wrong prediction of pvr narsimha rao jee

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Namaste Raghunath jee

i have read the previously the mails of PVR Narsimha rao jee he has predicted

that Maccain will be the next president  many of predcitions of jyotish gurus

go wrong what is the reason are they not true guru or some other thing as you

know many of peoples in india and other asian countries say that this is

ambigouis subject and not a science in such condition and such large forum if

any guru predcits and it goes wrong and then antiastrology circles make laugh on

amatuer learner like me that leave this is all superstition no one except God

can predccit they are just making moneis and fool of us but how defend ourselves

please give answer in elaborated way 

--- On Wed, 5/11/08, Raghunatha Rao Nemani <raon1008 wrote:

Raghunatha Rao Nemhani <raon1008

[vedic astrology] Re: Newly Elect US President's future Challenges

vedic astrology

Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 10:13 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Dr. Sitalu Ji,

 

You have made some good comments about the Challenges ahead of the

newly elected president.

 

In order to assess the future, we need to have some accurate data

which is the newly elected president's birth data and also the USA

birth chart. I know there are few different birth charts are available

and I have used one in my previous analysis for the USA chart.

 

http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/106351

 

I like to analyze a bit more in details once I find a convincing birth

charts of both the President and the USA chart in the near future.

 

I am sure, we can attempt to fine tune Mr. Obamas's birth time with

the recent winning of elections too.

 

If you or any one have come across a different Chart details of USA

other than what I have used in my above analysis, please share with

me, so that I can consider for my analysis.

 

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

http://www.Prashna- Astrology. com

 

vedic astrology, " Dr.Suneel Sitaula "

<astrologernepal@ ...> wrote:

>

> Barack Obama has won the 2008 presidential election Making history, &

> will become the 44th president of the United States. obama is the

> country's first African-American leader,he has secured more than the

> 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidential elections.

>

> Obama strode towards victory by capturing the states of

> Pennsylvania, the key battleground which McCain needed to keep his

> long-shot hopes of victory alive.he will be inaugurated as the 44th

> US president on January 20, 2009.

>

> A renowned Nepali astrologer Dr.S.Suneel has already declared that

> Barack Obama is Next President of USA & Now his prediction is

> successsful. some other astrologer from Russia has predicted that mac

> cain will win Us election.

>

> Now what will be the future of US President ?

>

> Barack Obama's Date of birth is August 4, 1961,Time:

> 19:24:00,Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

>

> According Vedic Astrology, He is Capricorn Ascendant, Leo Navamsa

> and Virgo Dreskana.Right Now he is passing Jupiter main period up to

> july 2012, jupiter & moon gave him political success. but the future

> is not easy, because jupiter is malefic planet for capricorn lagna,

> it increase many challenges & enemies.From april 2009 mars will be

> passing over him, mars is god of war. Again america has to fight

> agnist terrorism.

>

> 2009 september to 2011 january is most bad luck period for Us

> president obama, because in that time he will be shadwo of rahu &

> saturn. saturn & rahu both are evil planet in vedic astrology.

>

> In his birth chart eight house is occupied by mars & rahu, it also

> indicate unexpected happenings.

>

> Again in numerology his number is 4 & he is 44 th president of USA,

> 4+4= 8, cheiro says combination of 4 & 8 is not good.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Mr Ali,

 

Astrology is a different subject. It is an ancient subject which is

mentioned in hindu scriptures. The interpretation from a chart is not easy

as many combinations need to be kept in mind and also predictions usually

comes out true from a divine mouth. In ancient time the astrologers were

highly spirtually elivated and the prediction they make always comes out

true.

 

So it is not something referring to many books and making predictions just

like any other subjects. So what i want to convey is Astrology is true but

not many people can interpret it properly (not naming anybody in specific,

generally observed).

 

Regds,

 

Chandrasekaran.B

 

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Ali muhammed khan <shams0072000wrote:

 

> Namaste Raghunath jee

> i have read the previously the mails of PVR Narsimha rao jee he has

> predicted that Maccain will be the next president many of predcitions of

> jyotish gurus go wrong what is the reason are they not true guru or some

> other thing as you know many of peoples in india and other asian countries

> say that this is ambigouis subject and not a science in such condition and

> such large forum if any guru predcits and it goes wrong and then

> antiastrology circles make laugh on amatuer learner like me that leave this

> is all superstition no one except God can predccit they are just making

> moneis and fool of us but how defend ourselves please give answer in

> elaborated way

> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, Raghunatha Rao Nemani

<raon1008<raon1008%40>>

> wrote:

> Raghunatha Rao Nemhani <raon1008 <raon1008%40>>

> [vedic astrology] Re: Newly Elect US President's future Challenges

> vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>

> Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 10:13 PM

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Dr. Sitalu Ji,

>

> You have made some good comments about the Challenges ahead of the

> newly elected president.

>

> In order to assess the future, we need to have some accurate data

> which is the newly elected president's birth data and also the USA

> birth chart. I know there are few different birth charts are available

> and I have used one in my previous analysis for the USA chart.

>

> http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/106351

>

> I like to analyze a bit more in details once I find a convincing birth

> charts of both the President and the USA chart in the near future.

>

> I am sure, we can attempt to fine tune Mr. Obamas's birth time with

> the recent winning of elections too.

>

> If you or any one have come across a different Chart details of USA

> other than what I have used in my above analysis, please share with

> me, so that I can consider for my analysis.

>

> Regards

> Raghunatha Rao

> http://www.Prashna- <http://www.prashna-/> Astrology. com

>

> vedic astrology, " Dr.Suneel Sitaula "

> <astrologernepal@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Barack Obama has won the 2008 presidential election Making history, &

> > will become the 44th president of the United States. obama is the

> > country's first African-American leader,he has secured more than the

> > 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidential elections.

> >

> > Obama strode towards victory by capturing the states of

> > Pennsylvania, the key battleground which McCain needed to keep his

> > long-shot hopes of victory alive.he will be inaugurated as the 44th

> > US president on January 20, 2009.

> >

> > A renowned Nepali astrologer Dr.S.Suneel has already declared that

> > Barack Obama is Next President of USA & Now his prediction is

> > successsful. some other astrologer from Russia has predicted that mac

> > cain will win Us election.

> >

> > Now what will be the future of US President ?

> >

> > Barack Obama's Date of birth is August 4, 1961,Time:

> > 19:24:00,Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

> >

> > According Vedic Astrology, He is Capricorn Ascendant, Leo Navamsa

> > and Virgo Dreskana.Right Now he is passing Jupiter main period up to

> > july 2012, jupiter & moon gave him political success. but the future

> > is not easy, because jupiter is malefic planet for capricorn lagna,

> > it increase many challenges & enemies.From april 2009 mars will be

> > passing over him, mars is god of war. Again america has to fight

> > agnist terrorism.

> >

> > 2009 september to 2011 january is most bad luck period for Us

> > president obama, because in that time he will be shadwo of rahu &

> > saturn. saturn & rahu both are evil planet in vedic astrology.

> >

> > In his birth chart eight house is occupied by mars & rahu, it also

> > indicate unexpected happenings.

> >

> > Again in numerology his number is 4 & he is 44 th president of USA,

> > 4+4= 8, cheiro says combination of 4 & 8 is not good.

> >

>

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dear friend

 

albeit your mail is addressed to raghunatharao garu, am responding

since your concern is about scepticism on the application of

astrology in general.

 

as you rightly observed in the concluding in the last line, birth and

death are two things which are known only to god and astrologers are

not supposed to predict the death. some time ago, a renowned

astrologer predicted his own death date but committed suicide before

that ostensibly to make his prediction come true. hence i preach and

practice that birth and death are in the hands of god since it is the

god (soul) which enters or leaves the body.

