Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Namaste dear Anna, Inconvenient truth... I shall never forget Sanjay's words " I have seen so many corrupted individuals in the most sacred places on Earth, and yet so many saintly individuals among ordinary people. " When I heard it I could not believe that it is coming out of one Pandit. What I read in Narasimha's email was like elaborating that sentence on the top of my email ( " oh, this is Part Two on that issue " . " THE CHURCH is in your HEART " your mother is one very wise woman! Fortunately, God is above any religion, church, priest, temple etc. Recently I have heard that prayer performed for a close one is much stronger than a prayer done for ourselves. What do you think of this? Lazy people... my, oh, my... Regards, Maya Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , 108ar <bona_mente wrote: > > > I think we cannot over-emphasize this!!! Thanks Bivash. > > " Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have seen > many priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can > actually make a true difference. These days, people are better off > doing the best job they themselves can do, instead of relying on a > priest or a pandit " > > > I've met many priests in the course of my life, less religious than I am myself- my mother has been aware of that much earlier- does that make us dissapointed in religion?- no way!!! > > I've come long way to reach subtle agreement and awareness of what my mother always says- THE CHURCH is in your HEART /the most devine one, where God resides/. > > Sorry to be blunt? > > No, you're just being honest > not being afraid to address obvious. > > /No, we are in Kali Yuga/ > > The greatest benefit comes as we engage our hearts and minds in order to reach God!!! /as opposed to passively /lazy?/ accepting /any/ priest to do that for us. > > Anna > > rom: Bivash Ramroop <bivaash108 > Re: Possessed by evil spirits? (priests) > sohamsa > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 2:10 AM > Om Brihaspataye Namah > > Dear Guru Narasimhaji, > Namaste > > Sorry for drifting off the topic... > > You wrote: > " Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have seen > many priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can > actually make a true difference. These days, people are better off > doing the best job they themselves can do, instead of relying on a > priest or a pandit " > > I agree. In South Africa, it is EXTREMELY rare to find a good priest > to do anything. And recently, in a South African newspaper, there was > an article about a family who was about to perform a marriage > ceremony, and they made a mistake- to which the priest pointed at the > girl and uttered a curse to the entire family. > > Most of the priests in my area are of caste origin, and know very very > little about Jyotish. > > Hopefully, with the blessings of Lord Jagannatha, their consciousness > will be raised in the future. > > Jaya Radha Govardhanadhari! > -Bivash > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Dear Maja, You've made me think- I found myself unable to answer your Q re: "prayer performed for a close one is much stronger than a prayer done for ourselves" I am 'work in progress' myself, always hungry for more, for deeper knowledge...understanding. you can relate to that, I am sure. Thanks for mentioning Sanjay- what keeps us here, LOL! I like 'every saint has past...and sinner the future'- it resonates strongly with my beliefs. I am blessed to have quite a special mother- I know it's hard to believe, I rely on my mother's prayers for me. In a way I haven't prayed for myself since my son was born- OK, I hear you, that doen't sound 'quite true' to me, either! One can argue that I pray intensely for those I love, for selfish reasons, and that's true, perhaps. So, I certainly believe in power of prayers, more than anything else I am inclined to believe that God responds quickly to unselfish prayers, but, should I say, that's MHO! Good luck dear Maja, I am sending positive energy your way /prayer?/ Love, Anna --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro Re: remedies /and/ (priests) (Anna)sohamsa Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 6:59 PM Om Gurave NamahNamaste dear Anna,Inconvenient truth...I shall never forget Sanjay's words "I have seen so many corrupted individuals in the most sacred places on Earth, and yet so many saintly individuals among ordinary people."When I heard it I could not believe that it is coming out of one Pandit.What I read in Narasimha's email was like elaborating that sentence on the top of my email ("oh, this is Part Two on that issue" ."THE CHURCH is in your HEART " your mother is one very wise woman!Fortunately, God is above any religion, church, priest, temple etc.Recently I have heard that prayer performed for a close one is much stronger than a prayer done for ourselves. What do you think of this?Lazy people... my, oh, my...Regards,MayaHari Om Tat Satsohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote:>> > I think we cannot over-emphasize this!!! Thanks Bivash.