divorce

August 5, 2004

Dear Manu and list members,

Divorce may be due to so many reasons.

1) if indicated more then one marriage. In such case second marriage

may be successful. ( Depends upon the Strength of the significator)

2) If loss of marrital happiness. If it is indicated no happiness

from marriage, there may be multiple marriages and divorce.

This is a chart with no marital happiness. Please find the

reason.

DOB 16th June 1950 ToB 08:15 Pm At Bombay 18N58, 71E50

krushna

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

> Dear Krushnaji, Ash,

>

> If a native has indications of divorce in the chart and he does get

> divorce that is fine.

>

> But how do we explain the scenario when some natives remarry and

lead

> a happy married life.

>

> Sorry to have repeated this question. I had asked this before as

well.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

August 5, 2004

Dear Krushnaji,

I have tried to answer the question. Kindly let me know my mistakes.

The following is the rasi chart of the native:

############################################# asc . sag 16°02'

# .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # su(4) gem 02°43'

# .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # mo(4) gem 13°28'

# .. ra .. # .. ve .. # .. me .. # .. su mo # ju(5) aqu 15°07'

# .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # me(6) tau 10°22'

############################################# ve(5) ari 25°11'

# .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # ma(4) vir 09°39'

# .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # sa(2) leo 21°18'

# .. ju .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # ra .. pis 11°08'

# .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # ke .. vir 11°08'

############//////RASI//D-1//////############

# .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. #

# .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. sa .. #

# .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. #

#############################################

# // .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. #

# .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. #

# .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. ma ke #

# .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. #

#############################################

Nakst[asc-ve, su-ma, mo-ra, me-mo, ve-ve, ma-su, ju-ra, sa-ve, ra-sa,

ke-mo]

Let us consider the quality of marriage:

The 7th lord me is in 6th house and is also aspected by Saturn.

The natural karak for marriage, Ve, is also lord of 6th house.

These indications are not good for the house of marriage and point to

divorce.

Let us see when the marriage might have happened.

There is no delay due to saturn.

The following are the dashas:

START........MD/AD...2nd sector...3rd sector...Age

--------------------

10/16/1969 - ju/su - 01/21/1970 - 04/28/1970 - 19.3346

08/05/1970 - ju/mo - 01/14/1971 - 06/25/1971 - 20.1368

12/05/1971 - ju/ma - 03/27/1972 - 07/19/1972 - 21.4701

11/10/1972 - ju/ra - 08/29/1973 - 06/17/1974 - 22.4037

04/05/1975 - sa/sa - 04/05/1976 - 04/06/1977 - 24.802

04/08/1978 - sa/me - 03/01/1979 - 01/23/1980 - 27.8109

12/16/1980 - sa/ke - 04/30/1981 - 09/12/1981 - 30.5022

01/25/1982 - sa/ve - 02/14/1983 - 03/06/1984 - 31.611

There are also no indications of delayed marriage or no marriage.

Hence, the marriage might have happened in the antar dasha of ma with

ju as MD.

Ma has less points for marriage and it is LoE. It is also LoE for

12th house.

Ma being placed in sign of mercury, it might have happened in the

second

sector from 3/1972 to 7/1972 when native was 21 yrs old.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, " krushanain "

<krushanain> wrote:

> Dear Manu and list members,

> Divorce may be due to so many reasons.

> 1) if indicated more then one marriage. In such case second

marriage

> may be successful. ( Depends upon the Strength of the significator)

> 2) If loss of marrital happiness. If it is indicated no happiness

> from marriage, there may be multiple marriages and divorce.

>

> This is a chart with no marital happiness. Please find the

> reason.

> DOB 16th June 1950 ToB 08:15 Pm At Bombay 18N58, 71E50

> krushna

>

> , " Manu Batura "

> <manubatura> wrote:

> > Dear Krushnaji, Ash,

> >

> > If a native has indications of divorce in the chart and he does

get

> > divorce that is fine.

> >

> > But how do we explain the scenario when some natives remarry and

> lead

> > a happy married life.

> >

> > Sorry to have repeated this question. I had asked this before as

> well.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

August 5, 2004

Dear Manu,

I am getting full delay. Sa is aspecting 11th house, it is LoA and

its aspecting Mercury sitting in 6th house. Guru is in Aquarius so

it cant check delay of Sa.

This is my cursory glance ... I shall attempt it in detail later on

or tomorrow..

I am also still thinking on the quesiton asked by Krushnaji ... on

the reason for no happiness in marriage in this chart....

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

> Dear Krushnaji,

>

> I have tried to answer the question. Kindly let me know my mistakes.

