresight and Karma. > > > > > > > > > 2. Saturn's full aspect fall on 3rd and 10th house besides 7H. > > > > > > > > > 4. The 3h and 10H fall in the category of Upachaya houses. > > > > > > > > > This is the main reason for the famous dictum that: > > > > > > > > > " Sthan vriddhi karo Shani " > > > > > > > > > I.E. the Saturn lifts the material signification of the house in > > > > > > > > > which it is placed , because it is aspecting two upachaya houses > > > > > > > > > simultaneously. . > > > > > > > > > 5. Besides this , the house is benefited when 3rd house from > > > > > > > > > it is in malefic influence ( because Malefic planets or influence > > > > > > > > > on 3rd house generate beneficial Argala ). This is the reason > > > > > > > > > that 3rd aspect bring auspicious effects on the house in which > > > > > > > > > Saturn is placed (and not the house aspected by Saturn > > > > > > > > > by third aspect). > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > > > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > > > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > > > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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