> > "Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have seen > many priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can > actually make a true difference. These days, people are better off > doing the best job they themselves can do, instead of relying on a > priest or a pandit"> > > I've met many priests in the course of my life, less religious than I am myself- my mother has been aware of that much earlier- does that make us dissapointed in religion?- no way!!!> > I've come long way to reach subtle agreement and awareness of what my mother always says- THE CHURCH is in your HEART /the most devine one, where God resides/. > > Sorry to be blunt?> > No, you're just being honest> not being afraid to address obvious.> > /No, we are in Kali Yuga/> > The greatest benefit comes as we engage our hearts and minds in order to reach God!!! /as opposed to passively /lazy?/ accepting /any/ priest to do that for us.> > Anna> > rom: Bivash Ramroop <bivaash108@ ...>> Re: Possessed by evil spirits? (priests)> sohamsa@ .com> Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 2:10 AM> > > > > > > > Om Brihaspataye Namah> > Dear Guru Narasimhaji,> Namaste> > Sorry for drifting off the topic...> > You wrote:> "Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have seen > many priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can > actually make a true difference. These days, people are better off > doing the best job they themselves can do, instead of relying on a > priest or a pandit"> > I agree. In South Africa, it is EXTREMELY rare to find a good priest > to do anything. And recently, in a South African newspaper, there was > an article about a family who was about to perform a marriage > ceremony, and they made a mistake- to which the priest pointed at the > girl and uttered a curse to the entire family.> > Most of the priests in my area are of caste origin, and know very very > little about Jyotish.> > Hopefully, with the blessings of Lord Jagannatha, their consciousness > will be raised in the future. > > Jaya Radha Govardhanadhari!> -Bivash> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Anna, Namaste Hold your thinking for a moment, please My mistake, sorry, I was not clear enough. I was talking about prayers generally... in any religion. And that thought about prayers was not mentioned by someone who is involved in Vedic wisdom. Just have that in mind. (Ok, green light to continue brainstorming Paracelsus? Ring a bell? He said that power of belief is point in prayers as much as rituals in witchcraft. " Words and rituals " are there just to support focus. I agree with him. Yes, I know, mantra... sound vibration that reaches subtle level of mind we are unable to reach from our " surface " in any other way. Think of that vibration joined with strong belief (this mechanism was already mentioned in this thread, I am just adding it here). Strong belief. You have a child. If you were both Ill, who would you pray for first (I know the answer, of course)? Think of this extreme: someone very close to you is in coma (let's leave out your son here. I don't want to use that example). You are aware of reincarnation, so you don't mind so much to lose your own life (what is the difference, anyway And I am not talking about inborn reflexes. Of course that all of us pay attention to left and right when crossing the street). And you are ill from something very serious at the same time when this person close to you is in coma. You have one more year left to live. You get option to choose and you can chose only one: a) to pray for your own life to extend it from one year to ten; b) to pray for life of this person. What would be your choice? (We can be spiritual and wise as much as it takes, but at the end of the day... We are all " spoiled little babies " who can not take the pain of losing someone close. It is human quality. It is not about saving life of a close one. It is all about our own pain. Inconvenient truth, ha, ha.) Which prayer would be stronger by your opinion? " A " or " B " ? I got a lot of positive energy from there were you are. Let me send you same in return. Regards (oh, dear girl, I am pretty hard on saying " love " just like that :) :) Give me some time :) :) To meet you better :) :) OK... Love, Maya Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , 108ar <bona_mente wrote: > > Dear Maja, > > You've made me think- I found myself unable to answer your Q re: " prayer performed for a close one is much > stronger than a prayer done for ourselves " > I am 'work in progress' myself, always hungry for more, for deeper knowledge...understanding. you can relate to that, I am sure. > > Thanks for mentioning Sanjay- what keeps us here, LOL! > I like 'every saint has past...and sinner the future'- it resonates strongly with my beliefs. > > I am blessed to have quite a special mother- I know it's hard to believe, > I rely on my mother's prayers for me. In a way I haven't prayed for myself since my son was born- OK, I hear you, that doen't sound 'quite true' to me, either! One can argue that I pray intensely for those I love, for selfish reasons, and that's true, perhaps. > > So, I certainly believe in power of prayers, more than anything else > I am inclined to believe that God responds quickly to unselfish prayers, > but, should I say, that's MHO! > > Good luck dear Maja, I am sending positive energy your way /prayer?