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Hi,

 

Can you anyone predict the prospects of Mega star Chiranjeevi becoming Chief

Minister of Andhra Pradesh in 2009 elections?

 

He seems to be having the momentum to make a significant impact in Andhra

politics.

 

Chiru Birth Details -

Aug 22 1955

9.42 AM

Narasapur,AP

 

Thanks,

Prasanna

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Dear Prasanna

 

Cheeranjeevi's chart is excellent with yog karak sani exhalted in laga, surya in

its own house, jupiter also exhalted, but he is under sani/rahu dasha & rahu is

debilated will make him popular with the massess but will not give the ultimate

success of raj yog of cheif minister as his lagna, lagna lord, & yog karak

sani are all afflicted by ketu. Ketu destroys the benefits of raj yog. With

afflicted lagna & lagna lord, dhana karak & 4th & 5th  house log afflicted it

will be very difficult for him to reach the goal.

 

GOD BLESS YOU

WITH WARM REGARDS

HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI

VEDIC ASTOLOGER

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CELL +919867214103

(MUMBAI,INDIA)

 

 

 

 

 

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Tuesday, 23 December, 2008 8:46:54 AM

[vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra Pradesh

in 2009

 

 

Hi,

 

Can you anyone predict the prospects of Mega star Chiranjeevi becoming Chief

Minister of Andhra Pradesh in 2009 elections?

 

He seems to be having the momentum to make a significant impact in Andhra

politics.

 

Chiru Birth Details -

Aug 22 1955

9.42 AM

Narasapur,AP

 

Thanks,

Prasanna

 

 

 

 

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Namaskar Prasanna ala

 

Thanks for sharing the chart.

Quite interesting chart -

The navamsha has jupiter the (3rd and 6th lord) with was exaulted in

rashi in debility

Saturn the yoga karaka is debilitated. with the langa lord ( there is

parivarthan)

 

Can you confirm the birth time as the langa just entered libra ( using

lahari ayaamsa )

 

 

Regards

Nandana

 

 

2008/12/23 prasanna ala <prasanna_ala

 

> Hi,

>

> Can you anyone predict the prospects of Mega star Chiranjeevi becoming

> Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh in 2009 elections?

>

> He seems to be having the momentum to make a significant impact in Andhra

> politics.

>

> Chiru Birth Details -

> Aug 22 1955

> 9.42 AM

> Narasapur,AP

>

> Thanks,

> Prasanna

>

>

 

 

 

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Dear Prasana

 

I looked at the Birth Chart of Shri Chiranjeevi, but before some

predictions are made, two things mentioned below must be clarified,

which might have strong bearing on the accuracy of the predictions:

 

1. The lagna of Shri Chiranjeevi changes if there is any birth time

inaccuracy of 42 seconds or a little more. Therefore, it is strongly

advised to first rectify his birth data. For this his nature, look

and stature along with some of his natural events should be given

along with approximate date and time, like his education (10+2),

graduation, post-graduation etc, his marriage, sons/daughter, career

and important occasions thereof and so on.

 

2. There are two " Narasapur " , one at 81 E 40', 16 N 27', and the

other is located at longitude 78 E 0', 13 N 8'. Please clarify which

longitude is correct for his birth place.

 

Without above clarification and rectification it is risky to give

predictions with confidence and accuracy.

 

 

- Dr. Akhilesh Kumar Singh

 

 

 

vedic astrology , prasanna ala

<prasanna_ala wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> Can you anyone predict the prospects of Mega star Chiranjeevi

becoming Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh in 2009 elections?

>

> He seems to be having the momentum to make a significant impact in

Andhra politics.

>

> Chiru Birth Details -

> Aug 22 1955

> 9.42 AM

> Narasapur,AP

>

> Thanks,

> Prasanna

>

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Dear Mr. Nathani,

 

Why Saturn in langa will be good? So what if it is exaulted? It is his

maranakaraka sthana (MKS). A planet in maranakaraka damages bhava where he sits

and the bhavas of its ownership. But here Karaka of Lagna Sun is strong in own

house, so his health or intelligence will not get affected but definitely damage

the 4th house and 5th house matters. In general, an exaulted MKS planet shows

that the person will come out of these troubles after a termoil. I do not know

his personal histry, but he must have gone through a lot of termoil after the

start of his Saturn dasa in 4th (mother, home etc.) and 5th (love, children

etc.) house matters.

 

Look that exaulted Saturn in langa is also forming a sasa mahapurusha yoga.

Exaulted Jupiter in kendra is also forming hamsa mahaprusha yoga. In such cases

where more that one mahapurusha yoga exists, only one (which is strongest) will

work. Draupadi wanted blessing for a husband like Siva from him. In Shiva all

the tattwas are strong. But in human being that is not possible. So she got 5

husbands, in each - one tattwa was strong.

 

However, in Chiranjeevi's case none of the yoga will work fully. Because both

Saturn and Jupiter are debilated in navamsa. Actually this should a case of

rajabhanga neecha yoga. The benefits of the exalted planets in rashi will go to

somebody else.

 

Then how he is so renowned and popular and rich? Exaulted Jupiter in 2nd from

arudha lagna (in gemini) and a strong Sun in 11th house are always blessings in

a horoscope. Jupiter is also karaka for 2nd house. He will constantly sustain

the arudha (image in society). Please note another thing. Jupiter is lord of 3rd

and 6th houses. This is a veeparit yoga (VY, 2 or more dusthana lord conjoins).

When VY happens in a dusthana (3rd, 6th, 8th or 12th house), they should be

weak. But when it happens in a kendra, they must be strong to destroy each

other. When such VY is connected to lagna or atmakaraka - it becomes raja yoga

(VRY). As the destruction happens and out of it - the native is benefitted. Else

somebody else will get the benefit. See here Jup is exalted and sitting in the

house of atmakaraka. So it must have happened that his secret enemies (12H) and

competitors (6H) have fallen - out of which he got benefitted. Those who know

his life history can clarify this. Any way his journey upto this level was not a

smooth one.

 

Also see 3rd and 6th house from arudha lagna. These are the houses of parakram

and winning competition. Malefics are good here for material benefit. He has Sun

and Sun and Mars in 3rd and Rahu in 6th from arudha lagna.

 

Now look at navamsa. For a good acting ability Mercury must be in trine or 7th

from navamsa lagna. He has Mercury in navamsa lagna. To become a good leader Sun

must be in one of those positions. But he has got it in 8th. So no leadership

quality. However that does not mean politicians now a days - all have leadership

quality. So look at D10. Sun must be in artha trikono for a politician. He does

not have that also.

 

So I have doubt about his prospect as a politician.

 

Regards

 

Jk

 

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Behalf Of Haresh (Harry) Nathani

Tuesday, December 23, 2008 1:02 PM

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Re: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

 

Dear Prasanna

 

Cheeranjeevi's chart is excellent with yog karak sani exhalted in laga, surya

in its own house, jupiter also exhalted, but he is under sani/rahu dasha & rahu

is debilated will make him popular with the massess but will not give the

ultimate success of raj yog of cheif minister as his lagna, lagna lord, & yog

karak sani are all afflicted by ketu. Ketu destroys the benefits of raj yog.

With afflicted lagna & lagna lord, dhana karak & 4th & 5th house log afflicted

it will be very difficult for him to reach the goal.

 

GOD BLESS YOU

WITH WARM REGARDS

HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI

VEDIC ASTOLOGER

VAASTU CONSULTANT

CELL +919867214103

(MUMBAI,INDIA)

 

 

________________________________

prasanna ala <prasanna_ala

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Tuesday, 23 December, 2008 8:46:54 AM

[vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

Hi,

 

Can you anyone predict the prospects of Mega star Chiranjeevi becoming Chief

Minister of Andhra Pradesh in 2009 elections?

 

He seems to be having the momentum to make a significant impact in Andhra

politics.

 

Chiru Birth Details -

Aug 22 1955

9.42 AM

Narasapur,AP

 

Thanks,

Prasanna

 

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Dear Mr. J K Dasgupta

 

It is my honour that u hv raised this query to me. Pls accept my obeisance.

 

//Why Saturn in langa will be good? So what if it is exaulted? It is his

maranakaraka sthana (MKS). A planet in maranakaraka damages bhava where he sits

and the bhavas of its ownership. But here Karaka of Lagna Sun is strong in own

house, so his health or intelligence will not get affected but definitely damage

the 4th house and 5th house matters. In general, an exaulted MKS planet shows

that the person will come out of these troubles after a termoil. I do not know

his personal histry, but he must have gone through a lot of termoil after the

start of his Saturn dasa in 4th (mother, home etc.) and 5th (love, children

etc.) house matters.//

 

 

According to Parasar, When the yog karak gets exhalted it enhances the effects

of the house it owns. 4th house is for luxuries & mother, he has more luxuries

than one can imagine. The marak sthan is the 2nd house & not the lagna. Exhalted

sani has given the name, fame, prosperity & also good health, exhalted planet in

lagna also enhances the effects of the house where it is placed. The only

negative point is that he must hv had disturbed marital life, as sani even when

exhalted will always give its naisargic phala, hence disturbance in marital

life. 5th house will give him seperation from children, as being seperative grah

children will not be able to stay with the father, reasons could be any.

