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Hello Anando,

Please specify if these charts are male or female

Thanks and best regards

Margarita

Anando Banerjee wrote:

 

>Namaskar to all,

>

>I would be highly obliged if learned members and gurus could help with a

>little guidance in my learning process. Given the following birth data for 2

>different persons, which person is more likely to have the following event

>and why.

>

>Event: April 30, 1995 Morning. Birth of daughter. (This same person married

>on January 17, 1994 Evening and this was a Hindu inter-cast marriage after 6

>years of courtship.)

>

>Birth Data:

>Person 1. August 14, 1963. 00:30am (13th/14th). GMT+5:30. Bhatpara, India

>(88E25, 22N53).

>Person 2. Same as above but TOB is 01:24am. That means a difference of less

>than an hour from Person 1.

>

>Please help and guide.

>

>Anando

>

>

>

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Dear Anando,

 

You have asked an interesting quiz, but we follow an Astrolgers code

of Conduct on this list. Such questions can be a mis use of this

devine science. Such questions can be asked to find out the " Real "

or " Biological " father of a child if that is in question.

 

If you are really interested in learning this system then you can go

through the lessons on file section of this list of on

http://krushna.sageasita.com and apply this system and check for

yourself.

 

In addition you can go through the archives of this list where lots

of valuable discussion on child birth have been held incluiding

timing of events. Similarly there are lesson on child birth.

 

All the best in your attempt,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

ps : Just in case you are unable to find the Astrologer's Code of

Conduct here it is.

 

An Astrologer's Code of Conduct by Krushna Jugalkalani

 

 

1) I know that astrology is a truth and a Godly science, so a misuse

of this science is an insult to my God.

 

2) I will use this science for social service and as a form of

worship to my God.

 

3) I am aware of the flaws in human beings and will not treat any

person with less importance when giving my guidance.

 

4) I will not misuse this science for the teaching of any religion,

social matter or any unlawful act. Giving my guidance in such matters

means my involvement in that act.

 

5) If I do not get an answer from the chart, I will NOT give my

guidance! No guidance is better than the wrong guidance and I will

accept my limitations about the chart as well as my own limitations

as an astrologer.

 

6) I will not abuse or malign any other astrologer, nor will I take

unfair advantage of another person's astrological knowledge by

advertising unnecessarily at their expense without proper and due

credit.

 

7) I will try to increase my knowledge and share it sincerely with

other people of similar interests.

 

8) I will behave truthfully and honestly at all times and keep my

conduct pure in heart.

 

9) Any information received from a client, in the course of giving

my guidance to that person, shall be kept in strict confidence.

 

10) I will not use any chart for purposes of public discussion by

identifying the native by name, unless I have his or her explicit

permission

 

 

 

, " Anando Banerjee "

<anandobanerjee@h...> wrote:

> Namaskar to all,

>

> I would be highly obliged if learned members and gurus could help

with a

> little guidance in my learning process. Given the following birth

data for 2

> different persons, which person is more likely to have the

following event

> and why.

>

> Event: April 30, 1995 Morning. Birth of daughter. (This same person

married

> on January 17, 1994 Evening and this was a Hindu inter-cast

marriage after 6

> years of courtship.)

>

> Birth Data:

> Person 1. August 14, 1963. 00:30am (13th/14th). GMT+5:30. Bhatpara,

India

> (88E25, 22N53).

> Person 2. Same as above but TOB is 01:24am. That means a difference

of less

> than an hour from Person 1.

>

> Please help and guide.

>

> Anando

>

>

>

>

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Thanks Margarita,

 

for pointing out the silly ommission of male/female (father/mother)

on my part.

 

However, since Mr. Ash has raised a Code of Conduct issue on my

question without knowing me or my reason for asking my question, I

think it is best that I leave this be for the time being.

 

Granted that I did not specify my reason for asking my question, but

does every posting to this list have to come with a disclaimer

that " this question is for learning purposes only and not to violate

social ethics or codes of conducts " ? If that be the case, then that

also should be specified boldly in the Code of Conduct and the list

should not be a public list but restricted to people who have

qualified in some way. For everyone's kind information, such

restricted lists on Astrology do exist also.

 

I would request list members, moderators et al to review the Code of

Conduct points supplied by Mr. Ash and apply the same to Mr. Ash's

reply. I think that the point raised by Mr. Ash about my question is

quite far-fetched in the present-day world, on a list like this, and

would not count anywhere, except for the student who is trying to

learn by experimenting with different charts and asking for guidance

on individual events from a knowledge-group for the same. Private

detectives, courts, lawyers etc. would be more pertinent for what Mr.

Ash is trying to point out.

 

Mr. Ash's suggestion or hint or accusation or whatever, that I am

trying to mis-use Astrological knowledge, is an outrage and goes

against the spirit of all new learners who may ask an innocent

question on this list. In fact, if I were a learned member, I would

also think twice before answering anybody's question, even if I knew

the answer perfectly, since such an answer may be " mis-used " by

somebody somewhere to misguide somebody.

 

I doubt that a confidence trickster would really go the long haul of

joining this list to learn an in-depth and quite rigorous variation

of Ashtakavarga Astrology, become proficient enough at it to be

accepted as a master, and then mis-use the same on

unsuspecting " real " or " fake " parents. Just going through the lessons

and archives and trying to figure things out is enough to get rid of

non-serious students, forget the quick-fix schemers.

 

I personally do not know Mr. Ash, and hence my comments are not

directed to Mr. Ash as a person but rather to his reply to my post. I

hope Mr. Ash and his interpretation of the Code of Conduct respects

that regardless of how senior or junior he may be.

 

Thanks anyway.

Anando

 

 

 

 

, margarita lettens

<dmlettens@s...> wrote:

>

> Hello Anando,

> Please specify if these charts are male or female

> Thanks and best regards

> Margarita

> Anando Banerjee wrote:

>

> >Namaskar to all,

> >

> >I would be highly obliged if learned members and gurus could help

with a

> >little guidance in my learning process. Given the following birth

data for 2

> >different persons, which person is more likely to have the

following event

> >and why.

> >

> >Event: April 30, 1995 Morning. Birth of daughter. (This same

person married

> >on January 17, 1994 Evening and this was a Hindu inter-cast

marriage after 6

> >years of courtship.)

> >

> >Birth Data:

> >Person 1. August 14, 1963. 00:30am (13th/14th). GMT+5:30.

Bhatpara, India

> >(88E25, 22N53).

> >Person 2. Same as above but TOB is 01:24am. That means a

difference of less

> >than an hour from Person 1.

> >

> >Please help and guide.