>

> The following is the rasi chart of the native:

>

> ############################################# asc . sag 16°02'

> # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # su(4) gem 02°43'

> # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # mo(4) gem 13°28'

> # .. ra .. # .. ve .. # .. me .. # .. su mo # ju(5) aqu 15°07'

> # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # me(6) tau 10°22'

> ############################################# ve(5) ari 25°11'

> # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # ma(4) vir 09°39'

> # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # sa(2) leo 21°18'

> # .. ju .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # ra .. pis 11°08'

> # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # ke .. vir 11°08'

> ############//////RASI//D-1//////############

> # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. #

> # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. sa .. #

> # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. #

> #############################################

> # // .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. #

> # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. #

> # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. ma ke #

> # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. #

> #############################################

> Nakst[asc-ve, su-ma, mo-ra, me-mo, ve-ve, ma-su, ju-ra, sa-ve, ra-

sa,

> ke-mo]

>

> Let us consider the quality of marriage:

>

> The 7th lord me is in 6th house and is also aspected by Saturn.

> The natural karak for marriage, Ve, is also lord of 6th house.

>

> These indications are not good for the house of marriage and point

to

> divorce.

>

> Let us see when the marriage might have happened.

>

> There is no delay due to saturn.

>

> The following are the dashas:

>

> START........MD/AD...2nd sector...3rd sector...Age

> --------------------

> 10/16/1969 - ju/su - 01/21/1970 - 04/28/1970 - 19.3346

> 08/05/1970 - ju/mo - 01/14/1971 - 06/25/1971 - 20.1368

> 12/05/1971 - ju/ma - 03/27/1972 - 07/19/1972 - 21.4701

> 11/10/1972 - ju/ra - 08/29/1973 - 06/17/1974 - 22.4037

> 04/05/1975 - sa/sa - 04/05/1976 - 04/06/1977 - 24.802

> 04/08/1978 - sa/me - 03/01/1979 - 01/23/1980 - 27.8109

> 12/16/1980 - sa/ke - 04/30/1981 - 09/12/1981 - 30.5022

> 01/25/1982 - sa/ve - 02/14/1983 - 03/06/1984 - 31.611

>

> There are also no indications of delayed marriage or no marriage.

>

> Hence, the marriage might have happened in the antar dasha of ma

with

> ju as MD.

> Ma has less points for marriage and it is LoE. It is also LoE for

> 12th house.

>

> Ma being placed in sign of mercury, it might have happened in the

> second

> sector from 3/1972 to 7/1972 when native was 21 yrs old.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> , " krushanain "

> <krushanain> wrote:

> > Dear Manu and list members,

> > Divorce may be due to so many reasons.

> > 1) if indicated more then one marriage. In such case second

> marriage

> > may be successful. ( Depends upon the Strength of the

significator)

> > 2) If loss of marrital happiness. If it is indicated no happiness

> > from marriage, there may be multiple marriages and divorce.

> >

> > This is a chart with no marital happiness. Please find

the

> > reason.

> > DOB 16th June 1950 ToB 08:15 Pm At Bombay 18N58, 71E50

> > krushna

> >

> > , " Manu Batura "

> > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > Dear Krushnaji, Ash,

> > >

> > > If a native has indications of divorce in the chart and he does

> get

> > > divorce that is fine.

> > >

> > > But how do we explain the scenario when some natives remarry

and

> > lead

> > > a happy married life.

> > >

> > > Sorry to have repeated this question. I had asked this before

as

> > well.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

August 5, 2004

Dear Ash,

I have a question regarding full delay.

Isn't it mentioned in the lessons that full delay occurs based on the

case when Sa aspects A, B and C, or it is LoA, LoB and LoC or it is

placed with LoA, LoB and LoC. And it is also caused by many factors

like Jupiter in libra, zeroes in the chart etc.

In this chart, these factors were not present. Hence I concluded.

Can you please explain me what are the conditions for full delay

again?

One more doubt, do other planets having more strength points than

lord of 6th become samdharmi to lord of 6th? I had made this note but

I don't think it would be appropriate.

In case this is true, in this chart all the planets shall become

samdharmi to lord of 6th venus. That might explain the spoiling of

the results.

Kindly guide me.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73> wrote:

> Dear Manu,

> I am getting full delay. Sa is aspecting 11th house, it is LoA and

> its aspecting Mercury sitting in 6th house. Guru is in Aquarius so

> it cant check delay of Sa.

>

> This is my cursory glance ... I shall attempt it in detail later on

> or tomorrow..

>

> I am also still thinking on the quesiton asked by Krushnaji ... on

> the reason for no happiness in marriage in this chart....

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " Manu Batura "

> <manubatura> wrote:

> > Dear Krushnaji,

> >

> > I have tried to answer the question. Kindly let me know my

mistakes.