 

just by seeing the birth details and casting a horoscope and even

getting aided by a prashna chart too, astrology cannot predict

whether the details are that of a dead or living chart. similarly,

the gender is also not predictable from the chart. some astrologers

have come with few techniques and formulaes to find out living or

dead and male or female chart but none are accurate with lots of hits

and misses. a couple of years ago, one poster presented birth

details of a native but did not reveal that it was that of his pet

dog which astrologers cannot predict as it is not told beforehand.

 

it is also my experience and belief that astrology cannot predict the

results of elections, cricket or rugby or football or tennis or

baseball or chess or racing championships. even when it is plain

simple fifty fifty equal chance of taking a risk of predicting this

or that, you dont find astrology principles working in these

matches. similarly you cannot predict stockmarkets, horseraces,

lottery and gambling. suppose i play " andar bahar " game of playing

cards which is very easy to predict with fifty percent chance of

winning, astrology cannot predict whether the card comes in or out.

 

so, my humble advise to you is that astrology must be meant to use in

the way it is desired to be used. it is also my personal belief and

practice that we shall not cast charts of those people who have not

asked us or approached us.

 

above all, besides astrology, you are aware of the karma theory,

blessings and curses, freewill, evil prayoga etc. driving the future

any which way and hence natives cannot purely blame astrology for

wrong predictions.

 

your lamenting about people laughing at astrology is understandable

because many new astrology branches like financial astrology are

invented. already analysts have become jokers as they daily give

three upward targets and three downward targets and they themselves

are not sure of up or down, plain simple fifty fifty prediction.

adding to these analysts, financial astrologers are now predicting

the stock market movements.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

vedic astrology , Ali muhammed khan

<shams0072000 wrote:

>

> Namaste Raghunath jee

> i have read the previously the mails of PVR Narsimha rao jee he has

predicted that Maccain will be the next president  many of

predcitions of jyotish gurus go wrong what is the reason are they not

true guru or some other thing as you know many of peoples in india

and other asian countries say that this is ambigouis subject and not

a science in such condition and such large forum if any guru predcits

and it goes wrong and then antiastrology circles make laugh on

amatuer learner like me that leave this is all superstition no one

except God can predccit they are just making moneis and fool of us

but how defend ourselves please give answer in elaborated way 

> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, Raghunatha Rao Nemani <raon1008 wrote:

> Raghunatha Rao Nemhani <raon1008

> [vedic astrology] Re: Newly Elect US President's future

Challenges

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 10:13 PM

Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Dr. Sitalu Ji,

>

> You have made some good comments about the Challenges ahead of the

> newly elected president.

>

> In order to assess the future, we need to have some accurate data

> which is the newly elected president's birth data and also the USA

> birth chart. I know there are few different birth charts are

available

> and I have used one in my previous analysis for the USA chart.

>

> http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/106351

>

> I like to analyze a bit more in details once I find a convincing

birth

> charts of both the President and the USA chart in the near future.

>

> I am sure, we can attempt to fine tune Mr. Obamas's birth time with

> the recent winning of elections too.

>

> If you or any one have come across a different Chart details of USA

> other than what I have used in my above analysis, please share with

> me, so that I can consider for my analysis.

>

> Regards

> Raghunatha Rao

> http://www.Prashna- Astrology. com

>

> vedic astrology, " Dr.Suneel Sitaula "

> <astrologernepal@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Barack Obama has won the 2008 presidential election Making

history, &

> > will become the 44th president of the United States. obama is the

> > country's first African-American leader,he has secured more than

the

> > 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidential elections.

> >

> > Obama strode towards victory by capturing the states of

> > Pennsylvania, the key battleground which McCain needed to keep

his

> > long-shot hopes of victory alive.he will be inaugurated as the

44th

> > US president on January 20, 2009.

> >

> > A renowned Nepali astrologer Dr.S.Suneel has already declared

that

> > Barack Obama is Next President of USA & Now his prediction is

> > successsful. some other astrologer from Russia has predicted that

mac

> > cain will win Us election.

> >

> > Now what will be the future of US President ?

> >

> > Barack Obama's Date of birth is August 4, 1961,Time:

> > 19:24:00,Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

> >

> > According Vedic Astrology, He is Capricorn Ascendant, Leo Navamsa

> > and Virgo Dreskana.Right Now he is passing Jupiter main period up

to

> > july 2012, jupiter & moon gave him political success. but the

future

> > is not easy, because jupiter is malefic planet for capricorn

lagna,

> > it increase many challenges & enemies.From april 2009 mars will

be

> > passing over him, mars is god of war. Again america has to fight

> > agnist terrorism.

> >

> > 2009 september to 2011 january is most bad luck period for Us

> > president obama, because in that time he will be shadwo of rahu &

> > saturn. saturn & rahu both are evil planet in vedic astrology.

> >

> > In his birth chart eight house is occupied by mars & rahu, it

also

> > indicate unexpected happenings.

> >

> > Again in numerology his number is 4 & he is 44 th president of

USA,

> > 4+4= 8, cheiro says combination of 4 & 8 is not good.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Member,

 

I entirely agree with Pandit Arjun ji.  Astrology has limitations.  With best of

knowledge, one finds limitations in all fields of specialty.  Most of the

details given by Padit ji are the most accepted correct approach to be made all

Astrologers, what ever the age they are in the field ( I am in the field for

last 46 years).  One should realize these limitations fully and never try to

cross the 'Laxman Reka' in Astrology. 

 

Well! it is always we find one or two become 'adventurous' in predictions. 

There was a friend who was in the field of Astrology, predicting moles on a

person, looking at Horoscope!  He gave me his reasons, which was beyond me to

get convinced.  Many times he was not successful at all!! Yet there are lots of

people came to him till he died and he made huge money in Astrology.  This

cannot be a success story for many to try 'adventure astrology' predictions. 

 

It is a very holy subject.  All respect and faith should be bestowed over the

Princiles of Astrology, largely accepted as correct.  Nothing more than that.

 

A.V.Pathi,                                      

North Carolina, 27514, USA

001-919-960-3833

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you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer,

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panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004

vedic astrology

Thursday, November 6, 2008 12:15:32 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: wrong prediction of pvr narsimha rao jee

 

 

dear friend

 

albeit your mail is addressed to raghunatharao garu, am responding

since your concern is about scepticism on the application of

astrology in general.

 

as you rightly observed in the concluding in the last line, birth and

death are two things which are known only to god and astrologers are

not supposed to predict the death. some time ago, a renowned

astrologer predicted his own death date but committed suicide before

that ostensibly to make his prediction come true. hence i preach and

practice that birth and death are in the hands of god since it is the

god (soul) which enters or leaves the body.

 

just by seeing the birth details and casting a horoscope and even

getting aided by a prashna chart too, astrology cannot predict

whether the details are that of a dead or living chart. similarly,

the gender is also not predictable from the chart. some astrologers

have come with few techniques and formulaes to find out living or

dead and male or female chart but none are accurate with lots of hits

and misses. a couple of years ago, one poster presented birth

details of a native but did not reveal that it was that of his pet

dog which astrologers cannot predict as it is not told beforehand.

 

it is also my experience and belief that astrology cannot predict the

results of elections, cricket or rugby or football or tennis or

baseball or chess or racing championships. even when it is plain

simple fifty fifty equal chance of taking a risk of predicting this

or that, you dont find astrology principles working in these

matches. similarly you cannot predict stockmarkets, horseraces,

lottery and gambling. suppose i play " andar bahar " game of playing

cards which is very easy to predict with fifty percent chance of

winning, astrology cannot predict whether the card comes in or out.

 

so, my humble advise to you is that astrology must be meant to use in

the way it is desired to be used. it is also my personal belief and

practice that we shall not cast charts of those people who have not

asked us or approached us.

