Attn. Haresh and Pathi Ji (Effects of Debilated Jupiter/Guru in Transit)

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Respected Haresh Ji

Namaskar

 

You have given Jupiter transit effects lagna-wise.

Generally we see transit effects are seen from natal moon.

 

Recently Mr. Pathi ji has also written article on this subject which

was based on transit effects with reference to moon/ Janma Rashi only.

 

In fact it entirely changes the interpretation. Does it mean native

will feel the effects based on both references??

 

Can you clarify the stand??

 

Regards

Ashok

 

vedic astrology , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani "

<haresh1405 wrote:

>

> Effects of Debilated Jupiter/Guru in Transit

> (The writer of this article is a follower of Rishi Parasher’s

astrological principles. Hence all predictions are based on Rishi

Parashers Principles of Astrology.)

> On December 9th 2008, Jupiter/Guru will get debilated in

transition. Jupiter is an all rounder planet in any horoscope. It

takes care of the below mentioned houses/bhava’s in any kundali &

as well is karak for husband in a female kundali. They are:

> üLagna/general health/Shareer

> üFinances/Dhan

> üVidya & Budhi/Education & Intelligence

> üBhagya/fortunes

> üKarma/Action/kind of activity we will do

> üLabh/Gains from Profession

> üKarak for husband in any females horoscope

> It is also the karak for health issues

> üObesity

> üDiabetes

> üFeet pain

> üBackaches

> üHead pain

>  

> Its debilitation power is up to 5 degrees. On 9th Feb 09 it will

cross 5 degrees.

> Transition into Makar/Capricorn rashi, and also getting afflicted

due to yuti/conjunction of Rahu & aspect of Ketu, will make Jupiter

bhav nashak, meaning it will also destroy the effects of the bhav it

is located in. Only afflicted Jupiter is bhav nashak.

> Any native having debilated Jupiter in one’s Janma kundali will

experience problems related to one or more of the above bhava’s.

When the Maha dasha or Antar dasha or Perpattyana dasha or Shukshama

dasha or Shoola dasha of debilated Jupiter is going on, this effect

is more visible.  If Jupiter is not debilated in the native’s

Janma kundali and any of its dasha is going on, 50% effects are also

felt. In Jupiter dasha we also get the result of its placement in

Janma kundali & 50% in transit. Problems take front seat when Jupiter

is debilated in transit. Its effect has been elaborated lagna wise as

below.

> Mesh/Aries:  In this lagna Jupiter has department of bhagya &

vyay/loss (12th house). It will transit to karma sthan. Here karma

gets affected, as there will be conflicts, transfers, father’s

speech will be affected, it will affect native’s father name &

fame, raj yog of 9th lord in 10th would be cancelled, fortunes will

be disturbed and government employees would feel the pinch of

instability in their work & place of work. Expenses will mount;

because money will be spend on maintaining one’s job.. Court cases

would be unnecessarily postponed & delayed. Relationship with mother

in law will be disturbed. Backaches will increase & aspects of Ketu

till November may lead surgery to the spine. Headaches & diabetes may

rise.. Those who are not diabetic may also get diabetes. Travelers

who travel within the country for their living means will see decline

in their earnings. Students those are aspiring for MBA or any other

professional financial degrees or

> aspiring for PhD may find it difficult to concentrate or may not

get through with flying colours or may take break in their studies. 

Spiritual masters may see their disciples  not performing one’s

spiritual activity properly; some spiritual master’s may even get

indulged into exploiting their followers.

> Vrashabh/Taurus: In this lagna Jupiter has department of 8th house

Life span/death/ayu & Labh/Income from profession (11th house). If

8th house has no aspect of any other shubh/benefic graha, life span

gets affected. But here Jupiter gets debilated in 9th house. Rishi

Parasher says that any planet whether debilated or malefic, when it

is located in trikona sthan (5th or 9th house) it loses its malefic

power & gives positive results. But being afflicted due to

conjunction of Rahu will give results along with the effects of Rahu.

Here results will also be very tricky. Fortunes turn favourable, 11th

house results, i.e. gains from profession increases, but health

deteriorates, natives elder siblings income increases, father losses

its name & fame, spiritual consciousness increases, pilgrimage tours

increase, obesity will be in control, but backaches will increase,

effects of Pitra Dosha may be felt, & due to yuti with Rahu

 finances will also be affected.

> Mithun/Gemini: In this lagna Jupiter has responsibility of

marriage/spouse & Karma, but will be placed in 8th house. During

debilitation it will affect the general health of the spouse & also

native’s karma is affected. Rahu in 8th house is known to increase

one’s will power. Will power will be good.  Health problems like

diabetes, frequent headaches, feet pain, as it also aspects 12th

house, eye problem due to Ketu in 2nd house will increase. Desire to

eat more sweet meats will increases resulting in obesity. Constant

friction with spouse will always be there. Frequent friction at work

place, no appreciation, transfer in place of work, change of job,

will be very common. If Mercury is also debilated then it will result

in loss of name & fame, weakening & indecisive mind. Loss of

opportunity may arise due to confusion & double.  