> >

> > The following is the rasi chart of the native:

> >

> > ############################################# asc . sag 16°02'

> > # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # su(4) gem 02°43'

> > # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # mo(4) gem 13°28'

> > # .. ra .. # .. ve .. # .. me .. # .. su mo # ju(5) aqu 15°07'

> > # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # me(6) tau 10°22'

> > ############################################# ve(5) ari 25°11'

> > # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # ma(4) vir 09°39'

> > # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # sa(2) leo 21°18'

> > # .. ju .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # ra .. pis 11°08'

> > # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # ke .. vir 11°08'

> > ############//////RASI//D-1//////############

> > # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. #

> > # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. sa .. #

> > # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. #

> > #############################################

> > # // .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. #

> > # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. #

> > # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. ma ke #

> > # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. #

> > #############################################

> > Nakst[asc-ve, su-ma, mo-ra, me-mo, ve-ve, ma-su, ju-ra, sa-ve, ra-

> sa,

> > ke-mo]

> >

> > Let us consider the quality of marriage:

> >

> > The 7th lord me is in 6th house and is also aspected by Saturn.

> > The natural karak for marriage, Ve, is also lord of 6th house.

> >

> > These indications are not good for the house of marriage and

point

> to

> > divorce.

> >

> > Let us see when the marriage might have happened.

> >

> > There is no delay due to saturn.

> >

> > The following are the dashas:

> >

> > START........MD/AD...2nd sector...3rd sector...Age

> > --------------------

> > 10/16/1969 - ju/su - 01/21/1970 - 04/28/1970 - 19.3346

> > 08/05/1970 - ju/mo - 01/14/1971 - 06/25/1971 - 20.1368

> > 12/05/1971 - ju/ma - 03/27/1972 - 07/19/1972 - 21.4701

> > 11/10/1972 - ju/ra - 08/29/1973 - 06/17/1974 - 22.4037

> > 04/05/1975 - sa/sa - 04/05/1976 - 04/06/1977 - 24.802

> > 04/08/1978 - sa/me - 03/01/1979 - 01/23/1980 - 27.8109

> > 12/16/1980 - sa/ke - 04/30/1981 - 09/12/1981 - 30.5022

> > 01/25/1982 - sa/ve - 02/14/1983 - 03/06/1984 - 31.611

> >

> > There are also no indications of delayed marriage or no marriage.

> >

> > Hence, the marriage might have happened in the antar dasha of ma

> with

> > ju as MD.

> > Ma has less points for marriage and it is LoE. It is also LoE for

> > 12th house.

> >

> > Ma being placed in sign of mercury, it might have happened in the

> > second

> > sector from 3/1972 to 7/1972 when native was 21 yrs old.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> > , " krushanain "

> > <krushanain> wrote:

> > > Dear Manu and list members,

> > > Divorce may be due to so many reasons.

> > > 1) if indicated more then one marriage. In such case second

> > marriage

> > > may be successful. ( Depends upon the Strength of the

> significator)

> > > 2) If loss of marrital happiness. If it is indicated no

happiness

> > > from marriage, there may be multiple marriages and divorce.

> > >

> > > This is a chart with no marital happiness. Please find

> the

> > > reason.

> > > DOB 16th June 1950 ToB 08:15 Pm At Bombay 18N58, 71E50

> > > krushna

> > >

> > > , " Manu Batura "

> > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > Dear Krushnaji, Ash,

> > > >

> > > > If a native has indications of divorce in the chart and he

does

> > get

> > > > divorce that is fine.

> > > >

> > > > But how do we explain the scenario when some natives remarry

> and

> > > lead

> > > > a happy married life.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry to have repeated this question. I had asked this before

> as

> > > well.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Manu

August 5, 2004

Dear Manu,

When saturn is aspects, conjoins or influences House A,B AND C in

Rasi or also their lords in Rasi and Navamsa then there is delay.

It can be a combination but ALL 3 must be influenced.

So in this case :

Sa is aspecting 11th house (House C), itself is LoA and

its aspecting Mercury (LoB) sitting in 6th house with its 10th

dristi. So here (House A or LoA) AND (House B or LoB) AND (House C

or LoC) all 3 are influenced so full delay.

I hope its clear now.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura> wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> I have a question regarding full delay.

>

> Isn't it mentioned in the lessons that full delay occurs based on

the

> case when Sa aspects A, B and C, or it is LoA, LoB and LoC or it is

> placed with LoA, LoB and LoC. And it is also caused by many factors

> like Jupiter in libra, zeroes in the chart etc.

>

> In this chart, these factors were not present. Hence I concluded.

>

> Can you please explain me what are the conditions for full delay

> again?

>

> One more doubt, do other planets having more strength points than

> lord of 6th become samdharmi to lord of 6th? I had made this note

but

> I don't think it would be appropriate.

>

> In case this is true, in this chart all the planets shall become

> samdharmi to lord of 6th venus. That might explain the spoiling of

> the results.