 

above all, besides astrology, you are aware of the karma theory,

blessings and curses, freewill, evil prayoga etc. driving the future

any which way and hence natives cannot purely blame astrology for

wrong predictions.

 

your lamenting about people laughing at astrology is understandable

because many new astrology branches like financial astrology are

invented. already analysts have become jokers as they daily give

three upward targets and three downward targets and they themselves

are not sure of up or down, plain simple fifty fifty prediction.

adding to these analysts, financial astrologers are now predicting

the stock market movements.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy .com

 

vedic astrology, Ali muhammed khan

<shams0072000@ ...> wrote:

>

> Namaste Raghunath jee

> i have read the previously the mails of PVR Narsimha rao jee he has

predicted that Maccain will be the next president  many of

predcitions of jyotish gurus go wrong what is the reason are they not

true guru or some other thing as you know many of peoples in india

and other asian countries say that this is ambigouis subject and not

a science in such condition and such large forum if any guru predcits

and it goes wrong and then antiastrology circles make laugh on

amatuer learner like me that leave this is all superstition no one

except God can predccit they are just making moneis and fool of us

but how defend ourselves please give answer in elaborated way 

> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, Raghunatha Rao Nemani <raon1008@.. .> wrote:

> Raghunatha Rao Nemhani <raon1008@.. .>

> [vedic astrology] Re: Newly Elect US President's future

Challenges

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 10:13 PM

Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Dr. Sitalu Ji,

>

> You have made some good comments about the Challenges ahead of the

> newly elected president.

>

> In order to assess the future, we need to have some accurate data

> which is the newly elected president's birth data and also the USA

> birth chart. I know there are few different birth charts are

available

> and I have used one in my previous analysis for the USA chart.

>

> http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/106351

>

> I like to analyze a bit more in details once I find a convincing

birth

> charts of both the President and the USA chart in the near future.

>

> I am sure, we can attempt to fine tune Mr. Obamas's birth time with

> the recent winning of elections too.

>

> If you or any one have come across a different Chart details of USA

> other than what I have used in my above analysis, please share with

> me, so that I can consider for my analysis.

>

> Regards

> Raghunatha Rao

> http://www.Prashna- Astrology. com

>

> vedic astrology, " Dr.Suneel Sitaula "

> <astrologernepal@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Barack Obama has won the 2008 presidential election Making

history, &

> > will become the 44th president of the United States. obama is the

> > country's first African-American leader,he has secured more than

the

> > 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidential elections.

> >

> > Obama strode towards victory by capturing the states of

> > Pennsylvania, the key battleground which McCain needed to keep

his

> > long-shot hopes of victory alive.he will be inaugurated as the

44th

> > US president on January 20, 2009.

> >

> > A renowned Nepali astrologer Dr.S.Suneel has already declared

that

> > Barack Obama is Next President of USA & Now his prediction is

> > successsful. some other astrologer from Russia has predicted that

mac

> > cain will win Us election.

> >

> > Now what will be the future of US President ?

> >

> > Barack Obama's Date of birth is August 4, 1961,Time:

> > 19:24:00,Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

> >

> > According Vedic Astrology, He is Capricorn Ascendant, Leo Navamsa

> > and Virgo Dreskana.Right Now he is passing Jupiter main period up

to

> > july 2012, jupiter & moon gave him political success. but the

future

> > is not easy, because jupiter is malefic planet for capricorn

lagna,

> > it increase many challenges & enemies.From april 2009 mars will

be

> > passing over him, mars is god of war. Again america has to fight

> > agnist terrorism.

> >

> > 2009 september to 2011 january is most bad luck period for Us

> > president obama, because in that time he will be shadwo of rahu &

> > saturn. saturn & rahu both are evil planet in vedic astrology.

> >

> > In his birth chart eight house is occupied by mars & rahu, it

also

> > indicate unexpected happenings.

> >

> > Again in numerology his number is 4 & he is 44 th president of

USA,

> > 4+4= 8, cheiro says combination of 4 & 8 is not good.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I would just laugh. All that bunch of complicated and fansy Tithi

Pravesh techniques for a TOTALLY wrong prediction, man I know Sanjay

Rath is a bad guy, he who charges me 50 and never gives me the

magazine, and his wife didn't respond to my mail. Robert Koch left

them is a smart move.

 

I am glad I left the Jaimini mess, I just stick to the basics, the

parasharas and the western progressions, and progress to transits,

and those are good enough, for 90% of the predictions, I don't need

the JAIMINIS and then go to the wrong track and then get

disillusioned, well I learnt the hard way too.

 

 

So now I still use astrology sporadingly but I don't rely on that as

much, is just people are not qualified to be real astrologers in age

of kali, as Srila Prabhupada strong indicated in his books. And again

I learnt this the hard way after I got my heart severely broken

 

If you don't like what I wrote kick me off the group, but if you do

that you are also a closed minded " scholar. "

 

wes

 

 

vedic astrology , venkatachala pathi

<pathiav wrote:

>

> Dear Member,

>

> I entirely agree with Pandit Arjun ji.  Astrology has

limitations.  With best of knowledge, one finds limitations in all

fields of specialty.  Most of the details given by Padit ji are the

most accepted correct approach to be made all Astrologers, what ever

the age they are in the field ( I am in the field for last 46

years).  One should realize these limitations fully and never try to

cross the 'Laxman Reka' in Astrology. 

>

> Well! it is always we find one or two become 'adventurous' in

predictions.  There was a friend who was in the field of Astrology,

predicting moles on a person, looking at Horoscope!  He gave me his

reasons, which was beyond me to get convinced.  Many times he was not

successful at all!! Yet there are lots of people came to him till he

died and he made huge money in Astrology.  This cannot be a success

story for many to try 'adventure astrology' predictions. 

>

> It is a very holy subject.  All respect and faith should be

bestowed over the Princiles of Astrology, largely accepted as

correct.  Nothing more than that.

>  

> A.V.Pathi,                                      

> North Carolina, 27514, USA

> 001-919-960-3833

> Please contact me in ID kountinya29)All private readings are

chargeable.Disclaimer

> A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear

that no discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that

you receive from us is not to be considered as a substitute for

advice, program, or treatment that you would normally receive from a

licensed professional such as a lawyer, doctor, psychiatrist, or

financial advisor. A.V.Pathi and his team provide no guarantees,

implied warranties, or assurances of any kind, and will not be

responsible for any interpretation made or use by the recipient of

the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God we can

only try to give our best and hope that our efforts will improve the

life of our customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer and his team.

>  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, November 6, 2008 12:15:32 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: wrong prediction of pvr narsimha rao

jee

>

>

> dear friend

>

> albeit your mail is addressed to raghunatharao garu, am responding

> since your concern is about scepticism on the application of

> astrology in general.

>

> as you rightly observed in the concluding in the last line, birth

and

> death are two things which are known only to god and astrologers

are

> not supposed to predict the death. some time ago, a renowned

> astrologer predicted his own death date but committed suicide

before

> that ostensibly to make his prediction come true. hence i preach

and

> practice that birth and death are in the hands of god since it is

the

> god (soul) which enters or leaves the body.

>

> just by seeing the birth details and casting a horoscope and even

> getting aided by a prashna chart too, astrology cannot predict

> whether the details are that of a dead or living chart. similarly,

> the gender is also not predictable from the chart. some astrologers

> have come with few techniques and formulaes to find out living or

> dead and male or female chart but none are accurate with lots of

hits

> and misses. a couple of years ago, one poster presented birth

> details of a native but did not reveal that it was that of his pet

> dog which astrologers cannot predict as it is not told beforehand.

