Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Hello Manu, This is a good question you have raised. But I think it depends on the beliefs and convictions of each person. So there can be many answers and very different ones. Personally, I think most problems in our human lives find their origin in the fact that we always want things to be different, and especiallly " better " than what they are. So we tend to be frustrated and try to look for " more " and " better " . In this way (because matters are a bit more complex than that) we create our own problems and worries because we cannot accept WHAT IS. So I suppose most remedies lie within ourselves because most problems also lie within ourselves. Now I agree with you that some charts seem or look to have less possibilities; our are less " blessed " ,but this is only our limited view. I think every chart or person has a reason for coming into this world and to be born at a certain time, even if we cannot grasp those meanings with our limited human means. As to remedies, I think this also depends on beliefs and cultural background of the person involved. Someone in a bad fix can say the following : " I need a remedy to make this awfull situation to stop " " I'm in a bad fix. What can I learn from this situation on a personal level? How and why did this happen ? Good and less good things come and go, this is how life is. I'll be patient and will be a wiser man/woman when things clear up " These approaches are of course completely different and pershaps also cultural determined up to a certain point I think that everybody has to follow his or her own intuition as so many complex and personal matters are involved. But it is a good question to reflect upon and find out what lies on the basis of our beliefs and expectations. Best regards Margarita Manu Batura wrote: >Dear Ash, Margarita, and group, > >I wonder why did He create people with nice charts and not so nice >charts. If KAS works (and it does work although I have seen only a >few charts), then it also means that God created differences. We may >link it to past life or may just call it luck factor or a part of >evolution. The debate can go on for ever. > >However, my question is: Are there techniques or remedies to lessen >the bad effects of antras. Should they be used? > >I have heard of remedies like stones, mantras, donations etc. Do they >work? Many people do beleive that the remedies have worked for them. >I am one of them. But at that time I did not know much about >astrology. > >Many posts have this as the last statement: 'Are there any remedies?'. > >If we are limited to indicate just the bad, worse, or worst periods >to people, what good are we doing? > >Ofcourse we can indicate when the bad period will end thereby giving >hope. However, a chart might have such worse combinations, that we >may not be able to see any favourable antra! > >Thanks & Regards, >Manu > > >-\ - >* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 >However, my question is: Are there techniques or remedies to lessen >the bad effects of antras. Should they be used? As per Prashna Marga and similar jyotish literatures, it seems that remedies are as "normal" in vedic astrology as some other things. But, it does not mean that it will be easily accepted by others who have a different cultural background. Question may be also asked : which remedial measures are fit for specific problems ? or Are all remedies effective as some astrologers claim? I think it depends on proper analysis of the prashna chart. All the best, Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 Hi All, There has just been a long discussion on the effct of remedies such as Mantras, Kavatches and gemstones on another list "Astrophecy" the final conclusion was that none of them really worked although there is no possibility of proving or disproving it. The final suggestion was that curing situations etc. was best done by getting down to it and making sure that the things worked out for you. Peter S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 " Peter " <petermay Sun, 8 Feb 2004 17:18:50 +1000 Re: Remedies Hi All, There has just been a long discussion on the effct of remedies such as Mantras, Kavatches and gemstones on another list " Astrophecy " the final conclusion was that none of them really worked although there is no possibility of proving or disproving it. The final suggestion was that curing situations etc. was best done by getting down to it and making sure that the things worked out for you. Peter S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hi Peter and List, My 2 cents…J In addition to what others have already interjected on the subject of remedial measures, I would just like to add that much of the astrological dichotomy and controversy surrounding the beliefs versus non-beliefs, with respect to effectiveness or lack thereof any type of remedial measures, lies in each individual’s unique belief system, and therefore cannot be measured or evaluated by another’s belief system. Another’s strong belief system can certainly influence you, but we must go beyond that and know the bottom line here of what is right for us as individuals. For example, some people believe in God and pray to God – others do not. To put this in better perspective, the fact is that some folks believe in the Monistic approach (such as there is only ONE reality and they are therefore responsible for singularly helping themselves in life), where as Dualists have a belief in a higher power greater than themselves, and therefore have faith that this higher power, such as God, has an ability to assist them in their struggles in life. So to be influenced by one approach versus another must be highly individual, and has a great deal to do with faith in a higher being, versus monistic beliefs. No one individual should blindly follow the opinions of another, or follow the opinions of one who has delegated themselves as judge and jury as to the effectiveness, or lack thereof, of remedial