 

//Look that exaulted Saturn in langa is also forming a sasa mahapurusha yoga.

Exaulted Jupiter in kendra is also forming hamsa mahaprusha yoga. In such cases

where more that one mahapurusha yoga exists, only one (which is strongest) will

work. Draupadi wanted blessing for a husband like Siva from him. In Shiva all

the tattwas are strong. But in human being that is not possible. So she got 5

husbands, in each - one tattwa was strong.//

 

True but all the exhalted yogs will give its results in the maha dasha/antar

dasha. Because of the main planets guru & sani being exhalted have given him all

the prosperity in the profession he has persued. It is not necessary that only

one yog will give results. The one which is more stronger will give higher

results. Here Guru is more stronger than Sani in naisargikbal, that is why

overall Guru gave him more acclamation but in sani MD sani will then took over

in its bal as its dasha is on.  

 

I do not follow the drekkanna system coz they are misleading accept for navamsa.

Dhan karak Guru is aspecting dhan sthan & dhan swami in labh sthan, this is a

dhandahi yog. This has given him financial prosperity.

 

I have already mentioned in my reply to the mail that he will not be a cheif

minister as planet credentials for political mileage are not favourable. Had he

been in the Guru or Sani MD he could hv been a elected representative & a

minister but nit CM.. But his Sani MD is in its last phase & Budh MD does not

give political mileage. Look at Nawab shariff's chart, he is at present under

budh MD and he is not so successful in political field.

 

 

 

 

GOD BLESS YOU

WITH WARM REGARDS

HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI

VEDIC ASTOLOGER

VAASTU CONSULTANT

INSURANCE ADVISOR

CELL +919867214103

(MUMBAI,INDIA)

 

 

 

 

________________________________

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vedic astrology

Wednesday, 24 December, 2008 6:02:40 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

 

Dear Mr. Nathani,

 

Why Saturn in langa will be good? So what if it is exaulted? It is his

maranakaraka sthana (MKS). A planet in maranakaraka damages bhava where he sits

and the bhavas of its ownership. But here Karaka of Lagna Sun is strong in own

house, so his health or intelligence will not get affected but definitely damage

the 4th house and 5th house matters. In general, an exaulted MKS planet shows

that the person will come out of these troubles after a termoil. I do not know

his personal histry, but he must have gone through a lot of termoil after the

start of his Saturn dasa in 4th (mother, home etc.) and 5th (love, children

etc.) house matters.

 

Look that exaulted Saturn in langa is also forming a sasa mahapurusha yoga.

Exaulted Jupiter in kendra is also forming hamsa mahaprusha yoga. In such cases

where more that one mahapurusha yoga exists, only one (which is strongest) will

work. Draupadi wanted blessing for a husband like Siva from him. In Shiva all

the tattwas are strong. But in human being that is not possible. So she got 5

husbands, in each - one tattwa was strong.

 

However, in Chiranjeevi' s case none of the yoga will work fully. Because both

Saturn and Jupiter are debilated in navamsa. Actually this should a case of

rajabhanga neecha yoga. The benefits of the exalted planets in rashi will go to

somebody else.

 

Then how he is so renowned and popular and rich? Exaulted Jupiter in 2nd from

arudha lagna (in gemini) and a strong Sun in 11th house are always blessings in

a horoscope. Jupiter is also karaka for 2nd house. He will constantly sustain

the arudha (image in society). Please note another thing. Jupiter is lord of 3rd

and 6th houses. This is a veeparit yoga (VY, 2 or more dusthana lord conjoins).

When VY happens in a dusthana (3rd, 6th, 8th or 12th house), they should be

weak. But when it happens in a kendra, they must be strong to destroy each

other. When such VY is connected to lagna or atmakaraka - it becomes raja yoga

(VRY). As the destruction happens and out of it - the native is benefitted. Else

somebody else will get the benefit. See here Jup is exalted and sitting in the

house of atmakaraka. So it must have happened that his secret enemies (12H) and

competitors (6H) have fallen - out of which he got benefitted. Those who know

his life history can

clarify this. Any way his journey upto this level was not a smooth one.

 

Also see 3rd and 6th house from arudha lagna. These are the houses of parakram

and winning competition. Malefics are good here for material benefit.. He has

Sun and Sun and Mars in 3rd and Rahu in 6th from arudha lagna.

 

Now look at navamsa. For a good acting ability Mercury must be in trine or 7th

from navamsa lagna. He has Mercury in navamsa lagna. To become a good leader Sun

must be in one of those positions. But he has got it in 8th. So no leadership

quality. However that does not mean politicians now a days - all have leadership

quality. So look at D10. Sun must be in artha trikono for a politician. He does

not have that also.

 

So I have doubt about his prospect as a politician.

 

Regards

 

Jk

 

----Original Message-----

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com]On Behalf Of Haresh (Harry) Nathani

Tuesday, December 23, 2008 1:02 PM

vedic astrology

Re: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

Dear Prasanna

 

Cheeranjeevi' s chart is excellent with yog karak sani exhalted in laga, surya

in its own house, jupiter also exhalted, but he is under sani/rahu dasha & rahu

is debilated will make him popular with the massess but will not give the

ultimate success of raj yog of cheif minister as his lagna, lagna lord, & yog

karak sani are all afflicted by ketu. Ketu destroys the benefits of raj yog.

With afflicted lagna & lagna lord, dhana karak & 4th & 5th house log afflicted

it will be very difficult for him to reach the goal.

 

GOD BLESS YOU

WITH WARM REGARDS

HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI

VEDIC ASTOLOGER

VAASTU CONSULTANT

CELL +919867214103

(MUMBAI,INDIA)

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

prasanna ala <prasanna_ala@ >

vedic astrology

Tuesday, 23 December, 2008 8:46:54 AM

[vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra Pradesh

in 2009

 

Hi,

 

Can you anyone predict the prospects of Mega star Chiranjeevi becoming Chief

Minister of Andhra Pradesh in 2009 elections?

 

He seems to be having the momentum to make a significant impact in Andhra

politics.

 

Chiru Birth Details -

Aug 22 1955

9.42 AM

Narasapur,AP

 

Thanks,

Prasanna

 

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Dear Mr. Nathani,

 

I am not talking about maraka. Every planet is having its maranakaraka place.

Means,

 

Marana - death, Karaka - significator, Sthan – place

 

 

 

Jatak Parijat gives shlokas about these grahas. Grahas are considered in a dying

avasta in such places as follows,

 

 

 

Sun-12H

 

Moon-8H

 

Mars-7H

 

Mercury-4H & 7H

 

Jupiter-3H

 

Venus-6H

 

Saturn-1H

 

Rahu-9H

 

Ketu-2H but there is doubt

 

 

 

Whenever any graha or a bhava goes through the process of destruction, native

will experience suffering. Marana sthana grahas indicate bad previous karma

which inevitably cause suffering. Any graha in Marana Sthan will affect the

following:

 

 

 

1. It destroys the intelligence of a bhava. We will be forced to approuch the

bhava under the terribly circumstances, as dying.Normally such approach and

attiude will lead to suffering.

 

2. It destroys the bhavas for which a graha is karaka. The luck will vanish in

these bhavas. Such pain will come as a consequence of our attachment for that

graha.

 

3. It will damage the bhavas it rules. We will have to bring choices and make

decisions in a deadly/terrible circumstances.

 

 

 

There are many articles available on this. You can goggle those.

 

 

 

Without looking at Arudhas no prediction is possible. Because that is what

manifests in this world. A child may be very intelligent, He has a brilliant 5H.

But performs poorly in the exam. How you explain that without looking at Arudha

of 5H. If arudha does not support, only with a strong langa or a 10th house -

one cannot rise so much.

 

 

 

If any planet seats at the 7H of Arudha, he is the real badhaka in life.

 

 

 

These are teachings from the parampara I belong.

 

 

 

Warm Regards

 

 

 

Jk

 

 

 

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology ]On Behalf Of Haresh (Harry) Nathani

Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:53 PM

vedic astrology

Re: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

 

Dear Mr. J K Dasgupta

 

It is my honour that u hv raised this query to me. Pls accept my obeisance.

 

//Why Saturn in langa will be good? So what if it is exaulted? It is his

maranakaraka sthana (MKS). A planet in maranakaraka damages bhava where he sits

and the bhavas of its ownership. But here Karaka of Lagna Sun is strong in own

house, so his health or intelligence will not get affected but definitely damage

the 4th house and 5th house matters. In general, an exaulted MKS planet shows

that the person will come out of these troubles after a termoil. I do not know

his personal histry, but he must have gone through a lot of termoil after the

start of his Saturn dasa in 4th (mother, home etc.) and 5th (love, children

etc.) house matters.//

 

According to Parasar, When the yog karak gets exhalted it enhances the effects

of the house it owns. 4th house is for luxuries & mother, he has more luxuries

than one can imagine. The marak sthan is the 2nd house & not the lagna. Exhalted

sani has given the name, fame, prosperity & also good health, exhalted planet in

lagna also enhances the effects of the house where it is placed. The only

negative point is that he must hv had disturbed marital life, as sani even when

exhalted will always give its naisargic phala, hence disturbance in marital

life. 5th house will give him seperation from children, as being seperative grah

children will not be able to stay with the father, reasons could be any.