>

> it is also my experience and belief that astrology cannot predict

the

> results of elections, cricket or rugby or football or tennis or

> baseball or chess or racing championships. even when it is plain

> simple fifty fifty equal chance of taking a risk of predicting this

> or that, you dont find astrology principles working in these

> matches. similarly you cannot predict stockmarkets, horseraces,

> lottery and gambling. suppose i play " andar bahar " game of playing

> cards which is very easy to predict with fifty percent chance of

> winning, astrology cannot predict whether the card comes in or out.

>

> so, my humble advise to you is that astrology must be meant to use

in

> the way it is desired to be used. it is also my personal belief and

> practice that we shall not cast charts of those people who have not

> asked us or approached us.

>

> above all, besides astrology, you are aware of the karma theory,

> blessings and curses, freewill, evil prayoga etc. driving the

future

> any which way and hence natives cannot purely blame astrology for

> wrong predictions.

>

> your lamenting about people laughing at astrology is understandable

> because many new astrology branches like financial astrology are

> invented. already analysts have become jokers as they daily give

> three upward targets and three downward targets and they themselves

> are not sure of up or down, plain simple fifty fifty prediction.

> adding to these analysts, financial astrologers are now predicting

> the stock market movements.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy .com

>

> vedic astrology, Ali muhammed khan

> <shams0072000@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Raghunath jee

> > i have read the previously the mails of PVR Narsimha rao jee he

has

> predicted that Maccain will be the next president  many of

> predcitions of jyotish gurus go wrong what is the reason are they

not

> true guru or some other thing as you know many of peoples in india

> and other asian countries say that this is ambigouis subject and

not

> a science in such condition and such large forum if any guru

predcits

> and it goes wrong and then antiastrology circles make laugh on

> amatuer learner like me that leave this is all superstition no one

> except God can predccit they are just making moneis and fool of us

> but how defend ourselves please give answer in elaborated way 

> > --- On Wed, 5/11/08, Raghunatha Rao Nemani <raon1008@ .> wrote:

> > Raghunatha Rao Nemhani <raon1008@ .>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Newly Elect US President's future

> Challenges

> > vedic astrology

> > Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 10:13 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Dr. Sitalu Ji,

> >

> > You have made some good comments about the Challenges ahead of the

> > newly elected president.

> >

> > In order to assess the future, we need to have some accurate data

> > which is the newly elected president's birth data and also the USA

> > birth chart. I know there are few different birth charts are

> available

> > and I have used one in my previous analysis for the USA chart.

> >

> > http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/106351

> >

> > I like to analyze a bit more in details once I find a convincing

> birth

> > charts of both the President and the USA chart in the near future.

> >

> > I am sure, we can attempt to fine tune Mr. Obamas's birth time

with

> > the recent winning of elections too.

> >

> > If you or any one have come across a different Chart details of

USA

> > other than what I have used in my above analysis, please share

with

> > me, so that I can consider for my analysis.

> >

> > Regards

> > Raghunatha Rao

> > http://www.Prashna- Astrology. com

> >

> > vedic astrology, " Dr.Suneel Sitaula "

> > <astrologernepal@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Barack Obama has won the 2008 presidential election Making

> history, &

> > > will become the 44th president of the United States. obama is

the

> > > country's first African-American leader,he has secured more

than

> the

> > > 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidential elections.

> > >

> > > Obama strode towards victory by capturing the states of

> > > Pennsylvania, the key battleground which McCain needed to keep

> his

> > > long-shot hopes of victory alive.he will be inaugurated as the

> 44th

> > > US president on January 20, 2009.

> > >

> > > A renowned Nepali astrologer Dr.S.Suneel has already declared

> that

> > > Barack Obama is Next President of USA & Now his prediction is

> > > successsful. some other astrologer from Russia has predicted

that

> mac

> > > cain will win Us election.

> > >

> > > Now what will be the future of US President ?

> > >

> > > Barack Obama's Date of birth is August 4, 1961,Time:

> > > 19:24:00,Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

> > >

> > > According Vedic Astrology, He is Capricorn Ascendant, Leo

Navamsa

> > > and Virgo Dreskana.Right Now he is passing Jupiter main period

up

> to

> > > july 2012, jupiter & moon gave him political success. but the

> future

> > > is not easy, because jupiter is malefic planet for capricorn

> lagna,

> > > it increase many challenges & enemies.From april 2009 mars will

> be

> > > passing over him, mars is god of war. Again america has to

fight

> > > agnist terrorism.

> > >

> > > 2009 september to 2011 january is most bad luck period for Us

> > > president obama, because in that time he will be shadwo of rahu

&

> > > saturn. saturn & rahu both are evil planet in vedic astrology.

> > >

> > > In his birth chart eight house is occupied by mars & rahu, it

> also

> > > indicate unexpected happenings.

> > >

> > > Again in numerology his number is 4 & he is 44 th president of

> USA,

> > > 4+4= 8, cheiro says combination of 4 & 8 is not good.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > New Email addresses available on

> > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and

> @rocketmail.

> > Hurry before someone else does!

> > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

vedic astrology/message/100653

 

Namaskaar, Gurus!

 

Will you please help students understand whether the analysis in

Message # 100653 posted on 29-Feb-2008 is good, or, sheer

coincidental/rubbish?

 

Grateful for your replies -esp. that of PVRji.

 

Venkat

 

 

 

vedic astrology , venkatachala pathi

<pathiav wrote:

>

> Dear Member,

>

> I entirely agree with Pandit Arjun ji.  Astrology has

limitations.  With best of knowledge, one finds limitations in all

fields of specialty.  Most of the details given by Padit ji are the

most accepted correct approach to be made all Astrologers, what ever

the age they are in the field ( I am in the field for last 46

years).  One should realize these limitations fully and never try to

cross the 'Laxman Reka' in Astrology. 

>

> Well! it is always we find one or two become 'adventurous' in

predictions.  There was a friend who was in the field of Astrology,

predicting moles on a person, looking at Horoscope!  He gave me his

reasons, which was beyond me to get convinced.  Many times he was not

successful at all!! Yet there are lots of people came to him till he

died and he made huge money in Astrology.  This cannot be a success

story for many to try 'adventure astrology' predictions. 

>

> It is a very holy subject.  All respect and faith should be

bestowed over the Princiles of Astrology, largely accepted as

correct.  Nothing more than that.

>  

> A.V.Pathi,                                      

> North Carolina, 27514, USA

> 001-919-960-3833

> Please contact me in ID kountinya29)All private readings are

chargeable.Disclaimer

> A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear

that no discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that

you receive from us is not to be considered as a substitute for

advice, program, or treatment that you would normally receive from a

licensed professional such as a lawyer, doctor, psychiatrist, or

financial advisor. A.V.Pathi and his team provide no guarantees,

implied warranties, or assurances of any kind, and will not be

responsible for any interpretation made or use by the recipient of

the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God we can

only try to give our best and hope that our efforts will improve the

life of our customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer and his team.

>  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, November 6, 2008 12:15:32 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: wrong prediction of pvr narsimha rao

jee

>

>

> dear friend

>

> albeit your mail is addressed to raghunatharao garu, am responding

> since your concern is about scepticism on the application of

> astrology in general.

>

> as you rightly observed in the concluding in the last line, birth

and

> death are two things which are known only to god and astrologers

are

> not supposed to predict the death. some time ago, a renowned

> astrologer predicted his own death date but committed suicide

before

> that ostensibly to make his prediction come true. hence i preach

and

> practice that birth and death are in the hands of god since it is

the

> god (soul) which enters or leaves the body.

>

> just by seeing the birth details and casting a horoscope and even

> getting aided by a prashna chart too, astrology cannot predict

> whether the details are that of a dead or living chart. similarly,

> the gender is also not predictable from the chart. some astrologers

> have come with few techniques and formulaes to find out living or

> dead and male or female chart but none are accurate with lots of

hits

> and misses. a couple of years ago, one poster presented birth

> details of a native but did not reveal that it was that of his pet

> dog which astrologers cannot predict as it is not told beforehand.