/ > > Love, > Anna > > > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro > Re: remedies /and/ (priests) (Anna) > sohamsa > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 6:59 PM Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste dear Anna, > > Inconvenient truth... > > I shall never forget Sanjay's words " I have seen so many corrupted > individuals in the most sacred places on Earth, and yet so many > saintly individuals among ordinary people. " > > When I heard it I could not believe that it is coming out of one > Pandit. > > What I read in Narasimha's email was like elaborating that sentence > on the top of my email ( " oh, this is Part Two on that issue " . > > " THE CHURCH is in your HEART " your mother is one very wise woman! > > Fortunately, God is above any religion, church, priest, temple etc. > > Recently I have heard that prayer performed for a close one is much > stronger than a prayer done for ourselves. What do you think of this? > > Lazy people... my, oh, my... > > Regards, > Maya > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > sohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > I think we cannot over-emphasize this!!! Thanks Bivash. > > > > " Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have > seen > > many priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can > > actually make a true difference. These days, people are better off > > doing the best job they themselves can do, instead of relying on a > > priest or a pandit " > > > > > > I've met many priests in the course of my life, less religious > than I am myself- my mother has been aware of that much earlier- > does that make us dissapointed in religion?- no way!!! > > > > I've come long way to reach subtle agreement and awareness of what > my mother always says- THE CHURCH is in your HEART /the most devine > one, where God resides/. > > > > Sorry to be blunt? > > > > No, you're just being honest > > not being afraid to address obvious. > > > > /No, we are in Kali Yuga/ > > > > The greatest benefit comes as we engage our hearts and minds in > order to reach God!!! /as opposed to passively /lazy?/ > accepting /any/ priest to do that for us. > > > > Anna > > > > rom: Bivash Ramroop <bivaash108@ ...> > > Re: Possessed by evil spirits? (priests) > > sohamsa@ .com > > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 2:10 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Brihaspataye Namah > > > > Dear Guru Narasimhaji, > > Namaste > > > > Sorry for drifting off the topic... > > > > You wrote: > > " Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have > seen > > many priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can > > actually make a true difference. These days, people are better off > > doing the best job they themselves can do, instead of relying on a > > priest or a pandit " > > > > I agree. In South Africa, it is EXTREMELY rare to find a good > priest > > to do anything. And recently, in a South African newspaper, there > was > > an article about a family who was about to perform a marriage > > ceremony, and they made a mistake- to which the priest pointed at > the > > girl and uttered a curse to the entire family. > > > > Most of the priests in my area are of caste origin, and know very > very > > little about Jyotish. > > > > Hopefully, with the blessings of Lord Jagannatha, their > consciousness > > will be raised in the future. > > > > Jaya Radha Govardhanadhari! > > -Bivash > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Dear Maja, It's perhaps your time to play with your mind- it's OK. I hope you're just exploring your own thinking process /not abusing it, not misusing it/. Faith is not about /rational/, thinking. Cannot be accessed that way either. We all can give different descriptions of that complex phenomenon. Time is precious commodity, though. In closing this thread, I thank God for saving me from difficult choices. for not giving me the cross I cannot bear. Love, Anna --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro Re: remedies /and/ (priests) (Anna)sohamsa Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 1:05 PM Om Gurave NamahDear Anna,NamasteHold your thinking for a moment, please :)My mistake, sorry, I was not clear enough. I was talking about prayers generally... in any religion. And that thought about prayers was not mentioned by someone who is involved in Vedic wisdom. Just have that in mind.