TP Calculation to Michal (Lots of bomb attacks in India)

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Namaste Michal,

 

> I know that in the west festivals have lost a lot of meaning and particularly

> accurate astronomical significance ie. Christmas and Easter.

 

But Hinduism is different from the west. Hindu festivals are faithfully

celebrated on specific days in most of India. For example, most of India has

been celebrating Lord Rama's birthday on the sukla navami tithi of the lunar

month of Chaitra for ages. Determination of Hindu festivals has been far more

consistent through the ages and the astronomical significance has not been

tampered with.

 

> I had learnt previously that the beauty of tithi pravesha was that it took

> both the Sun and the Moon into account. Here it seems you are

> ignoring/avoiding Surya and the Dwadasa Aditya.

 

The lunar months themselves are determined based on the sunsign at the time the

month begins. The dwadasa Adityas are still relevant. However, the Sun-Moon

conjunction is the epoch. The form of Aditya at the epoch is relevant.

 

Please note that what are referred to as lunar month and lunar day are actually

soli-lunar month and soli-lunar day.

 

Mixing up soli-lunar day with the solar month is not necessary to bring in Sun

also into the picture. Even if you take the soli-lunar days in the soli-lunar

month itself, still both Sun and Moon go into its making.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

 

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sohamsa , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Narasimha,

>

> So which is the correct method of calculation - solar or lunar month?

>

> The reasoning you have given for lunar month is:

>

> 1) This is the common consenses and it is when festivals in India are

celebrated.

> 2) It works better for you.

>

> Can you give any other reasoning? I know that in the west festivals have lost

a lot of meaning and particularly accurate astronomical significance ie.

Christmas and Easter. And your second point is quite subjective.

>

> I had learnt previously that the beauty of tithi pravesha was that it took

both the Sun and the Moon into account. Here it seems you are ignoring/avoiding

Surya and the Dwadasa Aditya.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr

> sohamsa ; vedic astrology ;

 

> Sunday, 30 November, 2008 5:20:43 PM

> Re: Lots of bomb attacks in India

>

>

> Dear Lakshmi,

>

> Sanjay ji has already mentioned a very interesting

> point based on 5-year compressed Vimsottari dasa of PM Manmohan Singh's

> inauguration muhurta. I will mention one more point based on India's

> independence chart.

>

> Take the 2008-09 annual TP chart of India's

> independence chart. The data is 2008 August

> 29, 4:56:36 am (IST), Delhi.

>

> This chart has

> Cancer rising. Lagna is in gandanta. Its lord Moon is in lagna and afflicted

by

> Ketu within 5 deg. The 8th lord Rahu is in 7th and aspects Moon closely. Moon

> dasa started on Nov 25. This can explain terrorist activities that affect the

> collective mind of India's people.

>

> *

> * *

>

> In India's independence chart, 5th lord Mercury is

> in Scorpio navamsa. The 5th lord shows poorva punya. His navamsa is important.

> Right now, Sun, Mars and Mercury are transiting in Scorpio. This shows actions

> that tap into the poorva punya.

>

> The 7th lord of rasi is in Sg navamsa. In Sg,

> Jupiter and Venus are transiting. This shows a positive PR on the

international

> scene, co-operation and good relations with other nations.

>

> This event may be an inflection point. In the long

> run, this may turn out to be the last straw on the camel's back. This event

may

> increase sympathy for India, increase awareness of the problem and increase

> co-operation from other nations. This may event may also trigger some tangible

> actions in the future from India and the world to combat the problem at its

> root. We will wait and see.

>

> *

> * *

>

> If you use current JHora, you will get TP in the

> night of 2008 July 30. I want to explain why I get a different

> chart.

>

> Sanjay ji's teaching (and mine so far) on TP was

> that Sun should be in the natal sign and Moon should be at the same angle from

> him.

>

> However, in tradition, festivals and birthdays of

> gods and people are not celebrated this way. Those are celebrated based on the

> lunar calendar without reference to Sun's sign. The sign occupied by Sun at

the

> beginning of a lunar month is seen and it decides the name of the lunar month.

> During the month, solar sign is irrelevant.

>

> For example, Lord Rama's birthday is celebrated on

> the Sukla navami tithi of the lunar month of Chaitra, irrespective of Sun's

sign

> *on that day*. Sun may be on Pisces in some years and Aries in others.

> Similarly, Lord Krishna's birthday is celebrated on the Krishna Ashtami tithi

of

> the lunar month of Sraavana, irrespective of Sun's sign *on that day*. Sun may

> be in Cancer in some years and in Leo in others. The same tradition is

followed

> in deciding festivals and birthdays of gods, saints and normal

> people.

>

> It is possible to use the same method in finding TP

> charts. Instead of requiring Sun to be in the same sign and then taking the

> tithi of birth in that *solar month* of birth, we can take the tithi of birth

in

> the *lunar month* of birth. This change of definition results in the same

> calculations in some charts and some years, but alters in some others. In the

> above 2008 TP chart of India, the two definitions result in two different

dates

> for TP.

>

> After my study and experimentation, I convinced

> myself to go with the tradition of celebrating birthdays based on the lunar

> month and tithi rather than mixing up solar month with lunar day (tithi). In

> other words, I convinced myself to change the teaching of Sanjay ji in this

> matter.

>

> Best

> regards,

> Narasimha

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> sohamsa@ .com, " lakshmikary "

> <lakshmikary@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> > Dear

> All,

> > Does anyone want to give an astrological post on all the bombings

> in India.

> > WHo is doing it? Will it continue?

> > Best wishes

> >

> Lakshmi