Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 One good mail to read related to 64'th Navamsa.  TC Astrolearner --- On Sun, 9/11/08, Prashant Pandey <praspandey wrote: Prashant Pandey <praspandey [ind. & West. Astrology] Re:Khar planets Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 3:07 PM Dear Members, Please try to go to very basic then you will come to know what message i want to communicate related to Khar Planets. D-9 definitely works and it is Rashi tulya and it is 200% correct. But i dont know how our Maharishis endorsed the 64'th Navamsa concept and also 22'nd Drekkana concept. If you will go to very basic from where this concept has been emerged then you will find surely 68'th Navamsa concept correct instead of 64'th Navamsa. One more thing 63'rd Navamsa or 62'nd Navamsa can not give the death as why please think on yourself,, you will get the answer (Please go to very basic you will get the answer). Best Of Luck!!!! Regs, Prashant Pandey P.S.:- This is not disrespect of our ancestors (Maharishi) but at least I can not go blindly behind all concepts. I am surprised that even how Great Maharishi Parashara put his stamp on this concept. --- In Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, " sheevani147 " <sheevani147@ ...> wrote: > > Dearest Prashantji. > > Namaste. > > Thank you very much for sharing your views.. This matter needs more > thoughts.. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > > --- In Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, " Prashant > Pandey " <praspandey@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > There is strong gap in the concept which has been > > provided by all Maharishis related to Khara planet. > > > > Navamsa is Rashi tulya and Rashi is Navamsa tulya,, > > then how the planet sitting in 4'th house or the lord of that could > > be maraka according to concept illustrated in Navamsa. This concept > > has also been endorsed by all of Maharishis not at the time of > > Navamsa but also at the time of Nadi concept they have enunciated > > this. > > > > If Navamsa is Rashi tulya then according to this 68'th Navamsa > > should do the work what 64'th Navamsa does. > > > > If anybody has endorsed this concept with some illustrations then i > > am sure that he would have supported by Nks dashas(Mostly by Vim > > dasha even not by KCD) not by Rashi dasha and with the help of Sun > > as Sun is the karaka of Atman. > > > > 64'th Navamsa can give only mental sufferings like of death but can > > not give death,, i have also cross-checked this by going further in > > nadi.64'th Navamsa is connected with 8'th house(in D-1) and 4'th > > house(in D-9) but 68'th is connected both in Navamsa and also in D- > > 1,, with 8'th. > > > > 64'th Navamsa can not be fool-proof tool(Because Navamsa is Rashi > > tulya and Rashi is Navamsa tulya).If 64’th Navamsa is correct > then > > concept “Navamsa is Rashi tulya and Rashi is Navamsa tulya†can > not > > function. > > > > Even it is looking that there is some error in 22'nd Drekkana > > concept but i have not cross checked it further with the help of > > Nadi,, if i will find it wrong and will find further its > alternative > > in D-3 then will post my views. > > > > For death,, Shoola chakra is the best tool and also its conditional > > dasha give some reasonable reliability as it is connected with Sun > > also,, not with Nks only. > > > > I will show problem in 64’th Navamsa concept and working > capability > > of 68’th Navamsa with the examples of Smt. Indira Gandhi,, Shri > > Mahatma Gandhi and Nathu Ram Godse. I will illustrated it with the > > help of those examples because of some reasons as you already know > > why?? > > > > Regs, > > Prashant Pandey > > > > P.S.:- My Dear Friend friend Million dollar question is some thing > > else,, it is not that which you are thinking. > > > > > > --- In > > Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, " sheevani147 " > > <sheevani147@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > > > Namaste.. > > > > > > The lord of the 64th navamsha is Mars and the lord of the 22nd > > > drekkhana is also Mars by Parashara,Somanatha ,and Jagannatha > > > calculations and shani and rahu by Parivitti-tarya calucations in > > my > > > rashi chart. > > > > > > The house with the least astavarga point is the 4H pisces,, and > > Mars > > > deposits only 1 bindu in that house all other planets deposit 3- > 5 > > > hindus in this house.. > > > > > > Would I be correct to predict that when Mars is in the 4H pisces, > > > that is a time I need to be very vigilant.. or shud I be on the > > > lookout during mars transit into cancer(placement in rashi chart) > > > which is my 8 h from lagna and 4 h from moon..( which by recent > > > experience has been a difficult one) > > > > > > How do the dasha effects fit into this? > > > > > > I would be happy to share my birth details, shoud you require > > them.. > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, Gopal > > > Goel <gkgoel1937@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > In case , you consider one khara planet ,it will > > > > repeat every year. > > > > One is required to consider both the khara 's together, > > > > for death or death like conditions to occur. This is a rare > > > > combination in a native's life and does not occur frequently. > > > >  > > > > The million dollar question is: > > > > 1. If one planet becomes both Kharas > > > > 2. In Astakvarga system their are  some differences in > > > >   BPHS and Brihat Jatak.Which is to  be followed? > > > >  > > > > It is good that you wish ti do research on this . It may > benefit > > > all of us. > > > > Best regards, > > > >  > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Sumit Bajaj <sumitbajaj2000@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Sunday, 2 November, 2008 3:51:55 PM > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Khar planets > > > > > > > > > > > > this is a very good rule i have found out. However, the > > application > > > of the rule is yet to be found out from my side. The mentioned > > > instances may occur even every year in the natives life. So the > > rule > > > may not be absolute. > > > > > > > > This is the reason why i wanted the data for research. > > > > > > > > If anyone there please mail the same. > > > > > > > >  > > > > On 02/11/2008, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ . co.in> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Mr. C.S PATEL in his book 'Navamsa in Astrology' > > > > had indicated (page 38): > > > >  " Whenever the lord of the 22nd Drekkana from Lagna and > > > >     the Lord of the 64th navamsa from Moon happen to be > the > > > same planet > > > >     or when those two Kharas happen to transit a point > > > deprived of an auspicious > > > >     bindu in Astakavarga after two Sodhana are carried out > AND > > > IF THAT KAKSHYA > > > >     HAPPENS TO BE OWNED BY THE TRANSITING KHARA , > > > >     DEATH IS UNAVOIDABLE' > > > > > > > > I hope this will help you the damage which can be done by khara > > > planets. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > kiran.rama <kiran.rama@ . co.in> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Sunday, 2 November, 2008 1:53:22 PM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Death Analysis: > > Research > > > Data Required > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sumitji, > > > > > > > > There is something about the 64th navamsa lord that I have seen > > many > > > > use to correctly predict death. > > > > > > > > Following your research, it could be good if you could post a > > doc on > > > > the same > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Kiran > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sumit > Bajaj " > > > > <sumitbajaj2000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to research the astrological reasons for > predicting > > > > > deaths. If anyone has the data of people with their birth > > details > > > and > > > > > date of death and reason for death (if possible). Also the > > > reasons for > > > > > Accident i would also like to analyse. > > > > > > > > > > I will be very grateful if the same may be provided. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Sumit Bajaj > > > > > Contact: +91-98300-84593 > > > > > astrosumitbajaj. blogspot. com > > > > > Id: sumitbajaj2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Sumit Bajaj > > > > Contact: +91-98300-84593 > > > > astrosumitbajaj. blogspot. com > > > > Id: sumitbajaj2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. 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