Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear " Srim " , Is the father suffering from any kind of windy diseases or cardiac issues?? Thank you, http://gauravastro.150m.com vedic astrology , " srim_76 " <srim_76 wrote: > > Can you please describe the native's relation with his/her father > having Sun in the 12th house > > 1. 2nd lord Sun in the 12th house > > 2. 9th lord Sun in the 12th house and Saturn in the 9th house. > > Both my children have sun in the 12th house - it is kind of strange > that both siblings have the same placement - what does that mean?. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Dear Querient, If Sun is in 12th house, one of the following may happen depending on the sign placement (exalted, mooltrikona or enemy's sign): 1. If exalted, relations will be normal with the Father but Father may have to physically live away from the kids for most of their lives. E. g. Father may be working in another city and visiting kids just on weekends... 2. If sun is in Mooltrikona in 12th house, there will be spendings related to father, e.g the native may build a house on Father's name or even spend on his medical needs. Still, relations will not be bad with Father. 3. If Sun is in enemy's sign or debiliated with no debiliation cancellation, the relations with Father would be really bad or ...... in worst case, Father of such native might even die when the native is very young P.S: 12th is also the house of Loss and sun is the significator of Father..... Don't worry anyway, as there can always be remedies done to avoid any of the problems stated above.... Regards, Raji --- <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear " Srim " , > Is the father suffering from any kind of windy > diseases or cardiac > issues?? > Thank you, > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > vedic astrology , " srim_76 " > <srim_76 wrote: > > > > Can you please describe the native's relation with > his/her father > > having Sun in the 12th house > > > > 1. 2nd lord Sun in the 12th house > > > > 2. 9th lord Sun in the 12th house and Saturn in > the 9th house. > > > > Both my children have sun in the 12th house - it > is kind of strange > > that both siblings have the same placement - what > does that mean?. > > > > > " I never knew I was Phoenix, till I rose from my ashes..... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Based on your message - we cannot be sure of any results. 1) 2nd Lord Sun in the 12th house - Cancer Ascendant with the 2L Sun in 12H. 2) 9L Sun in 12H with Sat in 9H. Sagittarius Ascendant with Sat in the 9H and Sun in the 12H. In both cases Sun is in Marana Karaka Sthana - basically Sun is uncomfortably placed to perform his duties. In the first case the second house of finances, resources, speech, family and sustenance would be affected/weakened. In the second case the 9th house of fortune/bhagya is placed in the 12H in Scorpio (watery sign)- So there is a strong chance the person may travel to some faroff place/foreign countries - but his fortune may not really grow that well. Again these are very broad speculations at best - I have no clue of afflictions,aspects(benefic,malefic) to these houses/lords, no clue where the Lagna lord or the 9th lord is placed. It is advisable that we include the birth data and have a view of the entire chart and discuss this combination specifically to arrive at meaningful analysis. Regards Shrikanth vedic astrology , " srim_76 " <srim_76 wrote: > > Can you please describe the native's relation with his/her father > having Sun in the 12th house > > 1. 2nd lord Sun in the 12th house > > 2. 9th lord Sun in the 12th house and Saturn in the 9th house. > > Both my children have sun in the 12th house - it is kind of strange > that both siblings have the same placement - what does that mean?. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Dear Srim, In 12 house any planet indicate the related karka will be benefited by native.Sun in 12th means father will be benefited by native,Moon means Mother will be benefited by native as like this so don't worry about it. Thanks, M.S.Bohra vedic astrology , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear " Srim " , > Is the father suffering from any kind of windy diseases or cardiac > issues?? > Thank you, > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > vedic astrology , " srim_76 " <srim_76@> wrote: > > > > Can you please describe the native's relation with his/her father > > having Sun in the 12th house > > > > 1. 2nd lord Sun in the 12th house > > > > 2. 9th lord Sun in the 12th house and Saturn in the 9th house. > > > > Both my children have sun in the 12th house - it is kind of strange > > that both siblings have the same placement - what does that mean?. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Fascinating perspective indeed! In the sense of when someone gains someone else incurrs a loss... There are three kinds of karakas, though as you know. C-N-S (not to be confused with central nervous system!) Which one manifests and how? Or do they all?? RR vedic astrology , " msbohra62 " <msbohra62 wrote: > > Dear Srim, > > In 12 house any planet indicate the related karka will be benefited by > native.Sun in 12th means father will be benefited by native,Moon means > Mother will be benefited by native as like this so don't worry about it. > > Thanks, > > M.S.Bohra > > > > vedic astrology , " " > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear " Srim " , > > Is the father suffering from any kind of windy diseases or cardiac > > issues?? > > Thank you, > > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > vedic astrology , " srim_76 " <srim_76@> wrote: > > > > > > Can you please describe the native's relation with his/her father > > > having Sun in the 12th house > > > > > > 1. 2nd lord Sun in the 12th house > > > > > > 2. 9th lord Sun in the 12th house and Saturn in the 9th house. > > > > > > Both my children have sun in the 12th house - it is kind of strange > > > that both siblings have the same placement - what does that mean?. