Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Dear Members, Astrology is a divine subject and its grace is the key, knowledge is the tool there r times when we don't have a tool but some how manage to do the task on had a simple example will be a key to the door if lost we may find many other ways of entering the place with or without breaking the door. Here most of the points raised by Pt arjun ji can be done if ones knowledge is blessed by Almighty and the quuerients karma warrents a human intervention in know before of a event that is if his karma is maliable if frozen no one can make any difference to him/her the good old day astrologers did a lot of predictions in the ine pt arjung said not possible but as said one depth in knowledge and a humble life style and noble mind can work its magic as in those days the rulers or local wealthy people supported knowledgeable people, doctors, priests, poets, arttists etc.... today all have to eke out aliving on theiir own so the edge suffers in all of the branches said do we find good artis now now just glamour/sex appeal do we find a good poet who can inspite a few people leave alone a revoultion like the french or Indian indipendence did NO. can we find doctors who say don't worry on my fees get well, its gods grace not mine etc no he will say this is my fees if u can afford I cantreat u else go to the govt hospital, there free service no free of care but not free from corruption greets u , where is the Vaido Narayana hari hee! doctor is the lord himself] he pays to get a seat heavily and takes yrs to pursue it into some specality when engineers accountants r busy building a property a good asset base they r still studying.... back to the point works like Brihat Jataka can guide u to a Yaoni janma-tree, stone, animal like wise prasna and Jataka can tell u if a person is dead or alive i f we have applied the necessary knowledge with gods grace quite often we ignore the -ve points in a chart and want to please or wish away the bad sid and make a mistake, we must judge if the person or someone from his side can face the e facts pl present it to them, if this happens consistantly we can find answers to them. else will miss a big chunk of data to work with. one of the many predictions I heard as a child that impressed me with astrologys depth is my maternal uncle who was given his maternal uncles 1st daughter as a bride her father was an astrologer too but my uncles family astrologer after seeing boththe charts said it is a fake one on their face if true I will cook in ur house for 20 yrs he said my uncles chart shows a son in a yrs time and her charts shows none she died in 3 months of marriage , marriage not even consumated he remarried her sister and had a son in the said time frame why it happened the aunts father said he wanted his daughter to die a Suhagan so fudged it. is this what an astrologer should do? -----later on when i started learning I had another experience contd.... in my next mail...plz but before I forget let me say PVN ji almost got it right only the direction was wrong he said after Sept the wind will come Macains way but it happend oppositely due to the GEC only and it was deciessive which one must anticipate too. but not a prediction to dame him he is too good for anyone of us. best wishes prashant G B Prashant Kumar Pl give personal data with verifable life event dates=jobs, marriage, family, kids, high/low times. 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Mobile 09840051861 Chennai, India Me Shuba Vela! ________________________________ panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 vedic astrology Thursday, November 6, 2008 10:45:32 PM [vedic astrology] Re: wrong prediction of pvr narsimha rao jee dear friend albeit your mail is addressed to raghunatharao garu, am responding since your concern is about scepticism on the application of astrology in general. as you rightly observed in the concluding in the last line, birth and death are two things which are known only to god and astrologers are not supposed to predict the death. some time ago, a renowned astrologer predicted his own death date but committed suicide before that ostensibly to make his prediction come true. hence i preach and practice that birth and death are in the hands of god since it is the god (soul) which enters or leaves the body. just by seeing the birth details and casting a horoscope and even getting aided by a prashna chart too, astrology cannot predict whether the details are that of a dead or living chart. similarly, the gender is also not predictable from the chart. some astrologers have come with few techniques and formulaes to find out living or dead and male or female chart but none are accurate with lots of hits and misses. a couple of years ago, one poster presented birth details of a native but did not reveal that it was that of his pet dog which astrologers cannot predict as it is not told beforehand. it is also my experience and belief that astrology cannot predict the results of elections, cricket or rugby or football or tennis or baseball or chess or racing championships. even when it is plain simple fifty fifty equal chance of taking a risk of predicting this or that, you dont find astrology principles working in these matches. similarly you cannot predict