(Ok, green light to continue brainstorming :)Paracelsus? Ring a bell? He said that power of belief is point in prayers as much as rituals in witchcraft. "Words and rituals" are there just to support focus. I agree with him.Yes, I know, mantra... sound vibration that reaches subtle level of mind we are unable to reach from our "surface" in any other way. Think of that vibration joined with strong belief (this mechanism was already mentioned in this thread, I am just adding it here).Strong belief. You have a child. If you were both Ill, who would you pray for first (I know the answer, of course)?Think of this extreme: someone very close to you is in coma (let's leave out your son here. I don't want to use that example). You are aware of reincarnation, so you don't mind so much to lose your own life (what is the difference, anyway And I am not talking about inborn reflexes. Of course that all of us pay attention to left and right when crossing the street). And you are ill from something very serious at the same time when this person close to you is in coma. You have one more year left to live. You get option to choose and you can chose only one:a) to pray for your own life to extend it from one year to ten;b) to pray for life of this person. What would be your choice?(We can be spiritual and wise as much as it takes, but at the end of the day... We are all "spoiled little babies" who can not take the pain of losing someone close. It is human quality. It is not about saving life of a close one. It is all about our own pain. Inconvenient truth, ha, ha.)Which prayer would be stronger by your opinion? "A" or "B"? :)I got a lot of positive energy from there were you are. Let me send you same in return.Regards (oh, dear girl, I am pretty hard on saying "love" just like that :) :) Give me some time :) :) To meet you better :) :)OK...Love,MayaHari Om Tat Satsohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Maja,> > You've made me think- I found myself unable to answer your Q re: "prayer performed for a close one is much > stronger than a prayer done for ourselves" > I am 'work in progress' myself, always hungry for more, for deeper knowledge... understanding. you can relate to that, I am sure.> > Thanks for mentioning Sanjay- what keeps us here, LOL!> I like 'every saint has past...and sinner the future'- it resonates strongly with my beliefs.> > I am blessed to have quite a special mother- I know it's hard to believe,> I rely on my mother's prayers for me. In a way I haven't prayed for myself since my son was born- OK, I hear you, that doen't sound 'quite true' to me, either! One can argue that I pray intensely for those I love, for selfish reasons, and that's true, perhaps. > > So, I certainly believe in power of prayers, more than anything else > I am inclined to believe that God responds quickly to unselfish prayers,> but, should I say, that's MHO!> > Good luck dear Maja, I am sending positive energy your way /prayer?/> > Love,> Anna> > > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:> > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...>> Re: remedies /and/ (priests) (Anna)> sohamsa@ .com> Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 6:59 PM> > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste dear Anna,> > Inconvenient truth...> > I shall never forget Sanjay's words "I have seen so many corrupted > individuals in the most sacred places on Earth, and yet so many > saintly individuals among ordinary people."> > When I heard it I could not believe that it is coming out of one > Pandit.> > What I read in Narasimha's email was like elaborating that sentence > on the top of my email ("oh, this is Part Two on that issue" .> > "THE CHURCH is in your HEART " your mother is one very wise woman!> > Fortunately, God is above any religion, church, priest, temple etc.> > Recently I have heard that prayer performed for a close one is much > stronger than a prayer done for ourselves. What do you think of this?> > Lazy people... my, oh, my...> > Regards,> Maya> > Hari Om Tat Sat> > sohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > I think we cannot over-emphasize this!!! Thanks Bivash.> > > > "Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have > seen > > many priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can > > actually make a true difference. These days, people are better off > > doing the best job they themselves can do, instead of relying on a > > priest or a pandit"> > > > > > I've met many priests in the course of my life, less religious > than I am myself- my mother has been aware of that much earlier- > does that make us dissapointed in religion?- no way!!!> > > > I've come long way to reach subtle agreement and awareness of what > my mother always says- THE CHURCH is in your HEART /the most devine > one, where God resides/. > > > > Sorry to be blunt?> > > > No, you're just being honest> > not being afraid to address obvious.> > > > /No, we are in Kali Yuga/> > > > The greatest benefit comes as we engage our hearts and minds in > order to reach God!!! /as opposed to passively /lazy?