> Karaka/Cancer: In this lagna Jupiter has 6th house & the 9th house.

Jupiter is placed in 7th house. This brings disease to one’s

spouse. The natives health also gets affected as it aspects the

lagna. But being weak will not be able to protect general health. It

also causes debts for the spouse. Fortune turns unfavourable. Father

losses name & fame. Presence of Rahu & aspect of Ketu increases

friction in marital life resulting in divorce or separation. High

temper, blood pressure, diabetes, headaches and misunderstanding

dominates. This being also markasthan & presence of Sani in 2nd house

in transit, married native females may lose their husband as untimely

death, only if the life span of their husband is not good in their

chart.

> Simha/Leo: Debilated Jupiter is a blessing in disguise for this

lagna native’s. The writer of this article is also Simha lagna

native. Jupiter has responsibility of 5th & 8th house & Jupiter is

debilated in 6th house along with Rahu & aspect of Ketu. Here Jupiter

is bhav nashak of 6th house; hence all enemies, diseases, loans, and

debts get eliminated. Vipreet raj yog is also formed, (8th lord in

6th house), which indicates sudden financial gains. Karma increases,

also charities to spiritual organizations will increase, and

dhan/finances will increase. But children’s health gets affected;

their concentration in studies will be poor due to presence of Rahu,

some children may take a break or drop out from studies.

> Kanya/Virgo: The natives of this lagna’s will be lucky to some

extent as Rishi Parasher says that when any planet whether debilated

or malefic, is located in trikona sthan (5th or 9th house) it loses

its malefic power & gives benefic results. But Jupiter being

afflicted due to conjunction of Rahu it will also give results along

with the effects of Rahu. Jupiter in this lagna has responsibility of

4th & 7th house, both Kendra’s. Jupiter will be in 5th house. Raj

yog of 4th lord in 5th house is not cancelled. Hence debilitation of

Jupiter will increase luxuries, will increase income from business,

but general health will not be good due to presence of Rahu. Natives

who are in active politics in this lagna will get benefited the most.

Elections can be won. The natives will love their spouses but will

always land up in friction & quarrels. Eligible singles will find

their love mates but after marriage will feel dejected on the choice

of their spouse as

> debilated Jupiter along with Rahu will always give an unclear

image of the mate. Jobless will get new job offers but conditional &

less pay.

> Tula/Libra: In this lagna, Jupiter losses its importance as it has

the responsibility of 3rd & 6th house. Third house deals with

Parakram/Energy & sixth house with debts & disease, and Jupiter will

be placed in 4th house (Kendra). The native’s of this lagna will be

the most affected due to debilitation. Energy level will be low,

debts & diseases will increase, politicians will lose elections,

increase in public enmity will be seen. Loss on untimed /distress

sale of luxuries (like gold, property, land). Loss in agriculture

business. Mother’s health will be a concern, lungs will get

affected very badly, and surgery may arise in disease related to

lungs. Debts will rise, could be default in payments. Mother’s

younger siblings will also get affected, young siblings will cheat,

not repay amount loaned to them. Some relief will be seen when

Jupiter crosses 5 degrees of debilitation. Social contacts will lose

its image & popularity.

> Vrishchik/Scorpio: In this lagna Jupiter has dhan sthan & santaan

sthan. It will be placed in 3rd house. Loss of finances, speech

getting debilated, promises not kept, rudeness, energy level will be

very low, contacts will be lost, social life will lose its image,

problems from children will increase, friction or separation from

children, will affect the natives. Conflicts with spouses may lead to

separation or divorce. Backaches will increase & surgery may be a

possibility. Native’s Father’s health will also get affected.

Quarrels & separation with the young siblings & from the family is

also a possibility.

> Dhanur/Sagittarius: In this lagna, Jupiter has the responsibility

of lagna & 4th house, (Kendra). It will be placed in 2nd house. I.e.

dhan sthan. Natives name & fame will be in jeopardy, finances will

get affected, tendency to cheat financially, anybody who has parked

any money out of faith with this native will never be paid back,

separation from family, frequent headaches, diabetes, backaches,

right eye problem, rude speech, speaking of lies, promises not kept,

distress sale of property including gold & vehicles, loss from

agriculture income, politicians facing opposition from general

public, losing elections, mother’s health detiorating, will be

experienced. But a sudden financial gain is also a possibility. Being

markasthan may also bring untimely death in the family.

> Makar/Capricorn: In this lagna, Jupiter also losses its importance

as it owns 12th & 3rd house. Jupiter will be placed in lagna. Lord of

12th house in lagna indicates health issues like Diabetes, headaches,

backaches, feet pain, low energy level, loss of name & fame, social

issues & problems. Constant fights & quarrels with spouse, may lead

to separation or divorce. Loss of name & fame of young siblings &

separation from them is a possibility. Death in the family of

paternal grandparents is also a possibility. Spiritual touch may also

be lost.