> >

> >Anando

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hello Anando,

Thanks for your point of view. I fully understand it But as I am

interested in the exercice could you tell me if these charts are from

male or female, I mean mother or father?

I will try to solve this

Best regards

Margarita

 

anando63 wrote:

 

>Thanks Margarita,

>

>for pointing out the silly ommission of male/female (father/mother)

>on my part.

>

>However, since Mr. Ash has raised a Code of Conduct issue on my

>question without knowing me or my reason for asking my question, I

>think it is best that I leave this be for the time being.

>

>Granted that I did not specify my reason for asking my question, but

>does every posting to this list have to come with a disclaimer

>that " this question is for learning purposes only and not to violate

>social ethics or codes of conducts " ? If that be the case, then that

>also should be specified boldly in the Code of Conduct and the list

>should not be a public list but restricted to people who have

>qualified in some way. For everyone's kind information, such

>restricted lists on Astrology do exist also.

>

>I would request list members, moderators et al to review the Code of

>Conduct points supplied by Mr. Ash and apply the same to Mr. Ash's

>reply. I think that the point raised by Mr. Ash about my question is

>quite far-fetched in the present-day world, on a list like this, and

>would not count anywhere, except for the student who is trying to

>learn by experimenting with different charts and asking for guidance

>on individual events from a knowledge-group for the same. Private

>detectives, courts, lawyers etc. would be more pertinent for what Mr.

>Ash is trying to point out.

>

>Mr. Ash's suggestion or hint or accusation or whatever, that I am

>trying to mis-use Astrological knowledge, is an outrage and goes

>against the spirit of all new learners who may ask an innocent

>question on this list. In fact, if I were a learned member, I would

>also think twice before answering anybody's question, even if I knew

>the answer perfectly, since such an answer may be " mis-used " by

>somebody somewhere to misguide somebody.

>

>I doubt that a confidence trickster would really go the long haul of

>joining this list to learn an in-depth and quite rigorous variation

>of Ashtakavarga Astrology, become proficient enough at it to be

>accepted as a master, and then mis-use the same on

>unsuspecting " real " or " fake " parents. Just going through the lessons

>and archives and trying to figure things out is enough to get rid of

>non-serious students, forget the quick-fix schemers.

>

>I personally do not know Mr. Ash, and hence my comments are not

>directed to Mr. Ash as a person but rather to his reply to my post. I

>hope Mr. Ash and his interpretation of the Code of Conduct respects

>that regardless of how senior or junior he may be.

>

>Thanks anyway.

>Anando

>

>

>

>

> , margarita lettens

><dmlettens@s...> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Anando,

> > Please specify if these charts are male or female

> > Thanks and best regards

> > Margarita

> > Anando Banerjee wrote:

> >

> > >Namaskar to all,

> > >

> > >I would be highly obliged if learned members and gurus could help

>with a

> > >little guidance in my learning process. Given the following birth

>data for 2

> > >different persons, which person is more likely to have the

>following event

> > >and why.

> > >

> > >Event: April 30, 1995 Morning. Birth of daughter. (This same

>person married

> > >on January 17, 1994 Evening and this was a Hindu inter-cast

>marriage after 6

> > >years of courtship.)

> > >

> > >Birth Data:

> > >Person 1. August 14, 1963. 00:30am (13th/14th). GMT+5:30.

>Bhatpara, India

> > >(88E25, 22N53).

> > >Person 2. Same as above but TOB is 01:24am. That means a

>difference of less

> > >than an hour from Person 1.

> > >

> > >Please help and guide.

> > >

> > >Anando

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Ash, Margarita, and other list members,

Please note that Mr Anando have asked the same question in so many other list (groups). From that it is clear that he is not having intension only to learn our system. What so ever may be his intension, such questions should not be answered, this is my honest opinion.

krushna.

 

margarita lettens <dmlettens wrote:

Hello Anando,Thanks for your point of view. I fully understand it But as I am interested in the exercice could you tell me if these charts are from male or female, I mean mother or father?I will try to solve thisBest regardsMargaritaanando63 wrote:>Thanks Margarita,>>for pointing out the silly ommission of male/female (father/mother)>on my part.>>However, since Mr. Ash has raised a Code of Conduct issue on my>question without knowing me or my reason for asking my question, I>think it is best that I leave this be for the time being.>>Granted that I did not specify my reason for asking my question, but>does every posting to this list have to come with a disclaimer>that "this question is for learning purposes only and not to violate>social ethics or

codes of conducts"? If that be the case, then that>also should be specified boldly in the Code of Conduct and the list>should not be a public list but restricted to people who have>qualified in some way. For everyone's kind information, such>restricted lists on Astrology do exist also.>>I would request list members, moderators et al to review the Code of>Conduct points supplied by Mr. Ash and apply the same to Mr. Ash's>reply. I think that the point raised by Mr. Ash about my question is>quite far-fetched in the present-day world, on a list like this, and>would not count anywhere, except for the student who is trying to>learn by experimenting with different charts and asking for guidance>on individual events from a knowledge-group for the same. Private>detectives, courts, lawyers etc. would be more pertinent for what Mr.>Ash is trying to point out.>>Mr. Ash's suggestion or

hint or accusation or whatever, that I am>trying to mis-use Astrological knowledge, is an outrage and goes>against the spirit of all new learners who may ask an innocent>question on this list. In fact, if I were a learned member, I would>also think twice before answering anybody's question, even if I knew>the answer perfectly, since such an answer may be "mis-used" by>somebody somewhere to misguide somebody.>>I doubt that a confidence trickster would really go the long haul of>joining this list to learn an in-depth and quite rigorous variation>of Ashtakavarga Astrology, become proficient enough at it to be>accepted as a master, and then mis-use the same on>unsuspecting "real" or "fake" parents. Just going through the lessons>and archives and trying to figure things out is enough to get rid of>non-serious students, forget the quick-fix schemers.>>I personally do not know

Mr. Ash, and hence my comments are not>directed to Mr. Ash as a person but rather to his reply to my post. I>hope Mr. Ash and his interpretation of the Code of Conduct respects>that regardless of how senior or junior he may be.>>Thanks anyway.>Anando>>>>> , margarita lettens><dmlettens@s...> wrote:> >> > Hello Anando,> > Please specify if these charts are male or female> > Thanks and best regards> > Margarita> > Anando Banerjee wrote:> >> > >Namaskar to all,> > >> > >I would be highly obliged if learned members and gurus could help>with a> > >little guidance in my learning process. Given the following birth>data for 2> > >different persons, which person is more likely to have the>following

event> > >and why.> > >> > >Event: April 30, 1995 Morning. Birth of daughter. (This same>person married> > >on January 17, 1994 Evening and this was a Hindu inter-cast>marriage after 6> > >years of courtship.)> > >> > >Birth Data:> > >Person 1. August 14, 1963. 00:30am (13th/14th). GMT+5:30.>Bhatpara, India> > >(88E25, 22N53).> > >Person 2. Same as above but TOB is 01:24am. That means a>difference of less> > >than an hour from Person 1.> > >> > >Please help and guide.> > >> > >Anando> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >---> > >This mail is Virus Free.> > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).> > >Version: 6.0.709

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Dear Krushna, Ash, listmembers

Krushna, you say in

your mail that even if you do not know the intention of Mr Anando, his

question

should not be answered !!