 

//Look that exaulted Saturn in langa is also forming a sasa mahapurusha yoga.

Exaulted Jupiter in kendra is also forming hamsa mahaprusha yoga. In such cases

where more that one mahapurusha yoga exists, only one (which is strongest) will

work. Draupadi wanted blessing for a husband like Siva from him. In Shiva all

the tattwas are strong. But in human being that is not possible. So she got 5

husbands, in each - one tattwa was strong.//

 

True but all the exhalted yogs will give its results in the maha dasha/antar

dasha. Because of the main planets guru & sani being exhalted have given him all

the prosperity in the profession he has persued. It is not necessary that only

one yog will give results. The one which is more stronger will give higher

results. Here Guru is more stronger than Sani in naisargikbal, that is why

overall Guru gave him more acclamation but in sani MD sani will then took over

in its bal as its dasha is on.

 

I do not follow the drekkanna system coz they are misleading accept for

navamsa. Dhan karak Guru is aspecting dhan sthan & dhan swami in labh sthan,

this is a dhandahi yog. This has given him financial prosperity.

 

I have already mentioned in my reply to the mail that he will not be a cheif

minister as planet credentials for political mileage are not favourable. Had he

been in the Guru or Sani MD he could hv been a elected representative & a

minister but nit CM.. But his Sani MD is in its last phase & Budh MD does not

give political mileage. Look at Nawab shariff's chart, he is at present under

budh MD and he is not so successful in political field.

 

 

GOD BLESS YOU

WITH WARM REGARDS

HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI

VEDIC ASTOLOGER

VAASTU CONSULTANT

INSURANCE ADVISOR

CELL +919867214103

(MUMBAI,INDIA)

 

 

________________________________

jk.dasgupta <jk.dasgupta

vedic astrology

Wednesday, 24 December, 2008 6:02:40 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

Dear Mr. Nathani,

 

Why Saturn in langa will be good? So what if it is exaulted? It is his

maranakaraka sthana (MKS). A planet in maranakaraka damages bhava where he sits

and the bhavas of its ownership. But here Karaka of Lagna Sun is strong in own

house, so his health or intelligence will not get affected but definitely damage

the 4th house and 5th house matters. In general, an exaulted MKS planet shows

that the person will come out of these troubles after a termoil. I do not know

his personal histry, but he must have gone through a lot of termoil after the

start of his Saturn dasa in 4th (mother, home etc.) and 5th (love, children

etc.) house matters.

 

Look that exaulted Saturn in langa is also forming a sasa mahapurusha yoga.

Exaulted Jupiter in kendra is also forming hamsa mahaprusha yoga. In such cases

where more that one mahapurusha yoga exists, only one (which is strongest) will

work. Draupadi wanted blessing for a husband like Siva from him. In Shiva all

the tattwas are strong. But in human being that is not possible. So she got 5

husbands, in each - one tattwa was strong.

 

However, in Chiranjeevi' s case none of the yoga will work fully. Because both

Saturn and Jupiter are debilated in navamsa. Actually this should a case of

rajabhanga neecha yoga. The benefits of the exalted planets in rashi will go to

somebody else.

 

Then how he is so renowned and popular and rich? Exaulted Jupiter in 2nd from

arudha lagna (in gemini) and a strong Sun in 11th house are always blessings in

a horoscope. Jupiter is also karaka for 2nd house. He will constantly sustain

the arudha (image in society). Please note another thing. Jupiter is lord of 3rd

and 6th houses. This is a veeparit yoga (VY, 2 or more dusthana lord conjoins).

When VY happens in a dusthana (3rd, 6th, 8th or 12th house), they should be

weak. But when it happens in a kendra, they must be strong to destroy each

other. When such VY is connected to lagna or atmakaraka - it becomes raja yoga

(VRY). As the destruction happens and out of it - the native is benefitted. Else

somebody else will get the benefit. See here Jup is exalted and sitting in the

house of atmakaraka. So it must have happened that his secret enemies (12H) and

competitors (6H) have fallen - out of which he got benefitted. Those who know

his life history can

clarify this. Any way his journey upto this level was not a smooth one.

 

Also see 3rd and 6th house from arudha lagna. These are the houses of parakram

and winning competition. Malefics are good here for material benefit.. He has

Sun and Sun and Mars in 3rd and Rahu in 6th from arudha lagna.

 

Now look at navamsa. For a good acting ability Mercury must be in trine or 7th

from navamsa lagna. He has Mercury in navamsa lagna. To become a good leader Sun

must be in one of those positions. But he has got it in 8th. So no leadership

quality. However that does not mean politicians now a days - all have leadership

quality. So look at D10. Sun must be in artha trikono for a politician. He does

not have that also.

 

So I have doubt about his prospect as a politician.

 

Regards

 

Jk

 

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Tuesday, December 23, 2008 1:02 PM

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Re: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

Dear Prasanna

 

Cheeranjeevi' s chart is excellent with yog karak sani exhalted in laga, surya

in its own house, jupiter also exhalted, but he is under sani/rahu dasha & rahu

is debilated will make him popular with the massess but will not give the

ultimate success of raj yog of cheif minister as his lagna, lagna lord, & yog

karak sani are all afflicted by ketu. Ketu destroys the benefits of raj yog.

With afflicted lagna & lagna lord, dhana karak & 4th & 5th house log afflicted

it will be very difficult for him to reach the goal.

 

GOD BLESS YOU

WITH WARM REGARDS

HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI

VEDIC ASTOLOGER

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Tuesday, 23 December, 2008 8:46:54 AM

[vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

Hi,

 

Can you anyone predict the prospects of Mega star Chiranjeevi becoming Chief

Minister of Andhra Pradesh in 2009 elections?

 

He seems to be having the momentum to make a significant impact in Andhra

politics.

 

Chiru Birth Details -

Aug 22 1955

9.42 AM

Narasapur,AP

 

Thanks,

Prasanna

 

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Dear Betaa Dasgupta,

                              MKS and Badhaka really doesnt work.

 

If i am wrong then see in those teachings that how they have made U-Turn.

 

And i have worked for that for more than 2 months now i have left, like they

left K N Rao.

 

Chaloo hawa aanay dooo betaa....

 

Best wishes,

Indian Kachua

 

 

--- On Wed, 12/24/08, jk.dasgupta <jk.dasgupta wrote:

 

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RE: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

vedic astrology

Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 2:09 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Nathani,

 

I am not talking about maraka. Every planet is having its maranakaraka place.

Means,

 

Marana - death, Karaka - significator, Sthan – place

 

Jatak Parijat gives shlokas about these grahas. Grahas are considered in a dying

avasta in such places as follows,

 

Sun-12H

 

Moon-8H

 

Mars-7H

 

Mercury-4H & 7H

 

Jupiter-3H

 

Venus-6H

 

Saturn-1H

 

Rahu-9H

 

Ketu-2H but there is doubt

 

Whenever any graha or a bhava goes through the process of destruction, native

will experience suffering. Marana sthana grahas indicate bad previous karma

which inevitably cause suffering. Any graha in Marana Sthan will affect the

following:

 

1. It destroys the intelligence of a bhava. We will be forced to approuch the

bhava under the terribly circumstances, as dying.Normally such approach and

attiude will lead to suffering.

 

2. It destroys the bhavas for which a graha is karaka. The luck will vanish in

these bhavas. Such pain will come as a consequence of our attachment for that

graha.

 

3. It will damage the bhavas it rules. We will have to bring choices and make

decisions in a deadly/terrible circumstances.

 

There are many articles available on this. You can goggle those.

 

Without looking at Arudhas no prediction is possible. Because that is what

manifests in this world. A child may be very intelligent, He has a brilliant 5H.

But performs poorly in the exam. How you explain that without looking at Arudha

of 5H. If arudha does not support, only with a strong langa or a 10th house -

one cannot rise so much.

 

If any planet seats at the 7H of Arudha, he is the real badhaka in life.

 

These are teachings from the parampara I belong.

 

Warm Regards

 

Jk

 

 

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Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:53 PM

vedic astrology

Re: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

Dear Mr. J K Dasgupta

 

It is my honour that u hv raised this query to me. Pls accept my obeisance.

 

//Why Saturn in langa will be good? So what if it is exaulted? It is his

maranakaraka sthana (MKS). A planet in maranakaraka damages bhava where he sits

and the bhavas of its ownership. But here Karaka of Lagna Sun is strong in own

house, so his health or intelligence will not get affected but definitely damage

the 4th house and 5th house matters. In general, an exaulted MKS planet shows

that the person will come out of these troubles after a termoil. I do not know

his personal histry, but he must have gone through a lot of termoil after the

start of his Saturn dasa in 4th (mother, home etc.) and 5th (love, children

etc.) house matters.//

 

According to Parasar, When the yog karak gets exhalted it enhances the effects

of the house it owns. 4th house is for luxuries & mother, he has more luxuries

than one can imagine. The marak sthan is the 2nd house & not the lagna. Exhalted

sani has given the name, fame, prosperity & also good health, exhalted planet in

lagna also enhances the effects of the house where it is placed. The only

negative point is that he must hv had disturbed marital life, as sani even when

exhalted will always give its naisargic phala, hence disturbance in marital

life. 5th house will give him seperation from children, as being seperative grah

children will not be able to stay with the father, reasons could be any.