> Kumbh/Aquarius: In this lagna, Jupiter has responsibility of labh

sthan & dhan sthan. Jupiter will be placed in 12th house which is

also vyay sthan. Native’s of this lagna will see heavy to very

heavy losses as lord of labh sthan in vyay & karak for dhan in vyay

and that too debilated. The juice squeezed from the fruit & then

thrown in the dust bin, this situation will arise. Income earned from

business will not stay in hands, losses will occur in business,

orders may get cancelled; overseas contracts may not get renewed or

may get with strict conditional renewals which may not be feasible.

Court cases which may be of criminal nature will mount; visit to

police station, prison, hospital, court, and lawyer will increase.

Tension will mount, natives elder siblings will also see a similar

situation, quarrels & separation from elder siblings will be a

probability. God helps these natives.

> Meen/Pisces: In this lagna, Jupiter has the responsibility of karma

& lagna. It will be placed in 11th house. Natives of this lagna are

always considered the best among the 12 rashi’s as body always

supports whatever karma is executed being the same lord. They are the

luckiest of all the 12 natives. But here due to debilated Jupiter

will feel the pinch of luck running out of them. Self respect, name &

fame which they always command will not favour. Body will not support

the karma they want to execute. Whatever karma is executed will not

see appreciation & acceptances and may face disregard. It will also

affect natives elder siblings.. Relation will strain leading to

quarrels/separation. Even the natives Father’s younger sibling will

also experience the same ill effects. But somehow presence of Rahu

will give the native the will power to face the revolt & be

victorious, that is what Rahu does when in 11th house. However

natives in the business of meat,

> leather, liquor, imports will flourish and reap good gains.

Politicians will also see victory in elections but with bitter &

tough competition. Natives who are in business association with

government agencies will also feel the pinch of higher amount of

under the table favours being demanded. 

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Dear Jaswani

 

We always see janma kundali from lagna. Only for sudharshan chakra analysis we

see the three janma, surya & chandra lagna. Hence to be more precise I hv taken

the prediction from janma lagna rashi. U must read ur perspective from ur janma

lagna & not chandra lagna.

 

GOD BLESS YOU

WITH WARM REGARDS

HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI

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VAASTU CONSULTANT

INSURANCE ADVISOR

CELL +919867214103

(MUMBAI,INDIA)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Wednesday, 10 December, 2008 11:40:22 AM

[vedic astrology] Attn. Haresh and Pathi Ji (Re: Effects of Debilated

Jupiter/Guru in Transit)

 

 

Respected Haresh Ji

Namaskar

 

You have given Jupiter transit effects lagna-wise.

Generally we see transit effects are seen from natal moon.

 

Recently Mr. Pathi ji has also written article on this subject which

was based on transit effects with reference to moon/ Janma Rashi only.

 

In fact it entirely changes the interpretation. Does it mean native

will feel the effects based on both references??

 

Can you clarify the stand??

 

Regards

Ashok

 

vedic astrology, " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani "

<haresh1405@ ...> wrote:

>

> Effects of Debilated Jupiter/Guru in Transit

> (The writer of this article is a follower of Rishi Parasher’s

astrological principles. Hence all predictions are based on Rishi

Parashers Principles of Astrology.)

> On December 9th 2008, Jupiter/Guru will get debilated in

transition. Jupiter is an all rounder planet in any horoscope. It

takes care of the below mentioned houses/bhava’s in any kundali &

as well is karak for husband in a female kundali. They are:

> üLagna/general health/Shareer

> üFinances/Dhan

> üVidya & Budhi/Education & Intelligence

> üBhagya/fortunes

> üKarma/Action/ kind of activity we will do

> üLabh/Gains from Profession

> üKarak for husband in any females horoscope

> It is also the karak for health issues

> üObesity

> üDiabetes

> üFeet pain

> üBackaches

> üHead pain

>  

> Its debilitation power is up to 5 degrees. On 9th Feb 09 it will

cross 5 degrees.

> Transition into Makar/Capricorn rashi, and also getting afflicted

due to yuti/conjunction of Rahu & aspect of Ketu, will make Jupiter

bhav nashak, meaning it will also destroy the effects of the bhav it

is located in. Only afflicted Jupiter is bhav nashak.

> Any native having debilated Jupiter in one’s Janma kundali will

experience problems related to one or more of the above bhava’s.

When the Maha dasha or Antar dasha or Perpattyana dasha or Shukshama

dasha or Shoola dasha of debilated Jupiter is going on, this effect

is more visible.  If Jupiter is not debilated in the native’s

Janma kundali and any of its dasha is going on, 50% effects are also

felt. In Jupiter dasha we also get the result of its placement in

Janma kundali & 50% in transit. Problems take front seat when Jupiter

is debilated in transit. Its effect has been elaborated lagna wise as

below.