/ > accepting /any/ priest to do that for us.> > > > Anna> > > > rom: Bivash Ramroop <bivaash108@ ...>> > Re: Possessed by evil spirits? (priests)> > sohamsa@ .com> > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 2:10 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Brihaspataye Namah> > > > Dear Guru Narasimhaji,> > Namaste> > > > Sorry for drifting off the topic...> > > > You wrote:> > "Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have > seen > > many priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can > > actually make a true difference. These days, people are better off > > doing the best job they themselves can do, instead of relying on a > > priest or a pandit"> > > > I agree. In South Africa, it is EXTREMELY rare to find a good > priest > > to do anything. And recently, in a South African newspaper, there > was > > an article about a family who was about to perform a marriage > > ceremony, and they made a mistake- to which the priest pointed at > the > > girl and uttered a curse to the entire family.> > > > Most of the priests in my area are of caste origin, and know very > very > > little about Jyotish.> > > > Hopefully, with the blessings of Lord Jagannatha, their > consciousness > > will be raised in the future. > > > > Jaya Radha Govardhanadhari!> > -Bivash> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Anna, Namaste (Just a moment before you close this thread Exploring, exploring... don't be worried about me. It is just exploring, relax. Though I am very " good " in describing complete disasters, here is one example (under " 1. " ; first paragraph): sohamsa/message/15444 It is just me, don't be terrified, imagination... Blah, blah, blah. (I told you so. We should meet better . Love (<------ do you still believe this after following that link? Maya Hari Om Tat Sat sohamsa , 108ar <bona_mente wrote: > > Dear Maja, > > It's perhaps your time to play with your mind- it's OK. I hope you're just exploring your own thinking process /not abusing it, not misusing it/. > > Faith is not about /rational/, thinking. Cannot be accessed that way either. We all can give different descriptions of that complex phenomenon. > > Time is precious commodity, though. > > In closing this thread, > I thank God for saving me from difficult choices. > for not giving me the cross I cannot bear. > > Love, > Anna > > > > > > --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro wrote: > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro > Re: remedies /and/ (priests) (Anna) > sohamsa > Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 1:05 PM Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Anna, > Namaste > > Hold your thinking for a moment, please > > My mistake, sorry, I was not clear enough. I was talking about > prayers generally... in any religion. And that thought about prayers > was not mentioned by someone who is involved in Vedic wisdom. Just > have that in mind. > > (Ok, green light to continue brainstorming > > Paracelsus? Ring a bell? He said that power of belief is point in > prayers as much as rituals in witchcraft. " Words and rituals " are > there just to support focus. I agree with him. > > Yes, I know, mantra... sound vibration that reaches subtle level of > mind we are unable to reach from our " surface " in any other way. > Think of that vibration joined with strong belief (this mechanism > was already mentioned in this thread, I am just adding it here). > > Strong belief. You have a child. If you were both Ill, who would you > pray for first (I know the answer, of course)? > > Think of this extreme: someone very close to you is in coma (let's > leave out your son here. I don't want to use that example). You are > aware of reincarnation, so you don't mind so much to lose your own > life (what is the difference, anyway And I am not talking about > inborn reflexes. Of course that all of us pay attention to left and > right when crossing the street). And you are ill from something very > serious at the same time when this person close to you is in coma. > You have one more year left to live. You get option to choose and > you can chose only one: > > a) to pray for your own life to extend it from one year to ten; > b) to pray for life of this person. > > What would be your choice? > > (We can be spiritual and wise as much as it takes, but at the end of > the day... We are all " spoiled little babies " who can not take the > pain of losing someone close. It is human quality. It is not about > saving life of a close one. It is all about our own pain. > Inconvenient truth, ha, ha.) > > Which prayer would be stronger by your opinion? " A " or " B " ? > > I got a lot of positive energy from there were you are. Let me send > you same in return. > > Regards (oh, dear girl, I am pretty hard on saying " love " just like > that :) :) Give me some time :) :) To meet you > better :) :) > > OK... > > Love, > Maya > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > sohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Maja, > > > > You've