>

> it is also my experience and belief that astrology cannot predict

the

> results of elections, cricket or rugby or football or tennis or

> baseball or chess or racing championships. even when it is plain

> simple fifty fifty equal chance of taking a risk of predicting this

> or that, you dont find astrology principles working in these

> matches. similarly you cannot predict stockmarkets, horseraces,

> lottery and gambling. suppose i play " andar bahar " game of playing

> cards which is very easy to predict with fifty percent chance of

> winning, astrology cannot predict whether the card comes in or out.

>

> so, my humble advise to you is that astrology must be meant to use

in

> the way it is desired to be used. it is also my personal belief and

> practice that we shall not cast charts of those people who have not

> asked us or approached us.

>

> above all, besides astrology, you are aware of the karma theory,

> blessings and curses, freewill, evil prayoga etc. driving the

future

> any which way and hence natives cannot purely blame astrology for

> wrong predictions.

>

> your lamenting about people laughing at astrology is understandable

> because many new astrology branches like financial astrology are

> invented. already analysts have become jokers as they daily give

> three upward targets and three downward targets and they themselves

> are not sure of up or down, plain simple fifty fifty prediction.

> adding to these analysts, financial astrologers are now predicting

> the stock market movements.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy .com

>

> vedic astrology, Ali muhammed khan

> <shams0072000@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Raghunath jee

> > i have read the previously the mails of PVR Narsimha rao jee he

has

> predicted that Maccain will be the next president  many of

> predcitions of jyotish gurus go wrong what is the reason are they

not

> true guru or some other thing as you know many of peoples in india

> and other asian countries say that this is ambigouis subject and

not

> a science in such condition and such large forum if any guru

predcits

> and it goes wrong and then antiastrology circles make laugh on

> amatuer learner like me that leave this is all superstition no one

> except God can predccit they are just making moneis and fool of us

> but how defend ourselves please give answer in elaborated way 

> > --- On Wed, 5/11/08, Raghunatha Rao Nemani <raon1008@ .> wrote:

> > Raghunatha Rao Nemhani <raon1008@ .>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Newly Elect US President's future

> Challenges

> > vedic astrology

> > Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 10:13 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste Dr. Sitalu Ji,

> >

> > You have made some good comments about the Challenges ahead of the

> > newly elected president.

> >

> > In order to assess the future, we need to have some accurate data

> > which is the newly elected president's birth data and also the USA

> > birth chart. I know there are few different birth charts are

> available

> > and I have used one in my previous analysis for the USA chart.

> >

> > http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/106351

> >

> > I like to analyze a bit more in details once I find a convincing

> birth

> > charts of both the President and the USA chart in the near future.

> >

> > I am sure, we can attempt to fine tune Mr. Obamas's birth time

with

> > the recent winning of elections too.

> >

> > If you or any one have come across a different Chart details of

USA

> > other than what I have used in my above analysis, please share

with

> > me, so that I can consider for my analysis.

> >

> > Regards

> > Raghunatha Rao

> > http://www.Prashna- Astrology. com

> >

> > vedic astrology, " Dr.Suneel Sitaula "

> > <astrologernepal@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Barack Obama has won the 2008 presidential election Making

> history, &

> > > will become the 44th president of the United States. obama is

the

> > > country's first African-American leader,he has secured more

than

> the

> > > 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidential elections.

> > >

> > > Obama strode towards victory by capturing the states of

> > > Pennsylvania, the key battleground which McCain needed to keep

> his

> > > long-shot hopes of victory alive.he will be inaugurated as the

> 44th

> > > US president on January 20, 2009.

> > >

> > > A renowned Nepali astrologer Dr.S.Suneel has already declared

> that

> > > Barack Obama is Next President of USA & Now his prediction is

> > > successsful. some other astrologer from Russia has predicted

that

> mac

> > > cain will win Us election.

> > >

> > > Now what will be the future of US President ?

> > >

> > > Barack Obama's Date of birth is August 4, 1961,Time:

> > > 19:24:00,Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

> > >

> > > According Vedic Astrology, He is Capricorn Ascendant, Leo

Navamsa

> > > and Virgo Dreskana.Right Now he is passing Jupiter main period

up

> to

> > > july 2012, jupiter & moon gave him political success. but the

> future

> > > is not easy, because jupiter is malefic planet for capricorn

> lagna,

> > > it increase many challenges & enemies.From april 2009 mars will

> be

> > > passing over him, mars is god of war. Again america has to

fight

> > > agnist terrorism.

> > >

> > > 2009 september to 2011 january is most bad luck period for Us

> > > president obama, because in that time he will be shadwo of rahu

&

> > > saturn. saturn & rahu both are evil planet in vedic astrology.

> > >

> > > In his birth chart eight house is occupied by mars & rahu, it

> also

> > > indicate unexpected happenings.

> > >

> > > Again in numerology his number is 4 & he is 44 th president of

> USA,

> > > 4+4= 8, cheiro says combination of 4 & 8 is not good.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > New Email addresses available on

> > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and

> @rocketmail.

> > Hurry before someone else does!

> > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Wes

Om Namah Shivay

 

It is a democratic world. You are free to express your views, you are

also free to choose the line of thought you like,nobody is forcing

you.

But you are not free to hurt others, your soul too does not allow

that.Listen to your soul not mind.

So accept the limitations of astrology as Mr. Pathi has pointed out.

 

Regards

Ashok

 

vedic astrology , " wesley " <ngjonhoi wrote:

>

> I would just laugh. All that bunch of complicated and fansy Tithi

> Pravesh techniques for a TOTALLY wrong prediction, man I know

Sanjay

> Rath is a bad guy, he who charges me 50 and never gives me the

> magazine, and his wife didn't respond to my mail. Robert Koch left

> them is a smart move.

>

> I am glad I left the Jaimini mess, I just stick to the basics, the

> parasharas and the western progressions, and progress to transits,

> and those are good enough, for 90% of the predictions, I don't need

> the JAIMINIS and then go to the wrong track and then get

> disillusioned, well I learnt the hard way too.

>

>

> So now I still use astrology sporadingly but I don't rely on that

as

> much, is just people are not qualified to be real astrologers in

age

> of kali, as Srila Prabhupada strong indicated in his books. And

again

> I learnt this the hard way after I got my heart severely broken

>

> If you don't like what I wrote kick me off the group, but if you do

> that you are also a closed minded " scholar. "

>

> wes

>

>

> vedic astrology , venkatachala pathi

> <pathiav@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Member,

> >

> > I entirely agree with Pandit Arjun ji.  Astrology has

> limitations.  With best of knowledge, one finds limitations in all

> fields of specialty.  Most of the details given by Padit ji are the

> most accepted correct approach to be made all Astrologers, what

ever

> the age they are in the field ( I am in the field for last 46

> years).  One should realize these limitations fully and never try

to

> cross the 'Laxman Reka' in Astrology. 

> >

> > Well! it is always we find one or two become 'adventurous' in

> predictions.  There was a friend who was in the field of Astrology,

> predicting moles on a person, looking at Horoscope!  He gave me his

> reasons, which was beyond me to get convinced.  Many times he was

not

> successful at all!! Yet there are lots of people came to him till

he

> died and he made huge money in Astrology.  This cannot be a success

> story for many to try 'adventure astrology' predictions. 

> >

> > It is a very holy subject.  All respect and faith should be

> bestowed over the Princiles of Astrology, largely accepted as

> correct.  Nothing more than that.