Ash you served the

code of conduct to this mister Anando for his querry.

Now I think there is a

big misunderstanding or else I’m missing something essential. Therefore

I would

be grateful to get your “honest” answers.

 

Is the fact that

posting to different lists a proof of Mr Anando not wanting to learn

Krushna’s system?

Why is Mr Anando’s

curiosity judged badly ? So many questions are asked on the list of

people who only want a free reading and often they are answered because

interested members want to learn; let's be honest about that. Without

curiosity there can never be interest for learning, so what is wrong

with being curious??

Ash served him the

ethical code of conduct for asking this question. Why??? Why were his

intention interpreted as trying to find out a real father, or trying to

misuse the system? I wonder !! Anyway these things never come up into

my mind so I don’t think other people ask questions with those

intentions. Perhaps he just tries to find out which system works, who

knows?

Ash tried to solve the

question anyway. So is it more ethical to solve the question behind the

back instead of doing it on the list? Is trying to solve an unethical

question ethical? I just wonder about ethics. I think the intention

behind everything, question or action counts. It’s not more ethical to

cheat behind somebody’s back than to do it openly, it’s less hurtful

for the one who is cheated, that’s all, but the act remains the same.

Some time ago there was

a similar question raised on a list were somebody asked to predict the

sex of twin babies yet to be born. It was a

female chart and Ash submitted it to Krushna. Krushna solved it and Ash

posted the answer on the list (don’t remember which one), but the

answer turned out to be wrong so we did a whole chat on that to correct

it. Now why was the code of ethics not raised on that occasion ???? Was

the intention behind this question more “noble” that the intention of

Mr Anando?? Who can judge that ?

 

 

I can only agree

with Mr Anando’s comments. I don’t know anything about him, but I feel

he got treated wrongly. This is the

first message he posted on our list I think. The answer he got is

surely not

going to give him courage to learn the system, if that is the purpose

of our list.

 

If questions are asked

on the list, why not answer them gracefully or otherwise just ignore

them if we

don’t feel like answering? Attributing bad intentions to people who ask

questions, even if they ask them on other lists, is not the way to act.

If you know that Mr Anando posted his question on other lists, so

members

of other lists also read the answers people get on our list and I

wonder what they think of the answer Mr Anando got on our list?

 

Our list has be spared

from inimical exchanges compared to other lists. I think we should all

try to

keep it like that. Mr Anando's question surely was not a reason to

start an argument, unless you are aware and sure of his bad intentions.

 

Best regards

Margarita

 

 

 

 

krushna jugalkalani wrote:

 

Dear Ash, Margarita, and other list members,

Please note that Mr Anando have asked the same question in so many other list (groups). From that it is clear that he is not having intension only to learn our system. What so ever may be his intension, such questions should not be answered, this is my honest opinion.

krushna. margarita lettens <dmlettens wrote:

Hello Anando,

Thanks for your point of view. I fully understand it But as I am interested in the exercice could you tell me if these charts are from male or female, I mean mother or father?

I will try to solve this

Best regards

Margarita

anando63 wrote:

 

 

Thanks Margarita,

for pointing out the silly ommission of male/female (father/mother)

on my part.

However, since Mr. Ash has raised a Code of Conduct issue on my

question without knowing me or my reason for asking my question, I

think it is best that I leave this be for the time being.

Granted that I did not specify my reason for asking my question, but

does every posting to this list have to come with a disclaimer

that "this question is for learning purposes only and not to violate

social ethics or codes of conducts"? If that be the case, then that

also should be specified boldly in the Code of Conduct and the list

should not be a public list but restricted to people who have

qualified in some way. For everyone's kind information, such

restricted lists on Astrology do exist also.

I would request list members, moderators et al to review the Code of

Conduct points supplied by Mr. Ash and apply the same to Mr. Ash's

reply. I think that the point raised by Mr. Ash about my question is

quite far-fetched in the present-day world, on a list like this, and

would not count anywhere, except for the student who is trying to

learn by experimenting with different charts and asking for guidance

on individual events from a knowledge-group for the same. Private

detectives, courts, lawyers etc. would be more pertinent for what Mr.

Ash is trying to point out.

Mr. Ash's suggestion or hint or accusation or whatever, that I am

trying to mis-use Astrological knowledge, is an outrage and goes

against the spirit of all new learners who may ask an innocent

question on this list. In fact, if I were a learned member, I would

also think twice before answering anybody's question, even if I knew

the answer perfectly, since such an answer may be "mis-used" by

somebody somewhere to misguide somebody.

I doubt that a confidence trickster would really go the long haul of

joining this list to learn an in-depth and quite rigorous variation

of Ashtakavarga Astrology, become proficient enough at it to be

accepted as a master, and then mis-use the same on

unsuspecting "real" or "fake" parents. Just going through the lessons

and archives and trying to figure things out is enough to get rid of

non-serious students, forget the quick-fix schemers.

I personally do not know Mr. Ash, and hence my comments are not

directed to Mr. Ash as a person but rather to his reply to my post. I

hope Mr. Ash and his interpretation of the Code of Conduct respects

that regardless of how senior or junior he may be.

Thanks anyway.

Anando

, margarita lettens

<dmlettens@s...> wrote:

 

 

Hello Anando,

Please specify if these charts are male or female

Thanks and best regards

Margarita

Anando Banerjee wrote:

 

 

Namaskar to all,

I would be highly obliged if learned members and gurus could help

 

 

 

with a

 

 

 

little guidance in my learning process. Given the following birth

 

 

 

data for 2

 

 

 

different persons, which person is more likely to have the

 

 

 

following event

 

 

 

and why.

Event: April 30, 1995 Morning. Birth of daughter. (This same

 

 

 

person married

 

 

 

on January 17, 1994 Evening and this was a Hindu inter-cast

 

 

 

marriage after 6

 

 

 

years of courtship.)

Birth Data:

Person 1. August 14, 1963. 00:30am (13th/14th). GMT+5:30.

 

 

 

Bhatpara, India

 

 

 

(88E25, 22N53).