 

//Look that exaulted Saturn in langa is also forming a sasa mahapurusha yoga.

Exaulted Jupiter in kendra is also forming hamsa mahaprusha yoga. In such cases

where more that one mahapurusha yoga exists, only one (which is strongest) will

work. Draupadi wanted blessing for a husband like Siva from him. In Shiva all

the tattwas are strong. But in human being that is not possible. So she got 5

husbands, in each - one tattwa was strong.//

 

True but all the exhalted yogs will give its results in the maha dasha/antar

dasha. Because of the main planets guru & sani being exhalted have given him all

the prosperity in the profession he has persued. It is not necessary that only

one yog will give results. The one which is more stronger will give higher

results. Here Guru is more stronger than Sani in naisargikbal, that is why

overall Guru gave him more acclamation but in sani MD sani will then took over

in its bal as its dasha is on.

 

I do not follow the drekkanna system coz they are misleading accept for navamsa.

Dhan karak Guru is aspecting dhan sthan & dhan swami in labh sthan, this is a

dhandahi yog. This has given him financial prosperity.

 

I have already mentioned in my reply to the mail that he will not be a cheif

minister as planet credentials for political mileage are not favourable. Had he

been in the Guru or Sani MD he could hv been a elected representative & a

minister but nit CM.. But his Sani MD is in its last phase & Budh MD does not

give political mileage. Look at Nawab shariff's chart, he is at present under

budh MD and he is not so successful in political field.

 

GOD BLESS YOU

WITH WARM REGARDS

HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI

VEDIC ASTOLOGER

VAASTU CONSULTANT

INSURANCE ADVISOR

CELL +919867214103

(MUMBAI,INDIA)

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

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Wednesday, 24 December, 2008 6:02:40 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

Dear Mr. Nathani,

 

Why Saturn in langa will be good? So what if it is exaulted? It is his

maranakaraka sthana (MKS). A planet in maranakaraka damages bhava where he sits

and the bhavas of its ownership. But here Karaka of Lagna Sun is strong in own

house, so his health or intelligence will not get affected but definitely damage

the 4th house and 5th house matters. In general, an exaulted MKS planet shows

that the person will come out of these troubles after a termoil. I do not know

his personal histry, but he must have gone through a lot of termoil after the

start of his Saturn dasa in 4th (mother, home etc.) and 5th (love, children

etc.) house matters.

 

Look that exaulted Saturn in langa is also forming a sasa mahapurusha yoga.

Exaulted Jupiter in kendra is also forming hamsa mahaprusha yoga. In such cases

where more that one mahapurusha yoga exists, only one (which is strongest) will

work. Draupadi wanted blessing for a husband like Siva from him. In Shiva all

the tattwas are strong. But in human being that is not possible. So she got 5

husbands, in each - one tattwa was strong.

 

However, in Chiranjeevi' s case none of the yoga will work fully. Because both

Saturn and Jupiter are debilated in navamsa. Actually this should a case of

rajabhanga neecha yoga. The benefits of the exalted planets in rashi will go to

somebody else.

 

Then how he is so renowned and popular and rich? Exaulted Jupiter in 2nd from

arudha lagna (in gemini) and a strong Sun in 11th house are always blessings in

a horoscope. Jupiter is also karaka for 2nd house. He will constantly sustain

the arudha (image in society). Please note another thing. Jupiter is lord of 3rd

and 6th houses. This is a veeparit yoga (VY, 2 or more dusthana lord conjoins).

When VY happens in a dusthana (3rd, 6th, 8th or 12th house), they should be

weak. But when it happens in a kendra, they must be strong to destroy each

other. When such VY is connected to lagna or atmakaraka - it becomes raja yoga

(VRY). As the destruction happens and out of it - the native is benefitted. Else

somebody else will get the benefit. See here Jup is exalted and sitting in the

house of atmakaraka. So it must have happened that his secret enemies (12H) and

competitors (6H) have fallen - out of which he got benefitted. Those who know

his life history can

clarify this. Any way his journey upto this level was not a smooth one.

 

Also see 3rd and 6th house from arudha lagna. These are the houses of parakram

and winning competition. Malefics are good here for material benefit.. He has

Sun and Sun and Mars in 3rd and Rahu in 6th from arudha lagna.

 

Now look at navamsa. For a good acting ability Mercury must be in trine or 7th

from navamsa lagna. He has Mercury in navamsa lagna. To become a good leader Sun

must be in one of those positions. But he has got it in 8th. So no leadership

quality. However that does not mean politicians now a days - all have leadership

quality. So look at D10. Sun must be in artha trikono for a politician. He does

not have that also.

 

So I have doubt about his prospect as a politician.

 

Regards

 

Jk

 

----Original Message-----

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Tuesday, December 23, 2008 1:02 PM

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Re: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

Dear Prasanna

 

Cheeranjeevi' s chart is excellent with yog karak sani exhalted in laga, surya

in its own house, jupiter also exhalted, but he is under sani/rahu dasha & rahu

is debilated will make him popular with the massess but will not give the

ultimate success of raj yog of cheif minister as his lagna, lagna lord, & yog

karak sani are all afflicted by ketu. Ketu destroys the benefits of raj yog.

With afflicted lagna & lagna lord, dhana karak & 4th & 5th house log afflicted

it will be very difficult for him to reach the goal.

 

GOD BLESS YOU

WITH WARM REGARDS

HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI

VEDIC ASTOLOGER

VAASTU CONSULTANT

CELL +919867214103

(MUMBAI,INDIA)

 

____________ _________ _________ __

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Tuesday, 23 December, 2008 8:46:54 AM

[vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra Pradesh

in 2009

 

Hi,

 

Can you anyone predict the prospects of Mega star Chiranjeevi becoming Chief

Minister of Andhra Pradesh in 2009 elections?

 

He seems to be having the momentum to make a significant impact in Andhra

politics.

 

Chiru Birth Details -

Aug 22 1955

9.42 AM

Narasapur,AP

 

Thanks,

Prasanna

 

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Dasgupta ji,

 

Have you found this to be true in your practice for all three

triplicities (C S D)? :-)

 

Thanks

 

RR

 

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Dear RRji,

 

I could not understand `three triplicities (C S D)'. Assuming that you are

talking about badhaka of arudha.

 

Yes, reading based on arudhas, works wonder. 7th from arudha is the door

through which arudha has to rise in this world. If a weak (specially

debilated) planet seats at 7th from arudha lagna, it is very difficult to

apease that planet and repeated obstruction is placed in rising of arudha.

One has to break it and go out.

 

But if a strong (specially exalted) planet seats there, one has to just go

in that direction and he will be welcomed with red carpet. Planets' natural

karakattwa will show who is standing at the door. Moon-mother or mother

figures, Sun-father or father figures, Mars-brothers, Mercury-relatives or

friends, Rahu-foreigners... like that.

 

In case of upapada (arudha of 12th house), they are all in laws. See Menaka

Gandhi's chart. She has Moon in 7th from upapada. She was never accepted by

her mother in law.

 

I will be glad to share in detail my further views on any of the theories I

mentioned in my mail on Chiranjeevi. Actually when I saw the chart, I was

confused, how this man can rise like this - with 2 rajabhanga neecha yogas.

Then it seemed to me that his arudha is working here. Lately I was searching

net to know more about his personal life. In fact he has faced trouble from

his daughter in recent times. 5th lord Saturn in MKS :-O.

 

If Sun was not strong, his health would have affected badly. However,

exalted MKS planet shows that he will fight all odds and come out of

trouble.

 

It is a fact that all this kalasharpa yoga, kala amrita yoga, curses,

badhakas, power of planets sitting in 5H... all works. I myself am a victim

of all these together. Till the time I could understand fully all these

things - already got beaten up severely. :-(

 

Regards

 

Jk

 

 

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[vedic astrology ]On Behalf Of Rohiniranjan

Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:09 AM

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[vedic astrology] Re: Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

 

Dasgupta ji,

 

Have you found this to be true in your practice for all three

triplicities (C S D)? :-)

 

Thanks

 

RR

 

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> If any planet seats at the 7H of Arudha, he is the real badhaka in

life.

>

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Dasgupta ji,

 

My apologies for my cryptic message and abbreviations (arsa longa

vita brevis!)!

 

But it brought forth such wonderful kanthaal phol when you expressed

more fully! I miss Kanthaal! Thorny outside (kanta) but delicious and

rich in protein inside and golden yellow just like JUPITER!

 

The CSD triplicity was referring to Chara, Sthira, Dwiswabhava of

course -- signs with different aspects and different badhakas, of

course!