> Mesh/Aries:  In this lagna Jupiter has department of bhagya &

vyay/loss (12th house). It will transit to karma sthan. Here karma

gets affected, as there will be conflicts, transfers, father’s

speech will be affected, it will affect native’s father name &

fame, raj yog of 9th lord in 10th would be cancelled, fortunes will

be disturbed and government employees would feel the pinch of

instability in their work & place of work. Expenses will mount;

because money will be spend on maintaining one’s job.. Court cases

would be unnecessarily postponed & delayed. Relationship with mother

in law will be disturbed. Backaches will increase & aspects of Ketu

till November may lead surgery to the spine. Headaches & diabetes may

rise.. Those who are not diabetic may also get diabetes. Travelers

who travel within the country for their living means will see decline

in their earnings. Students those are aspiring for MBA or any other

professional financial degrees or

> aspiring for PhD may find it difficult to concentrate or may not

get through with flying colours or may take break in their studies. 

Spiritual masters may see their disciples  not performing one’s

spiritual activity properly; some spiritual master’s may even get

indulged into exploiting their followers.

> Vrashabh/Taurus: In this lagna Jupiter has department of 8th house

Life span/death/ayu & Labh/Income from profession (11th house). If

8th house has no aspect of any other shubh/benefic graha, life span

gets affected.. But here Jupiter gets debilated in 9th house. Rishi

Parasher says that any planet whether debilated or malefic, when it

is located in trikona sthan (5th or 9th house) it loses its malefic

power & gives positive results. But being afflicted due to

conjunction of Rahu will give results along with the effects of Rahu.

Here results will also be very tricky. Fortunes turn favourable, 11th

house results, i.e. gains from profession increases, but health

deteriorates, natives elder siblings income increases, father losses

its name & fame, spiritual consciousness increases, pilgrimage tours

increase, obesity will be in control, but backaches will increase,

effects of Pitra Dosha may be felt, & due to yuti with Rahu

 finances will also be affected.

> Mithun/Gemini: In this lagna Jupiter has responsibility of

marriage/spouse & Karma, but will be placed in 8th house. During

debilitation it will affect the general health of the spouse & also

native’s karma is affected. Rahu in 8th house is known to increase

one’s will power. Will power will be good.  Health problems like

diabetes, frequent headaches, feet pain, as it also aspects 12th

house, eye problem due to Ketu in 2nd house will increase. Desire to

eat more sweet meats will increases resulting in obesity. Constant

friction with spouse will always be there. Frequent friction at work

place, no appreciation, transfer in place of work, change of job,

will be very common. If Mercury is also debilated then it will result

in loss of name & fame, weakening & indecisive mind. Loss of

opportunity may arise due to confusion & double.  

> Karaka/Cancer: In this lagna Jupiter has 6th house & the 9th house.

Jupiter is placed in 7th house. This brings disease to one’s

spouse. The natives health also gets affected as it aspects the

lagna. But being weak will not be able to protect general health. It

also causes debts for the spouse. Fortune turns unfavourable. Father

losses name & fame. Presence of Rahu & aspect of Ketu increases

friction in marital life resulting in divorce or separation. High

temper, blood pressure, diabetes, headaches and misunderstanding

dominates. This being also markasthan & presence of Sani in 2nd house

in transit, married native females may lose their husband as untimely

death, only if the life span of their husband is not good in their

chart.

> Simha/Leo: Debilated Jupiter is a blessing in disguise for this

lagna native’s. The writer of this article is also Simha lagna

native. Jupiter has responsibility of 5th & 8th house & Jupiter is

debilated in 6th house along with Rahu & aspect of Ketu. Here Jupiter

is bhav nashak of 6th house; hence all enemies, diseases, loans, and

debts get eliminated. Vipreet raj yog is also formed, (8th lord in

6th house), which indicates sudden financial gains. Karma increases,

also charities to spiritual organizations will increase, and

dhan/finances will increase. But children’s health gets affected;

their concentration in studies will be poor due to presence of Rahu,

some children may take a break or drop out from studies.

> Kanya/Virgo: The natives of this lagna’s will be lucky to some

extent as Rishi Parasher says that when any planet whether debilated

or malefic, is located in trikona sthan (5th or 9th house) it loses

its malefic power & gives benefic results. But Jupiter being

afflicted due to conjunction of Rahu it will also give results along

with the effects of Rahu. Jupiter in this lagna has responsibility of

4th & 7th house, both Kendra’s. Jupiter will be in 5th house. Raj

yog of 4th lord in 5th house is not cancelled. Hence debilitation of

Jupiter will increase luxuries, will increase income from business,

but general health will not be good due to presence of Rahu. Natives

who are in active politics in this lagna will get benefited the most.

Elections can be won. The natives will love their spouses but will

always land up in friction & quarrels. Eligible singles will find

their love mates but after marriage will feel dejected on the choice

of their spouse as

> debilated Jupiter along with Rahu will always give an unclear

image of the mate. Jobless will get new job offers but conditional &

less pay.