>

> Kindly guide me.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73> wrote:

> > Dear Manu,

> > I am getting full delay. Sa is aspecting 11th house, it is LoA

and

> > its aspecting Mercury sitting in 6th house. Guru is in Aquarius

so

> > it cant check delay of Sa.

> >

> > This is my cursory glance ... I shall attempt it in detail later

on

> > or tomorrow..

> >

> > I am also still thinking on the quesiton asked by Krushnaji ...

on

> > the reason for no happiness in marriage in this chart....

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " Manu Batura "

> > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > Dear Krushnaji,

> > >

> > > I have tried to answer the question. Kindly let me know my

> mistakes.

> > >

> > > The following is the rasi chart of the native:

> > >

> > > ############################################# asc . sag 16°02'

> > > # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # su(4) gem 02°43'

> > > # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # mo(4) gem 13°28'

> > > # .. ra .. # .. ve .. # .. me .. # .. su mo # ju(5) aqu 15°07'

> > > # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # me(6) tau 10°22'

> > > ############################################# ve(5) ari 25°11'

> > > # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # ma(4) vir 09°39'

> > > # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # sa(2) leo 21°18'

> > > # .. ju .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # ra .. pis 11°08'

> > > # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. # ke .. vir 11°08'

> > > ############//////RASI//D-1//////############

> > > # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. #

> > > # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. sa .. #

> > > # .. .. .. #/////////////////////# .. .. .. #

> > > #############################################

> > > # // .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. #

> > > # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. #

> > > # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. ma ke #

> > > # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. # .. .. .. #

> > > #############################################

> > > Nakst[asc-ve, su-ma, mo-ra, me-mo, ve-ve, ma-su, ju-ra, sa-ve,

ra-

> > sa,

> > > ke-mo]

> > >

> > > Let us consider the quality of marriage:

> > >

> > > The 7th lord me is in 6th house and is also aspected by Saturn.

> > > The natural karak for marriage, Ve, is also lord of 6th house.

> > >

> > > These indications are not good for the house of marriage and

> point

> > to

> > > divorce.

> > >

> > > Let us see when the marriage might have happened.

> > >

> > > There is no delay due to saturn.

> > >

> > > The following are the dashas:

> > >

> > > START........MD/AD...2nd sector...3rd sector...Age

> > > --------------------

> > > 10/16/1969 - ju/su - 01/21/1970 - 04/28/1970 - 19.3346

> > > 08/05/1970 - ju/mo - 01/14/1971 - 06/25/1971 - 20.1368

> > > 12/05/1971 - ju/ma - 03/27/1972 - 07/19/1972 - 21.4701

> > > 11/10/1972 - ju/ra - 08/29/1973 - 06/17/1974 - 22.4037

> > > 04/05/1975 - sa/sa - 04/05/1976 - 04/06/1977 - 24.802

> > > 04/08/1978 - sa/me - 03/01/1979 - 01/23/1980 - 27.8109

> > > 12/16/1980 - sa/ke - 04/30/1981 - 09/12/1981 - 30.5022

> > > 01/25/1982 - sa/ve - 02/14/1983 - 03/06/1984 - 31.611

> > >

> > > There are also no indications of delayed marriage or no

marriage.

> > >

> > > Hence, the marriage might have happened in the antar dasha of

ma

> > with

> > > ju as MD.

> > > Ma has less points for marriage and it is LoE. It is also LoE

for

> > > 12th house.

> > >

> > > Ma being placed in sign of mercury, it might have happened in

the

> > > second

> > > sector from 3/1972 to 7/1972 when native was 21 yrs old.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > > , " krushanain "

> > > <krushanain> wrote:

> > > > Dear Manu and list members,

> > > > Divorce may be due to so many reasons.

> > > > 1) if indicated more then one marriage. In such case second

> > > marriage

> > > > may be successful. ( Depends upon the Strength of the

> > significator)

> > > > 2) If loss of marrital happiness. If it is indicated no

> happiness

> > > > from marriage, there may be multiple marriages and divorce.

> > > >

> > > > This is a chart with no marital happiness. Please

find

> > the

> > > > reason.

> > > > DOB 16th June 1950 ToB 08:15 Pm At Bombay 18N58, 71E50

> > > > krushna

> > > >

> > > > , " Manu

Batura "

> > > > <manubatura> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > If a native has indications of divorce in the chart and he

> does

> > > get

> > > > > divorce that is fine.

> > > > >

> > > > > But how do we explain the scenario when some natives

remarry

> > and

> > > > lead

> > > > > a happy married life.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry to have repeated this question. I had asked this

before

> > as

> > > > well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > Manu

August 5, 2004

Dear Ash,

Well, sorry! Sa can't be LoA, LoB and LoC at the same time. It can be

the lord of only one of A, B, C. Not even two.

Regards,