 

Merry Christmas!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

vedic astrology , " jk.dasgupta "

<jk.dasgupta wrote:

>

> Dear RRji,

>

> I could not understand `three triplicities (C S D)'. Assuming that

you are

> talking about badhaka of arudha.

>

> Yes, reading based on arudhas, works wonder. 7th from arudha is the

door

> through which arudha has to rise in this world. If a weak (specially

> debilated) planet seats at 7th from arudha lagna, it is very

difficult to

> apease that planet and repeated obstruction is placed in rising of

arudha.

> One has to break it and go out.

>

> But if a strong (specially exalted) planet seats there, one has to

just go

> in that direction and he will be welcomed with red carpet. Planets'

natural

> karakattwa will show who is standing at the door. Moon-mother or

mother

> figures, Sun-father or father figures, Mars-brothers, Mercury-

relatives or

> friends, Rahu-foreigners... like that.

>

> In case of upapada (arudha of 12th house), they are all in laws.

See Menaka

> Gandhi's chart. She has Moon in 7th from upapada. She was never

accepted by

> her mother in law.

>

> I will be glad to share in detail my further views on any of the

theories I

> mentioned in my mail on Chiranjeevi. Actually when I saw the chart,

I was

> confused, how this man can rise like this - with 2 rajabhanga

neecha yogas.

> Then it seemed to me that his arudha is working here. Lately I was

searching

> net to know more about his personal life. In fact he has faced

trouble from

> his daughter in recent times. 5th lord Saturn in MKS :-O.

>

> If Sun was not strong, his health would have affected badly.

However,

> exalted MKS planet shows that he will fight all odds and come out of

> trouble.

>

> It is a fact that all this kalasharpa yoga, kala amrita yoga,

curses,

> badhakas, power of planets sitting in 5H... all works. I myself am

a victim

> of all these together. Till the time I could understand fully all

these

> things - already got beaten up severely. :-(

>

> Regards

>

> Jk

>

>

>

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology ]On Behalf Of Rohiniranjan

> Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:09 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM

of Andhra

> Pradesh in 2009

>

>

> Dasgupta ji,

>

> Have you found this to be true in your practice for all three

> triplicities (C S D)? :-)

>

> Thanks

>

> RR

>

> vedic astrology , " jk.dasgupta "

<jk.dasgupta@>

> wrote:

> > <snip>

>

> > If any planet seats at the 7H of Arudha, he is the real badhaka

in

> life.

> >

> ><snip>

 

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Thank you very much sir for educating me on this matter.

 

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Wednesday, 24 December, 2008 7:39:21 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

 

Dear Mr. Nathani,

 

I am not talking about maraka. Every planet is having its maranakaraka place.

Means,

 

Marana - death, Karaka - significator, Sthan – place

 

Jatak Parijat gives shlokas about these grahas. Grahas are considered in a dying

avasta in such places as follows,

 

Sun-12H

 

Moon-8H

 

Mars-7H

 

Mercury-4H & 7H

 

Jupiter-3H

 

Venus-6H

 

Saturn-1H

 

Rahu-9H

 

Ketu-2H but there is doubt

 

Whenever any graha or a bhava goes through the process of destruction, native

will experience suffering. Marana sthana grahas indicate bad previous karma

which inevitably cause suffering. Any graha in Marana Sthan will affect the

following:

 

1. It destroys the intelligence of a bhava. We will be forced to approuch the

bhava under the terribly circumstances, as dying.Normally such approach and

attiude will lead to suffering.

 

2. It destroys the bhavas for which a graha is karaka. The luck will vanish in

these bhavas. Such pain will come as a consequence of our attachment for that

graha.

 

3. It will damage the bhavas it rules. We will have to bring choices and make

decisions in a deadly/terrible circumstances.

 

There are many articles available on this. You can goggle those.

 

Without looking at Arudhas no prediction is possible. Because that is what

manifests in this world. A child may be very intelligent, He has a brilliant 5H.

But performs poorly in the exam. How you explain that without looking at Arudha

of 5H. If arudha does not support, only with a strong langa or a 10th house -

one cannot rise so much.

 

If any planet seats at the 7H of Arudha, he is the real badhaka in life.

 

These are teachings from the parampara I belong.

 

Warm Regards

 

Jk

 

 

vedic astrology [vedic astrology@ .

com]On Behalf Of Haresh (Harry) Nathani

Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:53 PM

vedic astrology

Re: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

Dear Mr. J K Dasgupta

 

It is my honour that u hv raised this query to me. Pls accept my obeisance.

 

//Why Saturn in langa will be good? So what if it is exaulted? It is his

maranakaraka sthana (MKS). A planet in maranakaraka damages bhava where he sits

and the bhavas of its ownership. But here Karaka of Lagna Sun is strong in own

house, so his health or intelligence will not get affected but definitely damage

the 4th house and 5th house matters. In general, an exaulted MKS planet shows

that the person will come out of these troubles after a termoil. I do not know

his personal histry, but he must have gone through a lot of termoil after the

start of his Saturn dasa in 4th (mother, home etc..) and 5th (love, children

etc.) house matters.//

 

According to Parasar, When the yog karak gets exhalted it enhances the effects

of the house it owns. 4th house is for luxuries & mother, he has more luxuries

than one can imagine. The marak sthan is the 2nd house & not the lagna. Exhalted

sani has given the name, fame, prosperity & also good health, exhalted planet in

lagna also enhances the effects of the house where it is placed. The only

negative point is that he must hv had disturbed marital life, as sani even when

exhalted will always give its naisargic phala, hence disturbance in marital

life. 5th house will give him seperation from children, as being seperative grah

children will not be able to stay with the father, reasons could be any.

 

//Look that exaulted Saturn in langa is also forming a sasa mahapurusha yoga.

Exaulted Jupiter in kendra is also forming hamsa mahaprusha yoga. In such cases

where more that one mahapurusha yoga exists, only one (which is strongest) will

work. Draupadi wanted blessing for a husband like Siva from him. In Shiva all

the tattwas are strong. But in human being that is not possible. So she got 5

husbands, in each - one tattwa was strong.//

 

True but all the exhalted yogs will give its results in the maha dasha/antar

dasha. Because of the main planets guru & sani being exhalted have given him all

the prosperity in the profession he has persued. It is not necessary that only

one yog will give results. The one which is more stronger will give higher

results. Here Guru is more stronger than Sani in naisargikbal, that is why

overall Guru gave him more acclamation but in sani MD sani will then took over

in its bal as its dasha is on.

 

I do not follow the drekkanna system coz they are misleading accept for navamsa.

Dhan karak Guru is aspecting dhan sthan & dhan swami in labh sthan, this is a

dhandahi yog. This has given him financial prosperity.

 

I have already mentioned in my reply to the mail that he will not be a cheif

minister as planet credentials for political mileage are not favourable. Had he

been in the Guru or Sani MD he could hv been a elected representative & a

minister but nit CM.. But his Sani MD is in its last phase & Budh MD does not

give political mileage. Look at Nawab shariff's chart, he is at present under

budh MD and he is not so successful in political field.

 

GOD BLESS YOU

WITH WARM REGARDS

HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI

VEDIC ASTOLOGER

VAASTU CONSULTANT

INSURANCE ADVISOR

CELL +919867214103

(MUMBAI,INDIA)

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

jk.dasgupta <jk.dasgupta@ gmail.com>

vedic astrology

Wednesday, 24 December, 2008 6:02:40 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

Dear Mr. Nathani,

 

Why Saturn in langa will be good? So what if it is exaulted? It is his

maranakaraka sthana (MKS). A planet in maranakaraka damages bhava where he sits

and the bhavas of its ownership. But here Karaka of Lagna Sun is strong in own

house, so his health or intelligence will not get affected but definitely damage

the 4th house and 5th house matters. In general, an exaulted MKS planet shows

that the person will come out of these troubles after a termoil. I do not know

his personal histry, but he must have gone through a lot of termoil after the

start of his Saturn dasa in 4th (mother, home etc.) and 5th (love, children

etc.) house matters.

 

Look that exaulted Saturn in langa is also forming a sasa mahapurusha yoga.

Exaulted Jupiter in kendra is also forming hamsa mahaprusha yoga. In such cases

where more that one mahapurusha yoga exists, only one (which is strongest) will

work. Draupadi wanted blessing for a husband like Siva from him. In Shiva all

the tattwas are strong. But in human being that is not possible. So she got 5

husbands, in each - one tattwa was strong.

 

However, in Chiranjeevi' s case none of the yoga will work fully. Because both

Saturn and Jupiter are debilated in navamsa. Actually this should a case of

rajabhanga neecha yoga. The benefits of the exalted planets in rashi will go to

somebody else.

 

Then how he is so renowned and popular and rich? Exaulted Jupiter in 2nd from

arudha lagna (in gemini) and a strong Sun in 11th house are always blessings in

a horoscope. Jupiter is also karaka for 2nd house. He will constantly sustain

the arudha (image in society). Please note another thing. Jupiter is lord of 3rd

and 6th houses. This is a veeparit yoga (VY, 2 or more dusthana lord conjoins).