Person 2. Same as above but TOB is 01:24am. That means a

 

 

 

difference of less

 

 

 

than an hour from Person 1.

Please help and guide.

Anando

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Dear Anando, Margarita and List Members,

 

Have you Anando and Margarita read my mail carefully ?

 

No where have I insinuated Anando nor have I question his intent. I

suggest Margarita and Anando please read my mail carefully before

jumping to any conclusions.

 

I have written in my mail that " We follow an astrologers code of

conduct " as Anando might not have have been aware of an existance of

such a code. That is given even before the Preface in Donnas website

in the Lesson in English section. So just in case Anando was still

unable to locate it from the search from file section I copied and

pasted it so that it could be read rather than spending time doing

searches. Also in the past someone had made some insinuations to

Dadhi and had asked me to paste the Astrologers code of Conduct in a

mail rather than just telling them to look up the archives.

 

I have then gone on to say that " SUCH QUESTIONS " giving 2 dates of

certain people and with data of marrriage, courtship and then finding

out the birth of child, without giving the " Intent " CAN BE USED TO

FIND OUT THE " REAL OR BIOLOGICAL " FATHER if that is in question. I

quote " CAN BE " .

 

This part is also acknowledged by Anando in his mail that the " intent

was not given " .

 

I have then gone on to say that if Anando was really intersted in

learning this system then to go to the file section and download the

lessons and also directed him to Donnas Web Site and the archives

giving Anando proper guidance on " How to learn KAS " .

 

I also did solve his chart and send it to Krushnaji and Margarita in

private as I DID NOT FEEL that I should be GIVING THE TECHNIQUE

unless Anando would make an attempt on his own first. In the first

line itself I have acknowledged that its an Interesting Quiz.

 

I have always tried to help one and all on this list in whatever way

I could and with my limited resources.

 

In any case, I feel saddned that I had to EXPLAIN my entire mail. I

hope its clear now.

 

If I have offened anyone that was not my intention so kindly forgive

me.

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

 

 

, margarita lettens

<dmlettens@s...> wrote:

> Dear Krushna, Ash, listmembers

>

> Krushna, you say in your mail that even if you do not know the

intention

> of Mr Anando, his question should not be answered !!

>

> Ash you served the code of conduct to this mister Anando for his

querry.

>

> Now I think there is a big misunderstanding or else I'm missing

> something essential. Therefore I would be grateful to get

your " honest "

> answers.

>

> 1. Is the fact that posting to different lists a proof of Mr

Anando

> not wanting to learn Krushna's system?

> 2. Why is Mr Anando's curiosity judged badly ? So many questions

are

> asked on the list of people who only want a free reading and

often

> they are answered because interested members want to learn;

let's

> be honest about that. Without curiosity there can never be

> interest for learning, so what is wrong with being curious??

> 3. Ash served him the ethical code of conduct for asking this

> question. Why??? Why were his intention interpreted as trying

to

> find out a real father, or trying to misuse the system? I

wonder

> !! Anyway these things never come up into my mind so I don't

think

> other people ask questions with those intentions. Perhaps he

just

> tries to find out which system works, who knows?

> 4. Ash tried to solve the question anyway. So is it more ethical

to

> solve the question behind the back instead of doing it on the

> list? Is trying to solve an unethical question ethical? I just

> wonder about ethics. I think the intention behind everything,

> question or action counts. It's not more ethical to cheat

behind

> somebody's back than to do it openly, it's less hurtful for

the

> one who is cheated, that's all, but the act remains the same.

> 5. Some time ago there was a similar question raised on a list

were

> somebody asked to predict the sex of twin babies yet to be

born.

> It was a female chart and Ash submitted it to Krushna. Krushna

> solved it and Ash posted the answer on the list (don't

remember

> which one), but the answer turned out to be wrong so we did a

> whole chat on that to correct it. Now why was the code of

ethics

> not raised on that occasion ???? Was the intention behind this

> question more " noble " that the intention of Mr Anando?? Who

can

> judge that ?

>

> I can only agree with Mr Anando's comments. I don't know anything

about

> him, but I feel he got treated wrongly. This is the first message

he

> posted on our list I think. The answer he got is surely not going

to

> give him courage to learn the system, if that is the purpose of our

list.

>

> If questions are asked on the list, why not answer them gracefully

or

> otherwise just ignore them if we don't feel like answering?

Attributing

> bad intentions to people who ask questions, even if they ask them

on

> other lists, is not the way to act. If you know that Mr Anando

posted

> his question on other lists, so members of other lists also read

the

> answers people get on our list and I wonder what they think of the

> answer Mr Anando got on our list?

>

> Our list has be spared from inimical exchanges compared to other

lists.

> I think we should all try to keep it like that. Mr Anando's

question

> surely was not a reason to start an argument, unless you are aware

and

> sure of his bad intentions.

>

> Best regards

>

> Margarita

>

krushna jugalkalani wrote:

>

> >Dear Ash, Margarita, and other list members,

> > Please note that Mr Anando have asked the same

question in so many other list (groups). From that it is clear that

he is not having intension only to learn our system. What so ever may

be his intension, such questions should not be answered, this is my

honest opinion.

> >krushna.

> >

> >

> >margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote:

> >Hello Anando,

> >Thanks for your point of view. I fully understand it But as I am

> >interested in the exercice could you tell me if these charts are

from

> >male or female, I mean mother or father?

> >I will try to solve this

> >Best regards

> >Margarita

> >

> >anando63 wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >>Thanks Margarita,

> >>

> >>for pointing out the silly ommission of male/female

(father/mother)

> >>on my part.

> >>

> >>However, since Mr. Ash has raised a Code of Conduct issue on my

> >>question without knowing me or my reason for asking my question, I

> >>think it is best that I leave this be for the time being.

> >>

> >>Granted that I did not specify my reason for asking my question,

but

> >>does every posting to this list have to come with a disclaimer

> >>that " this question is for learning purposes only and not to

violate

> >>social ethics or codes of conducts " ? If that be the case, then

that

> >>also should be specified boldly in the Code of Conduct and the

list

> >>should not be a public list but restricted to people who have

> >>qualified in some way. For everyone's kind information, such

> >>restricted lists on Astrology do exist also.

> >>

> >>I would request list members, moderators et al to review the Code

of

> >>Conduct points supplied by Mr. Ash and apply the same to Mr. Ash's

> >>reply. I think that the point raised by Mr. Ash about my question

is

> >>quite far-fetched in the present-day world, on a list like this,

and

> >>would not count anywhere, except for the student who is trying to

> >>learn by experimenting with different charts and asking for

guidance

> >>on individual events from a knowledge-group for the same. Private

> >>detectives, courts, lawyers etc. would be more pertinent for what

Mr.