> Tula/Libra: In this lagna, Jupiter losses its importance as it has

the responsibility of 3rd & 6th house. Third house deals with

Parakram/Energy & sixth house with debts & disease, and Jupiter will

be placed in 4th house (Kendra). The native’s of this lagna will be

the most affected due to debilitation. Energy level will be low,

debts & diseases will increase, politicians will lose elections,

increase in public enmity will be seen. Loss on untimed /distress

sale of luxuries (like gold, property, land). Loss in agriculture

business. Mother’s health will be a concern, lungs will get

affected very badly, and surgery may arise in disease related to

lungs. Debts will rise, could be default in payments. Mother’s

younger siblings will also get affected, young siblings will cheat,

not repay amount loaned to them. Some relief will be seen when

Jupiter crosses 5 degrees of debilitation. Social contacts will lose

its image & popularity.

> Vrishchik/Scorpio: In this lagna Jupiter has dhan sthan & santaan

sthan. It will be placed in 3rd house. Loss of finances, speech

getting debilated, promises not kept, rudeness, energy level will be

very low, contacts will be lost, social life will lose its image,

problems from children will increase, friction or separation from

children, will affect the natives. Conflicts with spouses may lead to

separation or divorce. Backaches will increase & surgery may be a

possibility. Native’s Father’s health will also get affected.

Quarrels & separation with the young siblings & from the family is

also a possibility.

> Dhanur/Sagittarius: In this lagna, Jupiter has the responsibility

of lagna & 4th house, (Kendra). It will be placed in 2nd house. I.e.

dhan sthan. Natives name & fame will be in jeopardy, finances will

get affected, tendency to cheat financially, anybody who has parked

any money out of faith with this native will never be paid back,

separation from family, frequent headaches, diabetes, backaches,

right eye problem, rude speech, speaking of lies, promises not kept,

distress sale of property including gold & vehicles, loss from

agriculture income, politicians facing opposition from general

public, losing elections, mother’s health detiorating, will be

experienced. But a sudden financial gain is also a possibility. Being

markasthan may also bring untimely death in the family.

> Makar/Capricorn: In this lagna, Jupiter also losses its importance

as it owns 12th & 3rd house. Jupiter will be placed in lagna. Lord of

12th house in lagna indicates health issues like Diabetes, headaches,

backaches, feet pain, low energy level, loss of name & fame, social

issues & problems. Constant fights & quarrels with spouse, may lead

to separation or divorce. Loss of name & fame of young siblings &

separation from them is a possibility. Death in the family of

paternal grandparents is also a possibility. Spiritual touch may also

be lost.

> Kumbh/Aquarius: In this lagna, Jupiter has responsibility of labh

sthan & dhan sthan. Jupiter will be placed in 12th house which is

also vyay sthan. Native’s of this lagna will see heavy to very

heavy losses as lord of labh sthan in vyay & karak for dhan in vyay

and that too debilated. The juice squeezed from the fruit & then

thrown in the dust bin, this situation will arise. Income earned from

business will not stay in hands, losses will occur in business,

orders may get cancelled; overseas contracts may not get renewed or

may get with strict conditional renewals which may not be feasible.

Court cases which may be of criminal nature will mount; visit to

police station, prison, hospital, court, and lawyer will increase.

Tension will mount, natives elder siblings will also see a similar

situation, quarrels & separation from elder siblings will be a

probability. God helps these natives.

> Meen/Pisces: In this lagna, Jupiter has the responsibility of karma

& lagna. It will be placed in 11th house. Natives of this lagna are

always considered the best among the 12 rashi’s as body always

supports whatever karma is executed being the same lord. They are the

luckiest of all the 12 natives. But here due to debilated Jupiter

will feel the pinch of luck running out of them. Self respect, name &

fame which they always command will not favour. Body will not support

the karma they want to execute. Whatever karma is executed will not

see appreciation & acceptances and may face disregard. It will also

affect natives elder siblings.. Relation will strain leading to

quarrels/separation . Even the natives Father’s younger sibling will

also experience the same ill effects. But somehow presence of Rahu

will give the native the will power to face the revolt & be

victorious, that is what Rahu does when in 11th house. However

natives in the business of meat,

> leather, liquor, imports will flourish and reap good gains.

Politicians will also see victory in elections but with bitter &

tough competition. Natives who are in business association with

government agencies will also feel the pinch of higher amount of

under the table favours being demanded. 

>  

>  

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> WITH WARM REGARDS

> HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI

> VEDIC ASTOLOGER

> VAASTU CONSULTANT

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> CELL +919867214103

> (MUMBAI,INDIA)

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Dear Mr. Jaswani:

 

Your doubt is justified. While " Lagna "  in a birth chart is taken as " SOUL " , the

Rasi occupied by The Moon can be understood as " BODY " .

Moon sign of the Birth Chart is generally termed as 'Rasi " and the birth Star is

called  " Janma Nakshathra " .

The day-to-day effects caused by the planets with reference to their positions

(in movement) during that time in relation to the " Janma Rasi " and " Janma

Nakshatra " is called GOCHARA PALA or 'transit results of Planets. 