When VY happens in a dusthana (3rd, 6th, 8th or 12th house), they should be

weak. But when it happens in a kendra, they must be strong to destroy each

other. When such VY is connected to lagna or atmakaraka - it becomes raja yoga

(VRY). As the destruction happens and out of it - the native is benefitted. Else

somebody else will get the benefit. See here Jup is exalted and sitting in the

house of atmakaraka. So it must have happened that his secret enemies (12H) and

competitors (6H) have fallen - out of which he got benefitted. Those who know

his life history can

clarify this. Any way his journey upto this level was not a smooth one.

 

Also see 3rd and 6th house from arudha lagna. These are the houses of parakram

and winning competition. Malefics are good here for material benefit.. He has

Sun and Sun and Mars in 3rd and Rahu in 6th from arudha lagna.

 

Now look at navamsa. For a good acting ability Mercury must be in trine or 7th

from navamsa lagna. He has Mercury in navamsa lagna. To become a good leader Sun

must be in one of those positions. But he has got it in 8th. So no leadership

quality. However that does not mean politicians now a days - all have leadership

quality. So look at D10. Sun must be in artha trikono for a politician. He does

not have that also.

 

So I have doubt about his prospect as a politician.

 

Regards

 

Jk

 

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Dear Prasanna

 

Cheeranjeevi' s chart is excellent with yog karak sani exhalted in laga, surya

in its own house, jupiter also exhalted, but he is under sani/rahu dasha & rahu

is debilated will make him popular with the massess but will not give the

ultimate success of raj yog of cheif minister as his lagna, lagna lord, & yog

karak sani are all afflicted by ketu. Ketu destroys the benefits of raj yog.

With afflicted lagna & lagna lord, dhana karak & 4th & 5th house log afflicted

it will be very difficult for him to reach the goal.

 

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Tuesday, 23 December, 2008 8:46:54 AM

[vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra Pradesh

in 2009

 

Hi,

 

Can you anyone predict the prospects of Mega star Chiranjeevi becoming Chief

Minister of Andhra Pradesh in 2009 elections?

 

He seems to be having the momentum to make a significant impact in Andhra

politics.

 

Chiru Birth Details -

Aug 22 1955

9.42 AM

Narasapur,AP

 

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Dear RRji,

 

Oh, surely badhakas work. But I have seen badhakas in rashi is more pron to

attack physically i.e on health. Planets sitting in badhaka house is more

dangerous. I have ketu as badhakesh sitting in my badhakasthana Scorpio. As

soon as I entered Sat-Ketu in Nov'2005, I started getting health problems

one by one like deep vain thrombosys in leg (Ketu was transiting my 9th

house then), harpis, high cholesterol, high blood presure, high fever

without any apparant reason etc. That is when I was to admitted in hospital

for the first time in my life.

 

I was adviced bypass surgery for deep vain thrombosys and stop smoking

totally. I have not done anything. Just went through homeopathy and after

ketu sub was over my health is back to normal. The blood blockage also has

disapeared :-)

 

Another problematic planet, who is sitting in 12th house in navamsa.

Fortunately enough - I have again Ketu there. :D

 

Real badhaka in life is from arudha lagna. And real protector is the planet

sitting in 9th from arudha lagna and from navamsa lagna in D9 chart. If no

planet then, the lord himself.

 

Another transit is bad for health. Sade sati in rashi. This is one teaching

from our parampara. Actually people are afraid of sade sati. But sade sati

in rashi affects health only. How much - depends on how malefic Saturn is in

the chart. Sade sati on navamsa moon position is the real trouble maker in

life. You can check it in your own chart. Take the navamsa position of moon

in rashi and look at the period of sade sati over that position.

 

BTW, I can guess that you are also from Bengal. Else you would not have

missed Kanthaal :-)

 

Regards

 

Jk

 

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology ]On Behalf Of Rohiniranjan

Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:30 AM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

 

Dasgupta ji,

 

My apologies for my cryptic message and abbreviations (arsa longa

vita brevis!)!

 

But it brought forth such wonderful kanthaal phol when you expressed

more fully! I miss Kanthaal! Thorny outside (kanta) but delicious and

rich in protein inside and golden yellow just like JUPITER!

 

The CSD triplicity was referring to Chara, Sthira, Dwiswabhava of

course -- signs with different aspects and different badhakas, of

course!

 

Merry Christmas!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

vedic astrology , " jk.dasgupta "

<jk.dasgupta wrote:

>

> Dear RRji,

>

> I could not understand `three triplicities (C S D)'. Assuming that

you are

> talking about badhaka of arudha.

>

> Yes, reading based on arudhas, works wonder. 7th from arudha is the

door

> through which arudha has to rise in this world. If a weak (specially

> debilated) planet seats at 7th from arudha lagna, it is very

difficult to

> apease that planet and repeated obstruction is placed in rising of

arudha.

> One has to break it and go out.

>

> But if a strong (specially exalted) planet seats there, one has to

just go

> in that direction and he will be welcomed with red carpet. Planets'

natural

> karakattwa will show who is standing at the door. Moon-mother or

mother

> figures, Sun-father or father figures, Mars-brothers, Mercury-

relatives or

> friends, Rahu-foreigners... like that.

>

> In case of upapada (arudha of 12th house), they are all in laws.

See Menaka

> Gandhi's chart. She has Moon in 7th from upapada. She was never

accepted by

> her mother in law.

>

> I will be glad to share in detail my further views on any of the

theories I

> mentioned in my mail on Chiranjeevi. Actually when I saw the chart,

I was

> confused, how this man can rise like this - with 2 rajabhanga

neecha yogas.

> Then it seemed to me that his arudha is working here. Lately I was

searching

> net to know more about his personal life. In fact he has faced

trouble from

> his daughter in recent times. 5th lord Saturn in MKS :-O.

>

> If Sun was not strong, his health would have affected badly.

However,

> exalted MKS planet shows that he will fight all odds and come out of

> trouble.

>

> It is a fact that all this kalasharpa yoga, kala amrita yoga,

curses,

> badhakas, power of planets sitting in 5H... all works. I myself am

a victim

> of all these together. Till the time I could understand fully all

these

> things - already got beaten up severely. :-(

>

> Regards

>

> Jk

>

>

>

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology ]On Behalf Of Rohiniranjan

> Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:09 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM

of Andhra

> Pradesh in 2009

>

>

> Dasgupta ji,

>

> Have you found this to be true in your practice for all three

> triplicities (C S D)? :-)

>

> Thanks

>

> RR

>

> vedic astrology , " jk.dasgupta "

<jk.dasgupta@>

> wrote:

> > <snip>

>

> > If any planet seats at the 7H of Arudha, he is the real badhaka

in

> life.

> >

> ><snip>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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you are welcome.

 

But it is not educating. It is a simple exchange of this spiritual knowledge and

views. Jyotish is so vast that one lifetime is not enough to even get a glimpse

of the knowledge.

 

Regards

 

Jk

 

 

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Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:40 AM

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Dear Mr JK. Dasgupta

 

Thank you very much sir for educating me on this matter.

 

GOD BLESS YOU

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Wednesday, 24 December, 2008 7:39:21 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

Dear Mr. Nathani,

 

I am not talking about maraka. Every planet is having its maranakaraka place.

Means,

 

Marana - death, Karaka - significator, Sthan – place

 

Jatak Parijat gives shlokas about these grahas. Grahas are considered in a

dying avasta in such places as follows,

 

Sun-12H

 

Moon-8H

 

Mars-7H

 

Mercury-4H & 7H

 

Jupiter-3H

 

Venus-6H

 

Saturn-1H

 

Rahu-9H

 

Ketu-2H but there is doubt

 

Whenever any graha or a bhava goes through the process of destruction, native

will experience suffering. Marana sthana grahas indicate bad previous karma

which inevitably cause suffering. Any graha in Marana Sthan will affect the

following:

 

1. It destroys the intelligence of a bhava. We will be forced to approuch the

bhava under the terribly circumstances, as dying.Normally such approach and

attiude will lead to suffering.

 

2. It destroys the bhavas for which a graha is karaka. The luck will vanish in

these bhavas. Such pain will come as a consequence of our attachment for that

graha.

 

3. It will damage the bhavas it rules. We will have to bring choices and make

decisions in a deadly/terrible circumstances.

 

There are many articles available on this. You can goggle those.

 

Without looking at Arudhas no prediction is possible. Because that is what

manifests in this world. A child may be very intelligent, He has a brilliant 5H.

But performs poorly in the exam. How you explain that without looking at Arudha

of 5H. If arudha does not support, only with a strong langa or a 10th house -

one cannot rise so much.

 

If any planet seats at the 7H of Arudha, he is the real badhaka in life.

 

These are teachings from the parampara I belong.

 

Warm Regards

 

Jk

 

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Wednesday, December 24, 2008 6:53 PM

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Dear Mr. J K Dasgupta

 

It is my honour that u hv raised this query to me. Pls accept my obeisance.