> >>Ash is trying to point out.

> >>

> >>Mr. Ash's suggestion or hint or accusation or whatever, that I am

> >>trying to mis-use Astrological knowledge, is an outrage and goes

> >>against the spirit of all new learners who may ask an innocent

> >>question on this list. In fact, if I were a learned member, I

would

> >>also think twice before answering anybody's question, even if I

knew

> >>the answer perfectly, since such an answer may be " mis-used " by

> >>somebody somewhere to misguide somebody.

> >>

> >>I doubt that a confidence trickster would really go the long haul

of

> >>joining this list to learn an in-depth and quite rigorous

variation

> >>of Ashtakavarga Astrology, become proficient enough at it to be

> >>accepted as a master, and then mis-use the same on

> >>unsuspecting " real " or " fake " parents. Just going through the

lessons

> >>and archives and trying to figure things out is enough to get rid

of

> >>non-serious students, forget the quick-fix schemers.

> >>

> >>I personally do not know Mr. Ash, and hence my comments are not

> >>directed to Mr. Ash as a person but rather to his reply to my

post. I

> >>hope Mr. Ash and his interpretation of the Code of Conduct

respects

> >>that regardless of how senior or junior he may be.

> >>

> >>Thanks anyway.

> >>Anando

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> , margarita lettens

> >><dmlettens@s...> wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>>Hello Anando,

> >>>Please specify if these charts are male or female

> >>>Thanks and best regards

> >>>Margarita

> >>>Anando Banerjee wrote:

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>>Namaskar to all,

> >>>>

> >>>>I would be highly obliged if learned members and gurus could

help

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>with a

> >>

> >>

> >>>>little guidance in my learning process. Given the following

birth

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>data for 2

> >>

> >>

> >>>>different persons, which person is more likely to have the

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>following event

> >>

> >>

> >>>>and why.

> >>>>

> >>>>Event: April 30, 1995 Morning. Birth of daughter. (This same

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>person married

> >>

> >>

> >>>>on January 17, 1994 Evening and this was a Hindu inter-cast

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>marriage after 6

> >>

> >>

> >>>>years of courtship.)

> >>>>

> >>>>Birth Data:

> >>>>Person 1. August 14, 1963. 00:30am (13th/14th). GMT+5:30.

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>Bhatpara, India

> >>

> >>

> >>>>(88E25, 22N53).

> >>>>Person 2. Same as above but TOB is 01:24am. That means a

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>difference of less

> >>

> >>

> >>>>than an hour from Person 1.

> >>>>

> >>>>Please help and guide.

> >>>>

> >>>>Anando

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>---

> >>>>This mail is Virus Free.

> >>>>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> >>>>Version: 6.0.709 / Virus Database: 465 - Release 6/23/04

> >>>>

> >>>>*

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Dear Margarita and List Members,

 

I shall answer your Questions in CAPS.

 

 

, margarita lettens

<dmlettens@s...> wrote:

> Dear Krushna, Ash, listmembers

>

> Krushna, you say in your mail that even if you do not know the

intention

> of Mr Anando, his question should not be answered !!

>

> Ash you served the code of conduct to this mister Anando for his

querry.

 

ASH : I HAVE NOT SERVED ANY CODE OF CONDUCT. I HAVE COPIED AND

PASTED THE CODE OF CONDUCT SO THAT IT CAN BE READ IN 1 MAIL. I HAD

DONE THIS AS IN THE PAST I WAS TOLD IN A MAIL TO PLUG IN THE CODE OF

CONDUCT SO THAT ONE DID NOT SPEND TIME FINDING IT. I BELEIVE

MARGARITA YOU WERE A PART OF THAT DISUSSION THAT HAPPENED ON THIS

LIST.

 

 

>

> Now I think there is a big misunderstanding or else I'm missing

> something essential. Therefore I would be grateful to get

your " honest "

> answers.

>

> 1. Is the fact that posting to different lists a proof of Mr

Anando

> not wanting to learn Krushna's system?

 

ASH : IN FACT IF YOU READ MY MAIL, I HAD GUIDED ANANDO TO THE LESSONS

AND DONNAS WEBSITE APART FROM ARCHIVES. SO THAT HE CAN LEARN KAS.

 

> 2. Why is Mr Anando's curiosity judged badly ? So many questions

are

> asked on the list of people who only want a free reading and

often

> they are answered because interested members want to learn;

let's

> be honest about that. Without curiosity there can never be

> interest for learning, so what is wrong with being curious??

 

ASH : THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING CURIOUS. THAT IS COMMON

SENSE. THE PART ABOUT JUDGING ANANDOS QUESTION AS BEING BAD IS YOURS

AND ANANDOS ASSUMPTION. I SUGGEST YOU PLEASE READ MY MAIL CAREFULLY

AND ALSO MY PREVIOUS REPLY BEFORE MAKING ANY ASSUMPTIONS. INFACT IN

MY MAIL I HAVE GUIDED ANANDO TO PROPER CHANNELS I.E. FILE SECTION,

LESSONS, DONNAS SITE AND ARCHIVES SO THAT HIS CURIOSITY CAN BE

SATISIFED BY PROPER LEARNING. IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT ?

 

 

> 3. Ash served him the ethical code of conduct for asking this

 

question. Why??? Why were his intention interpreted as trying

to

> find out a real father, or trying to misuse the system? I

wonder

> !! Anyway these things never come up into my mind so I don't

think

> other people ask questions with those intentions. Perhaps he

just

> tries to find out which system works, who knows?

 

 

ASH : PLEASE REFER TO MY PREVIOUS MAIL. I HAVE EXPALINED THIS.

 

> 4. Ash tried to solve the question anyway. So is it more ethical

to

> solve the question behind the back instead of doing it on the

> list? Is trying to solve an unethical question ethical? I just

> wonder about ethics. I think the intention behind everything,

> question or action counts. It's not more ethical to cheat

behind

> somebody's back than to do it openly, it's less hurtful for

the

> one who is cheated, that's all, but the act remains the same.

 

ASH : I HAVE SOLVED THIS QUESTION AND SEND IT IN PRIVATE MAIL TO YOU

AND KRUSHNAJI. I DID WANT TO POST THE TECHNIQUE TO THE LIST BEFORE

ANANDO ANSWERED OR MADE AN ATTEMPT FIRST. WHAT IS SO UNETHICAL IN

THAT. INFACT I HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THIS IS AN INTERESTING QUIZ.

ANANDO HIMSELF HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT HE HAS NOT MENTIONED THE INTENT.

 

YOU HAVE USED VERY STRONG WORDS LIKE CHEAT WHICH IS NOT APPRECIATED.