 

 Then, this is entirely in relation to THE POSITION OF MOON (Not referred by

Mr.Haresh, as 'I have taken the prediction from janma lagna rashi.' and further

he says, 'you must read your perspective from janma Lagna and not from Chandra

Lagna), in the zone of concerned stars, come into play for " Transit " results

which are also co-related to Janma (The MOON) Rasi - NOT Janma Lagna - for day

to day trends.

 

The Planets travel - in day to day basis - each Rasi (where Star zones are

demarked) and each of the 27 Stars and produce effects to Lagna and Janma Rasi

(place of Moon in the Birth Chart).  Lagna is a pointer to the time of birth in

a day and a 'Star Zone' is not quoted as a segment of Lagna, (the total 30

Degrees of a zodiac house is referred to as 'Lagna').  All Planets'

positions are with reference to Star Zones in its segment, referred with Star

Lords.  Stars form the segments of the position of the Moon in a Zodiac House,

termed RASI, and the movement of Planets to cause effect towards Star Zone,

while moving in a particular zodiac house under the power and rules priscribed

to the movement of that Planet, to cause related effect to the position of The

Moon in the segment occupied by it in the Birth Chart.

 

Therefore I wish to clarify, the effects of the movement of Planets is related

to the position of the Natal Moon to trace the 'Gochara' Planet in relation to

the Desa Bukti and Anthara of a ruling Planet at that time, for the Natal, in

the decided gradation of the power of the Planet as established under various

rules, and principles as found for the Planet in the Natal Chart, in Hindu

(Vedic) Astrology.

 

A person would have born in any Natal Lagna of 12 Zodiac Signs in a day of birth

as to the time of birth of that person.  But he is born in only one star (in the

4 Padas of that Star) and the 'Chara " (movement) of the Planet on the day in

various STAR Zones of reconing is related to the Star (The Moon position) he is

born, not the time of the day he is born.

 

Gochara Pala has no relation with Natal Lagna and The Sun (who moves once a

month from one Zodiac House to another Zodiac House).  If necessary I will go

elaborate with quoted slokas on Gochar movements of Planets from as many books

as you may desire as authentic quotes to support my contention.

 

A.V.Pathi,  

103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill,                                    

North Carolina, 27514, USA

001-919-960-3833

 

 

 

 

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Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405

vedic astrology

Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:41:03 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Attn. Haresh and Pathi Ji (Re: Effects of

Debilated Jupiter/Guru in Transit)

 

 

Dear Jaswani

 

We always see janma kundali from lagna. Only for sudharshan chakra analysis we

see the three janma, surya & chandra lagna. Hence to be more precise I hv taken

the prediction from janma lagna rashi. U must read ur perspective from ur janma

lagna & not chandra lagna.

 

GOD BLESS YOU

WITH WARM REGARDS

HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI

VEDIC ASTOLOGER

VAASTU CONSULTANT

INSURANCE ADVISOR

CELL +919867214103

(MUMBAI,INDIA)

 

 

 

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Wednesday, 10 December, 2008 11:40:22 AM

[vedic astrology] Attn. Haresh and Pathi Ji (Re: Effects of Debilated

Jupiter/Guru in Transit)

 

Respected Haresh Ji

Namaskar

 

You have given Jupiter transit effects lagna-wise.

Generally we see transit effects are seen from natal moon.

 

Recently Mr. Pathi ji has also written article on this subject which

was based on transit effects with reference to moon/ Janma Rashi only.

 

In fact it entirely changes the interpretation. Does it mean native

will feel the effects based on both references??

 

Can you clarify the stand??

 

Regards

Ashok

 

vedic astrology, " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani "

<haresh1405@ ...> wrote:

>

> Effects of Debilated Jupiter/Guru in Transit

> (The writer of this article is a follower of Rishi Parasher’s

astrological principles. Hence all predictions are based on Rishi

Parashers Principles of Astrology.)

> On December 9th 2008, Jupiter/Guru will get debilated in

transition. Jupiter is an all rounder planet in any horoscope. It

takes care of the below mentioned houses/bhava’s in any kundali &

as well is karak for husband in a female kundali. They are:

> üLagna/general health/Shareer

> üFinances/Dhan

> üVidya & Budhi/Education & Intelligence

> üBhagya/fortunes

> üKarma/Action/ kind of activity we will do

> üLabh/Gains from Profession

> üKarak for husband in any females horoscope

> It is also the karak for health issues

> üObesity

> üDiabetes

> üFeet pain

> üBackaches

> üHead pain

>  

> Its debilitation power is up to 5 degrees. On 9th Feb 09 it will

cross 5 degrees.

> Transition into Makar/Capricorn rashi, and also getting afflicted

due to yuti/conjunction of Rahu & aspect of Ketu, will make Jupiter

bhav nashak, meaning it will also destroy the effects of the bhav it

is located in. Only afflicted Jupiter is bhav nashak.