 

//Why Saturn in langa will be good? So what if it is exaulted? It is his

maranakaraka sthana (MKS). A planet in maranakaraka damages bhava where he sits

and the bhavas of its ownership. But here Karaka of Lagna Sun is strong in own

house, so his health or intelligence will not get affected but definitely damage

the 4th house and 5th house matters. In general, an exaulted MKS planet shows

that the person will come out of these troubles after a termoil. I do not know

his personal histry, but he must have gone through a lot of termoil after the

start of his Saturn dasa in 4th (mother, home etc..) and 5th (love, children

etc.) house matters.//

 

According to Parasar, When the yog karak gets exhalted it enhances the effects

of the house it owns. 4th house is for luxuries & mother, he has more luxuries

than one can imagine. The marak sthan is the 2nd house & not the lagna. Exhalted

sani has given the name, fame, prosperity & also good health, exhalted planet in

lagna also enhances the effects of the house where it is placed. The only

negative point is that he must hv had disturbed marital life, as sani even when

exhalted will always give its naisargic phala, hence disturbance in marital

life. 5th house will give him seperation from children, as being seperative grah

children will not be able to stay with the father, reasons could be any.

 

//Look that exaulted Saturn in langa is also forming a sasa mahapurusha yoga.

Exaulted Jupiter in kendra is also forming hamsa mahaprusha yoga. In such cases

where more that one mahapurusha yoga exists, only one (which is strongest) will

work. Draupadi wanted blessing for a husband like Siva from him. In Shiva all

the tattwas are strong. But in human being that is not possible. So she got 5

husbands, in each - one tattwa was strong.//

 

True but all the exhalted yogs will give its results in the maha dasha/antar

dasha. Because of the main planets guru & sani being exhalted have given him all

the prosperity in the profession he has persued. It is not necessary that only

one yog will give results. The one which is more stronger will give higher

results. Here Guru is more stronger than Sani in naisargikbal, that is why

overall Guru gave him more acclamation but in sani MD sani will then took over

in its bal as its dasha is on.

 

I do not follow the drekkanna system coz they are misleading accept for

navamsa. Dhan karak Guru is aspecting dhan sthan & dhan swami in labh sthan,

this is a dhandahi yog. This has given him financial prosperity.

 

I have already mentioned in my reply to the mail that he will not be a cheif

minister as planet credentials for political mileage are not favourable. Had he

been in the Guru or Sani MD he could hv been a elected representative & a

minister but nit CM.. But his Sani MD is in its last phase & Budh MD does not

give political mileage. Look at Nawab shariff's chart, he is at present under

budh MD and he is not so successful in political field.

 

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Wednesday, 24 December, 2008 6:02:40 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

Dear Mr. Nathani,

 

Why Saturn in langa will be good? So what if it is exaulted? It is his

maranakaraka sthana (MKS). A planet in maranakaraka damages bhava where he sits

and the bhavas of its ownership. But here Karaka of Lagna Sun is strong in own

house, so his health or intelligence will not get affected but definitely damage

the 4th house and 5th house matters. In general, an exaulted MKS planet shows

that the person will come out of these troubles after a termoil. I do not know

his personal histry, but he must have gone through a lot of termoil after the

start of his Saturn dasa in 4th (mother, home etc.) and 5th (love, children

etc.) house matters.

 

Look that exaulted Saturn in langa is also forming a sasa mahapurusha yoga.

Exaulted Jupiter in kendra is also forming hamsa mahaprusha yoga. In such cases

where more that one mahapurusha yoga exists, only one (which is strongest) will

work. Draupadi wanted blessing for a husband like Siva from him. In Shiva all

the tattwas are strong. But in human being that is not possible. So she got 5

husbands, in each - one tattwa was strong.

 

However, in Chiranjeevi' s case none of the yoga will work fully. Because both

Saturn and Jupiter are debilated in navamsa. Actually this should a case of

rajabhanga neecha yoga. The benefits of the exalted planets in rashi will go to

somebody else.

 

Then how he is so renowned and popular and rich? Exaulted Jupiter in 2nd from

arudha lagna (in gemini) and a strong Sun in 11th house are always blessings in

a horoscope. Jupiter is also karaka for 2nd house. He will constantly sustain

the arudha (image in society). Please note another thing. Jupiter is lord of 3rd

and 6th houses. This is a veeparit yoga (VY, 2 or more dusthana lord conjoins).

When VY happens in a dusthana (3rd, 6th, 8th or 12th house), they should be

weak. But when it happens in a kendra, they must be strong to destroy each

other. When such VY is connected to lagna or atmakaraka - it becomes raja yoga

(VRY). As the destruction happens and out of it - the native is benefitted. Else

somebody else will get the benefit. See here Jup is exalted and sitting in the

house of atmakaraka. So it must have happened that his secret enemies (12H) and

competitors (6H) have fallen - out of which he got benefitted. Those who know

his life history can

clarify this. Any way his journey upto this level was not a smooth one.

 

Also see 3rd and 6th house from arudha lagna. These are the houses of parakram

and winning competition. Malefics are good here for material benefit.. He has

Sun and Sun and Mars in 3rd and Rahu in 6th from arudha lagna.

 

Now look at navamsa. For a good acting ability Mercury must be in trine or 7th

from navamsa lagna. He has Mercury in navamsa lagna. To become a good leader Sun

must be in one of those positions. But he has got it in 8th. So no leadership

quality. However that does not mean politicians now a days - all have leadership

quality. So look at D10. Sun must be in artha trikono for a politician. He does

not have that also.

 

So I have doubt about his prospect as a politician.

 

Regards

 

Jk

 

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Tuesday, December 23, 2008 1:02 PM

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Dear Prasanna

 

Cheeranjeevi' s chart is excellent with yog karak sani exhalted in laga, surya

in its own house, jupiter also exhalted, but he is under sani/rahu dasha & rahu

is debilated will make him popular with the massess but will not give the

ultimate success of raj yog of cheif minister as his lagna, lagna lord, & yog

karak sani are all afflicted by ketu. Ketu destroys the benefits of raj yog.

With afflicted lagna & lagna lord, dhana karak & 4th & 5th house log afflicted

it will be very difficult for him to reach the goal.

 

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Tuesday, 23 December, 2008 8:46:54 AM

[vedic astrology] Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of Andhra

Pradesh in 2009

 

Hi,

 

Can you anyone predict the prospects of Mega star Chiranjeevi becoming Chief

Minister of Andhra Pradesh in 2009 elections?

 

He seems to be having the momentum to make a significant impact in Andhra

politics.

 

Chiru Birth Details -

Aug 22 1955

9.42 AM

Narasapur,AP

 

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Dasguptaji,

 

My roots are bengali and from Bangladesh as East Bengal is now known

(both individuals who raised me: Ma and Baba) and truth be told,

Bangalis have a special challenge as I have seen! For they bring

science to the grindstone of spirituality and vice versa!

 

I too agree that badhaksthanas do indeed work, veritably!

 

I do not believe though that just because Detroit may be expected to

experience a high crime rate, the MAYOR of Detroit is a criminal or

out to get all that visit Detroit!

 

I hope you catch my drift!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

vedic astrology , " jk.dasgupta "

<jk.dasgupta wrote:

>

> Dear RRji,

>

> Oh, surely badhakas work. But I have seen badhakas in rashi is more

pron to

> attack physically i.e on health. Planets sitting in badhaka house

is more

> dangerous. I have ketu as badhakesh sitting in my badhakasthana

Scorpio. As

> soon as I entered Sat-Ketu in Nov'2005, I started getting health

problems

> one by one like deep vain thrombosys in leg (Ketu was transiting my

9th

> house then), harpis, high cholesterol, high blood presure, high

fever

> without any apparant reason etc. That is when I was to admitted in

hospital

> for the first time in my life.

>

> I was adviced bypass surgery for deep vain thrombosys and stop

smoking

> totally. I have not done anything. Just went through homeopathy and

after

> ketu sub was over my health is back to normal. The blood blockage

also has

> disapeared :-)

>

> Another problematic planet, who is sitting in 12th house in navamsa.

> Fortunately enough - I have again Ketu there. :D

>

> Real badhaka in life is from arudha lagna. And real protector is

the planet

> sitting in 9th from arudha lagna and from navamsa lagna in D9

chart. If no

> planet then, the lord himself.

>

> Another transit is bad for health. Sade sati in rashi. This is one

teaching

> from our parampara. Actually people are afraid of sade sati. But

sade sati

> in rashi affects health only. How much - depends on how malefic

Saturn is in

> the chart. Sade sati on navamsa moon position is the real trouble

maker in

> life. You can check it in your own chart. Take the navamsa position

of moon

> in rashi and look at the period of sade sati over that position.

>

> BTW, I can guess that you are also from Bengal. Else you would not

have

> missed Kanthaal :-)

>

> Regards

>

> Jk

>

>

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology ]On Behalf Of Rohiniranjan

> Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:30 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM

of Andhra

> Pradesh in 2009

>

>

> Dasgupta ji,

>

> My apologies for my cryptic message and abbreviations (arsa longa

> vita brevis!)!

>

> But it brought forth such wonderful kanthaal phol when you

expressed

> more fully! I miss Kanthaal! Thorny outside (kanta) but delicious

and

> rich in protein inside and golden yellow just like JUPITER!