> >  

> > A.V.Pathi,                                      

> > North Carolina, 27514, USA

> > 001-919-960-3833

> > Please contact me in ID kountinya29@)All private readings are

> chargeable.Disclaimer

> > A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear

> that no discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction

that

> you receive from us is not to be considered as a substitute for

> advice, program, or treatment that you would normally receive from

a

> licensed professional such as a lawyer, doctor, psychiatrist, or

> financial advisor. A.V.Pathi and his team provide no guarantees,

> implied warranties, or assurances of any kind, and will not be

> responsible for any interpretation made or use by the recipient of

> the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God we

can

> only try to give our best and hope that our efforts will improve

the

> life of our customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer and his team.

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@>

> > vedic astrology

> > Thursday, November 6, 2008 12:15:32 PM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: wrong prediction of pvr narsimha

rao

> jee

> >

> >

> > dear friend

> >

> > albeit your mail is addressed to raghunatharao garu, am

responding

> > since your concern is about scepticism on the application of

> > astrology in general.

> >

> > as you rightly observed in the concluding in the last line, birth

> and

> > death are two things which are known only to god and astrologers

> are

> > not supposed to predict the death. some time ago, a renowned

> > astrologer predicted his own death date but committed suicide

> before

> > that ostensibly to make his prediction come true. hence i preach

> and

> > practice that birth and death are in the hands of god since it is

> the

> > god (soul) which enters or leaves the body.

> >

> > just by seeing the birth details and casting a horoscope and even

> > getting aided by a prashna chart too, astrology cannot predict

> > whether the details are that of a dead or living chart.

similarly,

> > the gender is also not predictable from the chart. some

astrologers

> > have come with few techniques and formulaes to find out living or

> > dead and male or female chart but none are accurate with lots of

> hits

> > and misses. a couple of years ago, one poster presented birth

> > details of a native but did not reveal that it was that of his

pet

> > dog which astrologers cannot predict as it is not told beforehand.

> >

> > it is also my experience and belief that astrology cannot predict

> the

> > results of elections, cricket or rugby or football or tennis or

> > baseball or chess or racing championships. even when it is plain

> > simple fifty fifty equal chance of taking a risk of predicting

this

> > or that, you dont find astrology principles working in these

> > matches. similarly you cannot predict stockmarkets, horseraces,

> > lottery and gambling. suppose i play " andar bahar " game of

playing

> > cards which is very easy to predict with fifty percent chance of

> > winning, astrology cannot predict whether the card comes in or

out.

> >

> > so, my humble advise to you is that astrology must be meant to

use

> in

> > the way it is desired to be used. it is also my personal belief

and

> > practice that we shall not cast charts of those people who have

not

> > asked us or approached us.

> >

> > above all, besides astrology, you are aware of the karma theory,

> > blessings and curses, freewill, evil prayoga etc. driving the

> future

> > any which way and hence natives cannot purely blame astrology for

> > wrong predictions.

> >

> > your lamenting about people laughing at astrology is

understandable

> > because many new astrology branches like financial astrology are

> > invented. already analysts have become jokers as they daily give

> > three upward targets and three downward targets and they

themselves

> > are not sure of up or down, plain simple fifty fifty prediction.

> > adding to these analysts, financial astrologers are now

predicting

> > the stock market movements.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

> > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> >

> > vedic astrology, Ali muhammed khan

> > <shams0072000@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Raghunath jee

> > > i have read the previously the mails of PVR Narsimha rao jee he

> has

> > predicted that Maccain will be the next president  many of

> > predcitions of jyotish gurus go wrong what is the reason are they

> not

> > true guru or some other thing as you know many of peoples in

india

> > and other asian countries say that this is ambigouis subject and

> not

> > a science in such condition and such large forum if any guru

> predcits

> > and it goes wrong and then antiastrology circles make laugh on

> > amatuer learner like me that leave this is all superstition no

one

> > except God can predccit they are just making moneis and fool of

us

> > but how defend ourselves please give answer in elaborated way 

> > > --- On Wed, 5/11/08, Raghunatha Rao Nemani <raon1008@ .> wrote:

> > > Raghunatha Rao Nemhani <raon1008@ .>

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Newly Elect US President's

future

> > Challenges

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 10:13 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste Dr. Sitalu Ji,

> > >

> > > You have made some good comments about the Challenges ahead of

the

> > > newly elected president.

> > >

> > > In order to assess the future, we need to have some accurate

data

> > > which is the newly elected president's birth data and also the

USA

> > > birth chart. I know there are few different birth charts are

> > available

> > > and I have used one in my previous analysis for the USA chart.

> > >

> > > http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/106351

> > >

> > > I like to analyze a bit more in details once I find a

convincing

> > birth

> > > charts of both the President and the USA chart in the near

future.

> > >

> > > I am sure, we can attempt to fine tune Mr. Obamas's birth time

> with

> > > the recent winning of elections too.

> > >

> > > If you or any one have come across a different Chart details of

> USA

> > > other than what I have used in my above analysis, please share

> with

> > > me, so that I can consider for my analysis.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Raghunatha Rao

> > > http://www.Prashna- Astrology. com

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, " Dr.Suneel Sitaula "

> > > <astrologernepal@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Barack Obama has won the 2008 presidential election Making

> > history, &

> > > > will become the 44th president of the United States. obama is

> the

> > > > country's first African-American leader,he has secured more

> than

> > the

> > > > 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidential elections.

> > > >

> > > > Obama strode towards victory by capturing the states of

> > > > Pennsylvania, the key battleground which McCain needed to

keep

> > his

> > > > long-shot hopes of victory alive.he will be inaugurated as

the

> > 44th

> > > > US president on January 20, 2009.

> > > >

> > > > A renowned Nepali astrologer Dr.S.Suneel has already declared

> > that

> > > > Barack Obama is Next President of USA & Now his prediction is

> > > > successsful. some other astrologer from Russia has predicted

> that

> > mac

> > > > cain will win Us election.

> > > >

> > > > Now what will be the future of US President ?

> > > >

> > > > Barack Obama's Date of birth is August 4, 1961,Time:

> > > > 19:24:00,Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

> > > >

> > > > According Vedic Astrology, He is Capricorn Ascendant, Leo

> Navamsa

> > > > and Virgo Dreskana.Right Now he is passing Jupiter main

period

> up

> > to

> > > > july 2012, jupiter & moon gave him political success. but the

> > future

> > > > is not easy, because jupiter is malefic planet for capricorn

> > lagna,

> > > > it increase many challenges & enemies.From april 2009 mars

will

> > be

> > > > passing over him, mars is god of war. Again america has to

> fight

> > > > agnist terrorism.

> > > >

> > > > 2009 september to 2011 january is most bad luck period for Us

> > > > president obama, because in that time he will be shadwo of

rahu

> &

> > > > saturn. saturn & rahu both are evil planet in vedic

astrology.

> > > >

> > > > In his birth chart eight house is occupied by mars & rahu, it

> > also

> > > > indicate unexpected happenings.

> > > >

> > > > Again in numerology his number is 4 & he is 44 th president

of

> > USA,

> > > > 4+4= 8, cheiro says combination of 4 & 8 is not good.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > New Email addresses available on

> > > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail

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> > @rocketmail.

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Dear Sh.Pandit ji,

I am completely agree with each word /line of your views.Astrologers must not

make hurry to give any statement.To do predictions regarding natural calamity is

almost impossible for astrologers community as yet,therefore we have to face a

lot of criticism from scientist.It is not sensible too for astrologers to

declare one theory the best among others as Parashari, Jaimini or KP etc.It is

more important to search new findings that are beneficial for mankind by using

any theory.