IF I HAD ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE INTENTION OF ANANDOS THE I WOULD NOT

HAVE SOLVED THE CHART. HAS THAT THOUGHT OCCURED TO YOU OR SUCH

THINGS ALSO DONT COME TO YOUR MIND ? WHY WOULD I SPEND MY TIME TO

SOLVED IN DETAIL A CHART AND NOT PUT IT TO THE LIST ? I BELEIVE TOO

MANY ASSUMPTIONS ARE HAPPENING HERE SO LET ME CLARIFY MY INTENT. MY

INTENT WAS TO SOLVE THE CHART AND NOT GIVE THE TECHNIQUE UNLESS

ANANDO MADE AN ATTEMPT FIRST. IN ANY CASE I FEEL SADDENED YOUR

ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT ME.

 

 

> 5. Some time ago there was a similar question raised on a list

were

> somebody asked to predict the sex of twin babies yet to be

born.

> It was a female chart and Ash submitted it to Krushna. Krushna

> solved it and Ash posted the answer on the list (don't

remember

> which one), but the answer turned out to be wrong so we did a

> whole chat on that to correct it. Now why was the code of

ethics

> not raised on that occasion ???? Was the intention behind this

> question more " noble " that the intention of Mr Anando?? Who

can

> judge that ?

 

ASH : YOU ARE WRONG IN YOUR ASSUMPTION. IT WAS NOT A SIMILAR

QUESTION. THIS WAS AND THE IS FROM THE MAIL. AND THIS QUESTION WAS

ASKED TO YOU.

 

" > , " Anurag Agnihotri "

> <agneyastra> wrote:

> > Dear Margarita and List Members,

> > Birth details of a lady who is expected to give birth to twins

next

> > month are give below :

> >

> > DOB : 11th March 1971; Time : 2:58 p.m. ; Place: 27N24/79E37

India

> >

> > Kindly help analyse factors in her chart for birth of twins and

> also

> > attemp to predict male/female child(ren).

> >

> > With best regards,

> >

> > - Anurag "

 

 

>

> I can only agree with Mr Anando's comments. I don't know anything

about

> him, but I feel he got treated wrongly. This is the first message

he

> posted on our list I think. The answer he got is surely not going

to

> give him courage to learn the system, if that is the purpose of our

list.

 

ASH : PLEASE REFER TO THE EXPLANATION OF MY MAIL WHICH I THINK YOU

HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD. PROPER GUIDANCE WAS GIVEN TO ANANDO IN MY MAIL

TO HELP HIM LEARN THE SYSTEM.

 

>

> If questions are asked on the list, why not answer them gracefully

or

> otherwise just ignore them if we don't feel like answering?

Attributing

> bad intentions to people who ask questions, even if they ask them

on

> other lists, is not the way to act. If you know that Mr Anando

posted

> his question on other lists, so members of other lists also read

the

> answers people get on our list and I wonder what they think of the

> answer Mr Anando got on our list?

 

ASH : YOUR ASSUMPTION IS WRONG THAT ANY BAD INTENTIONS WERE

ATTRIBUTED. PLEASE REFER TO THE EXPLANATION OF MY MAIL POST.

 

 

>

> Our list has be spared from inimical exchanges compared to other

lists.

> I think we should all try to keep it like that. Mr Anando's

question

> surely was not a reason to start an argument, unless you are aware

and

> sure of his bad intentions.

 

ASH : AGAIN THIS IS YOURS AND ANANDOS ASSUMPTION WHICH IS NOT RIGHT.

PLEASE REFER TO MY PREVIOUS MAIL.

 

 

>

> Best regards

>

> Margarita

>

krushna jugalkalani wrote:

>

> >Dear Ash, Margarita, and other list members,

> > Please note that Mr Anando have asked the same

question in so many other list (groups). From that it is clear that

he is not having intension only to learn our system. What so ever may

be his intension, such questions should not be answered, this is my

honest opinion.

> >krushna.

> >

> >

> >margarita lettens <dmlettens@s...> wrote:

> >Hello Anando,

> >Thanks for your point of view. I fully understand it But as I am

> >interested in the exercice could you tell me if these charts are

from

> >male or female, I mean mother or father?

> >I will try to solve this

> >Best regards

> >Margarita

> >

> >anando63 wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >>Thanks Margarita,

> >>

> >>for pointing out the silly ommission of male/female

(father/mother)

> >>on my part.

> >>

> >>However, since Mr. Ash has raised a Code of Conduct issue on my

> >>question without knowing me or my reason for asking my question, I

> >>think it is best that I leave this be for the time being.

> >>

> >>Granted that I did not specify my reason for asking my question,

but

> >>does every posting to this list have to come with a disclaimer

> >>that " this question is for learning purposes only and not to

violate

> >>social ethics or codes of conducts " ? If that be the case, then

that

> >>also should be specified boldly in the Code of Conduct and the

list

> >>should not be a public list but restricted to people who have

> >>qualified in some way. For everyone's kind information, such

> >>restricted lists on Astrology do exist also.

> >>

> >>I would request list members, moderators et al to review the Code

of

> >>Conduct points supplied by Mr. Ash and apply the same to Mr. Ash's

> >>reply. I think that the point raised by Mr. Ash about my question

is

> >>quite far-fetched in the present-day world, on a list like this,

and

> >>would not count anywhere, except for the student who is trying to

> >>learn by experimenting with different charts and asking for

guidance

> >>on individual events from a knowledge-group for the same. Private

> >>detectives, courts, lawyers etc. would be more pertinent for what

Mr.

> >>Ash is trying to point out.

> >>

> >>Mr. Ash's suggestion or hint or accusation or whatever, that I am

> >>trying to mis-use Astrological knowledge, is an outrage and goes

> >>against the spirit of all new learners who may ask an innocent

> >>question on this list. In fact, if I were a learned member, I

would

> >>also think twice before answering anybody's question, even if I

knew

> >>the answer perfectly, since such an answer may be " mis-used " by

> >>somebody somewhere to misguide somebody.

> >>

> >>I doubt that a confidence trickster would really go the long haul

of

> >>joining this list to learn an in-depth and quite rigorous

variation

> >>of Ashtakavarga Astrology, become proficient enough at it to be

> >>accepted as a master, and then mis-use the same on

> >>unsuspecting " real " or " fake " parents. Just going through the

lessons

> >>and archives and trying to figure things out is enough to get rid

of

> >>non-serious students, forget the quick-fix schemers.

> >>

> >>I personally do not know Mr. Ash, and hence my comments are not

> >>directed to Mr. Ash as a person but rather to his reply to my

post. I

> >>hope Mr. Ash and his interpretation of the Code of Conduct

respects

> >>that regardless of how senior or junior he may be.