stockmarkets, horseraces, lottery and gambling. suppose i play " andar bahar " game of playing cards which is very easy to predict with fifty percent chance of winning, astrology cannot predict whether the card comes in or out. so, my humble advise to you is that astrology must be meant to use in the way it is desired to be used. it is also my personal belief and practice that we shall not cast charts of those people who have not asked us or approached us. above all, besides astrology, you are aware of the karma theory, blessings and curses, freewill, evil prayoga etc. driving the future any which way and hence natives cannot purely blame astrology for wrong predictions. your lamenting about people laughing at astrology is understandable because many new astrology branches like financial astrology are invented. already analysts have become jokers as they daily give three upward targets and three downward targets and they themselves are not sure of up or down, plain simple fifty fifty prediction. adding to these analysts, financial astrologers are now predicting the stock market movements. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy .com vedic astrology, Ali muhammed khan <shams0072000@ ...> wrote: > > Namaste Raghunath jee > i have read the previously the mails of PVR Narsimha rao jee he has predicted that Maccain will be the next president many of predcitions of jyotish gurus go wrong what is the reason are they not true guru or some other thing as you know many of peoples in india and other asian countries say that this is ambigouis subject and not a science in such condition and such large forum if any guru predcits and it goes wrong and then antiastrology circles make laugh on amatuer learner like me that leave this is all superstition no one except God can predccit they are just making moneis and fool of us but how defend ourselves please give answer in elaborated way > --- On Wed, 5/11/08, Raghunatha Rao Nemani <raon1008@.. .> wrote: > Raghunatha Rao Nemhani <raon1008@.. .> > [vedic astrology] Re: Newly Elect US President's future Challenges > vedic astrology > Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 10:13 PM Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Dr. Sitalu Ji, > > You have made some good comments about the Challenges ahead of the > newly elected president. > > In order to assess the future, we need to have some accurate data > which is the newly elected president's birth data and also the USA > birth chart. I know there are few different birth charts are available > and I have used one in my previous analysis for the USA chart. > > http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ message/106351 > > I like to analyze a bit more in details once I find a convincing birth > charts of both the President and the USA chart in the near future. > > I am sure, we can attempt to fine tune Mr. Obamas's birth time with > the recent winning of elections too. > > If you or any one have come across a different Chart details of USA > other than what I have used in my above analysis, please share with > me, so that I can consider for my analysis. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > http://www.Prashna- Astrology. com > > vedic astrology, " Dr.Suneel Sitaula " > <astrologernepal@ ...> wrote: > > > > Barack Obama has won the 2008 presidential election Making history, & > > will become the 44th president of the United States. obama is the > > country's first African-American leader,he has secured more than the > > 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidential elections. > > > > Obama strode towards victory by capturing the states of > > Pennsylvania, the key battleground which McCain needed to keep his > > long-shot hopes of victory alive.he will be inaugurated as the 44th > > US president on January 20, 2009. > > > > A renowned Nepali astrologer Dr.S.Suneel has already declared that > > Barack Obama is Next President of USA & Now his prediction is > > successsful. some other astrologer from Russia has predicted that mac > > cain will win Us election. > > > > Now what will be the future of US President ? > > > > Barack Obama's Date of birth is August 4, 1961,Time: > > 19:24:00,Honolulu, Hawaii, USA > > > > According Vedic Astrology, He is Capricorn Ascendant, Leo Navamsa > > and Virgo Dreskana.Right Now he is passing Jupiter main period up to > > july 2012, jupiter & moon gave him political success. but the future > > is not easy, because jupiter is malefic planet for capricorn lagna, > > it increase many challenges & enemies.From april 2009 mars will be > > passing over him, mars is god of war. Again america has to fight > > agnist terrorism. > > > > 2009 september to 2011 january is most bad luck period for Us > > president obama, because in that time he will be shadwo of rahu & > > saturn. saturn & rahu both are evil planet in vedic astrology. > > > > In his birth chart eight house is occupied by mars & rahu, it also > > indicate unexpected happenings. > > > > Again in numerology his number is 4 & he is 44 th president of USA, > > 4+4= 8, cheiro says combination of 4 & 8 is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. > Hurry before someone else does! > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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