>

> The CSD triplicity was referring to Chara, Sthira, Dwiswabhava of

> course -- signs with different aspects and different badhakas, of

> course!

>

> Merry Christmas!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> vedic astrology , " jk.dasgupta "

> <jk.dasgupta@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear RRji,

> >

> > I could not understand `three triplicities (C S D)'. Assuming

that

> you are

> > talking about badhaka of arudha.

> >

> > Yes, reading based on arudhas, works wonder. 7th from arudha is

the

> door

> > through which arudha has to rise in this world. If a weak

(specially

> > debilated) planet seats at 7th from arudha lagna, it is very

> difficult to

> > apease that planet and repeated obstruction is placed in rising

of

> arudha.

> > One has to break it and go out.

> >

> > But if a strong (specially exalted) planet seats there, one has

to

> just go

> > in that direction and he will be welcomed with red carpet.

Planets'

> natural

> > karakattwa will show who is standing at the door. Moon-mother or

> mother

> > figures, Sun-father or father figures, Mars-brothers, Mercury-

> relatives or

> > friends, Rahu-foreigners... like that.

> >

> > In case of upapada (arudha of 12th house), they are all in laws.

> See Menaka

> > Gandhi's chart. She has Moon in 7th from upapada. She was never

> accepted by

> > her mother in law.

> >

> > I will be glad to share in detail my further views on any of the

> theories I

> > mentioned in my mail on Chiranjeevi. Actually when I saw the

chart,

> I was

> > confused, how this man can rise like this - with 2 rajabhanga

> neecha yogas.

> > Then it seemed to me that his arudha is working here. Lately I

was

> searching

> > net to know more about his personal life. In fact he has faced

> trouble from

> > his daughter in recent times. 5th lord Saturn in MKS :-O.

> >

> > If Sun was not strong, his health would have affected badly.

> However,

> > exalted MKS planet shows that he will fight all odds and come

out of

> > trouble.

> >

> > It is a fact that all this kalasharpa yoga, kala amrita yoga,

> curses,

> > badhakas, power of planets sitting in 5H... all works. I myself

am

> a victim

> > of all these together. Till the time I could understand fully

all

> these

> > things - already got beaten up severely. :-(

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Jk

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology ]On Behalf Of

Rohiniranjan

> > Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:09 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become

CM

> of Andhra

> > Pradesh in 2009

> >

> >

> > Dasgupta ji,

> >

> > Have you found this to be true in your practice for all three

> > triplicities (C S D)? :-)

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > RR

> >

> > vedic astrology , " jk.dasgupta "

> <jk.dasgupta@>

> > wrote:

> > > <snip>

> >

> > > If any planet seats at the 7H of Arudha, he is the real

badhaka

> in

> > life.

> > >

> > ><snip>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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We are also from East Bengal (Vikrampur), now Bangladesh. I have now settled

in Mumbai since 1988.

 

Yes, yes.. I fully agree in the sense that the Mayor (badhakesh) may not be

a criminal, but if somebody sitting in badhakasthana is a criminal. That

does not mean those visiting the house in transit definitely are not

criminals.

 

Another rider I have seen here. If the badhakesh or the planet sitting in

badhakasthana is a natural benefic like Jup, Ven, Moon, Mercury etc. it is

very easy to apease them. I just advice stone for the same and the person

comes out of the problem without fail.

 

But a malefic is not easy to be apeased.

 

Regards

 

Dasgupta

 

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology ]On Behalf Of Rohiniranjan

Thursday, December 25, 2008 1:22 PM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM of

Andhra Pradesh in 2009

 

 

Dasguptaji,

 

My roots are bengali and from Bangladesh as East Bengal is now known

(both individuals who raised me: Ma and Baba) and truth be told,

Bangalis have a special challenge as I have seen! For they bring

science to the grindstone of spirituality and vice versa!

 

I too agree that badhaksthanas do indeed work, veritably!

 

I do not believe though that just because Detroit may be expected to

experience a high crime rate, the MAYOR of Detroit is a criminal or

out to get all that visit Detroit!

 

I hope you catch my drift!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

vedic astrology , " jk.dasgupta "

<jk.dasgupta wrote:

>

> Dear RRji,

>

> Oh, surely badhakas work. But I have seen badhakas in rashi is more

pron to

> attack physically i.e on health. Planets sitting in badhaka house

is more

> dangerous. I have ketu as badhakesh sitting in my badhakasthana

Scorpio. As

> soon as I entered Sat-Ketu in Nov'2005, I started getting health

problems

> one by one like deep vain thrombosys in leg (Ketu was transiting my

9th

> house then), harpis, high cholesterol, high blood presure, high

fever

> without any apparant reason etc. That is when I was to admitted in

hospital

> for the first time in my life.

>

> I was adviced bypass surgery for deep vain thrombosys and stop

smoking

> totally. I have not done anything. Just went through homeopathy and

after

> ketu sub was over my health is back to normal. The blood blockage

also has

> disapeared :-)

>

> Another problematic planet, who is sitting in 12th house in navamsa.

> Fortunately enough - I have again Ketu there. :D

>

> Real badhaka in life is from arudha lagna. And real protector is

the planet

> sitting in 9th from arudha lagna and from navamsa lagna in D9

chart. If no

> planet then, the lord himself.

>

> Another transit is bad for health. Sade sati in rashi. This is one

teaching

> from our parampara. Actually people are afraid of sade sati. But

sade sati

> in rashi affects health only. How much - depends on how malefic

Saturn is in

> the chart. Sade sati on navamsa moon position is the real trouble

maker in

> life. You can check it in your own chart. Take the navamsa position

of moon

> in rashi and look at the period of sade sati over that position.

>

> BTW, I can guess that you are also from Bengal. Else you would not

have

> missed Kanthaal :-)

>

> Regards

>

> Jk

>

>

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology ]On Behalf Of Rohiniranjan

> Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:30 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become CM

of Andhra

> Pradesh in 2009

>

>

> Dasgupta ji,

>

> My apologies for my cryptic message and abbreviations (arsa longa

> vita brevis!)!

>

> But it brought forth such wonderful kanthaal phol when you

expressed

> more fully! I miss Kanthaal! Thorny outside (kanta) but delicious

and

> rich in protein inside and golden yellow just like JUPITER!

>

> The CSD triplicity was referring to Chara, Sthira, Dwiswabhava of

> course -- signs with different aspects and different badhakas, of

> course!

>

> Merry Christmas!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> vedic astrology , " jk.dasgupta "

> <jk.dasgupta@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear RRji,

> >

> > I could not understand `three triplicities (C S D)'. Assuming

that

> you are

> > talking about badhaka of arudha.

> >

> > Yes, reading based on arudhas, works wonder. 7th from arudha is

the

> door

> > through which arudha has to rise in this world. If a weak

(specially

> > debilated) planet seats at 7th from arudha lagna, it is very

> difficult to

> > apease that planet and repeated obstruction is placed in rising

of

> arudha.

> > One has to break it and go out.

> >

> > But if a strong (specially exalted) planet seats there, one has

to

> just go

> > in that direction and he will be welcomed with red carpet.

Planets'

> natural

> > karakattwa will show who is standing at the door. Moon-mother or

> mother

> > figures, Sun-father or father figures, Mars-brothers, Mercury-

> relatives or

> > friends, Rahu-foreigners... like that.

> >

> > In case of upapada (arudha of 12th house), they are all in laws.

> See Menaka

> > Gandhi's chart. She has Moon in 7th from upapada. She was never

> accepted by

> > her mother in law.

> >

> > I will be glad to share in detail my further views on any of the

> theories I

> > mentioned in my mail on Chiranjeevi. Actually when I saw the

chart,

> I was

> > confused, how this man can rise like this - with 2 rajabhanga

> neecha yogas.

> > Then it seemed to me that his arudha is working here. Lately I

was

> searching

> > net to know more about his personal life. In fact he has faced

> trouble from

> > his daughter in recent times. 5th lord Saturn in MKS :-O.

> >

> > If Sun was not strong, his health would have affected badly.

> However,

> > exalted MKS planet shows that he will fight all odds and come

out of

> > trouble.

> >

> > It is a fact that all this kalasharpa yoga, kala amrita yoga,

> curses,

> > badhakas, power of planets sitting in 5H... all works. I myself

am

> a victim

> > of all these together. Till the time I could understand fully

all

> these

> > things - already got beaten up severely. :-(

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Jk

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology ]On Behalf Of

Rohiniranjan

> > Thursday, December 25, 2008 6:09 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Can Megastar Chiranjeevi become

CM

> of Andhra

> > Pradesh in 2009

> >

> >

> > Dasgupta ji,

> >

> > Have you found this to be true in your practice for all three

> > triplicities (C S D)? :-)

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > RR

> >

> > vedic astrology , " jk.dasgupta "

> <jk.dasgupta@>

> > wrote:

> > > <snip>

> >

> > > If any planet seats at the 7H of Arudha, he is the real

badhaka

> in

> > life.

> > >

> > ><snip>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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