> >>

> >>Thanks anyway.

> >>Anando

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> , margarita lettens

> >><dmlettens@s...> wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>>Hello Anando,

> >>>Please specify if these charts are male or female

> >>>Thanks and best regards

> >>>Margarita

> >>>Anando Banerjee wrote:

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>>Namaskar to all,

> >>>>

> >>>>I would be highly obliged if learned members and gurus could

help

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>with a

> >>

> >>

> >>>>little guidance in my learning process. Given the following

birth

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>data for 2

> >>

> >>

> >>>>different persons, which person is more likely to have the

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>following event

> >>

> >>

> >>>>and why.

> >>>>

> >>>>Event: April 30, 1995 Morning. Birth of daughter. (This same

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>person married

> >>

> >>

> >>>>on January 17, 1994 Evening and this was a Hindu inter-cast

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>marriage after 6

> >>

> >>

> >>>>years of courtship.)

> >>>>

> >>>>Birth Data:

> >>>>Person 1. August 14, 1963. 00:30am (13th/14th). GMT+5:30.

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>Bhatpara, India

> >>

> >>

> >>>>(88E25, 22N53).

> >>>>Person 2. Same as above but TOB is 01:24am. That means a

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>difference of less

> >>

> >>

> >>>>than an hour from Person 1.

> >>>>

> >>>>Please help and guide.

> >>>>

> >>>>Anando

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>---

> >>>>This mail is Virus Free.

> >>>>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> >>>>Version: 6.0.709 / Virus Database: 465 - Release 6/23/04

> >>>>

> >>>>*

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Dear Margarita, Ash, and other list members,

why some persons are thinking that this system work and can be learned only if the question at present is in discussion will be solved.

When code of conduct is given here, i think every body should follow that. For the prestige of this science every member and all astrologer should follow.

When one person posts his question on other lists also, how serious he is learn this system.

In my opinion all the systems are equally good. Every system might be having some plus or minus points. If he wants to compare two systems, I would suggest him not to do that. I my self have learned so many other systems, and cant say that this is best or that is worst.

yes if the same question would have produced in different way, that this is the data of a person, and he got child birth on such and such date, how it can be justified in our system. That would have not created doubt in any person's mind.

Lastly I don't think that this is a very big issue. Yes answering any question is a obligatory part on members and moderators. If for any Question if a member/ moderator shows his frank opinion, that answering this question is against the ethics of this group. It is not wrong. It happened only when some persons were trying to answer, and if any body pointed out that answering such question may be against the ethics of the astrologers. On the contrary it is good thing.

I don't think any body should make it a question of prestige.

I request all honorable members to stop this issue here and here it self.

I also request Ash, not to keep himself aloof from the list.

 

margarita lettens <dmlettens wrote:

 

Dear Krushna, Ash, listmembers

Krushna, you say in your mail that even if you do not know the intention of Mr Anando, his question should not be answered !!

Ash you served the code of conduct to this mister Anando for his querry.

Now I think there is a big misunderstanding or else I’m missing something essential. Therefore I would be grateful to get your “honest” answers.

 

Is the fact that posting to different lists a proof of Mr Anando not wanting to learn Krushna’s system?

Why is Mr Anando’s curiosity judged badly ? So many questions are asked on the list of people who only want a free reading and often they are answered because interested members want to learn; let's be honest about that. Without curiosity there can never be interest for learning, so what is wrong with being curious??

Ash served him the ethical code of conduct for asking this question. Why??? Why were his intention interpreted as trying to find out a real father, or trying to misuse the system? I wonder !! Anyway these things never come up into my mind so I don’t think other people ask questions with those intentions. Perhaps he just tries to find out which system works, who knows?

Ash tried to solve the question anyway. So is it more ethical to solve the question behind the back instead of doing it on the list? Is trying to solve an unethical question ethical? I just wonder about ethics. I think the intention behind everything, question or action counts. It’s not more ethical to cheat behind somebody’s back than to do it openly, it’s less hurtful for the one who is cheated, that’s all, but the act remains the same.

Some time ago there was a similar question raised on a list were somebody asked to predict the sex of twin babies yet to be born. It was a female chart and Ash submitted it to Krushna. Krushna solved it and Ash posted the answer on the list (don’t remember which one), but the answer turned out to be wrong so we did a whole chat on that to correct it. Now why was the code of ethics not raised on that occasion ???? Was the intention behind this question more “noble” that the intention of Mr Anando?? Who can judge that ?

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I can only agree with Mr Anando’s comments. I don’t know anything about him, but I feel he got treated wrongly. This is the first message he posted on our list I think. The answer he got is surely not going to give him courage to learn the system, if that is the purpose of our list.

<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->

If questions are asked on the list, why not answer them gracefully or otherwise just ignore them if we don’t feel like answering? Attributing bad intentions to people who ask questions, even if they ask them on other lists, is not the way to act. If you know that Mr Anando posted his question on other lists, so members of other lists also read the answers people get on our list and I wonder what they think of the answer Mr Anando got on our list?

<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--><!--[endif]-->

Our list has be spared from inimical exchanges compared to other lists. I think we should all try to keep it like that. Mr Anando's question surely was not a reason to start an argument, unless you are aware and sure of his bad intentions.

 

Best regards

Margarita

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<!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->krushna jugalkalani wrote:

Dear Ash, Margarita, and other list members,

Please note that Mr Anando have asked the same question in so many other list (groups). From that it is clear that he is not having intension only to learn our system. What so ever may be his intension, such questions should not be answered, this is my honest opinion.

krushna. margarita lettens <dmlettens wrote:

Hello Anando,

Thanks for your point of view. I fully understand it But as I am interested in the exercise could you tell me if these charts are from male or female, I mean mother or father?

I will try to solve this

Best regards

Margarita

anando63 wrote:

 

Thanks Margarita,

for pointing out the silly omission of male/female (father/mother)

on my part.

However, since Mr. Ash has raised a Code of Conduct issue on my

question without knowing me or my reason for asking my question, I

think it is best that I leave this be for the time being.

Granted that I did not specify my reason for asking my question, but

does every posting to this list have to come with a disclaimer

that "this question is for learning purposes only and not to violate

social ethics or codes of conducts"? If that be the case, then that

also should be specified boldly in the Code of Conduct and the list

should not be a public list but restricted to people who have

qualified in some way. For everyone's kind information, such

restricted lists on Astrology do exist also.