> Any native having debilated Jupiter in one’s Janma kundali will

experience problems related to one or more of the above bhava’s.

When the Maha dasha or Antar dasha or Perpattyana dasha or Shukshama

dasha or Shoola dasha of debilated Jupiter is going on, this effect

is more visible.  If Jupiter is not debilated in the native’s

Janma kundali and any of its dasha is going on, 50% effects are also

felt. In Jupiter dasha we also get the result of its placement in

Janma kundali & 50% in transit. Problems take front seat when Jupiter

is debilated in transit. Its effect has been elaborated lagna wise as

below.

> Mesh/Aries:  In this lagna Jupiter has department of bhagya &

vyay/loss (12th house). It will transit to karma sthan. Here karma

gets affected, as there will be conflicts, transfers, father’s

speech will be affected, it will affect native’s father name &

fame, raj yog of 9th lord in 10th would be cancelled, fortunes will

be disturbed and government employees would feel the pinch of

instability in their work & place of work. Expenses will mount;

because money will be spend on maintaining one’s job.. Court cases

would be unnecessarily postponed & delayed. Relationship with mother

in law will be disturbed. Backaches will increase & aspects of Ketu

till November may lead surgery to the spine. Headaches & diabetes may

rise.. Those who are not diabetic may also get diabetes. Travelers

who travel within the country for their living means will see decline

in their earnings. Students those are aspiring for MBA or any other

professional financial degrees or

> aspiring for PhD may find it difficult to concentrate or may not

get through with flying colours or may take break in their studies. 

Spiritual masters may see their disciples  not performing one’s

spiritual activity properly; some spiritual master’s may even get

indulged into exploiting their followers.

> Vrashabh/Taurus: In this lagna Jupiter has department of 8th house

Life span/death/ayu & Labh/Income from profession (11th house). If

8th house has no aspect of any other shubh/benefic graha, life span

gets affected.. But here Jupiter gets debilated in 9th house. Rishi

Parasher says that any planet whether debilated or malefic, when it

is located in trikona sthan (5th or 9th house) it loses its malefic

power & gives positive results. But being afflicted due to

conjunction of Rahu will give results along with the effects of Rahu.

Here results will also be very tricky. Fortunes turn favourable, 11th

house results, i.e. gains from profession increases, but health

deteriorates, natives elder siblings income increases, father losses

its name & fame, spiritual consciousness increases, pilgrimage tours

increase, obesity will be in control, but backaches will increase,

effects of Pitra Dosha may be felt, & due to yuti with Rahu

 finances will also be affected.

> Mithun/Gemini: In this lagna Jupiter has responsibility of

marriage/spouse & Karma, but will be placed in 8th house. During

debilitation it will affect the general health of the spouse & also

native’s karma is affected. Rahu in 8th house is known to increase

one’s will power. Will power will be good.  Health problems like

diabetes, frequent headaches, feet pain, as it also aspects 12th

house, eye problem due to Ketu in 2nd house will increase. Desire to

eat more sweet meats will increases resulting in obesity. Constant

friction with spouse will always be there. Frequent friction at work

place, no appreciation, transfer in place of work, change of job,

will be very common. If Mercury is also debilated then it will result

in loss of name & fame, weakening & indecisive mind. Loss of

opportunity may arise due to confusion & double.  

> Karaka/Cancer: In this lagna Jupiter has 6th house & the 9th house.

Jupiter is placed in 7th house. This brings disease to one’s

spouse. The natives health also gets affected as it aspects the

lagna. But being weak will not be able to protect general health. It

also causes debts for the spouse. Fortune turns unfavourable. Father

losses name & fame. Presence of Rahu & aspect of Ketu increases

friction in marital life resulting in divorce or separation. High

temper, blood pressure, diabetes, headaches and misunderstanding

dominates. This being also markasthan & presence of Sani in 2nd house

in transit, married native females may lose their husband as untimely

death, only if the life span of their husband is not good in their

chart.

> Simha/Leo: Debilated Jupiter is a blessing in disguise for this

lagna native’s. The writer of this article is also Simha lagna

native. Jupiter has responsibility of 5th & 8th house & Jupiter is

debilated in 6th house along with Rahu & aspect of Ketu. Here Jupiter

is bhav nashak of 6th house; hence all enemies, diseases, loans, and

debts get eliminated. Vipreet raj yog is also formed, (8th lord in

6th house), which indicates sudden financial gains. Karma increases,

also charities to spiritual organizations will increase, and

dhan/finances will increase. But children’s health gets affected;

their concentration in studies will be poor due to presence of Rahu,

some children may take a break or drop out from studies.

> Kanya/Virgo: The natives of this lagna’s will be lucky to some

extent as Rishi Parasher says that when any planet whether debilated

or malefic, is located in trikona sthan (5th or 9th house) it loses

its malefic power & gives benefic results. But Jupiter being

afflicted due to conjunction of Rahu it will also give results along

with the effects of Rahu. Jupiter in this lagna has responsibility of

4th & 7th house, both Kendra’s. Jupiter will be in 5th house. Raj

yog of 4th lord in 5th house is not cancelled. Hence debilitation of

Jupiter will increase luxuries, will increase income from business,

but general health will not be good due to presence of Rahu. Natives

who are in active politics in this lagna will get benefited the most.