 

Regards

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--- On Thu, 11/6/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

 

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004

[vedic astrology] Re: wrong prediction of pvr narsimha rao jee

vedic astrology

Thursday, November 6, 2008, 10:45 PM

 

dear friend

 

albeit your mail is addressed to raghunatharao garu, am responding

since your concern is about scepticism on the application of

astrology in general.

 

as you rightly observed in the concluding in the last line, birth and

death are two things which are known only to god and astrologers are

not supposed to predict the death. some time ago, a renowned

astrologer predicted his own death date but committed suicide before

that ostensibly to make his prediction come true. hence i preach and

practice that birth and death are in the hands of god since it is the

god (soul) which enters or leaves the body.

 

just by seeing the birth details and casting a horoscope and even

getting aided by a prashna chart too, astrology cannot predict

whether the details are that of a dead or living chart. similarly,

the gender is also not predictable from the chart. some astrologers

have come with few techniques and formulaes to find out living or

dead and male or female chart but none are accurate with lots of hits

and misses. a couple of years ago, one poster presented birth

details of a native but did not reveal that it was that of his pet

dog which astrologers cannot predict as it is not told beforehand.

 

it is also my experience and belief that astrology cannot predict the

results of elections, cricket or rugby or football or tennis or

baseball or chess or racing championships. even when it is plain

simple fifty fifty equal chance of taking a risk of predicting this

or that, you dont find astrology principles working in these

matches. similarly you cannot predict stockmarkets, horseraces,

lottery and gambling. suppose i play " andar bahar " game of playing

cards which is very easy to predict with fifty percent chance of

winning, astrology cannot predict whether the card comes in or out.

 

so, my humble advise to you is that astrology must be meant to use in

the way it is desired to be used. it is also my personal belief and

practice that we shall not cast charts of those people who have not

asked us or approached us.

 

above all, besides astrology, you are aware of the karma theory,

blessings and curses, freewill, evil prayoga etc. driving the future

any which way and hence natives cannot purely blame astrology for

wrong predictions.

 

your lamenting about people laughing at astrology is understandable

because many new astrology branches like financial astrology are

invented. already analysts have become jokers as they daily give

three upward targets and three downward targets and they themselves

are not sure of up or down, plain simple fifty fifty prediction.

adding to these analysts, financial astrologers are now predicting

the stock market movements.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

vedic astrology , Ali muhammed khan

<shams0072000 wrote:

>

> Namaste Raghunath jee

> i have read the previously the mails of PVR Narsimha rao jee he has

predicted that Maccain will be the next president  many of

predcitions of jyotish gurus go wrong what is the reason are they not

true guru or some other thing as you know many of peoples in india

and other asian countries say that this is ambigouis subject and not

a science in such condition and such large forum if any guru predcits

and it goes wrong and then antiastrology circles make laugh on

amatuer learner like me that leave this is all superstition no one

except God can predccit they are just making moneis and fool of us

but how defend ourselves please give answer in elaborated way 

> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, Raghunatha Rao Nemani <raon1008 wrote:

> Raghunatha Rao Nemhani <raon1008

> [vedic astrology] Re: Newly Elect US President's future

Challenges

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 10:13 PM

Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Dr. Sitalu Ji,

>

> You have made some good comments about the Challenges ahead of the

> newly elected president.

>

> In order to assess the future, we need to have some accurate data

> which is the newly elected president's birth data and also the USA

> birth chart. I know there are few different birth charts are

available

> and I have used one in my previous analysis for the USA chart.

>

> http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/106351

>

> I like to analyze a bit more in details once I find a convincing

birth

> charts of both the President and the USA chart in the near future.

>

> I am sure, we can attempt to fine tune Mr. Obamas's birth time with

> the recent winning of elections too.

>

> If you or any one have come across a different Chart details of USA

> other than what I have used in my above analysis, please share with

> me, so that I can consider for my analysis.

>

> Regards

> Raghunatha Rao

> http://www.Prashna- Astrology. com

>

> vedic astrology, " Dr.Suneel Sitaula "

> <astrologernepal@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Barack Obama has won the 2008 presidential election Making

history, &

> > will become the 44th president of the United States. obama is the

> > country's first African-American leader,he has secured more than

the

> > 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidential elections.

> >

> > Obama strode towards victory by capturing the states of

> > Pennsylvania, the key battleground which McCain needed to keep

his

> > long-shot hopes of victory alive.he will be inaugurated as the

44th

> > US president on January 20, 2009.

> >

> > A renowned Nepali astrologer Dr.S.Suneel has already declared

that

> > Barack Obama is Next President of USA & Now his prediction is

> > successsful. some other astrologer from Russia has predicted that

mac

> > cain will win Us election.

> >

> > Now what will be the future of US President ?

> >

> > Barack Obama's Date of birth is August 4, 1961,Time:

> > 19:24:00,Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

> >

> > According Vedic Astrology, He is Capricorn Ascendant, Leo Navamsa

> > and Virgo Dreskana.Right Now he is passing Jupiter main period up

to

> > july 2012, jupiter & moon gave him political success. but the

future

> > is not easy, because jupiter is malefic planet for capricorn

lagna,

> > it increase many challenges & enemies.From april 2009 mars will

be

> > passing over him, mars is god of war. Again america has to fight

> > agnist terrorism.

> >

> > 2009 september to 2011 january is most bad luck period for Us

> > president obama, because in that time he will be shadwo of rahu &

 

> > saturn. saturn & rahu both are evil planet in vedic astrology.

> >

> > In his birth chart eight house is occupied by mars & rahu, it

also

> > indicate unexpected happenings.

> >

> > Again in numerology his number is 4 & he is 44 th president of

USA,

> > 4+4= 8, cheiro says combination of 4 & 8 is not good.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

 

I thought about it long ago and wanted to write sometime. Now I think is the

right time to say this.

 

Any science / art etc. that deals with future cannot be 100% accurate or true.

Astrology is also a science or say a super science which deal with enormously

complex things that needs to be predicted (Human Life is so complex if you view

it from a top view there is education, parents, health, mind, relationships

(friends, spouse, brothers, sisters...), effects of place, diseases, wealth,

house, travelling, different people, beahviour and so on...and people expect

that astrologers should be correct 100% of the time. It can not be so.

 

I give you the following examples other than astrology which deal with future.

Think and observe do they come true 100% of the times.

 

1. Weather Experts - For very short duration, they can be accurate because they

already see the wind that will be there in your town in next day or two. Also,

it is very limited study as compared to astrology as there is a different

pattern. Even if you are not a weather expert, you can tell that it woule be

cold in december, january and so on. Also, there is a very set pattern of

weather so predicting is comparatively easy. Try asking some weather expert a

definite question like what would be the temperature in missisuaga on 2nd

october, 2010 and his prediction can also fail. Or like people ask astrologers

about definite things like when will I become father or so on. Ask him when it

will rain 8cm next year or when would be the speed of wind north west 50 mph in

toronto..

 

2. Financial Experts - Who make predictions about market. The world has recently

seen the impact. Also, I would like to re-emphasize that the data here is again

limited as compared to astrology of human beings. The data of the company is

mostly about profit, loss, EPS. PE ratio. I mean the data is almost precise and

the people who analyze them have access to this information whereas astrologer

deduces on your birth time and birth place. Now say for e.g. you are not an

astrologer and you know one person (say your family member) for last 25 years.

Now you can predict about his job or growth, because you know his temperament,

knowledge, skills etc.

 

3. Career Counsellors - People who advise children about their future careers by

taking MBTI type or holland codes. There is a good margin of error there also.