I would request list members, moderators et al to review the Code of

Conduct points supplied by Mr. Ash and apply the same to Mr. Ash's

reply. I think that the point raised by Mr. Ash about my question is

quite far-fetched in the present-day world, on a list like this, and

would not count anywhere, except for the student who is trying to

learn by experimenting with different charts and asking for guidance

on individual events from a knowledge-group for the same. Private

detectives, courts, lawyers etc. would be more pertinent for what Mr.

Ash is trying to point out.

Mr. Ash's suggestion or hint or accusation or whatever, that I am

trying to mis-use Astrological knowledge, is an outrage and goes

against the spirit of all new learners who may ask an innocent

question on this list. In fact, if I were a learned member, I would

also think twice before answering any body's question, even if I knew

the answer perfectly, since such an answer may be "mis-used" by

somebody somewhere to misguide somebody.

I doubt that a confidence trickster would really go the long haul of

joining this list to learn an in-depth and quite rigorous variation

of Ashtakavarga Astrology, become proficient enough at it to be

accepted as a master, and then mis-use the same on

unsuspecting "real" or "fake" parents. Just going through the lessons

and archives and trying to figure things out is enough to get rid of

non-serious students, forget the quick-fix schemers.

I personally do not know Mr. Ash, and hence my comments are not

directed to Mr. Ash as a person but rather to his reply to my post. I

hope Mr. Ash and his interpretation of the Code of Conduct respects

that regardless of how senior or junior he may be.

Thanks anyway.

Anando

, margarita lettens

<dmlettens@s...> wrote:

 

Hello Anando,

Please specify if these charts are male or female

Thanks and best regards

Margarita

Anando Banerjee wrote:

 

Namaskar to all,

I would be highly obliged if learned members and gurus could help

with a

 

 

little guidance in my learning process. Given the following birth

data for 2

 

 

different persons, which person is more likely to have the

following event

 

 

and why.

Event: April 30, 1995 Morning. Birth of daughter. (This same

person married

 

 

on January 17, 1994 Evening and this was a Hindu inter-cast

marriage after 6

 

 

years of courtship.)

Birth Data:

Person 1. August 14, 1963. 00:30am (13th/14th). GMT+5:30.

Bhatpara, India

 

 

(88E25, 22N53).

Person 2. Same as above but TOB is 01:24am. That means a

difference of less

 

 

than an hour from Person 1.

Please help and guide.

Anando

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Dear Ravi

 

Lagnesh with Shani makes one lazy/inactive (Jataka Tattva 214/Prakeerna

Tattva)

 

When Lagna and ninth has benefics Chamara yoga is born. The condition is

that lagnesh must be strong (BPHS 38.11) but still it will give some

effects and Chamara is the attribute of royalty giving also eloquence

and scholarship. This is confirmed by the Mo+Ve in Lagna which is

Vaitanika Yoga but in papakartari. Jupiter is very strong in the chart

which shows good luck (navamsa uccha) and per Saravali this makes one

minister (influential position related to advicing others). AmK

connected to Surya gives buisnessman but this is denied due to Al/A7 in

2/12 relation.

 

Main doshas and negation of fruits are coming from Budha with MKS Surya

in twelfth house. This is serious as Budha lords Arudha pada and its in

vyaya from Atmakaraka Budha. This surely gives serious setbacks to

finances and careerlife and Parasundari is the remedy. Otherwise it

gives innovative person with very original ideas (Sankha yoga = 5L+6L).

 

Partial Kusuma yoga is present: Movable Lagna, Venus in Kendra and Mo in

trikona with benefic! It gives very influential position, hapiness and

makes one prime among family!

Family related part of this reading will be denied due to Moon being in

neecha navamsa.

 

All (except Guru) planets are between tenth and forth - this makes

middle part of life challenging (Chapa Yoga - Brhat Jataka 12.16).

 

You have yogas for success both in foreign and birth countries. Ninth

lord in ninth gives success in home country (Saravali 32.4). Worst

direction is West and North West - avoid these, whilst South West and

East are best for you. This is based on planets from Arudhapada and

Dig-bala.

 

Current period from 2005 to 2011 should give a lot of money but also a

lot of expenses. Especially 2005/2006 (Taurus ad) and 2008 (Libra).

 

You should start worshippingDevi as curse in second house is disposited

by Shukra yuti Chandra and Budha being neecha shows many blessing coming

from Parasundari. Get the initation and you will see a lot of change!

 

Good luck!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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Suresh Babu.A.G pisze:

>

>

> Dear Ravi sharan,

>

> You are heading towards a change within a years time, by which the

> present phase will mostly come to an end.

>

> >From May-2010 you may have to face some more changes or tensions as

> well. However, After dec-2010 you will find the time be far better.

>

> Your 4th lord moon in the lagna does not much Varga Bala. So also the

> venus with neecha navamsa. Though you may have the charishma due to

> Venus + moon in the Lagna, Mars+Saturn reduces its goodness due to

> agni-Maruthy yoga in the second. Check how you communicate with

> others. This will help you in the long run.

>

> For the above reasons, propitiate Kala Bhairava by doing poojas,

> naivedya, offerings of dhana etc. similarly Kamakshi devi also.

> Regular recitation of Durga devi stotra, & Shiva Saharanama & Vishnu

> Saharanama shall help you in a long way.

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Ravi Saran <ravisaran_aakash@

> <ravisaran_aakash%40>>

>

> <%40>

> Mon, December 21, 2009 11:35:25 AM

> please guide

>

>

> Sir,

> My Birth Details are as follows

>

> Ravi Saran

> 19-Mar-1972

> 8.37AM

> GORAKHPUR, UP

>

> I am in trouble as the current job situation is very bad because the

> company is in the sink. Should i be getting a good job and when will i

> be out of financial crunch.

>

> regards

> Ravi

>

>

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Respected Pt. Bhooshan Priya Ji,

 

Sadaar charah sparsh,

 

Guruji, my birth details are 12-July-1983; 02:20:00am; Aligarh (UP).

 

I work as a freelance writer ( entered this profession as writing had been my

passion ) but nor am I getting ample good writing projects neither am I able to

make a decent bare amount of regular income out of it.

I am planning to enter into some business to achieve financial independence from

it (as financially I am in a tight situation) so that I can pursue my passion of

writing without any financial pressures.

 

Guruji, I shall be highly obliged to you for your guidance in this aspect.

Please, help me so that my writing career gets more satisfying. Also, please

suggest me the field in which I should start the business venture and remedies

for attaining financial stability.

 

I apologize for extending yet another question but I request you to please guide

me with some remedies so that I can have an early marriage settlement with a

good matrimonial alliance.

 

I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your kind guidance.

May the Almighty always bless you with all the happiness and good health.

 

Saadar Pranaam,

Yours sincerely,

Shweta

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