Elections can be won. The natives will love their spouses but will

always land up in friction & quarrels. Eligible singles will find

their love mates but after marriage will feel dejected on the choice

of their spouse as

> debilated Jupiter along with Rahu will always give an unclear

image of the mate. Jobless will get new job offers but conditional &

less pay.

> Tula/Libra: In this lagna, Jupiter losses its importance as it has

the responsibility of 3rd & 6th house. Third house deals with

Parakram/Energy & sixth house with debts & disease, and Jupiter will

be placed in 4th house (Kendra). The native’s of this lagna will be

the most affected due to debilitation. Energy level will be low,

debts & diseases will increase, politicians will lose elections,

increase in public enmity will be seen. Loss on untimed /distress

sale of luxuries (like gold, property, land). Loss in agriculture

business. Mother’s health will be a concern, lungs will get

affected very badly, and surgery may arise in disease related to

lungs. Debts will rise, could be default in payments. Mother’s

younger siblings will also get affected, young siblings will cheat,

not repay amount loaned to them. Some relief will be seen when

Jupiter crosses 5 degrees of debilitation. Social contacts will lose

its image & popularity.

> Vrishchik/Scorpio: In this lagna Jupiter has dhan sthan & santaan

sthan. It will be placed in 3rd house. Loss of finances, speech

getting debilated, promises not kept, rudeness, energy level will be

very low, contacts will be lost, social life will lose its image,

problems from children will increase, friction or separation from

children, will affect the natives. Conflicts with spouses may lead to

separation or divorce. Backaches will increase & surgery may be a

possibility. Native’s Father’s health will also get affected.

Quarrels & separation with the young siblings & from the family is

also a possibility.

> Dhanur/Sagittarius: In this lagna, Jupiter has the responsibility

of lagna & 4th house, (Kendra). It will be placed in 2nd house. I.e.

dhan sthan. Natives name & fame will be in jeopardy, finances will

get affected, tendency to cheat financially, anybody who has parked

any money out of faith with this native will never be paid back,

separation from family, frequent headaches, diabetes, backaches,

right eye problem, rude speech, speaking of lies, promises not kept,

distress sale of property including gold & vehicles, loss from

agriculture income, politicians facing opposition from general

public, losing elections, mother’s health detiorating, will be

experienced. But a sudden financial gain is also a possibility. Being

markasthan may also bring untimely death in the family.

> Makar/Capricorn: In this lagna, Jupiter also losses its importance

as it owns 12th & 3rd house. Jupiter will be placed in lagna. Lord of

12th house in lagna indicates health issues like Diabetes, headaches,

backaches, feet pain, low energy level, loss of name & fame, social

issues & problems. Constant fights & quarrels with spouse, may lead

to separation or divorce. Loss of name & fame of young siblings &

separation from them is a possibility. Death in the family of

paternal grandparents is also a possibility. Spiritual touch may also

be lost.

> Kumbh/Aquarius: In this lagna, Jupiter has responsibility of labh

sthan & dhan sthan. Jupiter will be placed in 12th house which is

also vyay sthan. Native’s of this lagna will see heavy to very

heavy losses as lord of labh sthan in vyay & karak for dhan in vyay

and that too debilated. The juice squeezed from the fruit & then

thrown in the dust bin, this situation will arise. Income earned from

business will not stay in hands, losses will occur in business,

orders may get cancelled; overseas contracts may not get renewed or

may get with strict conditional renewals which may not be feasible.

Court cases which may be of criminal nature will mount; visit to

police station, prison, hospital, court, and lawyer will increase.

Tension will mount, natives elder siblings will also see a similar

situation, quarrels & separation from elder siblings will be a

probability. God helps these natives.

> Meen/Pisces: In this lagna, Jupiter has the responsibility of karma

& lagna. It will be placed in 11th house. Natives of this lagna are

always considered the best among the 12 rashi’s as body always

supports whatever karma is executed being the same lord. They are the

luckiest of all the 12 natives. But here due to debilated Jupiter

will feel the pinch of luck running out of them. Self respect, name &

fame which they always command will not favour. Body will not support

the karma they want to execute. Whatever karma is executed will not

see appreciation & acceptances and may face disregard. It will also

affect natives elder siblings.. Relation will strain leading to

quarrels/separation . Even the natives Father’s younger sibling will

also experience the same ill effects. But somehow presence of Rahu

will give the native the will power to face the revolt & be

victorious, that is what Rahu does when in 11th house. However

natives in the business of meat,

> leather, liquor, imports will flourish and reap good gains.

Politicians will also see victory in elections but with bitter &

tough competition. Natives who are in business association with

government agencies will also feel the pinch of higher amount of

under the table favours being demanded. 

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