made me think- I found myself unable to answer your Q > re: " prayer performed for a close one is much > > stronger than a prayer done for ourselves " > > I am 'work in progress' myself, always hungry for more, for deeper > knowledge... understanding. you can relate to that, I am sure. > > > > Thanks for mentioning Sanjay- what keeps us here, LOL! > > I like 'every saint has past...and sinner the future'- it > resonates strongly with my beliefs. > > > > I am blessed to have quite a special mother- I know it's hard to > believe, > > I rely on my mother's prayers for me. In a way I haven't prayed > for myself since my son was born- OK, I hear you, that doen't > sound 'quite true' to me, either! One can argue that I pray > intensely for those I love, for selfish reasons, and that's true, > perhaps. > > > > So, I certainly believe in power of prayers, more than anything > else > > I am inclined to believe that God responds quickly to unselfish > prayers, > > but, should I say, that's MHO! > > > > Good luck dear Maja, I am sending positive energy your > way /prayer?/ > > > > Love, > > Anna > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote: > > > > Maja Strbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> > > Re: remedies /and/ (priests) (Anna) > > sohamsa@ .com > > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 6:59 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste dear Anna, > > > > Inconvenient truth... > > > > I shall never forget Sanjay's words " I have seen so many corrupted > > individuals in the most sacred places on Earth, and yet so many > > saintly individuals among ordinary people. " > > > > When I heard it I could not believe that it is coming out of one > > Pandit. > > > > What I read in Narasimha's email was like elaborating that > sentence > > on the top of my email ( " oh, this is Part Two on that issue " . > > > > " THE CHURCH is in your HEART " your mother is one very wise woman! > > > > Fortunately, God is above any religion, church, priest, temple etc. > > > > Recently I have heard that prayer performed for a close one is > much > > stronger than a prayer done for ourselves. What do you think of > this? > > > > Lazy people... my, oh, my... > > > > Regards, > > Maya > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > sohamsa@ .com, 108ar <bona_mente@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think we cannot over-emphasize this!!! Thanks Bivash. > > > > > > " Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have > > seen > > > many priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can > > > actually make a true difference. These days, people are better > off > > > doing the best job they themselves can do, instead of relying on > a > > > priest or a pandit " > > > > > > > > > I've met many priests in the course of my life, less religious > > than I am myself- my mother has been aware of that much earlier- > > does that make us dissapointed in religion?- no way!!! > > > > > > I've come long way to reach subtle agreement and awareness of > what > > my mother always says- THE CHURCH is in your HEART /the most > devine > > one, where God resides/. > > > > > > Sorry to be blunt? > > > > > > No, you're just being honest > > > not being afraid to address obvious. > > > > > > /No, we are in Kali Yuga/ > > > > > > The greatest benefit comes as we engage our hearts and minds in > > order to reach God!!! /as opposed to passively /lazy?/ > > accepting /any/ priest to do that for us. > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > rom: Bivash Ramroop <bivaash108@ ...> > > > Re: Possessed by evil spirits? (priests) > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 2:10 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Brihaspataye Namah > > > > > > Dear Guru Narasimhaji, > > > Namaste > > > > > > Sorry for drifting off the topic... > > > > > > You wrote: > > > " Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have > > seen > > > many priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can > > > actually make a true difference. These days, people are better > off > > > doing the best job they themselves can do, instead of relying on > a > > > priest or a pandit " > > > > > > I agree. In South Africa, it is EXTREMELY rare to find a good > > priest > > > to do anything. And recently, in a South African newspaper, > there > > was > > > an article about a family who was about to perform a marriage > > > ceremony, and they made a mistake- to which the priest pointed > at > > the > > > girl and uttered a curse to the entire family. > > > > > > Most of the priests in my area are of caste origin, and know > very > > very > > > little about Jyotish. > > > > > > Hopefully, with the blessings of Lord Jagannatha, their > > consciousness > > > will be raised in the future. > > > > > > Jaya Radha Govardhanadhari! > > > -Bivash > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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