 

4. Doctors - Surprised!!. They also do some anticipation (not as much as other

three examples do). Say a very brilliant surgeon. Can he tell when he will fall

ill in which year, though he is well versed with the anatomy of the physical

body. I have seen doctors saying don't worry you will be good in 3 days and due

to some allergic reaction or medicine not suiting, the case becomes worse. Even

in case related to heart attacks etc, sometimes there is 180* degree turn. I

have seen in my close relatives case, that doctors from the very premier and

prestigious chain of hospitals told that my relative would be good in another

3-5 days and unfortunately, he died (though they did all the tests, treatment

and blah blah)

 

 

5. Economists - Ask them about the world econonmy or economy of any particular

country for the next 10 years and see if results tally 100%.

 

6. People who predict about different industries about their growth. Recenlty 6

months back, there was article from DGCA stating that there is a huge shortage

of pilots and other airline persons in India and you know the reality now.

 

There are lot others that I can think of from all walks of life. Pick up any

thing that deals with future and see if they all come true.

 

 

Conclusion: Wherever there exists any thing / theory / application that deals

with future, it cannot be 100% accurate. Ofcourse, you can find somethings in

very limited environment / or very short distance in future that they can tell

accurate. (for e.g. it is very cloudy, one can say ok it is going to rain today

nd I can tell it 99% of the time)

 

Astrology like other sciences is a study of patterns and deriving conlusions /

inferences from them. Ask any intelligent person (who has never studied

astrology) to do the following.

 

1. Take 100 charts of the persons, who died due to heart attack at the age of

70. This is somewhat tough process, but the details like this can be obtained

from hospitals (say a cardiac specializing hospital)

2. Present the chart to the person.

3. Ask him to find the pattern.

4. He will find some pattern, not much

5. Now tell him basics of astrology, very limited basics (about 9 planets, 12

houses and lord of various houses in various houses / signs) and tell him that

fourth house and its lord is realted to heart.

5. Now again ask him to find the pattern using this information. He will

definitely see more patterns.

 

What we did in the above example, we limited our research just as it is in other

sciences.

 

There is nothing wrong for astrologers to for predicting wrong. It is just a way

to learn more and improve upon oneself.

 

Wherever there is something to be checked for future, definiteness cannot exist

as it is known only to Bramha and we can just apply our techniques and we

*predict*. If the happening was known to be happen / exist, the word

" prediction " would not have been existed.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

 

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004

[vedic astrology] Re: wrong prediction of pvr narsimha rao jee

vedic astrology

Thursday, November 6, 2008, 10:45 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear friend

 

albeit your mail is addressed to raghunatharao garu, am responding

since your concern is about scepticism on the application of

astrology in general.

 

as you rightly observed in the concluding in the last line, birth and

death are two things which are known only to god and astrologers are

not supposed to predict the death. some time ago, a renowned

astrologer predicted his own death date but committed suicide before

that ostensibly to make his prediction come true. hence i preach and

practice that birth and death are in the hands of god since it is the

god (soul) which enters or leaves the body.

 

just by seeing the birth details and casting a horoscope and even

getting aided by a prashna chart too, astrology cannot predict

whether the details are that of a dead or living chart. similarly,

the gender is also not predictable from the chart. some astrologers

have come with few techniques and formulaes to find out living or

dead and male or female chart but none are accurate with lots of hits

and misses. a couple of years ago, one poster presented birth

details of a native but did not reveal that it was that of his pet

dog which astrologers cannot predict as it is not told beforehand.

 

it is also my experience and belief that astrology cannot predict the

results of elections, cricket or rugby or football or tennis or

baseball or chess or racing championships. even when it is plain

simple fifty fifty equal chance of taking a risk of predicting this

or that, you dont find astrology principles working in these

matches. similarly you cannot predict stockmarkets, horseraces,

lottery and gambling. suppose i play " andar bahar " game of playing

cards which is very easy to predict with fifty percent chance of

winning, astrology cannot predict whether the card comes in or out.

 

so, my humble advise to you is that astrology must be meant to use in

the way it is desired to be used. it is also my personal belief and

practice that we shall not cast charts of those people who have not

asked us or approached us.

 

above all, besides astrology, you are aware of the karma theory,

blessings and curses, freewill, evil prayoga etc. driving the future

any which way and hence natives cannot purely blame astrology for

wrong predictions.

 

your lamenting about people laughing at astrology is understandable

because many new astrology branches like financial astrology are

invented. already analysts have become jokers as they daily give

three upward targets and three downward targets and they themselves

are not sure of up or down, plain simple fifty fifty prediction.

adding to these analysts, financial astrologers are now predicting

the stock market movements.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy .com

 

vedic astrology, Ali muhammed khan

<shams0072000@ ...> wrote:

>

> Namaste Raghunath jee

> i have read the previously the mails of PVR Narsimha rao jee he has

predicted that Maccain will be the next president  many of

predcitions of jyotish gurus go wrong what is the reason are they not

true guru or some other thing as you know many of peoples in india

and other asian countries say that this is ambigouis subject and not

a science in such condition and such large forum if any guru predcits

and it goes wrong and then antiastrology circles make laugh on

amatuer learner like me that leave this is all superstition no one

except God can predccit they are just making moneis and fool of us

but how defend ourselves please give answer in elaborated way 

> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, Raghunatha Rao Nemani <raon1008@.. .> wrote:

> Raghunatha Rao Nemhani <raon1008@.. .>

> [vedic astrology] Re: Newly Elect US President's future

Challenges

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 10:13 PM

Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Dr. Sitalu Ji,

>

> You have made some good comments about the Challenges ahead of the

> newly elected president.

>

> In order to assess the future, we need to have some accurate data

> which is the newly elected president's birth data and also the USA

> birth chart. I know there are few different birth charts are

available

> and I have used one in my previous analysis for the USA chart.

>

> http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/106351

>

> I like to analyze a bit more in details once I find a convincing

birth

> charts of both the President and the USA chart in the near future.

>

> I am sure, we can attempt to fine tune Mr. Obamas's birth time with

> the recent winning of elections too.

>

> If you or any one have come across a different Chart details of USA

> other than what I have used in my above analysis, please share with

> me, so that I can consider for my analysis.

>

> Regards

> Raghunatha Rao

> http://www.Prashna- Astrology. com

>

> vedic astrology, " Dr.Suneel Sitaula "

> <astrologernepal@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Barack Obama has won the 2008 presidential election Making

history, &

> > will become the 44th president of the United States. obama is the

> > country's first African-American leader,he has secured more than

the

> > 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidential elections.

> >

> > Obama strode towards victory by capturing the states of

> > Pennsylvania, the key battleground which McCain needed to keep

his

> > long-shot hopes of victory alive.he will be inaugurated as the

44th

> > US president on January 20, 2009.

> >

> > A renowned Nepali astrologer Dr.S.Suneel has already declared

that

> > Barack Obama is Next President of USA & Now his prediction is

> > successsful. some other astrologer from Russia has predicted that

mac

> > cain will win Us election.

> >

> > Now what will be the future of US President ?

> >

> > Barack Obama's Date of birth is August 4, 1961,Time:

> > 19:24:00,Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

> >

> > According Vedic Astrology, He is Capricorn Ascendant, Leo Navamsa

> > and Virgo Dreskana.Right Now he is passing Jupiter main period up

to

> > july 2012, jupiter & moon gave him political success. but the

future

> > is not easy, because jupiter is malefic planet for capricorn

lagna,

> > it increase many challenges & enemies.From april 2009 mars will

be

> > passing over him, mars is god of war. Again america has to fight

> > agnist terrorism.

> >

> > 2009 september to 2011 january is most bad luck period for Us

> > president obama, because in that time he will be shadwo of rahu &

> > saturn. saturn & rahu both are evil planet in vedic astrology.

> >

> > In his birth chart eight house is occupied by mars & rahu, it

also

> > indicate unexpected happenings.

> >

> > Again in numerology his number is 4 & he is 44 th president of

USA,

> > 4+4= 8, cheiro says combination of 4 & 8 is not good.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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