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Namaste, Shri.Bohraji, > .....Sun in 12th means father will be benefited by native..... Regarding 12th house SUN,hither to I was going by corollary found in " Thiyagarajasekaram " a Tamil scripture,which reads as 'The native having 12th house Sun,would be hen-pecked,pot belled,may have intercourse with widows,poor,indulge in thefts,may have eye disease,spendthrift,pitru dosha'.This is proving good to me. But however your above referred contention is in opposition to the above corollary.I presume that there may be some scripture references to your views ..Kindly elucidate. With regards, D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. msbohra62 <msbohra62 wrote: Dear Srim, In 12 house any planet indicate the related karka will be benefited by native.Sun in 12th means father will be benefited by native,Moon means Mother will be benefited by native as like this so don't worry about it. Thanks, M.S.Bohra vedic astrology , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear " Srim " , > Is the father suffering from any kind of windy diseases or cardiac > issues?? > Thank you, > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > vedic astrology , " srim_76 " <srim_76@> wrote: > > > > Can you please describe the native's relation with his/her father > > having Sun in the 12th house > > > > 1. 2nd lord Sun in the 12th house > > > > 2. 9th lord Sun in the 12th house and Saturn in the 9th house. > > > > Both my children have sun in the 12th house - it is kind of strange > > that both siblings have the same placement - what does that mean?. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Respected Rohiniranjan ji, Really it is fascinating if we take it in this perspective.Planets are having all Karkas we can't divide in a particular Karka ,classification taken(IN which respect) depend on the view of Astrologer or on the subject of query by native. It is my personal observation which i have seen in relation sheep Karka of planet for native.Sun in 12th father will be in benefit by native,Moon mother will be in benefit by native,Mercury Sister,Mother's sister and brother are being benefited by native as like this.Benefits not only the money wise,by all means he/her will be in benefited(Directly or indirectly) by native. 12th house as we know for expenditure (on whom) or loses for native,one looses one will be getting.Who will be getting it is astrological analysis. Astrology is divine science it explore each and every thing about this universe and living being.We can search all(Materialistic or spiritual) and make the relations with them in this science. Thanks, M.S.Bohra vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Fascinating perspective indeed! In the sense of when someone gains > someone else incurrs a loss... > > There are three kinds of karakas, though as you know. > > C-N-S (not to be confused with central nervous system!) > > Which one manifests and how? Or do they all?? > > RR > > vedic astrology , " msbohra62 " <msbohra62@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Srim, > > > > In 12 house any planet indicate the related karka will be benefited > by > > native.Sun in 12th means father will be benefited by native,Moon > means > > Mother will be benefited by native as like this so don't worry > about it. > > > > Thanks, > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " " > > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear " Srim " , > > > Is the father suffering from any kind of windy diseases or cardiac > > > issues?? > > > Thank you, > > > > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " srim_76 " <srim_76@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Can you please describe the native's relation with his/her > father > > > > having Sun in the 12th house > > > > > > > > 1. 2nd lord Sun in the 12th house > > > > > > > > 2. 9th lord Sun in the 12th house and Saturn in the 9th house. > > > > > > > > Both my children have sun in the 12th house - it is kind of > strange > > > > that both siblings have the same placement - what does that > mean?. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Namaskar Shri Guptaji, Ever thing have astrological reason but we can't say that Sun in 12th the all native have relation with widows,can we say it?It is general result which we have to conform by other factors for final conclusion. 12th house is denote expenses and loses of native as like 11th house is gain for native.Just apply this,Karktatva of planets in 12th house and see the result, personally, surrounding your relatives chart. In Geeta,every chapter says if we read or chant this lesson once we will get the result of that lesson,people read whole life but could not get the same as it is.We have to understand the real meaning or essence of the text and adopt it with full faith than we reach near by. Predication is not 2+2+4 as like mathematics,it is divine.How much you go in depth you will find new meaning.as like that we read Geeta every time the 'same words' but getting new meaning every time. Just do analysis by my view of point than come on conclusion. Thanks, M.S.Bohra vedic astrology , Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 wrote: > > Namaste, > Shri.Bohraji, > > > .....Sun in 12th means father will be benefited by native..... > > Regarding 12th house SUN,hither to I was going by corollary found in " Thiyagarajasekaram " a Tamil scripture,which reads as > 'The native having 12th house Sun,would be hen-pecked,pot belled,may have intercourse with widows,poor,indulge in thefts,may have eye disease,spendthrift,pitru dosha'.This is proving good to me. > But however your above referred contention is in opposition to the above corollary.I presume that there may be some scripture references to your views .Kindly elucidate. > With regards, > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta. > > msbohra62 <msbohra62 wrote: Dear Srim, > > In 12 house any planet indicate the related karka will be benefited by > native.Sun in 12th means father will be benefited by native,Moon means > Mother will be benefited by native as like this so don't worry about it. > > Thanks, > > M.S.Bohra > > vedic astrology , " " > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear " Srim " , > > Is the father suffering from any kind of windy diseases or cardiac > > issues?? > > Thank you, > > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > vedic astrology , " srim_76 " <srim_76@> wrote: > > > > > > Can you please describe the native's relation with his/her father > > > having Sun in the 12th house > > > > > > 1. 2nd lord Sun in the 12th house > > > > > > 2. 9th lord Sun in the 12th house and Saturn in the 9th house. > > > > > > Both my children have sun in the 12th house - it is kind of strange > > > that both siblings have the same placement - what does that mean?. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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