measures for another - whether for or against effectiveness of the same - as this is such a highly personal experience - and highly individual for each one of us. We alone must evaluate the experience for ourselves, based on our beliefs, and blindly follow no one’s belief. But what we should allow as evolved astrologer’s is freedom of choice – our individual right to believe or not believe without duly disrespecting another’s views as illegitimate. So, in my humble opinion, the bottom line is that there is no way of either validating or invalidating remedial measures, and one has to search one’s own conscience for what beliefs ring true to them, individually, and not be influenced by another’s strong opinions as to whether they work or not. Some find comfort in remedials, prayers, kavaches and gems, while others do not. So a bit of soul searching is necessary to evaluate one’s own belief system, and then an assessment as to whether or not one has faith in prayers or remedials can only then be uniquely evaluated for each of us as individuals. Freedom of choice. All the Best, Sandy Crowther http://www.jupitersweb.com Peter [petermay] Sunday, February 08, 2004 2:19 AM To: Re: Remedies Hi All, There has just been a long discussion on the effct of remedies such as Mantras, Kavatches and gemstones on another list " Astrophecy " the final conclusion was that none of them really worked although there is no possibility of proving or disproving it. The final suggestion was that curing situations etc. was best done by getting down to it and making sure that the things worked out for you. Peter S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 " Sandy Crowther " <sandy Sun, 8 Feb 2004 10:30:24 -0500 RE: Remedies Hi Peter and List, My 2 centsŠJ In addition to what others have already interjected on the subject of remedial measures, I would just like to add that much of the astrological dichotomy and controversy surrounding the beliefs versus non-beliefs, with respect to effectiveness or lack thereof any type of remedial measures, lies in each individual¹s unique belief system, and therefore cannot be measured or evaluated by another¹s belief system. Another¹s strong belief system can certainly influence you, but we must go beyond that and know the bottom line here of what is right for us as individuals. For example, some people believe in God and pray to God others do not. To put this in better perspective, the fact is that some folks believe in the Monistic approach (such as there is only ONE reality and they are therefore responsible for singularly helping themselves in life), where as Dualists have a belief in a higher power greater than themselves, and therefore have faith that this higher power, such as God, has an ability to assist them in their struggles in life. So to be influenced by one approach versus another must be highly individual, and has a great deal to do with faith in a higher being, versus monistic beliefs. No one individual should blindly follow the opinions of another, or follow the opinions of one who has delegated themselves as judge and jury as to the effectiveness, or lack thereof, of remedial measures for another - whether for or against effectiveness of the same - as this is such a highly personal experience - and highly individual for each one of us. We alone must evaluate the experience for ourselves, based on our beliefs, and blindly follow no one¹s belief. But what we should allow as evolved astrologer¹s is freedom of choice our individual right to believe or not believe without duly disrespecting another¹s views as illegitimate. So, in my humble opinion, the bottom line is that there is no way of either validating or invalidating remedial measures, and one has to search one¹s own conscience for what beliefs ring true to them, individually, and not be influenced by another¹s strong opinions as to whether they work or not. Some find comfort in remedials, prayers, kavaches and gems, while others do not. So a bit of soul searching is necessary to evaluate one¹s own belief system, and then an assessment as to whether or not one has faith in prayers or remedials can only then be uniquely evaluated for each of us as individuals. Freedom of choice. All the Best, Sandy Crowther http://www.jupitersweb.com <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> Peter [petermay] Sunday, February 08, 2004 2:19 AM Re: Remedies Hi All, There has just been a long discussion on the effct of remedies such as Mantras, Kavatches and gemstones on another list " Astrophecy " the final conclusion was that none of them really worked although there is no possibility of proving or disproving it. The final suggestion was that curing situations etc. was best done by getting down to it and making sure that the things worked out for you. Peter S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hi Sandy, I have just wrtitten to Mark and said in essence the same thing although not as elegantly as you put it. I just said that there is no way these remedies can be tested. Peter S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hello Peter, Kindly do not post messages related to remedies. The moderator has objected. The direction of the group should be to learn KAS. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " Peter " <petermay@p...> wrote: > Hi Sandy, > I have just wrtitten to Mark and said in essence the same thing although not as elegantly as you put it. I just said that there is no way these remedies can be tested. > > Peter S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Respected priyajiis there any chance for me to be go to abroad , in past their was two chanced but both time the trip were cancelled. also , kindly suggest me remedies for mental piece and improved my leadership quality as i am introward person. Pawan KothariD.O.B - 17/11/63Place _ Udaipur ,RajasthanTime 9.20 amKindly advise.RegardsPawan The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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